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Joe Root's 218 helps England reach 555/8 at Stumps on Day 2 in the 1st Test against India

Eng may have missed the trick by not declaring earlier, pitch is doing bit more now. May be flat again when they come out to bowl tommorow
 
England doesn't have the mentality of a champion team.
They need someone like Shastri to fill em with jazba and daleri.
Even after scoring 500 they are scared to declare.
 
I am confused with England's Game plan. They should have declared a while back and get 10 overs at the openers.
 
When both Jadeja & Ashwin play, India usually don't play a third spinner (unless its a rank turner!) On such flat/slow pitches they usually play a third seamer! This has been the success formula for Indians in home tests! This is how the seamers used to come into play with fresh spells (Umesh, Shami, Ishant - and not even Bumrah as this is his first test in India) & that knack of picking wickets with old ball... Jadeja & Ashwin give that strong balance both to batting lineup & bowling lineup! (Their effectiveness is more than that of 3 regular spinners! And they together make up for that 7th batsman slot!)

Absence of Umesh, Shami & of course Jadeja is hurting India! But I know they should not make excuses and win matches regardless (like how they did in last series, that too overseas, without Kohli & so many injuries...!)
 
Aman said:
England with this Root would hammer Aus.

Aus would beat us home and away, but they would get pumped by India and England home and away.
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Slog said:
Also asides from the fact that Head and Wade averaged high 20s and low 30s; the England side of 2017-18 ashes was very different. That was 3+ years ago.
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Your predictions about ind vs aus were wrong and i am damn sure that aus will beat this england side in england.
Your reactions are based on a one off series rather rather than prolonged periods, look out for ashes 2021, you will be proved wrong yet again.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Agreed 2-3 overs at indian openers would be akward session.
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Yep....all the Indian players are tired after day long fielding in Chennai heat. Its the best time to bowl at them. Imagine they somehow get Rohit out tonight. Situation will be different tomorroe morning as players will be well rested.
 
England could have declared had they not lost a couple of wickets. They would have been 570/6 with Archer or Buttler smashing a few more and could have declared with 30 mins left. But now it looks tough.
 
Another dangerous leave to a ball coming in from outside off.
 
England should look to give themselves a few overs at the Indian batsmen before stumps.

Unless they're playing a long game and just want to wear India out going forward in the series.
 
Washington Sundar learning on the go the challenges of Test Cricket.
Everything went his way on debut. Bowled much better today, but no rewards.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Your predictions about ind vs aus were wrong and i am damn sure that aus will beat this england side in england.
Your reactions are based on a one off series rather rather than prolonged periods, look out for ashes 2021, you will be proved wrong yet again.
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I don’t think they would. Australian bowling has gone backwards. England have Anderson back, an improving top three and Root in beastmode.
 
Even with this performance Iam feeling proud as an Indian🇮🇳. England is so scared of us that even with 545 on board they are scared to declare and go for win
 
Robert said:
I don’t think they would. Australian bowling has gone backwards. England have Anderson back, an improving top three and Root in beastmode.
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It will exciting to watch. Root will have to play really well here in Australia.
I will be there for Boxing day first day. Never missed one in past 5 years.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Your predictions about ind vs aus were wrong and i am damn sure that aus will beat this england side in england.
Your reactions are based on a one off series rather rather than prolonged periods, look out for ashes 2021, you will be proved wrong yet again.
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Robert said:
I don’t think they would. Australian bowling has gone backwards. England have Anderson back, an improving top three and Root in beastmode.
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Oh sorry, that was a a typo.
I meant australia will beat england in Australia.
Agree with you, Smith is not as good as he was in 2019, and england has improved.
England will obviously win in home conditions
 
Root making sure he is true to his statement about England scoring 600!
 
Some clueless comments about the lack of a declaration again. Root knows that his spinners aren't good enough to get 20 wickets on this pitch even if India are under immense scoreboard pressure.

People have short memories with respect to what happened at Chennai in 2016, or even Adelaide 2006. It's the first test of a series, no need to be gung-ho under some delusional beliefs about aggression and positive thinking.
 
I think if offered 555-8, Root would have bitten your hand off!
 
Robert said:
I don’t think they would. Australian bowling has gone backwards. England have Anderson back, an improving top three and Root in beastmode.
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How? Both Cummins and Hazlewood bowled beautifully and its Starc who tapered down. They have Paterson and other fast bowlers as backups.
 
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Robert said:
I don’t think they would. Australian bowling has gone backwards. England have Anderson back, an improving top three and Root in beastmode.
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Australian bowling is something that cannot be faulted for recent failures. In fact They have gone a notch better. Starc who is called the weak link now will decimate the English batsmen later in year
 
Looks like England strategy these days is to bat big in first innings. they want to put opposition under pressure in last days of test. let’s see how it goes
 
5 or more wickets is what England should aim for tomorrow. Possible if pitch plays some tricks
 
Last Monetarist said:
Some clueless comments about the lack of a declaration again. Root knows that his spinners aren't good enough to get 20 wickets on this pitch even if India are under immense scoreboard pressure.

People have short memories with respect to what happened at Chennai in 2016, or even Adelaide 2006. It's the first test of a series, no need to be gung-ho under some delusional beliefs about aggression and positive thinking.
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But the problem is that there is no guarantee that you will win the toss again and get another opportunity like this to put India under pressure and have enough time to take 20 wickets.
 
Dingolfy said:
But the problem is that there is no guarantee that you will win the toss again and get another opportunity like this to put India under pressure and have enough time to take 20 wickets.
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It doesn't matter. They can't worry about the outcome of future matches whilst in the middle of a test.

England have been bitten in the past, that Adelaide trauma still lives on in the memory of almost every devoted cricket fan in the UK. They have lost test matches at Chennai twice after thinking they had enough runs on the board.

If they were chasing a win, then I'd be inclined to agree. However, there's no reason to give India a sniff of victory here.
 
Last Monetarist said:
It doesn't matter. They can't worry about the outcome of future matches whilst in the middle of a test.

England have been bitten in the past, that Adelaide trauma still lives on in the memory of almost every devoted cricket fan in the UK. They have lost test matches at Chennai twice after thinking they had enough runs on the board.

If they were chasing a win, then I'd be inclined to agree. However, there's no reason to give India a sniff of victory here.
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And if at all this approach is the best to push for a victory in India. Score all your runs in the first innings. Scoring 50 runs in the fourth is like scoring 100 runs in the first
 
575 would be a brilliant team score. Then the business of potentially taking some wickets begins. It is a flat pitch, but with significant scoreboard pressure and men around the bat to the spinners — as well as Anderson looking for reverse swing — anything can happen.
 
England shouldn't lose this test. Good that they're batting on to eliminate the chances of India winning.
 
globalcitizen said:
Australian bowling is something that cannot be faulted for recent failures. In fact They have gone a notch better. Starc who is called the weak link now will decimate the English batsmen later in year
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Just one wicket per innings? Great, England can cope with that.
 
Last Monetarist said:
It doesn't matter. They can't worry about the outcome of future matches whilst in the middle of a test.

England have been bitten in the past, that Adelaide trauma still lives on in the memory of almost every devoted cricket fan in the UK. They have lost test matches at Chennai twice after thinking they had enough runs on the board.

If they were chasing a win, then I'd be inclined to agree. However, there's no reason to give India a sniff of victory here.
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England came here to win the series. And they have India on the mat here. And if they still think they can’t win it from here, that would send a bad message to their bowlers and a confidence booster to Indian batsmen.
 
Dingolfy said:
England came here to win the series. And they have India on the mat here. And if they still think they can’t win it from here, that would send a bad message to their bowlers and a confidence booster to Indian batsmen.
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No, it doesn't send any bad message to their bowlers. A good captain realizes when to make decisions that the opposition least wants to see. If anything, the England tail piling on the runs will give more confidence to the bowlers and demoralize the Indians.

It's imperative that England don't repeat the mistakes they made the last two times they played at Chennai.

The only ones calling for a declaration here are either impatient fans with no understanding of test cricket, or Indians that want their side to get some respite.
 
Only the second time in last 60 Tests, India have conceded 500+ in an innings.
 
England should not declare it's as simple as that. Remember its a long series and England have a excellent opportunity to derail this Indian attack by keeping them out for as long as possible therefore reducing their effectiveness in the upcoming tests where then the fruition of this batting performance could show the effects by winning the games.
 
Manunited18 said:
England should not declare it's as simple as that. Remember its a long series and England have a excellent opportunity to derail this Indian attack by keeping them out for as long as possible therefore reducing their effectiveness in the upcoming tests where then the fruition of this batting performance could show the effects by winning the games.
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India is playing at home and have plenty of replacements available for their bowlers. Plus their main bowlers( Shami, Umesh and possibly Jaddu)are still rested and can come back from the third test onwards. And Indian spinners are accustomed to bowling long spells in these conditions in FC.
England is simply wasting a golden opportunity by not declaring and playing for a draw.
 
Last Monetarist said:
No, it doesn't send any bad message to their bowlers. A good captain realizes when to make decisions that the opposition least wants to see. If anything, the England tail piling on the runs will give more confidence to the bowlers and demoralize the Indians.

It's imperative that England don't repeat the mistakes they made the last two times they played at Chennai.

The only ones calling for a declaration here are either impatient fans with no understanding of test cricket, or Indians that want their side to get some respite.
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They’re piling on runs too slow on this wicket at 3 RPO and still haven’t declared after second day. If anything, that is telling the opposition that we fear your batsmen’s scoring ability and our bowlers are not good enough to take 20 wickets.
If Engand wants to win this series, they have to take risks and trust their bowlers to take 20 wickets and give ample time for that.
 
2 days of batting on a super flat pitch and still at 550 runs.

Scoring has been slower than it should have been. It will be hard to take 20 wickets for any team here, but Eng is the only team that can take 20 wickets and win here.

It is very negative to think about losing a test when you have put 500 runs. If it happens then it happens, but if you start thinking like this then you can't win much despite playing well and getting lucky with the toss.
 
Manunited18 said:
England should not declare it's as simple as that. Remember its a long series and England have a excellent opportunity to derail this Indian attack by keeping them out for as long as possible therefore reducing their effectiveness in the upcoming tests where then the fruition of this batting performance could show the effects by winning the games.
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Excellent point.

Though presumably Shami and Jadeja are back soon....
 
Robert said:
Excellent point.

Though presumably Shami and Jadeja are back soon....
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Don't think they will play in this test series. Both have fractures and chances of comeback for any of the test is lower. Jadeja is officially ruled out anyways.

Umesh and Siraj are the other two options India have apart from Bumrah and Ishant and there is no clear update on Umesh's injury either. I expect three of them to play for pink ball, so probably Bumrah will be rested for 2nd test and Siraj will get a go.
 
Ab Fan said:
Don't think they will play in this test series. Both have fractures and chances of comeback for any of the test is lower. Jadeja is officially ruled out anyways.

Umesh and Siraj are the other two options India have apart from Bumrah and Ishant and there is no clear update on Umesh's injury either. I expect three of them to play for pink ball, so probably Bumrah will be rested for 2nd test and Siraj will get a go.
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* Pink ball is third test
 
Dingolfy said:
They’re piling on runs too slow on this wicket at 3 RPO and still haven’t declared after second day. If anything, that is telling the opposition that we fear your batsmen’s scoring ability and our bowlers are not good enough to take 20 wickets.
If Engand wants to win this series, they have to take risks and trust their bowlers to take 20 wickets and give ample time for that.
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It's still worth reiterating that England lost on the last two occasions they played at Chennai by doing exactly what you are advocating. Throwing away wickets for quick runs, which allowed India a chance of winning. England's spinners are too inexperienced to impart any pressure on the Indian batsmen. This is absolutely the correct tactic from Root.

The only way England can win in the subcontinent is by playing attritional cricket. They can't go toe to toe with India in the subcontinent at playing aggressively, the home team will always win.
 
Buffet said:
2 days of batting on a super flat pitch and still at 550 runs.

Scoring has been slower than it should have been. It will be hard to take 20 wickets for any team here, but Eng is the only team that can take 20 wickets and win here.

It is very negative to think about losing a test when you have put 500 runs. If it happens then it happens, but if you start thinking like this then you can't win much despite playing well and getting lucky with the toss.
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It's the first test of a series, it's ok for fans with no skin in the game to make such dispassionate statements based on theory. 550 is about par for a flat wicket in Chennai. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli can knock it off in a few sessions against Bess and Leech. England need to ground the Indian attack into the dust, it's a long series and this tactic should be viewed through that lens.
 
Last Monetarist said:
It's the first test of a series, it's ok for fans with no skin in the game to make such dispassionate statements based on theory. 550 is about par for a flat wicket in Chennai. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli can knock it off in a few sessions against Bess and Leech. England need to ground the Indian attack into the dust, it's a long series and this tactic should be viewed through that lens.
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Nothing to do with the theory here. It's simple past history and not many teams win a test if they keep batting on 3rd day. I will surely try to win a test if my team is in dominating position.

550 is not getting knocked in one day.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Your predictions about ind vs aus were wrong and i am damn sure that aus will beat this england side in england.
Your reactions are based on a one off series rather rather than prolonged periods, look out for ashes 2021, you will be proved wrong yet again.
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No indian precited a 2-1 fluke win after 36 all out.

Whats your prediction of Ind/End series?
 
I don't think more than 2-3 times a team has lost after putting 550 in the first inning.
 
Record double ton from Root strengthens England's grip on first Test

A magnificent double century from Joe Root headlined the action on day two, as England went to stumps on a solid 555/8.

England continued their domination with the bat on day two of the first Test in Chennai, courtesy of 218 from skipper Root and useful contribution from the middle-order.

Root became the first player in Test cricket history to hit a double ton in his 100th Test match. His sensational 377-ball knock was studded with 19 fours and two sixes.

India bounced back in the evening session, claiming four wickets but with over 500 runs on the board, England ended the day on a high.

Earlier, in the morning session, Root continued his rich form, batting beautifully. He was joined at the crease by the No.4 batsman, Ben Stokes, who batted with confidence from the start and hit sublime boundaries from time-to-time.

With England looking strong with over 300 runs on the board, India were desperately looking for wickets. The hosts lost two reviews over the course of two overs. First, in the 108th over, when Stokes attempted to play a reverse sweep off R Ashwin, the spinner was convinced that the ball had hit the pad. India went for a review and eventually lost it after replays showed that the ball had hit the glove.

The following over saw another LBW review, this time off Shahbaz Nadeem's bowling. An angled delivery from the spinner had hit Root's pad, and looked close. But the ball was bouncing over the stumps resulting in India losing their second review.

En route, Root crossed the 150-mark, for the third time in three consecutive Tests, while Stokes reached his fifty with back-to-back reverse sweeps for four. The duo's unbroken 92-run stand took England to 355/3 at lunch.

The pair continued to milk runs in the afternoon session. Their partnership of 124 came to an end when Nadeem claimed the prized scalp of Stokes, who slogged it towards the deep backward square leg fielder, Cheteshwar Pujara, who fumbled but eventually managed to clutch the ball. Stokes fell after making an entertaining 118-ball 82, which featured 10 fours and three sixes.

The hosts later lost their last review. Ollie Pope (34) had gone for a sweep shot but missed it, but he got a lifeline as the ball was going over the stumps.

Root eventually went on to bring up his fifth Test double hundred in style with a six, his second in his last three Tests. He stitched another notable partnership with Pope, of 86 runs, before the latter became Ashwin's second victim.

One brought two for India, as Nadeem struck in the next over, claiming the important wicket of Root. Jos Buttler, making his 50th Test appearance, steadied the proceedings with Dom Bess. But Ishant Sharma removed Buttler and Jofra Archer, the next man in, off two consecutive deliveries.

Bess remained unbeaten on 28 with Jack Leach keeping him company (6*) at the end of day two.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2016173
 
Buffet said:
I don't think more than 2-3 times a team has lost after putting 550 in the first inning.
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The current Indian team is basically a GOAT team at home, so you don't want to risk up your chances.

Last time when England toured India, they kept on posting 400+ on board but still kept on losing games one after another. Clearly, that plays a big factor in playing safe. The current Indian team is coming after a great away win where they chased 328 on 4th inning in GABBA. It is better for England to play safe and look to bat first and bat long to post 600 runs.

Chennai is a venue where Sehwag and co once took on England attack and chased 385 in 4th inning in a matter of 100 overs. The current Indian team has Rohit, Gill and Pant with that level of performance.
 
Impressive performance from England.

They should try to bat as long as possible. Bat once.
 
England are tiring Indian bowlers for the next games; what Pujara did to Aussies. They can only win/ draw from here. India should be looking to bat here for 3 days.
 
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