Mohammad Hasnain's action deemed illegal. Removed from PSL and suspended from international cricket

[MenInG]

PCB statement on Mohammad Hasnain

• Urdu version of the media release is attached

Lahore, 4 February 2022:

Pakistan Cricket Board has issued the following statement on Mohammad Hasnain after the test conducted on his bowling action at the ICC’s accredited testing centre in Lahore on 21 January and the report reviewed and verified by the CA’s independent expert found his bowling action to be illegal:

“The PCB today received a formal and detailed report from Cricket Australia on Mohammad Hasnain’s assessment test, which stated his elbow extension for his good length delivery, full length delivery, slow bouncer and bouncer exceeded the 15-degree limits.

“The PCB has discussed the report with its own bowling experts and is confident that the problem can be resolved. The PCB will now appoint a bowling consultant who will work with Mohammad Hasnain so that he can rectify his bowling action and be ready for a reassessment.

“Mohammad Hasnain is an asset for Pakistan and one of the very few bowlers to consistently click 145kmp. As such, and keeping his future and Pakistan’s interest at the forefront, the PCB, on the recommendation of the HBL PSL 2022 Technical Committee, has decided he will not be allowed to continue to participate in the HBL Pakistan Super League.

“Instead, he will use this time to work with the PCB-appointed bowling consultant to modify his bowling action so that he can apply for a reassessment and become eligible to return to international cricket as quickly as practically possible.

“As per the Illegal Bowling Action Regulations, until Mohammad Hasnain clears his reassessment, he will remain suspended from bowling in international cricket.”

Please review Clauses 4.5, 11.1 and 11.5 of the ICC Illegal Bowling Action Regulations for more information.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hmmm. No mention of the amount of flexion in his elbow.

 

[volcyz]

"his elbow extension for his good length delivery, full length delivery, slow bouncer and bouncer exceeded the 15-degree limits.
"

 

[Romali_rotti]

Well that settles that... His action just didn't look right....

 

[KyoOne]

He should privately get himself tested in somewhere else to verify LUMS reports. LUMS, despite being a professional university, does not have a biomechanics department and its faculty changes quite frequently. It is quite likely that the guy handling biomechanic equipment on the day Hasnain went there was amateur.

 

[MenInG]

KFC Big Bash League Statement: Mohammad Hasnain

Mohammad Hasnain has been suspended from bowling after being found to have an illegal bowling action.

Hasnain was reported by umpire Gerard Abood after bowling in the KFC Big Bash League match between Sydney Thunder and Adelaide Strikers at Sydney Showground Stadium on January 2.

As per the Suspected Illegal Bowling Action Procedures, Hasnain was due to be tested at Cricket Australia’s ICC-approved facility in Brisbane within the mandated 14-day timeframe and before his departure from Australia. However, after he and others were recalled early by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), it was agreed he would conduct his test at the PCB’s approved facility in Lahore, with results provided to Cricket Australia for independent review and verification. This process has been completed, with Hasnain’s action found to be illegal by the PCB’s testing laboratory and the report reviewed and verified by CA’s independent expert.

Hasnain is currently playing in the Pakistan Super League (PSL) for the Quetta Gladiators. The PCB, via the PSL Technical Committee, will confirm whether Hasnain will be permitted to continue bowling in the PSL as per ICC Regulations.

Peter Roach, Cricket Australia’s Head of Cricket Operations and Scheduling, said:

“We’d like to commend Mohammad Hasnain, the Pakistan Cricket Board, Cricket NSW and Sydney Thunder for their cooperative and respectful approach to this process – particularly given the logistical challenges around travel and testing.

“CA’s independent expert is satisfied that Mohammad replicated his bowling action in the controlled environment during testing and that the results are accurate.

“Given the collaborative nature of this process, we have full confidence the PCB will support Mohammad to rectify his action.

“We wish Mohammad the best over coming months and look forward to welcoming him back to Australia in the future.”

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Was always dodgy.. hope he comes back from this.. feel for the guy

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan fast bowler Mohammad Hasnain has been banned from bowling after biomechanical testing in Lahore confirmed his action was illegal, having first been reported during a stint with the Sydney Thunder last month.

The testing at Lahore's University of Management Sciences on January 21 revealed Hasnain breached the ICC's 15-degree limit for elbow extension on his "good length delivery, full length delivery, slow bouncer and bouncer".

The ban will rule the 21-year-old speedster who regularly tops the 145kph mark out of Pakistan's home series against Australia next month.

He has also been banned from bowling in the Pakistan Super League and will instead begin immediate remedial work on the action.

Hasnain had played the first three games of the competition taking 3-76 for the Quetta Gladiators while analysis on his action was completed.

Hasnain's bowling was reported by umpire Gerard Abood after his BBL debut with the Thunder on January 2. At the time he had already played in 70 T20 matches around the world, including 18 at international level, as well as eight ODIs.

His BBL career began with a triple-wicket maiden and Hasnain finished the game against the Adelaide Strikers with 3-20 from his four overs. Umpire Abood was at square leg for all of Hasnain's deliveries in that match.

The length of Hasnain's bowling ban remains unclear – he will have to prove under laboratory testing that the delivery types found to be illegal can be bowled within the ICC regulations to resume international or top-flight domestic cricket.

If he is found to be using an illegal action for a second time within two years, that would trigger an automatic one-year ban.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) said it would appoint a coach to being work on his action with a view to making him eligible again "as quickly as practically possible".

"The PCB has discussed the report with its own bowling experts and is confident that the problem can be resolved. The PCB will now appoint a bowling consultant who will work with Mohammad Hasnain so that he can rectify his bowling action and be ready for a reassessment," a PCB statement read.

"Hasnain is an asset for Pakistan and one of the very few bowlers to consistently click 145kph. As such, and keeping his future and Pakistan's interest at the forefront, the PCB, on the recommendation of the HBL PSL 2022 Technical Committee, has decided he will not be allowed to continue to participate in the HBL Pakistan Super League.

"Instead, he will use this time to work with the PCB-appointed bowling consultant to modify his bowling action so that he can apply for a reassessment and become eligible to return to international cricket as quickly as practically possible."

CA's regulations mandate a minimum of 90 days before a bowler can have their action re-assessed, but that applies only to CA-run domestic competitions.

The ICC regulations for bans resulting from reports in international cricket allow a bowler to apply for a formal re-assessment 'at any time'.

No detail was provided on how far beyond the 15-degree limit Hasnain was found to be, and it is unclear how much remedial work his action will require.

Hasnain made his international debut against Australia in Sharjah in March 2019 and in October that year became the youngest player ever to take a T20 international hat-trick in a match against Sri Lanka.

He would otherwise have been in contention to feature in Pakistan's three ODIs and a T20 against Aaron Finch's side in Lahore that follow the upcoming Test series.

He will also be unable to bowl in other T20 leagues around the world until cleared, with ICC members obliged to formally recognise bans imposed by other national cricket federations.

Hasnain played four more games for the Thunder after his action was reported while waiting to be tested – as is allowed under Cricket Australia's regulations – although it became widely known among players his bowling was under scrutiny.

Sydney Sixers captain Moises Henriques told Hasnain "nice throw, mate" repeatedly during a fiery Sydney derby on January 15 in what was Hasnain's final match for the Thunder in BBL|11.

In his five games with the Thunder, the 21-year-old claimed figures of 7-110 from 18.2 overs with an economy rate of 6.00 and average of 15.71.

In an unusual case complicated by the COVID-19 pandemic, Hasnain had his bowling action deemed illegal after testing in Pakistan despite being reported in Australia.

In normal circumstances a bowler must be tested an ICC-approved facility within 14 days. In Australia that facility is the National Cricket Centre in Brisbane, but Hasnain was unable to enter Queensland with the state's border shut to him.

Hasnain and other Pakistani players in the BBL were then recalled early by the PCB ahead of their own domestic T20 competition starting, so CA and the PCB agreed Hasnain would be tested at a facility in Lahore but CA would retain final say on the analysis.

That testing took place 19 days after the initial report at the Lahore University of Management Sciences – one of five ICC-accredited testing venues worldwide – and a further fortnight for the results to be delivered to CA for analysis and verification.

"CA's independent expert is satisfied that Mohammad replicated his bowling action in the controlled environment during testing and that the results are accurate," head of cricket operations Peter Roach said.

"Given the collaborative nature of this process, we have full confidence the PCB will support Mohammad to rectify his action.

"We wish Mohammad the best over coming months and look forward to welcoming him back to Australia in the future."

Cricket NSW's head of male cricket Michael Klinger said he hoped Hasnain would return to the Thunder in future.

"Hasnain was a very popular member of the Sydney Thunder and made a positive impression both on and off the field," Klinger said in a statement.

"The Thunder fully support his endeavours to clear his action and hope to see him back at the club in the future."

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/moh...an-australia-bbl-quetta-gladiators/2022-02-04

 

[Ryw]

Looks fine, I feel Pakistan cricket board just dont want to mess with Cricket Australia as they are going to tour Pakistan recently

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Cricket Australia never challenge same approach with rich cricket board, poor Hussain, astonishing career ruined by bullying.

 

[happydavy]

Quite surprising, to me it never looked like he chucked but i am no expert to figure out a 15%+- angle in real time!

 

[volcyz]

Looked super obvious he was chucking in the BBL

it's astonishing that it took this long for him to be reported.

 

[Thanos]

Looks fine, I feel Pakistan cricket board just dont want to mess with Cricket Australia as they are going to tour Pakistan recently

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Cricket Australia never challenge same approach with rich cricket board, poor Hussain, astonishing career ruined by bullying.

Lol. The test was done in Lahore.
Stop blaming others.

 

[Ryw]

Lol. The test was done in Lahore.
Stop blaming others.

I am fully aware of it that it was done in Lahore lol

 

[Titan24]

Well its settled now, you cant argue the reports though you can argue the process as nothing is standardized which gives roam to a lot of inconsistencies and irregularities. What if Hasnain would have never been called for next 3-4 years? He has been bowling in leagues and international cricket for almost 2.5-3 years now. There should be a standardized process.

For pacers the issue generally to rectify and adapt to the new rhythm is not as much as spinners (Especially the ones that bowled dosra) as per what I have observed.

Taskin Ahmed of BD was called few years ago and he was successfully able to rectify the issues and now a days is possibly bowling with better rhythm then he ever did.

Hasnain has quite a few issues that have been going on with his action for sometime, a good opportunity for him to work with the consultants and coaches to rectify them as well and hopefully come as a better bowler in few months on the other side of it.

 

[volcyz]

Well its settled now, you cant argue the reports though you can argue the process as nothing is standardized which gives roam to a lot of inconsistencies and irregularities. What if Hasnain would have never been called for next 3-4 years? He has been bowling in leagues and international cricket for almost 2.5-3 years now. There should be a standardized process.

For pacers the issue generally to rectify and adapt to the new rhythm is not as much as spinners (Especially the ones that bowled dosra) as per what I have observed.

Taskin Ahmed of BD was called few years ago and he was successfully able to rectify the issues and now a days is possibly bowling with better rhythm then he ever did.

Hasnain has quite a few issues that have been going on with his action for sometime, a good opportunity for him to work with the consultants and coaches to rectify them as well and hopefully come as a better bowler in few months on the other side of it.

Exactly, unbelievable that it has taken this long for them to spot it.

 

[redmaverik84]

I have a concern here, while he was called for chucking in the BBL which is under the Cricket Australia , the jurisdiction of the people concerned with BBL and CA should end there and ICC should take over from there. Why are there statements out from CA regarding the tests and why were the results sent to them in the first place. ICC as the ruling body should be equipped to handle this independently and just because it is the CA that called him for chucking, they shouldn't be the advisory board.

 

[redmaverik84]

While I can see him make a comeback in a month or two, it needs to be seen if he can bowl with the same speed with a modified action than one that comes naturally to him.

At the end of the day, the blame should lie at the doorsteps of the PCB and its coaches for not identifying this flaw in him and the reason for this to be identified by the CA. Do they have the correct guidelines, experience etc to identify and call chucking before it gets too late and affects the individual's career.

 

[shah_1]

While I can see him make a comeback in a month or two, it needs to be seen if he can bowl with the same speed with a modified action than one that comes naturally to him.

At the end of the day, the blame should lie at the doorsteps of the PCB and its coaches for not identifying this flaw in him and the reason for this to be identified by the CA. Do they have the correct guidelines, experience etc to identify and call chucking before it gets too late and affects the individual's career.

Taskin was banned due to illegal bowling action but came back with a modified action without effecting his speed.

 

[shah_1]

If Cricket Australia had problem with Pakistanis then Haris Rauf would have been called out as well

 

[Titan24]

Taskin was banned due to illegal bowling action but came back with a modified action without effecting his speed.

Yes and in my opinion he actually has become a better bowler potentially with the work that has gone into him. Game sense and setting up a batsman still not his forte but, his speed, flow through the crease and rhythm is better than it ever was. Bowled really well in T20I series vs Pak as well.

There were already quite a few flaws in Hasnain's action, time for him and coaches to start from the basics. Someone with his physique, height, good outswing wrist position with the new ball should have been doing better then he has done till now. Hopefully we can see a better and improved bowler on the other side of it.

 

[Mirpur express]

Watched his bowling vides from 2019/20 looks super clean with a slightly bend elbow ( prob 10% angle ) when going for Yorkers but unfortunately over the next couple of years it got worse.. & watching bbl recently it clearly looked dodgy , he’s very young & hardworking lad so I believe he’ll be back after some slight remodelling,
Good luck MH

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Luckily we have even better pacers in the country and it would not be any loss for the time being. Good luck to Hasnain so he can improve his action and come back well.

 

[volcyz]

If Cricket Australia had problem with Pakistanis then Haris Rauf would have been called out as well

Haris Raufs action looks absolutely fine

 

[Titan24]

Watched his bowling vides from 2019/20 looks super clean with a slightly bend elbow ( prob 10% angle ) when going for Yorkers but unfortunately over the next couple of years it got worse.. & watching bbl recently it clearly looked dodgy , he’s very young & hardworking lad so I believe he’ll be back after some slight remodelling,
Good luck MH ����

Good observation. As per some reports he was actually asked by coaches to work on his bowling action overtime which had few flaws (Other then elbow bending), even Ian Pont discussed it and some commies also talked about he he can improve certain aspects but, unfortunately looks like he didnt put in the hard yards at the right time.

I wont be surprised if his elbow bend formed on some deliveries is likely due to the other things wrong with his action and that bend comes in to compensate for those issues.

 

[Concerned]

Why was he was never called out before, yet it only took the umpires in BBL who were one of the worst only a few games to call him out?

 

[MenInG]

Less trolling and more proper opinions on this thread please.

If you want to have your cheapshots at Pakistan or its players, best to head elsewhere.

 

[gazza619]

Really surprised.

What was Waqar Younis doing all these years with him? Surely Waqar should have known and helped him fixed the issue.

 

[Wahid1234]

Looks fine, I feel Pakistan cricket board just dont want to mess with Cricket Australia as they are going to tour Pakistan recently

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Cricket Australia never challenge same approach with rich cricket board, poor Hussain, astonishing career ruined by bullying.

Spot on for me his action was clean Australia have destroyed many a career if he chucks they might as well bam every single bowler on earth Junaid khana action was much worse and he had a long fruitful career

 

[Rana]

Pakistan should avoid sending Rauf or Shaheen to BBL now in the future

You can’t trust these guys!

 

[Rana]

I have a feeling that if you test all currently active fast bowlers who deliver over 140k, around 30% of them would have an illegal action according to the strict 15 degree rule

 

[Concerned]

As opposed to being called out, all international bowlers should go through mandatory testing to ensure their bowling is legal.

 

[Romali_rotti]

He can easily come back, just remodel his action to a legal one and come back....

 

[Ryw]

Pakistan should avoid sending Rauf or Shaheen to BBL now in the future

You can’t trust these guys!

They have a history of banning bowlers from Srilanka Pakistan etc, "can’t play them, lets ban them" Muthaia Murali Dharan

 

[Rana]

They have a history of banning bowlers from Srilanka Pakistan etc, "can’t play them, lets ban them" Muthaia Murali Dharan

I wouldn’t want our bowlers having anything to do with them now. They are clearly vulnerable out there.

This will have to be the way forward IMO

 

[Saurav]

Still young. Maybe PCB can get him an exclusive consultant to work on his action.

 

[HitWicket]

Looks fine, I feel Pakistan cricket board just dont want to mess with Cricket Australia as they are going to tour Pakistan recently

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Cricket Australia never challenge same approach with rich cricket board, poor Hussain, astonishing career ruined by bullying.

Most of the clips in this video are completely useless because his bowling arm is obscured for 90% of the relevant time. The others are such low quality that even if you pause during most of the relevant bit of his action his arm is just a blur making them just as useless.

 

[Major]

Glad he got caught.

No need for chuckers and cheaters in the game.

Have to admire the Aussie umpire who caught him with a naked eye, while our umpires never bothered.

This is top notch umpiring, even the fans thought it was racism and had assumed that labs would clear Hasnain. Thank god test was done in Lahore, now we cant use the conspiracy against pakistan or muslims theory.

While Hasnain has been caught, this should also lead to a debate where why our umpires fail to catch chuckers. This is a waste of investment pcb did on hasnain. Whether he can remodel his action and make a comeback is debateable and often bowlers cant comeback.

 

[Major]

Pakistan should avoid sending Rauf or Shaheen to BBL now in the future

You can’t trust these guys!

?? They only reported a suspected action.

The test was done in Lahore, the report was published by Lums of Lahore.... What is their to not trust? How is australia at fault? Just because they reported?

The evidence was published by us

 

[Slim]

Shocking. His action seems super clean. The 15 degrees rule and the testing will always remain a mystery.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I feel sympathy for him.

I don't think he was a deliberate chucker like Hafeez, Ajmal and perhaps Ashwin who claimed to deliberately chuck for a while.

I hope he can come back with a modified action. It's easy to say he was a cheat and good riddance, but he is a young man trying to earn a living and nobody alerted him earlier in our career.

The fact that so many chuckers come through the system into international cricket means our local umpires and systems are considerably lacking.

He should have been caught earlier and given the time to get it right.

 

[Rana]

?? They only reported a suspected action.

The test was done in Lahore, the report was published by Lums of Lahore.... What is their to not trust? How is australia at fault? Just because they reported?

The evidence was published by us

Did anyone suspect Hasnain here on PP before this incident? Now it is apparently blatant that he is a chucker. You and I have no clue who is on Australia’s radar when it comes to reporting suspect actions. If Hasnain is a clear chucker, so is Rauf according to Australia. They can’t be trusted, and we shouldn’t give them a sniff.

I would love to see a Pakistani umpire report one of their bowlers and put him through the gruelling procedure of Testing at a biomechanics lab, only to be 1 or 2 degrees outside the 15 degree limit.

 

[Rana]

Glad he got caught.

No need for chuckers and cheaters in the game.

Have to admire the Aussie umpire who caught him with a naked eye, while our umpires never bothered.

This is top notch umpiring, even the fans thought it was racism and had assumed that labs would clear Hasnain. Thank god test was done in Lahore, now we cant use the conspiracy against pakistan or muslims theory.

While Hasnain has been caught, this should also lead to a debate where why our umpires fail to catch chuckers. This is a waste of investment pcb did on hasnain. Whether he can remodel his action and make a comeback is debateable and often bowlers cant comeback.

You are absolutely clueless.

Who else chucks the ball according to your expert view? Call him out now and let’s see if there is a witch-hunt to remove him too. You didn’t question Hasnain before but now you are disassociating him with Pakistan cricket as if they were purposely playing a blatant chucker!

 

[Rana]

The only Pakistani bowler that is safe in BBL is Shadab, unless his googly is suspect to Australian umpires

 

[IMMY69]

This is surprising.
I did say that I needed to see a side on angle of his delivery before making my mind up but from all other footages he looked like he had a clean action.
Hopefully for him he words hard and comes back stronger from this.

It's strange thiugh isn't it? Whist I have been saying that Bumrah needs to be tested as to me he has as suspect action, never did I think Hasnain had the problem...

 

[Rajdeep]

This is surprising.
I did say that I needed to see a side on angle of his delivery before making my mind up but from all other footages he looked like he had a clean action.
Hopefully for him he words hard and comes back stronger from this.

It's strange thiugh isn't it? Whist I have been saying that Bumrah needs to be tested as to me he has as suspect action, never did I think Hasnain had the problem...

Bumrah has not been called by any umpires...meaning his action is as clean as a whistle. Not sure why would you want him to get tested?

Is there any rule that for every Pak bowler ...one Indian bowler should get reported too?

First it was Ashwin when Ajmal was banned.

Now its Bumrah when Hasnanin's action is suspected.

 

[Titan24]

Glad he got caught.

No need for chuckers and cheaters in the game.

Have to admire the Aussie umpire who caught him with a naked eye, while our umpires never bothered.

This is top notch umpiring, even the fans thought it was racism and had assumed that labs would clear Hasnain. Thank god test was done in Lahore, now we cant use the conspiracy against pakistan or muslims theory.

While Hasnain has been caught, this should also lead to a debate where why our umpires fail to catch chuckers. This is a waste of investment pcb did on hasnain. Whether he can remodel his action and make a comeback is debateable and often bowlers cant comeback.

Hasnian played 4 matches in Eng, 1 in Aus, 1 in Nz, 1 in SA and 3 in Zim where ICC's elite panel umpires more often then not perform the duties along with the regular panel umpires.

Issue is with the system. What if the "brilliant" umpires of Aus also wouldn't have noticed anything? Then he would have kept on playing and everything would have been fine?

This is a big flaw in the system as there is nothing standardized in this rule. Who knows how many other bowlers around the world are carrying illegal actions but, are not being called as not every umpire is as "brilliant" as some Australian ones.

Biomechanics have proved that Hasnain's action needs work to become legal and its accepted however, this system and process with so much inconsistencies and lack of standardization leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Ryw]

Most of the clips in this video are completely useless because his bowling arm is obscured for 90% of the relevant time. The others are such low quality that even if you pause during most of the relevant bit of his action his arm is just a blur making them just as useless.

Only useless thing is your judgment, I have played watched enough Cricket to determine if bowler is chucking or not, and I have witnessed treatment of Asian bowlers from weaker Cricket boards.
M Hasnain s action is fair and rest is just plain stupidity politics egos. I would rather checked that umpire 's history how he as a person behaves racialy moraly politically? I see i believe, I have trust issues Shame on Cricket Australia

 

[IMMY69]

Bumrah has not been called by any umpires...meaning his action is as clean as a whistle. Not sure why would you want him to get tested?

Is there any rule that for every Pak bowler ...one Indian bowler should get reported too?

First it was Ashwin when Ajmal was banned.

Now its Bumrah when Hasnanin's action is suspected.

I've always maintained my view on Bumrah..
Doesn't matter if player A, B or C is called from whichever country they're from.
Not everyone is blinded by nationalism.

The reason

 

[HitWicket]

Only useless thing is your judgment, I have played watched enough Cricket to determine if bowler is chucking or not, and I have witnessed treatment of Asian bowlers from weaker Cricket boards.
M Hasnain s action is fair and rest is just plain stupidity politics egos. I would rather checked that umpire 's history how he as a person behaves racialy moraly politically? I see i believe, I have trust issues Shame on Cricket Australia

And as we all know the eyes of random people on the internet using clips that don't even show his bowling arm throughout his entire action are far better and produce more reliable results than biomechanics experts with access to top quality scientific equipment...

 

[hitthestump]

Why was he was never called out before, yet it only took the umpires in BBL who were one of the worst only a few games to call him out?

Because his coach was Waqar for a very long time and he isn't going to notice anything.

 

[Wahid1234]

This is surprising.
I did say that I needed to see a side on angle of his delivery before making my mind up but from all other footages he looked like he had a clean action.
Hopefully for him he words hard and comes back stronger from this.

It's strange thiugh isn't it? Whist I have been saying that Bumrah needs to be tested as to me he has as suspect action, never did I think Hasnain had the problem...

That’s why I’m shocked his action is clean as a whistle and they have potentially destroyed a promising fast bowlers career this is soo damaging to his confidence only way back for him now is if he starts bowling leg spin.. I don’t believe in these baseless nonsense tests carried out PCB as usual keeping Other boards happy and destroying they own bowlers

 

[Usman Chadda]

Shocking. His action seems super clean. The 15 degrees rule and the testing will always remain a mystery.

There are many other bowlers who will straight up get banned if they went through this ‘testing’. Hasnain is just unfortunate to be called for a suspect action, however he needs to now rectify it and put in the hard yards to make a come back.

 

[Barragan]

A few other bowlers might be illegal as well, but the problem is they are not going to be reported and won't be tested because they play for a stronger board!!

 

[Wahid1234]

A few other bowlers might be illegal as well, but the problem is they are not going to be reported and won't be tested because they play for a stronger board!!

Exactly the double standards here is ridiculous. I maintain hasnain action is clean as a whistle if he chucks every bowler in the world chucks and no one should be allowed to bowl fast again just bowl spin.. so frustrating to see our young fast bowlers get destroyed and penalised for having a clean action

 

[cricketjoshila]

Did anyone suspect Hasnain here on PP before this incident? Now it is apparently blatant that he is a chucker. You and I have no clue who is on Australia’s radar when it comes to reporting suspect actions. If Hasnain is a clear chucker, so is Rauf according to Australia. They can’t be trusted, and we shouldn’t give them a sniff.

I would love to see a Pakistani umpire report one of their bowlers and put him through the gruelling procedure of Testing at a biomechanics lab, only to be 1 or 2 degrees outside the 15 degree limit.

PP posters are not experts. What we think about the action of a bowler is immaterial. There are onfield umpires match refrees to call a suspect action. Experts sitting in the comm box too make their opinions known.

If a Pakistani umpire calls a bowler chucker just for the sake of it, he will have his reputation tarnished.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is surprising.
I did say that I needed to see a side on angle of his delivery before making my mind up but from all other footages he looked like he had a clean action.
Hopefully for him he words hard and comes back stronger from this.

It's strange thiugh isn't it? Whist I have been saying that Bumrah needs to be tested as to me he has as suspect action, never did I think Hasnain had the problem...

He has had a biomechanical test to review his bowling. Thats the most authentic way. Not viewing from the side one video.

Well, the umpires dont think Bumrah is chucking. No commies have said that either. Infact Damien Flemings analysis of Bumrah in Australia specifically mentioned hyper extension and hence a slingshot action.

 

[IMMY69]

He has had a biomechanical test to review his bowling. Thats the most authentic way. Not viewing from the side one video.

Well, the umpires dont think Bumrah is chucking. No commies have said that either. Infact Damien Flemings analysis of Bumrah in Australia specifically mentioned hyper extension and hence a slingshot action.

I haven't been able to find any reports or "reviews" on his bowling test. May be you can forward a link?

Hyperextension to give the illusion chucking is fine but that would be the case only if his elbow was pointing the batsman. His elbow is facing more towards mid on / mid wicket.

I will happily change my views if someone presented me the Bio Lab results.

 

[Ryw]

And as we all know the eyes of random people on the internet using clips that don't even show his bowling arm throughout his entire action are far better and produce more reliable results than biomechanics experts with access to top quality scientific equipment...

Biomechanics experts with top quality equipment will termed chucking as "hyper extenion arm" from rich cricket board players while weaker cricket boards players suffer due to this bullying. Double standards ? Australians have this kind of mentality, poor kid at the age of 22 being dragged into this, I hope his pace remain same

 

[sweep_shot]

His action didn't look illegal to me with naked eyes.

Surprised at the test result.

 

[HitWicket]

Biomechanics experts with top quality equipment will termed chucking as "hyper extenion arm" from rich cricket board players while weaker cricket boards players suffer due to this bullying. Double standards ? Australians have this kind of mentality, poor kid at the age of 22 being dragged into this, I hope his pace remain same

It's pretty clear from a still photo whether someone's arm is hyper extended when they're releasing the ball. The more relevant image would be when the arm is at shoulder height. In the case of Hasnain there's clearly a bit of a kink in his arm at that point that isn't there when he releases the ball.

 

[Gilly]

Biomechanics experts with top quality equipment will termed chucking as "hyper extenion arm" from rich cricket board players while weaker cricket boards players suffer due to this bullying. Double standards ? Australians have this kind of mentality, poor kid at the age of 22 being dragged into this, I hope his pace remain same

He was tested in Lahore and it was the PCB that banned him even though they did not have too. Can Australia make the PCB do whatever they want.

 

[princeuk]

I feel really sorry for him, he has been playing under other international umpires but they never had any issues, Abe kyun? Are the other umpires not good enough, its these aussie umpires who have grand delusion about themselves.

Husnain was probably thinking this is an opportunity of a lifetime going to australia and this is how he is treated.

 

[Rajdeep]

Exactly the double standards here is ridiculous. I maintain hasnain action is clean as a whistle if he chucks every bowler in the world chucks and no one should be allowed to bowl fast again just bowl spin.. so frustrating to see our young fast bowlers get destroyed and penalised for having a clean action

How can you say his action is 'clean as a whistle' when he just got tested in lab and results shows that his arm bend beyond acceptable degrees?

He got tested in Lahore under PCBs supervision...so there is no conspiracy behind it.

 

[silentkiller187]

Let's wait for the full review before making judgements, fact is he was tested in lahore and his action was deemed illegal. Therefore we can't criticise those who called him because they were right, if his action was clean that is a different story but it looks like it's not.

 

[Gilly]

I feel really sorry for him, he has been playing under other international umpires but they never had any issues, Abe kyun? Are the other umpires not good enough, its these aussie umpires who have grand delusion about themselves.

Husnain was probably thinking this is an opportunity of a lifetime going to australia and this is how he is treated.

So you are saying that the tests done in Lahore are false and they are wrong.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I haven't been able to find any reports or "reviews" on his bowling test. May be you can forward a link?

Hyperextension to give the illusion chucking is fine but that would be the case only if his elbow was pointing the batsman. His elbow is facing more towards mid on / mid wicket.

I will happily change my views if someone presented me the Bio Lab results.

So the pcb and CA statement regard his bowling action test reports are false?

Hyper extension can be in any position, its extension of your elbow joint beyond 180 degrees.

I think the opinion of the experts and the officials matter here, no one can be tested on the basis of online posts.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Biomechanics experts with top quality equipment will termed chucking as "hyper extenion arm" from rich cricket board players while weaker cricket boards players suffer due to this bullying. Double standards ? Australians have this kind of mentality, poor kid at the age of 22 being dragged into this, I hope his pace remain same

Any evidence of this?

 

[Mesozoic]

Why on earth are people blaming Australian umpires, BCCI and CIA for this even after the testing results (that too done at a Lahore testing center) clearly say he's a chucker? )

Instead of asking why only Pak bowlers get banned, pak fans should question themselves why it's only the PCB that allows bowlers with dubious actions slip through the system and play on the biggest stage.

 

[Mesozoic]

Anyways...

Guy is most likely under 25 so he still has ample time to remodel his action and come back. But it's going to be extremely hard to bowl those 90MPH balls consistently after this. Wish him the best.

 

[Major]

Did anyone suspect Hasnain here on PP before this incident? Now it is apparently blatant that he is a chucker. You and I have no clue who is on Australia’s radar when it comes to reporting suspect actions. If Hasnain is a clear chucker, so is Rauf according to Australia. They can’t be trusted, and we shouldn’t give them a sniff.

I would love to see a Pakistani umpire report one of their bowlers and put him through the gruelling procedure of Testing at a biomechanics lab, only to be 1 or 2 degrees outside the 15 degree limit.

what are you on about????

Do you know that Hasnain didnt get ban because of the umpire.

He got banned because of a REPORT that was MADE IN PAKISTAN..

You victim crying makes no sense at all

 

[Major]

You are absolutely clueless.

Who else chucks the ball according to your expert view? Call him out now and let’s see if there is a witch-hunt to remove him too. You didn’t question Hasnain before but now you are disassociating him with Pakistan cricket as if they were purposely playing a blatant chucker!

he is a cheater proven by data.

 

[Major]

Hasnian played 4 matches in Eng, 1 in Aus, 1 in Nz, 1 in SA and 3 in Zim where ICC's elite panel umpires more often then not perform the duties along with the regular panel umpires.

Issue is with the system. What if the "brilliant" umpires of Aus also wouldn't have noticed anything? Then he would have kept on playing and everything would have been fine?

This is a big flaw in the system as there is nothing standardized in this rule. Who knows how many other bowlers around the world are carrying illegal actions but, are not being called as not every umpire is as "brilliant" as some Australian ones.

Biomechanics have proved that Hasnain's action needs work to become legal and its accepted however, this system and process with so much inconsistencies and lack of standardization leaves a lot to be desired.

thats a big what if.

But still he got caught due to the australian system of umpiring.

Also, he would had got caught eventually at international level had he performed in a high value match

 

[Rana]

he is a cheater proven by data.

So you choose to abandon him now? My point is, why are you disassociating with him because of his ban? Did anyone point out his action is questionable in the past 2-3 years since he emerged. Stop acting like this saintly Pakistan fan who devalues the efforts of a player that has been playing honestly for his country

 

[Rana]

what are you on about????

Do you know that Hasnain didnt get ban because of the umpire.

He got banned because of a REPORT that was MADE IN PAKISTAN..

You victim crying makes no sense at all

This is libellous! What report was made in Pakistan???

 

[IMMY69]

So the pcb and CA statement regard his bowling action test reports are false?

Hyper extension can be in any position, its extension of your elbow joint beyond 180 degrees.

I think the opinion of the experts and the officials matter here, no one can be tested on the basis of online posts.

Excuse me?

I am talking about Bumrah not Hasnain.
Hasnain has work to do on his action.

 

[Rana]

Why on earth are people blaming Australian umpires, BCCI and CIA for this even after the testing results (that too done at a Lahore testing center) clearly say he's a chucker? )

Instead of asking why only Pak bowlers get banned, pak fans should question themselves why it's only the PCB that allows bowlers with dubious actions slip through the system and play on the biggest stage.

You have emerged from your coma since 152-0

 

[IMMY69]

thats a big what if.

But still he got caught due to the australian system of umpiring.

Also, he would had got caught eventually at international level had he performed in a high value match

I think you have lost the plot.
Read Titan24's post again. There is no What IF

He made a very sensible post

 

[Major]

I think you have lost the plot.
Read Titan24's post again. There is no What IF

He made a very sensible post

Those are assumptions. Hasnain didnt even get caught after playing 100 international games. He got caught immediately by a foreign umpire.

At international level, had he played a high value game, he would had been reported. Pakistan vs West indies type games dont really have that much attention to them

 

[IMMY69]

he is a cheater proven by data.

So you are also calling Hasnain a cheater now?
I don't think anyone in the cricketing works thinks he's a cheater. You should be careful what you say

 

[Major]

So you choose to abandon him now? My point is, why are you disassociating with him because of his ban? Did anyone point out his action is questionable in the past 2-3 years since he emerged. Stop acting like this saintly Pakistan fan who devalues the efforts of a player that has been playing honestly for his country

Because he is a cheater proven by data. It is what it is, whether you like it or not. Chucking is cheating.

When he has a legal action I will support him than.