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Khaleel Ahmed vs Shaheen Shah Afridi

Khaleel,Avesh and Saini are touring WI with India A.Let us see how they perform in ODIs and tests.No idea how which players are in WI A team or how good they are.
 
One is playing International cricket other is not? Its impossible to to even make a comparison at this moment in time. For all we know Khaleel may never okay international cricket or ODIs again?
 
Khaleel is a terrible bowler, OP is clueless about fast bowling.

If he wants to make silly Pak vs India comparisons for Shaheen, he should pick Navdeep Saini or Shivam Mavi from the Indian side. Even Nagarkoti and Avesh are better prospects than this garbage Khaleel.
 
Artaxerxes said:
Khaleel,Avesh and Saini are touring WI with India A.Let us see how they perform in ODIs and tests.No idea how which players are in WI A team or how good they are.
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Why does Pakistan not have a A team that plays international cricket?
 
Lol
Shaheen is miles ahead than terrible Khaleel.

Indian selectors fancy to pick left arm pacers but unfortunately there is no quality.
We failed to produce quality left arm pacers after Zak and Irfan patan
 
Finally a comparison goes Pakistan’s way.

Shaheen is far better than Khaleel.

India need to stop the fascination of having a left armer for the sake of it.
 
Khaleel bowled well in third t20
Got potential and pace ( bowls about 140-145 k )

Shaheen is miles ahead but a season of ipl and a county season will change khaleel
 
lol is this a joke. One with ATG potential vs a dud cannon fast fodder with zero skills. khaleel is like terrible.
 
docteurmanish said:
Khaleel bowled well in third t20
Got potential and pace ( bowls about 140-145 k )

Shaheen is miles ahead but a season of ipl and a county season will change khaleel
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COunty clubs will pick the best possible players that can win them matches. They won't pick an untested player because he can bowl at decent pace.
 
I read somewhere that at one time, Khaleel conceded 7 consecutive 4s, of course over 2 games!

Is it true?
 
MP2011 said:
I read somewhere that at one time, Khaleel conceded 7 consecutive 4s, of course over 2 games!

Is it true?
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Yes!
Last 4 balls of his spell in 1st T20 and first 3 balls of his spell in 2nd T20.
 
If they were mobile phones then Shaheed Afridi is One Plus 6T McLaren edition while Khaleel Ahmed would be Micromax :facepalm:
 
Kaptan said:
Yes!
Last 4 balls of his spell in 1st T20 and first 3 balls of his spell in 2nd T20.
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Thanks.

Truly horrendous! I'm pained at seeing no talent from our victorious under-19 team has yet been given a chance. Instead this brainless cricketer is being chances after chances.

Srikanth said it bluntly in his column, Khaleel is not cut out for this level of cricket.
 
Khaleel is poor man's mustafizur , while afridi is poor man's boult .

No sorry even better, khaleel is poor man's McClenaghan, while afridi is poor man's johnson.

I mean why do we create such embarrassing thread, there is no comparison. Its like comparing Rana Naved to Stuart broad
 
India would be lucky to get a talent like afridi, all i see is dibly dubly like chahar, saran, khaleel, dhawal kulkarni type bowlers. We need Mavi, Nagarkoti, umesh, aaron, shami and bumrah types . Enough of this ******** venkatesh prasad academy bowlers.
 
What Khaleel can do Shaheen cant. Khaleel’s one ball is better than all of Shaheen’s wickets. Khaleel is an attacking bowler while Shaheen takes soft wickets.

These comments are gonna appear after Khaleel ever takes coupel of 3fers just like it happened on another thread. :wahab2
 
SSA is going head and shoulders ahead but thats because of the chances he is gettng and thats becz of sorry state of our team

Where its almost impossible for Khaleel to break in the indian team at the min, SSA just walked in becz there was no competition

and bcz of the chances he has created an equater of a gap between himself and everyone of his age group

then again, would Kahleel have seen similar rise, probably not... SSA is more skillful than Khaleel, much superior but Khaleel was blocked by better bowlers in indian circuit whre was the coward Aamir and ageing Wahab gave SSA the empty space to come in and thrive
 
Rellu_Katta said:
SSA is going head and shoulders ahead but thats because of the chances he is gettng and thats becz of sorry state of our team

Where its almost impossible for Khaleel to break in the indian team at the min, SSA just walked in becz there was no competition

and bcz of the chances he has created an equater of a gap between himself and everyone of his age group

then again, would Kahleel have seen similar rise, probably not... SSA is more skillful than Khaleel, much superior but Khaleel was blocked by better bowlers in indian circuit whre was the coward Aamir and ageing Wahab gave SSA the empty space to come in and thrive
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Thses are all speculations. Fact is we dont know hiw bad or good khaleel wouldve been.

For now SSA is ahead. There is no compairison
 
Rellu_Katta said:
SSA is going head and shoulders ahead but thats because of the chances he is gettng and thats becz of sorry state of our team

Where its almost impossible for Khaleel to break in the indian team at the min, SSA just walked in becz there was no competition

and bcz of the chances he has created an equater of a gap between himself and everyone of his age group

then again, would Kahleel have seen similar rise, probably not... SSA is more skillful than Khaleel, much superior but Khaleel was blocked by better bowlers in indian circuit whre was the coward Aamir and ageing Wahab gave SSA the empty space to come in and thrive
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Nah, SSA would walk into India's first XI (in all formats as well). He's class.

Along with Babar, he's only one of the two players I rate in this Pakistan side.
 
You can shut down this thread. Khaleel ahmed is garbage. People got carried away with his 140k balls. Then he became a trundler.
 
khaleel wasted his opportunities at the international level to impress upon.
After Zaheer, RP singh, Aasshis nehra and pathan, India's search for that left arm pacer resulted in failures in unadkat and khaleel. If any, left-arm pacers always troubled Indian batsmen like Amir did in the past.

Also, I think it has to do with the club RCB also - the international exposure in IPL did not help him even though played a lot along with Kohli in RCB, which is a trash bowling side and most of their bowlers are smashed around is what I read in news, the latest casualty is southee.

And I have not seen khaleel bowling consistent line and length - these are basics.
Swing and pace come later. I feel it is time India look at other prospects if they are available.

As for shaheen, he is bound to become Pak's leading wicket-taking bowler if he is not over-burned.
This thread ended in a damp squib.
 
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topspin said:
Nah, SSA would walk into India's first XI (in all formats as well). He's class.

Along with Babar, he's only one of the two players I rate in this Pakistan side.
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He wont walk into India’s Test side for sure. If he can improve his batting, he can replace Shardul Takur in LOIs.
 
shaheen or saini? shaheen.
shaheen or bhuvi in test? bhuvi for now
in odi and t20 shaheen.

shaheen is better than all indian bowlers except bumrah and shami. He is still young though.
 
tyron_woodley said:
shaheen or saini? shaheen.
shaheen or bhuvi in test? bhuvi for now
in odi and t20 shaheen.

shaheen is better than all indian bowlers except bumrah and shami. He is still young though.
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Ishant and Umesh are better than him in Test.
And both can bat better than him. So he ain't beating them to get into our test team.
 
Shaheen vs Khaleel, right now, NO CONTEST!

Shaheen is the best U25 left-arm prospect in world cricket.
 
tyron_woodley said:
ah yes ishant. my bad. Umesh? umesh ia great in india only. Poor away from home.
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He didn’t get much opportunities outside India to be honest. And he has improved a lot after his failure in Australia. Also Shaheen had only two overseas outings and didnt do much in Australia.
I am pretty sure he has the talent to beat Umesh and Ishant if he continue bowling like this. But at this moment and with current form, I would take Umesh ahead of him in Tests.
 
Dingolfy said:
He didn’t get much opportunities outside India to be honest. And he has improved a lot after his failure in Australia. Also Shaheen had only two overseas outings and didnt do much in Australia.
I am pretty sure he has the talent to beat Umesh and Ishant if he continue bowling like this. But at this moment and with current form, I would take Umesh ahead of him in Tests.
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Umesh was never out of form at home,he is always great with SG ball the problem is he has never learned how to ball with a Kookaburra ball but you are right he got very few chance in overseas.
 
Shaheen is slotted to be a future ATG and his comparisons are with zero substance. Day and night difference. What a fantastic find for Pakistan cricket.
 
Slim said:
Shaheen is slotted to be a future ATG and his comparisons are with zero substance. Day and night difference. What a fantastic find for Pakistan cricket.
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Future ATG? :))

Wouldn't make India B right now.

Khaleel though makes everyone look better, Shaheen clearly ahead, no comparison.
 
Arya said:
Future ATG? :))

Wouldn't make India B right now.

Khaleel though makes everyone look better, Shaheen clearly ahead, no comparison.
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India B?

Except Bumrah and Shami, who do you even have?
 
Shaheen is several levels ahead of Khaleel. A terrible comparison.
 
This comparison didn't last long, now this thread will be used to belittle or over hype Shaheen for few pages. Khaleel won't be even mentioned in this thread.
 
Kingpin786 said:
all third class
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Still way better than the attack that Ponting called the worst ever to visit Australia. :))

Competing against a second string Bangladesh may be giving you false hopes though, I understand.
 
big_gamer007 said:
This comparison didn't last long, now this thread will be used to belittle or over hype Shaheen for few pages. Khaleel won't be even mentioned in this thread.
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You can sense from the shift in Indian poster's behavior from appreciative to belittling that Shaheen has reached the next level, and is now considered as a threat.
 
Slim said:
You can sense from the shift in Indian poster's behavior from appreciative to belittling that Shaheen has reached the next level, and is now considered as a threat.
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That's how most threads are on PP. Most posters have some sort of a chip on their shoulders.
 
Slim said:
You can sense from the shift in Indian poster's behavior from appreciative to belittling that Shaheen has reached the next level, and is now considered as a threat.
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That is the thing with these guys, they have some great sportsmen but looks like most of the just lack the sportsman spirit to appreciate skills in an opponent’s team. Atleast on this (Pakistani) forum, we appreciate all players with skills regardless of their country. Hope we never go down to that level where we stop enjoying cricket !
 
Definitely goof competition. Both appear to be at exactly similiar level although Khaleel has not received the chances that Shaheen has gotten.

Shaheen has been a big disappointment especially in away conditions and has not even flourished in more familiar home conditions. However frankly he does not seem to have the natural talent to improve any further and will possibly never have international level skills

Khaleel in his 1-2 chances shows determination and rapid capacity to improve and can definitely have capacity to far exceed Shaheen if he works hard.

Since thread has now lasted 5 pages, i believe above is a fair comparison of each players batting ability
 
pratiktc said:
Definitely goof competition. Both appear to be at exactly similiar level although Khaleel has not received the chances that Shaheen has gotten.

Shaheen has been a big disappointment especially in away conditions and has not even flourished in more familiar home conditions. However frankly he does not seem to have the natural talent to improve any further and will possibly never have international level skills

Khaleel in his 1-2 chances shows determination and rapid capacity to improve and can definitely have capacity to far exceed Shaheen if he works hard.

Since thread has now lasted 5 pages, i believe above is a fair comparison of each players batting ability
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Lol what? He is 19 AND he has got all the skills a left armer needs. Are we talking about the same bowler?
 
pratiktc said:
Definitely goof competition. Both appear to be at exactly similiar level although Khaleel has not received the chances that Shaheen has gotten.

Shaheen has been a big disappointment especially in away conditions and has not even flourished in more familiar home conditions. However frankly he does not seem to have the natural talent to improve any further and will possibly never have international level skills

Khaleel in his 1-2 chances shows determination and rapid capacity to improve and can definitely have capacity to far exceed Shaheen if he works hard.

Since thread has now lasted 5 pages, i believe above is a fair comparison of each players batting ability
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? lol you can't be serious.
 
Shaheen is way better.

In test matches i"ll take bumrah,shami and ishant over him for now but i think that he"ll become a better bowler then shami in a couple of years.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Shaheen is way better.

In test matches i"ll take bumrah,shami and ishant over him for now but i think that he"ll become a better bowler then shami in a couple of years.
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shami at his best is easily amongst top 3 best bowlers in the world. He still is. After about 3 years we will see him decline due to age.

Shaheen is capable of being a great bowler absolutely. only time will tell.
 
tyron_woodley said:
shami at his best is easily amongst top 3 best bowlers in the world. He still is. After about 3 years we will see him decline due to age.

Shaheen is capable of being a great bowler absolutely. only time will tell.
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No he's not.
Cummins,hazlewood,rabada,bumrah,anderson,pattinson,wagner are better than him in test format.
He's on par with starc ,boult,broad in tests.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
No he's not.
Cummins,hazlewood,rabada,bumrah,anderson,pattinson,wagner are better than him in test format.
He's on par with starc ,boult,broad in tests.
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shami's average is the same as Anderson and in the last 4 year's he is ranked number 2 easily with an average of under 23. He is easily top 3 in the world. It's asinine to dispute that fact. Hazelwood isn't better than shami in any country apart from australia. shami has outbowled him everywhere else comfortably over the past 4 years.

So much disrespect towards shami. I just can't believe it. Wagner? are you serious?
Who in their right mind would choose Wagner over shami. Pattinson? lol yea in australia sure. Everywhere else apart from England and australia, shami would ha e the better bowling average.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Read his whole post, he is talking about batting abilities. I think his post is a fair assesment as well of both players batting abilities.
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your job is to bowl. not be a bowler who can bat a bit. Shaheen is a better bowler and it's futile to compare a player as good as shaheen to an unproven kid like khaleel. shaheen has world class skills at such a young age. There is no reason why he can't grow in a top tier player in the future. He is getting there at a rather quick rate.
 
tyron_woodley said:
your job is to bowl. not be a bowler who can bat a bit. Shaheen is a better bowler and it's futile to compare a player as good as shaheen to an unproven kid like khaleel. shaheen has world class skills at such a young age. There is no reason why he can't grow in a top tier player in the future. He is getting there at a rather quick rate.
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Hmm don't think you understand the meaning of a joke/troll post. Not sure why you are getting all worked up about it.
 
Ab Fan said:
Saini, Chahar, Bhuvi and Thakur.
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Chahar averages 64.50 in ODIs, 35 in FC and 28 in List A.

Saini averages 46 in ODIs right now, 28 in FC and List A.

Thakur averages 47 in ODIs, 28 in FC and List A.

Bhuvneshwar Kumar averages 26 in tests and 34 in ODIs.


Shaheen Averages 27 in tests and 21 in ODIs.

Here are the facts.
 
Dingolfy said:
He wont walk into India’s Test side for sure. If he can improve his batting, he can replace Shardul Takur in LOIs.
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Even if all of India's pace trio were superior to Shaheen, India could do with a tall left-arm 140+ bowler in their team.

I also believe it's one of the reasons why India hasn't won an ICC white ball tournament in the last seven years.
 
tyron_woodley said:
your job is to bowl. not be a bowler who can bat a bit. Shaheen is a better bowler and it's futile to compare a player as good as shaheen to an unproven kid like khaleel. shaheen has world class skills at such a young age. There is no reason why he can't grow in a top tier player in the future. He is getting there at a rather quick rate.
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Shaheen will be an ATG if there are no injuries, Khaleel or another bowler will come for 2-3 years but Shaheen will be there for decades if there are no injuries.
 
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The discussion was that Khaleel is nowhere close to the best fast bowler India have. So, who all do we have? Apart from Bumrah and Shami, we had Saini, Bhuvi, Chahar and Thakur all four better than Khaleel. So, total six.

Shaheen is very talented, congrats, finally you have got a good fast bowler after Shoaib Akhtar who can become atleast Pakistan great if he fulfills 70% of his talent.
 
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Ab Fan said:
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The discussion was that Khaleel is nowhere close to the best fast bowler India have. So, who all do we have? Apart from Bumrah and Shami, we had Saini, Bhuvi, Chahar and Thakur all four better than Khaleel. So, total six.

Shaheen is very talented, congrats, finally you have got a good fast bowler after Shoaib Akhtar who can become atleast Pakistan great if he fulfills 70% of his talent.
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The discussion was about Khaleel vs Shaheen, and the conclusion after your post is that he is definitely not better than Shaheen at all and hence you brought in another set of unknowns into the discussion. Would be best to have 6 more threads to track who is better.

All your 4 unknowns are worse than our second star-in-the-making: Naseem Shah. So we actually deserve more congrats given that we have 4 bowlers better than your new bowlers [faster speed, more variety etc etc.] (note I am not talking about Bumrah and Shami since they are already better than our last generation of bowlers)

1. Shaheen
2. Naseem Shah
3. Hasnain
4. Musa
 
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