Mitchell Starc's century with the ball against Pakistan!

[Hawkeye]

Before the series, I recall most here were literally scared of Mitchell Starc, how he can bowl 150 plus etc etc.

In practice, however, Pak has totally nullified him. And he even scored a century, i.e. giving away more than 120 runs in a single innings at the MCG Test!

Just 1 wicket at a poor economy.

What really happened? Were we too good for Starc and his 'thunderbolts'?

I always thought Hazlewood is going to cause some real trouble and we'll easily cart Starc around, which we did.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Starc in his 2nd last over bowled 149.5 kph and in his last over he bowled one at 151.9 kph.

These were 123rd and 125th overs of the innings.


I am amazed with his bowling fitness, stamena and energy levels.


Young bowlers should get inspired by this.

 

[The_Odd_One]

He's not that great in tests. Hazlewood is easily the better bowler.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Starc in his 2nd last over bowled 149.5 kph and in his last over he bowled one at 151.9 kph.

These were 123rd and 125th overs of the innings.


I am amazed with his bowling fitness, stamena and energy levels.


Young bowlers should get inspired by this.

He's bowling with great rhythm. Effortless pace.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Hazlewood was one short of a wicket-less century last game in the 2nd innings. He hasn't really troubled us, we just lack the strokemakers that can score off him.

 

[Hawkeye]

Starc in his 2nd last over bowled 149.5 kph and in his last over he bowled one at 151.9 kph.

These were 123rd and 125th overs of the innings.


I am amazed with his bowling fitness, stamena and energy levels.


Young bowlers should get inspired by this.

Yup!

Was still bowling 150 plus in the last few overs.

But it's just a lesson for folks here that you need not to fear 'pace'. Our batsmen are never troubled by pace, heck most intl batsmen are not.

What matters is line and movement at that pace.

I think Starc is very very good, but we're just too good for him.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Before the series, I recall most here were literally scared of Mitchell Starc, how he can bowl 150 plus etc etc.

In practice, however, Pak has totally nullified him. And he even scored a century, i.e. giving away more than 120 runs in a single innings at the MCG Test!

Just 1 wicket at a poor economy.

What really happened? Were we too good for Starc and his 'thunderbolts'?

I always thought Hazlewood is going to cause some real trouble and we'll easily cart Starc around, which we did.

I hope he doesn't pick any 4fer or 5fer in next 3 innings for Pak sake but


Do not rule him out as a Test Fast bowler. He is not an ordinary bowler by any stretch. Such actions will take time in test cricket.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

He's bowling with great rhythm. Effortless pace.

Yes.

I have not given up on him.


I won't be surprised if after couple of years he becomes a menacing deadly fast bowler. He could have peak Johnson's like 3-4 years. And importantly Australian system has all the tools to explore that potential.


Bowlers can have on and off series so I am not flustered plus Starc isn't some one who can bowl in one channel repeatedly. His action won't allow it so he shouldn't be seen as those bowlers.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Yes.

I have not given up on him.


I won't be surprised if after couple of years he becomes a menacing deadly fast bowler. He could have peak Johnson's like 3-4 years. And importantly Australian system has all the tools to explore that potential.


Bowlers can have on and off series so I am not flustered plus Starc isn't some one who can bowl in one channel repeatedly. His action won't allow it so he shouldn't be seen as those bowlers.

There's no doubt he will improve.

He's not a Johnson type bowler. His core doesn't hold up like Johnson which generated extra lift. Starc's arm also drops more. What he's missing atm are more deliveries in the inbetween length which makes you play. He will find that length eventually the more he bowls.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Shows that the bowling talent in the world is at all time low and its worsening by conditions/ball.

 

[Mamoon]

Azhar really played him exceptionally well, but let's not get too excited here. Starc is indeed the premium pacer in world cricket at the moment with astonishing fitness levels.

Everyone has his bad days.

 

[Vivek_86]

He is just a left arm version of Brett Lee. Just pace and no other skill.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Azhar really played him exceptionally well, but let's not get too excited here. Starc is indeed the premium pacer in world cricket at the moment with astonishing fitness levels.

Everyone has his bad days.

If you are tonked around in your own park by a tailender with such ease then it means you are definitely not worldclass , best in the world currently ? may be yes but definitely far below the level of past greats.

 

[Mamoon]

If you are tonked around in your own park by a tailender then it means you are definitely not worldclass , best in the world currently ? may be yes and definitely far below the level of past greats.

Yes because the past greats have never been tonked at various points in their careers. Starc and Rabada are leading the way for young pacers today, and let's see how far these two go. No one else comes close.

If I was an Australian, Starc would be the last player I would worry about.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Yes because the past greats have never been tonked at various points in their careers. Starc and Rabada are leading the way for young pacers today, and let's see how far these two go. No one else comes close.

If I was an Australian, Starc would be the last player I would worry about.

The point is not about getting tonked by a tailender but looking toothless against a tailender in the process , which past greats never looked like.

 

[Mamoon]

The point is not about getting tonked by a tailender but looking toothless against a tailender in the process , which past greats never looked like.

Past greats also had the luxury of bowling to completely inept tailenders. They got a lot of cheap, free wickets.

Tailenders have improved a lot over the years, and both Amir and Sohail had their fair share of luck in this innings. It is one of those games for Starc and every bowler has gone through these games, including the past greats.

If Starc was consistently impactless like Amir, it would have been a concern, but that is not the case. He has been bowling brilliantly for a while now.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

^No one doubting his ability as a current beast of a bowler but the fact is he is no match for past greats.

 

[hk031992]

Starc practically won Australia the last game. Hazlewood is a slightly better and more consistent bowler than Starc but when Aus need someone to give them a quick wicket, Starc is the man

 

[hk031992]

^No one doubting his ability as a current beast of a bowler but the fact is he is no match for past greats.

Not yet sure. Who knows where he will be in 5 years? I think he will end his career as an ATG/close to ATG level.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Not yet sure. Who knows where he will be in 5 years? I think he will end his career as an ATG/close to ATG level.

Definitely not ATG but will end up as a great bowler of his time and possibly the best of the coming decade.

 

[Indiafan]

The point is not about getting tonked by a tailender but looking toothless against a tailender in the process , which past greats never looked like.

Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar all have had similar days.

 

[Mamoon]

Starc is the closest thing to Waqar the game has had in two decades. He's already arguably the greatest of them all in ODIs. The criticism is unjustifiable in my opinion.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Starc is the closest thing to Waqar the game has had in two decades. He's already arguably the greatest of them all in ODIs. The criticism is unjustifiable in my opinion.

If you are talking about Waqar in his prime then Ab ye kuch ziada hi hogaya.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Starc is a different beast in ODIs

 

[Mamoon]

If you are talking about Waqar in his prime then Ab ye kuch ziada hi hogaya.

That's why I said 'closest thing'. Peak Waqar was better in my view, more menacing and lethal, however we cannot ignore the fact that Waqar benefited a lot from ball-tampering. His biggest strength was reversing the old ball. Tampering with the ball was a lot easier at that time, and we made good use of it with bottle caps.

Outside his peak, Waqar was very good but current Starc is better. By the time he retires, he will be remembered as a superior bowler most probably.

 

[soso_killer]

Shows that the bowling talent in the world is at all time low and its worsening by conditions/ball.

If I'm not mistaken a certain side has four bowlers averaging under 25 and one under thirty. Five bowlers averaging under 30 can't be that bad.