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Happy Kashmir day to all Kashmiris on pakpassion
. To bad this holiday had to be on sunday
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whats kashmir day? can someone please explain?
forgive me for my ignorance
ISLAMABAD: Kashmir Solidarity Day is being observed throughout the country to express unity with the people of Occupied Kashmir in their fight against Indian subjugation.
The day (February 5th) has been observed in Pakistan since 1990 to pay homage to Kashmiri martyrs and highlight the plight for their birth right to self-determination, promised to them by the international community under the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council. The day is observed as a public holiday.
A minutes silence was observed throughout the country at 10.00am by which began with the sounding of sirens. The Prime Minister will host a dinner in honour of prominent Kashmiri leaders in Islamabad. A briefing will be arranged for all foreign mission in Islamabad on the latest situation in Occupied Kashmir, while all major missions abroad will arrange receptions for Pakistanis and Kashmiris.
Rallies, processions, seminars and photo exhibitions have also been arranged by Pakistani missions abroad. Packets containing rations will be given to each family living in refugee camps on behalf of the people of Pakistan.
A painting exhibition on Kashmir culture will be held at Lok Virsa where Kashmiri songs will be played and photos will be displayed. National Council of Arts would arrange Art Bazaar on Kashmir, puppet show and distribution of poster and badges.
Rallies, demonstrations, human chains by men, women and children were seen at various points across the country as well as in Azad Kashmir and the connecting points between Pakistan and Azad Jammu and Kashmir to express solidarity with the struggling Kashmiris. Screening of video documentaries on Kashmir with emphasis on human rights violation also being showed.
Efforts are afoot to draw the attention of international community towards Indian atrocities and barbarities, stressing it to play role in resolution of the Kashmir issue. Special functions being held in educational institutions to apprise the new generation with the Kashmir issue and heroic struggle of the Kashmiri nation for their rights. Essay writing competition with relevance to the Day in schools, colleges and universities are also being arranged.
Television channels and Radio airing special programmes to highlight the different aspects of the Kashmir issue, particularly Indian atrocities against innocent Kashmiris.
May Allah help Kashmir gain freedom from barbaric India. Ameen!
May Allah help Kashmir gain freedom from barbaric India. Ameen!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m in Azad Kashmir for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QeATrophy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QeATrophy</a> and I’m in awe of this place. It’s rightly called heaven on earth. On this <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirSolidarityDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirSolidarityDay</a> , I pray for my brothers and sisters. We stand with you.</p>— Fawad Alam (@iamfawadalam25) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamfawadalam25/status/1092692445157117953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirSolidarityDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirSolidarityDay</a> let’s all make a prayer for our brothers and sisters in Kashmir. ����</p>— Wahab Riaz (@WahabViki) <a href="https://twitter.com/WahabViki/status/1092692401108467712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We Pakistanis ���� salute the perseverance of our valiant kashmiri brothers and sisters.��<br><br>We ���� acknowledge the pain of our Kashmiri brethren .2day n every other day of the year, v stand 2gether in support of our Kashmiri brethren.❤<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirSolidarityDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirSolidarityDay</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/5Feb?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#5Feb</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirDay</a> <a href="https://t.co/mWw74TbIpe">pic.twitter.com/mWw74TbIpe</a></p>— Junaid khan 83 (@JunaidkhanREAL) <a href="https://twitter.com/JunaidkhanREAL/status/1092680299664850944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Is this Junaid Khan the bowler advocating sedition in India?
"iS dIs jUnAiD kHAn bOWlEr adVocaTIng sEdITiOn iN iNDiA?"![]()
Probably a few feel good speeches in certain parts of the world. Get real, those living in IOK are not Pakistanis at all and neither are we able to accommodate them in the current scenario. As I have said before most Kashmiris want complete freedom so let hem fight for it.
Are you misinformed on this subject or just choose to ignore the UN resolution of which Pakistan is a party?
I know it all. Obviously you don't realise your UN has never resolved any issue at all. It is a meaningless organisation.
Doesnt matter if they havent solved any issue or not. Pakistan is a party to its resolution which cannot be denied no matter how you feel about it personally.
I feel that Kashmiris should get want they want. There is no point in going on about a useless and obsolete organisation like the UN. They would have long resolved Kashmir if they had wanted to.
...Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan in majority as [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] will confirm.
[MENTION=142169]PakLFC[/MENTION] your comments about Kashmir are embarrassing. [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] and I are Kashmiris we know the situation thank you.
Truth is always embarrassing to people like you. The Kashmir quagmire is not as simple as you think although India will have to eventually pull out of the valley.
Nobody said it is simple. However I think [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] and I know the truth more than you. Let’s hold a plebiscite.
...Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan in majority as [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] will confirm.
[MENTION=142169]PakLFC[/MENTION] your comments about Kashmir are embarrassing. [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] and I are Kashmiris we know the situation thank you.
I live in NY, but it doesn't mean I know what every new yorker wants. Just because you used to live in Kashmir doesn't mean you're the spokeperson for them.
I live in NY, but it doesn't mean I know what every new yorker wants. Just because you used to live in Kashmir doesn't mean you're the spokeperson for them.
Yep i am sure most of Pakistan would have no issues if Kashmir wants to be independent..Exactly! This is what I have been saying that not every Kashmiri wants a merger with Pak but most do want to leave India. Kashmiris often play the Pakistani card for political mileage. Most want independence from both countries.
Yep i am sure most of Pakistan would have no issues if Kashmir wants to be independent..
You are naive to believe this. 8/10 Kashmir valley districts support Pakistan. Srinagar (capital) dominates headlines and is pro independence. Try going to Baramulla, bandipora, Shopian, Kulgam, Anantnag, Ganderbal and Kupwara where the majority is pro Pakistan.Yep i am sure most of Pakistan would have no issues if Kashmir wants to be independent..
What many Pakistanis need to realise is not everyone of us is obsessed with the valley. Not every Pakistani like me is desperate for Kashmir To become part of Pakistan. When millions in Pak go hungry we are in no position to accommodate so many further people. Our Kashmir is alreeady so very under developed as compared to Indian Kashmir from what I have seen, we have developed nothing there at alll. Those Pakistanis who love Kashmiris so much should go and live across the border in Sri Nagar and other parts of IoK. I have never really been desperate for Kashmir to become part of Pakistan at all. What I am eager to see is India liberate the valley so those people can live peacefully and progress, they obviously don't want to be part of India. After having spoke to so many Kashmiris I have concluded it's best if they don't become a part of Pakistan.
At the Masjid I attend there are many Pakistanis who have softened their stance on the Kashmir issue. Like me they have realised that most Kashmiris want complete independence which should be granted. I don't even want the pro Pakistan Kashmiris anymore. If this problem is ever resolved all Kashmiris must leave Pakistan and live permanently in their "beautiful valley". Shah Gilani type Kashmiris who says "hum Pakistani hein Pakistan hamara hai" is wrong!. You are not Pakistani even if you want to be and millions of Pakistanis like me don't want or need your valley or people. What I agree with is as Muslim's we are obliged in liberating themselves from India. Many Pakistanis will be surprised to see if they investigated that many of us no longer want Kashmir.
Purvez Musharrraf was absolutely correct when saying "Kashmiris first choice is independence". There is nothing wrong with that at all and it should be granted. I will be more then happy for that to happen so that these people can live happily and peacefully. For the few who want to be part of Pakistan millions of Pakistanis don't want them or their valley.
Musharraf had no clue.
8/10 Kashmir valley districts are mainly pro Pakistan.
Musharraf had no clue.
8/10 Kashmir valley districts are mainly pro Pakistan.
I’m at a state where I could care less what Kashmir and its people want whether they want to join Pakistan or stay independent. A good part of me thinks that those buggers don’t even know what they want which is what lead to this mess in the first place. I feel the Kashmiri’s are just leadin Pakistan on to fight it’s bloddy war against India and so in the end they can just go independent. Part of me just wants to loot and suck Kashmir dry since we have all kinds of problems and the last thing on my mind is Kashmir. Those guys should just suck it up and just fend for themselves.
Kashmir should be an independent state where all people irrespective of faith can happily live and work together. Let the Hindu pundits return to their ancestral land as well ending all animosity permanently between Kashmiri people. Pakistan needs to let go of this obsession and monkey on our back to progress rapidly. India also needs to let go of the valley for it's own benefit as well.
Kashmir and it's people are a massive burden on Pakistan, nothing else. I recall going to a Cricket match in Birmingham once where many Pakistanis were telling Kashmiris not to support Pak coz they are not one of us! Many views of Pak people are changing.
Kashmir should be an independent state where all people irrespective of faith can happily live and work together. Let the Hindu pundits return to their ancestral land as well ending all animosity permanently between Kashmiri people. Pakistan needs to let go of this obsession and monkey on our back to progress rapidly. India also needs to let go of the valley for it's own benefit as well.
Kashmir and it's people are a massive burden on Pakistan, nothing else. I recall going to a Cricket match in Birmingham once where many Pakistanis were telling Kashmiris not to support Pak coz they are not one of us! Many views of Pak people are changing.
The reason India is spending a lot of money is the same reason why Pakistan is doing the same. Just to save face and theyvfeel they have no other option. I say screw Kashmir and maybe join hands with India which is only going to be beneficial for both countries. The whole World including Kashmir just wants to see India and Pakistan fight against each other as everyone else profits but India and Pakistan.
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[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]
Your thoughts please?
I think there are some really pathetic posts on this thread especially by an Indian who is pretending to be a Pakistani and a Pakistani who is just dancing to his tunes and making a fool out of himself unknowingly.
Calling Kashmiris attention seekers, criminals etc. is quite shallow given the fact that the bloodshed that we are facing since so many decades is real and not an attention seeking gimmick. Perhaps some of the posters here have had some bad personal experiences with Kashmiris which is making them say all of this because logically speaking it makes no sense. If they want to have nothing to do with Kashmir then they should also support the idea of leaving Azad Kashmir alone. Its plain stupid. We didnt ask for any of this to happen to us. India and Pakistan did this to us from the get go. You cant just wake up one day and say "hey i've dragged you in this mess but i dont wanna do this anymore so you are on your own". I hope most people dont think this way.
Kashmiris will vote for Pakistan in a referendum (Kashmir valley, Chenab valley, Azad Kashmir).
Dude ignore the haters, most Pakistanis don't share those views. I don't even think paklfc is Pakistan, I always believed he was a false flagger.
Genuine question to those who think J&K will cede from India one day - you guys have been doing and saying the same things for years now and nothing has changed, what makes you think things will be any different in the future?
I'm not someone who denies the Kashmiris hatred of India or even the abuses which have taken place at the hands of the security services however nothing the separatists or their supporters have done in the last 15-20 years have got you guys any closer to your goal. Einstein's insanity quote comes to mind.
The only things which could make India agree to the demands of the Kashmiris is:
1 - If economically the financial pain of keeping hold of J&K exceeds the benefits of keeping it - India sees the valley as being really important strategically and have and are investing billions in the hydro sector there. To let it go would be to let go all of that. Sure there's a financial cost in maintaining the status quo but the Indian yearly budget is now $410 billion (and rising quickly) - spending a few % of that each year in J&K isn't going to bankrupt the nation. Also if you take into consideration things like the electricity generated in J&K then the overall cost is mitigated significantly. India may be a country with lots of poor people but as a state it's far wealthier than it was 20 or even 10 years ago. It can afford this conflict easily - others can't.
2 - If diplomatically international pressure becomes too much and it starts to impact the Indian economy. For example, imagine the Gulf nations getting together and saying to India "hold a plebiscite in J&K or we'll no longer sell you oil, hire your workers and we'll send all present workers back". But of course that will never happen because the Gulf nations don't really care, nor do the Americans, the EU or China. Even Turkey only gives token statements about Kashmir these days.
3 - If the military pressure becomes too much. Well in the post 9/11 world we live in Pakistan can no longer offer the same level of support to various terrorist groups like they used to in the late 80s and through the 90s. Also the chances of conventional war between the two neighbours, thankfully, are so small that we won't see another Operation Gibraltar type situation again. A conventional war would bankrupt Pakistan and from India's pov it would set the economy back years.
In the 80s and 90s we had a situation where India was pretty much bankrupt and militancy in the region was rife - India's position was perilous and untenable and had things continued who knows what could have happened.
But the situation is now completely different - each passing day, month and year of the status quo actually increases the Indian state's hold on the region.
I guess the question is what leverage can Pakistan or the anti India Kashmiri groups possibly apply to India to make the latter want to come back to the negotiating table? You guys have no financial clout, very little diplomatic clout and militarily at best both sides cancel each other out. So what is left - prayer, hope, dreams?
Genuine question to those who think J&K will cede from India one day - you guys have been doing and saying the same things for years now and nothing has changed, what makes you think things will be any different in the future?
I'm not someone who denies the Kashmiris hatred of India or even the abuses which have taken place at the hands of the security services however nothing the separatists or their supporters have done in the last 15-20 years have got you guys any closer to your goal. Einstein's insanity quote comes to mind.
The only things which could make India agree to the demands of the Kashmiris is:
1 - If economically the financial pain of keeping hold of J&K exceeds the benefits of keeping it - India sees the valley as being really important strategically and have and are investing billions in the hydro sector there. To let it go would be to let go all of that. Sure there's a financial cost in maintaining the status quo but the Indian yearly budget is now $410 billion (and rising quickly) - spending a few % of that each year in J&K isn't going to bankrupt the nation. Also if you take into consideration things like the electricity generated in J&K then the overall cost is mitigated significantly. India may be a country with lots of poor people but as a state it's far wealthier than it was 20 or even 10 years ago. It can afford this conflict easily - others can't.
2 - If diplomatically international pressure becomes too much and it starts to impact the Indian economy. For example, imagine the Gulf nations getting together and saying to India "hold a plebiscite in J&K or we'll no longer sell you oil, hire your workers and we'll send all present workers back". But of course that will never happen because the Gulf nations don't really care, nor do the Americans, the EU or China. Even Turkey only gives token statements about Kashmir these days.
3 - If the military pressure becomes too much. Well in the post 9/11 world we live in Pakistan can no longer offer the same level of support to various terrorist groups like they used to in the late 80s and through the 90s. Also the chances of conventional war between the two neighbours, thankfully, are so small that we won't see another Operation Gibraltar type situation again. A conventional war would bankrupt Pakistan and from India's pov it would set the economy back years.
In the 80s and 90s we had a situation where India was pretty much bankrupt and militancy in the region was rife - India's position was perilous and untenable and had things continued who knows what could have happened.
But the situation is now completely different - each passing day, month and year of the status quo actually increases the Indian state's hold on the region.
I guess the question is what leverage can Pakistan or the anti India Kashmiri groups possibly apply to India to make the latter want to come back to the negotiating table? You guys have no financial clout, very little diplomatic clout and militarily at best both sides cancel each other out. So what is left - prayer, hope, dreams?
The right of self-determination keeps us going
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Salman Irshad: "Today is 5 Feb, Kashmir Day where Pakistanis have announced they will show solidarity with Kashmir. Since 6+ months, there is a curfew in Kashmir due to which our brothers and sisters in occupied Kashmir are facing difficulties. They don't have things to eat and drink and their lives have been made into a living nightmare. I appeal to the whole world to raise a voice on the Kashmir issue so that Kashmir's problems can be figured out and they people can live according to their wishes. Kashmiris have always wished to be a part of Pakistan and I am hopeful that occupied Kashmir will soon be a part of Pakistan."