Kent v Pakistan | Kent | June 28 - 30 | 3 day tour game

[deviously~fading~away]

Wrong!!!

Last time Yk and Moyo played brilliantly at lords and we drew that test match...We lost the second two but both Yk and Moyo did very well...Apart from at Old Trafford our batting held together pretty well due to Moyo and YK..Our bowling was second string and that together with our drop catches we ended up going two down...

Oval is well documented..We should have won that match but instead ened up conceding it due to ball temperin fiasco...

This time around we are playing 6 test matches with only one batsman who overages over 40 so yes it could be far worse this time around then in 2006!

Apologies forgot about the 1st test being a draw.

There is no point & i repeat no point in YK & Moyo going well when Pakistan at the end of the day lost the test matches! The score line reads as such:

Test matches Pakistan lost 3-0
Odi matches Pakistan lost 3-2

YK & Moyo doing well does not result in the scoreline being changed so i can care less about how well they did as long as Pakistan lost!

 

[A.M.]

:umarakmal and :akmal playing nw

 

[Xoib]

thanks for sharing mate

poor shot by Malik

don't be harsh on him he is at the same stage where Younis was after 30 tests he will average 60 over the next 5 years.

 

[A.M.]

117/4 after 29

 

[A.M.]

another single

 

[*syed59*]

leech and his brother resumes innings after lunch

 

[A.M.]

:umarakmal average reaches 50

 

[IMMY69]

Don't know how true that is or where you got the info; iirc in an interview he said he was disappointed to miss out on the U15 world cup squad initially but was called up later due to someone getting injured -- he said he was purely a spin bowler at that time.

Of course if he scored all those runs in u19 tests then he would have moved up the batting order -- just like he started moving up the batting order after scoring runs in ODI cricket.
Don't see the relevance of first class cricket, especially Pak domestic, when he is a seasoned international player.

He played at number 6 in a youth test match in February 1999...Soon after that he scored a hundred for Pakistan in an odi against the windies..So for 10 years, after having played as a batsman, his overall FC average is only 30...

The relevant of first class cricket is huge even though its only Pak domestic cricket...Simply because all the class batsman that have played international cricket have got decent fc averages..You only have to look at Miandad, Inzy, Moyo and Yk's firstclass averages. If they average 50 in FC then you know they are adept at playing long innings and this is tranferred into international cricket. You can even add Umar Akmal into the mix, in his short FC career he averages just below 50...

If Malik can average 30 in FC then what on earth are the chances of him averging 50 in a series let alone 40+?????

The relevance is huge as highlighted by today's innings which is actually just shy of his overall FC record.

Ina team where a rookie of 5 test matches is the only one who averages over 40 then the likes of Malik are not going to help us save let alone win test matches...

Hope I'm wrong.....

 

[COMEBACKID]

His wife should be batting not him

 

[IMMY69]

Apologies forgot about the 1st test being a draw.

There is no point & i repeat no point in YK & Moyo going well when Pakistan at the end of the day lost the test matches! The score line reads as such:

Test matches Pakistan lost 3-0
Odi matches Pakistan lost 3-2

YK & Moyo doing well does not result in the scoreline being changed so i can care less about how well they did as long as Pakistan lost!

You're completely missing the point...

What I'm saying is that if 2006 was bad, and we had three worldclass middle order batsmen in 2006, then what the hell are we in for now?????

The 2006 team came out with some plaudits in that everyone accepted that YK and Moyo were absolutely worldclass, if not in the top 4 or 5 in the world...Everyone also accepted the fact that we had an extremely weakened bowling lineup missing Asif and Akhtar and having to rely on Shahid Nazir, Gul and a Sami who was bowling about 10 mph below his top pace!

 

[A.M.]

122/4

 

[A.M.]

2 more to :akmal

 

[COMEBACKID]

126/4

 

[A.M.]

another 2 to :akmal

 

[1two3]

His wife should be batting not him

His Wife is also staying in UK currently... ..

 

[A.M.]

127/4

 

[Ummer Khan]

couple of 4`s by khatmal jr

 

[COMEBACKID]

His Wife is also staying in UK currently... ..

loool thats great news she can bat for him

 

[A.M.]

to :umarakmal

 

[ahmed16]

He played at number 6 in a youth test match in February 1999...Soon after that he scored a hundred for Pakistan in an odi against the windies..So for 10 years, after having played as a batsman, his overall FC average is only 30...

The relevant of first class cricket is huge even though its only Pak domestic cricket...Simply because all the class batsman that have played international cricket have got decent fc averages..You only have to look at Miandad, Inzy, Moyo and Yk's firstclass averages. If they average 50 in FC then you know they are adept at playing long innings and this is tranferred into international cricket. You can even add Umar Akmal into the mix, in his short FC career he averages just below 50...

If Malik can average 30 in FC then what on earth are the chances of him averging 50 in a series let alone 40+?????

The relevance is huge as highlighted by today's innings which is actually just shy of his overall FC record.

Ina team where a rookie of 5 test matches is the only one who averages over 40 then the likes of Malik are not going to help us save let alone win test matches...

Hope I'm wrong.....

Hasnt played alot of first class of cricket for PIA, have a look at the records, but if you go from 2004 onwards, when he really came to prominence as a Pakistan number 6 and then number 3, his average is actually above 40 in 4 day matches, around 42, pre 2004 his average is around 22, so clearly the 40 plus average post 2004 has elevated his overall average to 30. He also played less matches 2004-2010 then 1998-2004 for some weird reason, perhaps less confidence in first class matches. In List A matches, hes played more post 2004 and and less pre-2004.
But still overall average is nowhere near 50, he has scored more hundreds since 2004 on the domestic scene then he did since his debut, it represents a clear improvement in his batting, but i think he is not good enough to score the amount of runs that would elevate his average to 50.

 

[COMEBACKID]

:umarakmal come on 6 more

 

[Xoib]

hopefully Akmal jr can bat time.

 

[deviously~fading~away]

You're completely missing the point...

What I'm saying is that if 2006 was bad, and we had three worldclass middle order batsmen in 2006, then what the hell are we in for now?????

The 2006 team came out with some plaudits in that everyone accepted that YK and Moyo were absolutely worldclass, if not in the top 4 or 5 in the world...Everyone also accepted the fact that we had an extremely weakened bowling lineup missing Asif and Akhtar and having to rely on Shahid Nazir, Gul and a Sami who was bowling about 10 mph below his top pace!

Lets wait & watch. The losing results are there for all to see from 2006. At the end of the series we can see how comparatively well or poor the current lot performance is to the team in 06.

 

[A.M.]

to :akmal

 

[ali2220]

This team has just three batter, 2 Akmals and a Butt.Farhat and Afridi might chip in with some useful runs, but i can't see them posting a 200+ total.

 

[COMEBACKID]

Imran khan told him to bowl line and length thats why he reduced his pace but on the 5th day he start bowling full pace.

 

[1two3]

loool thats great news she can bat for him

She is there with her Tennis Matches playing @ Wimbledon . Her Forehand and Backhand strokes can do really well for in this case.

 

[IMMY69]

Lets wait & watch. The losing results are there for all to see from 2006. At the end of the series we can see how comparatively well or poor the current lot performance is to the team in 06.

Absolutely!! I am always hopeful and will be backing all the boys including Malik...My only concern is that Malik is not a test class batsman, but then with the squad we have there's no one else we can go to for experience!

 

[A.M.]

another by :akmal

 

[COMEBACKID]

This team has just three batter, 2 Akmals and a Butt.Farhat and Afridi might chip in with some useful runs, but i can't see them posting a 200+ total.

I completely agree with you 100% there batting is fragile so i dont see 200 plus totals in most of the test matches maybe in a few but not as many but if they lose a test or two they will grantee give a call up

 

[A.M.]

Absolutely!! I am always hopeful and will be backing all the boys including Malik...My only concern is that Malik is not a test class batsman, but then with the squad we have there's no one else we can go to for experience!

we should not keep a negative mind it looks like most of us have lost the series before even it has started we should be positive and wait till the series end and support the team

 

[kuthaman]

Kammy turning on the heat, SIX!

 

[COMEBACKID]

She is there with her Tennis Matches playing @ Wimbledon . Her Forehand and Backhand strokes can do really well for in this case.

loool very true and she can use his skill of messing up the wimbeldon by causing fights in the championships

 

[hashbb]

Big bro

 

[A.M.]

and a by :akmal

 

[ali2220]

I completely agree with you 100% there batting is fragile so i dont see 200 plus totals in most of the test matches maybe in a few but not as many but if they lose a test or two they will grantee give a call up

I'm sure Afridi and Waqar will ask for Younis, but i will be shocked to see MR Butt agree to such a proposal.

 

[COMEBACKID]

the brother of destruction are turning the heat on

 

[A.M.]

come on :umarakmal get to ur fifty

 

[A.M.]

single to :umarakmal
his average is increasing by every run

 

[COMEBACKID]

I'm sure Afridi and Waqar will ask for Younis, but i will be shocked to see MR Butt agree to such a proposal.

i know has got a personal problem with ijazz is a fool he is only thinking about himself who cares about him 70+ waste of trash let them play to there potential with the best talent and if they still lose then you can be proud because then you know that atleast we gave it our best

 

[A.M.]

to get to his fifty :umarakmal

2nd fifty in two days

 

[COMEBACKID]

50 for umar mubarkah ))))))))

 

[A.M.]

and nw a

 

[COMEBACKID]

49 more to go umar come on you can do it

 

[A.M.]

and a single

 

[A.M.]

171/4 after 39
:umarakmal
:akmal

 

[IMMY69]

we should not keep a negative mind it looks like most of us have lost the series before even it has started we should be positive and wait till the series end and support the team

If I was actually in the side or part of the squad or the management then sure...But other then that I'm not a supersticious bloke. It is how it is, doesnt mean that we can't punch above our weight but I'm just being releastic...

Lets hope the team proves me wrong, and especially Malik who I think is well below testclass!

 

[A.M.]

If I was actually in the side or part of the squad or the management then sure...But other then that I'm not a supersticious bloke. It is how it is, doesnt mean that we can't punch above our weight but I'm just being releastic...

Lets hope the team proves me wrong, and especially Malik who I think is well below testclass!

so that means we have lost the series

 

[A.M.]

/\ before it has started

by the way another

 

[A.M.]

If I was actually in the side or part of the squad or the management then sure...But other then that I'm not a supersticious bloke. It is how it is, doesnt mean that we can't punch above our weight but I'm just being releastic...

Lets hope the team proves me wrong, and especially Malik who I think is well below testclass!

atleast we should keep some hope and back our team to win

 

[A.M.]

and another :umarakmal

 

[A.M.]

:akmal gone

 

[A.M.]

will come now

 

[zainul_abedin]

144/4 last I saw Amin out 2 butt, fawad n malik all out in 20s Umar and Kamran Akmal 44 aand 14 no.Sorry that is old news. Isee 179/4

 

[whyhkk]

Afridi is in. This will be interesting.

 

[hashbb]

Haha whenever they get in a new bowler they get a wicket

 

[IMMY69]

so that means we have lost the series

Why? Because of my views...wow

I also think I'm gonna win the lottery tomorrow

 

[Kray_jackson7]

OH MY GOD!!! afridi is on 0 (4)*

 

[Afridi_Fan]

4 balls and no runs.

 

[hashbb]

four dot bowl to afridi, that must hear him lol

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Make that five dot balls, something has definitely changed.

 

[T20_Cricket]

Is it ODI or 3 Day match?

 

[Kray_jackson7]

Is it ODI or 3 Day match?

3 day game

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Is it ODI or 3 Day match?

doesn't play 5 dot balls in an ODI.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

has an impact on :umarakmal

3 dot balls for Jr.

 

[zahid01]

afridi out 0 of 6 balls

 

[hashbb]

Afridi out...now what do we do

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Beastly beginning to the tour.

) ) ) ) ) ) ) )

 

[Kray_jackson7]

now we can stop following it...

Wonder what he tried doing? i bet the bird in the sky didnt survive the mighty blow it received.
after this innings i wonder if his number one fan would be back after a week long absence from the forums

 

[iRfaN_LA]

:umarakmal is the sher of team

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Afridi out...now what do we do

Lets bash him, watch out for a specific saeed-sohail in this thread later.

 

[A.M.]

Why? Because of my views...wow

I also think I'm gonna win the lottery tomorrow

i meant u think that we have lost the series

 

[hashbb]

at least 220

 

[Sakss]

kent k khilaf ye haal ha...

is this a hilight of whats going to happen this summer....?

Paks need to get their act right..im really worried

 

[Afridi_Fan]

now we can stop following it...

Wonder what he tried doing? i bet the bird in the sky didnt survive the mighty blow it received.
after this innings i wonder if his number one fan would be back after a week long absence from the forums

Oh Yes, he will be back soon. Lets wait for his arrival, but his absence hasn't been felt due to a specific group of fans since the day the squad was announced.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

The batsmen crossed, so one thing is certain wasn't caught in the slips.

 

[iRfaN_LA]

Don't worry guys, its important to keep low-profile in warm-up matches

 

[zahid01]

Afridi out...now what do we do

you have high hopes on afridi you better get used to these kinds of scores these pitches in england are not dead afridi will be exploited with swing and short pitch bowling

 

[WNC]

Somebody please clone Umar Akmal! We need more batsmen like him!

We're screwed...

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Don't worry guys, its important to keep low-profile in warm-up matches

Aye, whenever we lose practice games history knows we do well.