Joe Root has potential to surpass Sachin Tendulkar's Test record, says Geoffrey Boycott

[bujhee kom]

If SRT loses his longevity based records (most runs, most tons), he has little else to highlight. He has no impact records (highest score, series aggregate, fastest scores etc).

 

[Mamoon]

If SRT loses his longevity based records (most runs, most tons), he has little else to highlight. He has no impact records (highest score, series aggregate, fastest scores etc).

Tendulkar’s legacy is not just his aggregate records but also the impact he had on Indian cricket culture. Non-Indians will never understand what he means to India.

He can lose all his records but that will never diminish his influence on Indian cricket.

 

[introvert]

Root no longer plays t20 internationals and I don't see him ever coming back to t20 squad or even getting future gig in t20 leagues around the world as he has become almost irrelevant in t20 scene.

So that will allow him to focus bit more on his test and odi career. I hope he goes on to break Tendulkar's test records & gives his preference to it instead of wasting his time on the hundred or t20 blast.

it will take him solid 5 to 6 years in test cricket so it may not be easy as just like Alister cook he may give up early as well.

 

[Ab Fan]

If SRT loses his longevity based records (most runs, most tons), he has little else to highlight. He has no impact records (highest score, series aggregate, fastest scores etc).

A player can lose those so called impact records too.

Highest score- Anwar had it, it was broken by SRT only. Anwar has nothing to show up now

Series Aggregate -Daryl Mitchell just broke someone else's record in the England vs New Zealand series.

Fastest score - Afridi 's 37 ball 100 was broken by Corey Anderson and it was broken then by AB de Villiers. Someone will broke that some day too.

Every record will be broken some day. This doesn't mean they don't have anything to show up or their legacy is over. Actually Tendulkar's record is harder to break than those records as it is based on performance over a full fledged career while the ones you mentioned can be broken in one match itself.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Same thing being repeated over and again in the same thread, it is hillarious to hear it now. Are you really sure about it? Are James Anderson and Stuart Broad not England players? What is that one better thing which England players do in their life that stops then from playing test cricket after a decade which unfortunately the two leading England wicket takers, Anderson and Broad, don't know? And actually it is the Pakistanis that know this

Anderson has been playing cricket from almost two decades now, still eyeing for that 700 test wicket record. Is he also a FARIGH still playing cricket for 20 years and chasing Warne's record? Broad is still chasing McGrath record? Damn! Just get over your hatred, FGS!

Hein?
Broad and Anderson?

You may need to improve on some basic reading comprehension skills.

The bold part in quoting me, read again, it talks about BATSMEN.

 

[Pakhs]

A player can lose those so called impact records too.

Highest score- Anwar had it, it was broken by SRT only. Anwar has nothing to show up now

Series Aggregate -Daryl Mitchell just broke someone else's record in the England vs New Zealand series.

Fastest score - Afridi 's 37 ball 100 was broken by Corey Anderson and it was broken then by AB de Villiers. Someone will broke that some day too.

Every record will be broken some day. This doesn't mean they don't have anything to show up or their legacy is over. Actually Tendulkar's record is harder to break than those records as it is based on performance over a full fledged career while the ones you mentioned can be broken in one match itself.

Records are there to be broken, Sachin is ATG and that will stay.

 

[Ab Fan]

Hein?
Broad and Anderson?

You may need to improve on some basic reading comprehension skills.

The bold part in quoting me, read again, it talks about BATSMEN.

So, your point is that England bowlers don't have anything better to do in their life apart from playing cricket so they keep playing for two decades and chasing records.

But batsman have got better things to do so they retire after 10-12 years career and don't like chasing records? All you basically mean to say is that bowlers can afford to be selfish and chase records but batsman can't. Does that even make sense?

These are hillarious opinions and devoid of any logic. You can play as long as you want, it doesn't matter whether you are a batsman or bowler. Longevity aspect applies for both.

 

[Technics 1210]

Tendulkar’s legacy is not just his aggregate records but also the impact he had on Indian cricket culture. Non-Indians will never understand what he means to India.

He can lose all his records but that will never diminish his influence on Indian cricket.

Please stop this nonsense, you never watched Tendulkar play in his prime (90s), you got hold of the tail end of his career, and 'non-indians' will never understand, but you do? Hmmm.

Kapil Dev had the greatest impact on Indian Cricket and culture, so much so Wisden awarded Kapil Dev with the Wisden Indian Cricketer of the Century in 2002. Let this sink in, in 2002, well past Tendulkar's prime.

Not to mention, not a single one of Tendulkar's Test Centuries is listed in the top 100 Wisden centuries of all time. https://in.rediff.com/cricket/2001/jul/30bat100.htm

We get it, Tendulkar bestowed recognition on India after Gandhi, Bharat Ratna award and all that, all because the white man was praising the batting of an Indian, a former British colony - but that's as far as it goes.

Forget Non-Indians, you had to be alive and aware in the 90s to understand.

 

[bujhee kom]

No one is contesting SRT's ATG status. However he doesn't have the individual performances in test cricket to keep his flame glowing like Lara does if he loses the test runs record. People throwing ODIs about are missing the point, as are those who harp on about what he means to India. That is not the question. His record has only 1 Everest - most runs. With that gone, the billboard will be bare.
He remains great ofcourse but what else will his cheerleaders champion?

 

[bujhee kom]

Tendulkar’s legacy is not just his aggregate records but also the impact he had on Indian cricket culture. Non-Indians will never understand what he means to India.

He can lose all his records but that will never diminish his influence on Indian cricket.

Is this tacit acknowledgement that you are Indian?

 

[TheSultan]

Please stop this nonsense, you never watched Tendulkar play in his prime (90s), you got hold of the tail end of his career, and 'non-indians' will never understand, but you do? Hmmm.

Kapil Dev had the greatest impact on Indian Cricket and culture, so much so Wisden awarded Kapil Dev with the Wisden Indian Cricketer of the Century in 2002. Let this sink in, in 2002, well past Tendulkar's prime.

Not to mention, not a single one of Tendulkar's Test Centuries is listed in the top 100 Wisden centuries of all time. https://in.rediff.com/cricket/2001/jul/30bat100.htm

We get it, Tendulkar bestowed recognition on India after Gandhi, Bharat Ratna award and all that, all because the white man was praising the batting of an Indian, a former British colony - but that's as far as it goes.

Forget Non-Indians, you had to be alive and aware in the 90s to understand.

Yes and to add, Gavaskar even named Kapil as the greatest Indian cricketer ahead of Tendulkar, Dravid, Kohli etc

Personally for me, Kapil, Gavaskar, Dhoni and Kohli have done far more for Indian cricket than Tendulkar.

 

[Technics 1210]

Yes and to add, Gavaskar even named Kapil as the greatest Indian cricketer ahead of Tendulkar, Dravid, Kohli etc

Personally for me, Kapil, Gavaskar, Dhoni and Kohli have done far more for Indian cricket than Tendulkar.

Tendulkar himself has stated he was inspired by Dev's 1983 WC win, and had India not won, then he may have pursued a career in Tennis.

Dev was the chingari that reignited the passion for cricket in India, otherwise, India was losing interest in Cricket because it was a 'British' sport.

My personal Indian favorites : Gavaskar (first to break 10000 test run barrier, and Bradman's 29 Test century record - though he didn't get a Ferrari), then Kapil, Dravid, and Kohli. Honorable mention; Ganguly, for changing the mindset of the Indian team.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

So, your point is that England bowlers don't have anything better to do in their life apart from playing cricket so they keep playing for two decades and chasing records.

But batsman have got better things to do so they retire after 10-12 years career and don't like chasing records? All you basically mean to say is that bowlers can afford to be selfish and chase records but batsman can't. Does that even make sense?

These are hillarious opinions and devoid of any logic. You can play as long as you want, it doesn't matter whether you are a batsman or bowler. Longevity aspect applies for both.

Bowlers included. Most of the time, yes.
Anderson and Broad are outliers - otherwise, you have just seen the example of Morgan, and in the past, Cookie, Hussain, Flintoff, Strauss, Collingwood, Vaughan, Thorpe etc, and then there is a whole list of English bowlers who played for about a decade or less and moved on.

Heck, here even the likes of Hafeez played for more than 20 years.

 

[TheSultan]

Tendulkar himself has stated he was inspired by Dev's 1983 WC win, and had India not won, then he may have pursued a career in Tennis.

Dev was the chingari that reignited the passion for cricket in India, otherwise, India was losing interest in Cricket because it was a 'British' sport.

My personal Indian favorites : Gavaskar (first to break 10000 test run barrier, and Bradman's 29 Test century record - though he didn't get a Ferrari), then Kapil, Dravid, and Kohli. Honorable mention; Ganguly, for changing the mindset of the Indian team.

Agreed on Ganguly. People underestimate how much he actually done for the Indian team. Before that they were just happy to cheer Tendulkar making some inconsequential runs. Ganguly instilled the desire to win and achieve something.

 

[Mainul]

People who are dismissive of Tendulkar’s longevity and think it is just a matter of playing more completely miss the point.

The point is that there is a reason why Tendulkar played more. He played his last Test at 38-39 which is not unusual, but what sets him apart is that he played 56 Test matches before his 20th birthday.

It is completely unusual for a teenage to be good enough to represent his country in Test cricket over 50 times during his teens.

No batsman stands a chance of breaking his record unless he is an ATG and also Test class in his teens.

Both Cook and Root made their Test debuts at 22. Tendulkar made his debut at 16. That is where the difference lies.

England didn’t hold them back, they weren’t ready. It is not their fault, it is just that Tendulkar was a freak. He was smashing Sir Richard Hadlee on a green top at 16 and averaging 40+ in Australia at 17-18.

Very good point. Moreover, one has to remember also the quality of pitches back at that time when Sachin started his career. Most pitches had something for the bowlers too. And Sachin had to face a whole brigade of quality fast bowling at their peak in his teens and twenties! Though he didn't face Waqsr, Wasim much in tests , he faced Walsh, Bishop, Ambrose , McDermott, McGrath, Fleming, Hadlee +not at his peak though but Hadlee had more venom at his old age than his peers) ,Donald, Pollock etc.

 

[James]

One underlining theme here seems to be that Root fans aren’t really bothered if he beats the record or not, whereas Tendulkar fans will seek to protect same said record at all costs.

 

[ElRaja]

Very good point. Moreover, one has to remember also the quality of pitches back at that time when Sachin started his career. Most pitches had something for the bowlers too. And Sachin had to face a whole brigade of quality fast bowling at their peak in his teens and twenties! Though he didn't face Waqsr, Wasim much in tests , he faced Walsh, Bishop, Ambrose , McDermott, McGrath, Fleming, Hadlee +not at his peak though but Hadlee had more venom at his old age than his peers) ,Donald, Pollock etc.

all top batsmen deserve there records and achievements without qualification, this kinda comparison is not fair cos u can say batting averages are lower now, draws are less common, etc, or that tendu played 16 tests against a terrible zim and bang team, root has only ever played 2 tests against bang in 120 tests.

whoever breaks tendus record, if ever, will deserve in unequivocally.

 

[Romali_rotti]

One underlining theme here seems to be that Root fans aren’t really bothered if he beats the record or not, whereas Tendulkar fans will seek to protect same said record at all costs.

Well, Geoffrey Boycott seems to be keen to see Root break SRT's record.

Schwarzenegger was annoyed when Lee Haney beat him for the most Olympia crowns at the time.

It is what it is, there will be folks that dont mind if a record is broken and ones that will get very butt hurt, such as the Saeed Anwar 194 Jinkx thread on PP, which had one of the most number of pages..

 

[Joseph Gomes]

One underlining theme here seems to be that Root fans aren’t really bothered if he beats the record or not, whereas Tendulkar fans will seek to protect same said record at all costs.

Root fans don't care if he Root retired tomorrow, he has fans not fanatics. India is a massive outlier where people treat celebrities like gods

 

[Mobashir]

Wow Indian still so touchy about Tendulkar.
Relax guys, you are still around 6 000 tests runs ahead.

 

[daytrader]

"He Can Do It If...": Wasim Jaffer On Joe Root's Chances Of Breaking Massive Sachin Tendulkar Record
Wasim Jaffer feels that if Root continues to play Test cricket at this level for the next five-six years, he might break Sachin Tendulkar's record as the all-time highest run-getter in Test cricket.

Trailing the five-match series 1-2, England defeated India in the rescheduled fifth Test at Edgbaston in Birmingham. Joe Root and Jonny Bairstow hit centuries as England chased a down a record total of 378 to level the series 2-2. While Bairstow has been in top form of late, hitting tons in both innings, Root continued from where he left last year before the final Test was postponed. With four centuries and one fifty to his name, the former England skipper ended the series as the top-scorer with 737 runs. Former India batter Wasim Jaffer feels that if Root continues to play Test cricket at this level for the next five-six years, he might break Sachin Tendulkar's record as the all-time highest run-getter in Test cricket.

"He can do it if he plays that long. He is only 31 years old. We all know that the career of English and Australian players isn't long. But, if he plays another 5-6 years, I feel that he is capable of breaking the record," Jaffer said during an interaction on ESPNcricinfo.

The 31-year-old is currently 12th in all-time scoring charts in Tests with 10,458 runs in 121 Tests.

Root had recently joined the 10,000-run club during the three-match series against New Zealand. He hit two centuries in that contest and followed it up with his second-innings ton at Edgbaston.

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Tendulkar, on the other hand, scored 15,921 Test runs during his 24-year long illustrious career.

England and India will now face each other for the three-match T20I series with the first game on Thursday at the Ageas Bowl in Southampton.

NDTV

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Joe Root average slipped to below 50.

 

[atreus]

is he the faster to 11,000?