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Hmm,
below is the link of the zainab rape case
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ainab-executed-in-Lahore-jail-Update-Post-379
let me qoute your post from the thred
And this was just the first page.
How long PML-N ruled Punjab or you were expecting PTI to come in and fix decades of malaise in two years.
No matter how much you cry corrupt parties won't allowed to be returned and your all expense trips to Canada are a thing of the past.![]()
dont change the topic now.
Your post was about why posters are politizing the topic when you have done the same in the past. Yet here you come to give lectures to others.
You cant stop from personal attacking posters even after being told many times can you![]()
An FYI they have not been arrested yet according to Twitter. Just identified
Yes Punjab police seems to be saving them they went for raids multiple times and they escaped.... Can't happen without collusion
Yes Punjab police seems to be saving them they went for raids multiple times and they escaped.... Can't happen without collusion
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The woman had encircled one person earlier on and sent the image back, she was obviously not 100 per cent sure. The persons identified today were not done by the woman. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/moterwayincident?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#moterwayincident</a></p>— Fe'reeha@ abbtakk (@Fereeha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fereeha/status/1304797468622811136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
However the culprits have been identified through DNA matching which is more credible than circling a photo
The guy had a daughter? Wow. Just wow. Like wow. This guy never had any concious? No empathy.
But im not surprise to be honest. The pakistani awaam is like that. They hide their wives and daughters while preying and staring at women in publix
Both identified, photos have been released by the government. Rs2.5 million has been set as bounty on them.
Saving his own back now
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The father of the rapist requested the police to hang him immediately after arrest.<br><br>I don't want him to be alive for a single second<br><br>His father said.</p>— Rao Jee (@raoo512) <a href="https://twitter.com/raoo512/status/1304804474825908227?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The guy had a daughter? Wow. Just wow. Like wow. This guy never had any concious? No empathy.
But im not surprise to be honest. The pakistani awaam is like that. They hide their wives and daughters while preying and staring at women in publix
Naya Pakistan, tabdeeli, police reforms.
This is the real face of PTI incompetence. We were told that team selection is Kaptaan’s speciality.
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As you always desperate to turn every tragedy into a PTI failure So loser tell us why these guys that are on the run not prosecuted for previous gang tapes. "Abid Ali had seven criminal cases registered against him between 2013 and 2017, including two of gang-rapes, while two robbery cases were lodged against Hassan. Whose failure led to this? Is this the system you are so desperate to protect? [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
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The fact that he had gone scout free many times could lead to evidence that either he has links with police or links with someone in PMLN govt. Even if the police didnt take him series the govt is responsible as they are the ones that make sure police does its work.
Even the fact that this low level criminal is running away and making the police chase him shows that someone from the police is involved in leaking info to him. Could be a cousin or a friend.
But again, current govt is to be blamed for not finishing corruption in Punjab police and the failiure of reforming the police. Forget reforms, making sure that you have proper coordination between police force and the fact that sensitive areas like ring road should have patrolling doesnt take you two years.
This rape happened, the next day they started 24/7 patrolling on Ring Road. Point being it doesn't take 2 years for the govt and its institutions to do their basic job.
Even right now i dont understand why fake news is being spread. When the crime happened on ringroad yet it is being reported as motorway. Seems like they are trying to shift the blame on motorway police and save the heads of Lahore police. Because motorway probably doesn't fall under the Lahore city police. Ringroad does fall under.
This is a horrendous crime and by all reports the guys have been involved in such heinous crimes before and have not been prosecuted, So when SS and the dadoo charger come out blame the govt, the corrupt media need to ask these crooks as to why they were free to commit these crimes and remember these are just the crimes, who know what they have being doing.
I agree the Police in Punjab is not fit for purpose and when the quack sack said you have to sack all of them, he was right. You can't reform an institution setup to serve a family business, I like the CCPO but at the moment he hasn't shown any results. The irony of the Nooras wanting the Police reforms isn't lost anyone.
you know, even raymond davies case was avoidable. I read on him and the guys who tried to rob him that day had previous cases but the funny thing was those cases never made it to court.
It makes you realize, due to the negligence of Punjab police how many majors crimes take place. How much bad attention that Pakistan gets is due to Punjab Police.
A suspect in the motorway gang rape case surrendered before the Lahore Police on Sunday and claimed that he was not involved in the highway incident, Geo News reported.
Waqarul Hassan was among the two suspects identified by the Punjab government on Saturday for their involvement in the heinous crime which has angered the whole nation and prompted countrywide protests.
https://www.geo.tv/latest/307658-motorway-gang-rape-suspect-surrenders-before-lahore-police
Rape co-suspect courts arrest, seeks DNA test
LAHORE: Surrendering himself to the police on Sunday, one of the suspects the authorities believed was involved in the motorway gang-rape case refuted his involvement or any association with the prime suspect.
Waqarul Hassan approached the Model Town Crime Investigation Agency (CIA) Deputy Superintendent of Police Hasnain Haider and courted arrest while claiming his innocence with a request for his DNA test to corroborate his claim.
On Wednesday night, two robbers on the Lahore-Sialkot motorway had gang-raped a mother of two in an area falling within the Gujjarpura police jurisdiction.
Inspector General of Police Inam Ghani while addressing a high-profile press conference on Saturday had disclosed the identity of the two suspected rapists as Abid Ali from the Fort Abbas area of Bahawalnagar and Waqarul Hassan of Qila Sattar Shah from Sheikhupura district. Their photos were made public along with the announcement of Rs2.5 million reward money for information leading to their capture.
Abid Ali is still at large and police teams are conducting raids to apprehend him.
Father of six, Waqar told the police that he was a motorcycle mechanic and had to visit Lahore frequently to buy spare parts. Police sources said the suspect claimed that he had nothing to do with the gang-rape and Abid’s other criminal activities. The suspect also claimed that his brother-in-law, Abbas, who was using his mobile phone SIM, had some links with the main accused. He believed his brother-in-law would also surrender himself to police.
Police sources said Waqar was taken into custody for further investigation and his DNA test would be conducted soon.
Lahore DIG Investigation Shahzada Sultan and SSP Investigation Zeeshan Asghar were not available for comment.
A spokesperson for the Sheikhupura police told Geo TV they did not have any past criminal record of Waqarul Hassan.
IGP Ghani had told the presser that both the suspects were identified after police conducted geo-fencing of the entire area and collected fingerprints and DNA samples. The police chief said the DNA database had led to identification of the suspect Abid, as he was previously involved in another rape case, while geo-fencing of the area indicated that Waqar had accompanied him.
He said police had gathered Abid’s criminal record and learnt that four mobile phone SIMs were registered in his name that he had used in the past, but all those SIMs were currently inactive. He said another phone number was tracked leading the police to conclude that Waqar was Abid’s accomplice.
However, Waqar’s elder brother Shabbir told Geo TV that his brother was not involved in any crime. He said a large police contingent had conducted raids on their house on Saturday afternoon and drove away with their elder brother, Tanvir Hussain, and his son. He claimed Waqar was not home when the police raided as he had gone to a nearby area.
Waqar courted arrest after their family members suffered torture by police, Shabbir alleged.
While replying to a query about Abid, Shabbir said they did not know Abid. He said Waqar’s brother-in-law Abbas was using a SIM registered in his name, but they were unaware whether he had any contact with Abid or not.
LAHORE: Holding the “incapable” Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) government responsible for the motorway gang-rape, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) on Sunday called for the rulers to step down.
The PML-N also demanded the shifting of the party’s provincial leader Hamza Shahbaz, who is suffering from coronavirus, from jail to some hospital for better treatment.
“The rulers must go home on the issue of gang-rape, while the Lahore CCPO (capital city police officer) should be replaced for his unbecoming remarks about the rape victim,” PML-N general secretary Ahsan Iqbal said at a press conference. Information secretary Marriyum Aurangzeb was also present.
“[Punjab Chief Minister] Usman Buzdar is a novice as [Prime Minister] Imran Khan. They lack the ability to take the culprit to task and give exemplary punishment,” Mr Iqbal said, adding that they should understand that they’re incapable of running the country.
Lahore Capital City Police Officer (CCPO) Umer Sheikh on Monday apologised to the motorway gang-rape victim for his earlier remarks implying that she shared responsibility for her rape.
Last week, two ‘robbers’ allegedly gang-raped a woman at gunpoint in front of her children in Lahore's Gujjarpura area after she was stranded on the Lahore-Sialkot motorway.
Following the incident, the CCPO invited criticism when he pontificated that the victim had failed to take due precautions before setting off for her journey.
According to the Lahore police chief’s logic, the woman could have avoided being at the wrong place at the wrong time. He said she should have taken the more populated GT Road to Gujranwala instead of going via motorway, and that she ought to have checked how much fuel her car had before setting off.
Speaking to reporters today, the CCPO said that he had "apologised earlier as well".
"I did not mean anything wrong or [to give a wrong] perception and if any misunderstanding was caused because of me, then I apologise from the depths of my heart to my sister who was abused and to all sections of society who were saddened or angered."
https://www.dawn.com/news/1579650/l...for-remarks-blaming-motorway-gang-rape-victim
The same party who gunned down pregnant women and 14 people in open daylight.
Absolutely pathetic that the victim begged the press not to release her name. But not only her FIR copy was released but her name along with it.
Again, this is very weird.
THe guy who was near the rape place was Waqar ul hasan based on geo fencing. Or maybe his brother in law.
But than how do these guys know Abid and Shafqat?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The resistance appear more interested in getting rid of CCOP and somehow pin the blame on Imran Khan, rather than ensuring justice for the rape victim & improving police system. They also conveniently forget that the Punjab police is Shahbaz Sharif’s gift for ruling over a decade</p>— Javed Hassan (@javedhassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/javedhassan/status/1305095416732680192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Resistance = patwaris and jiyalas
I don't agree with CCOP staying on, this case got massive publicity and even then he was making stupid statements. Imagine if it was a poor villager who was raped, could such a person be trusted to solve the crime? The only reason why the police is so hyper right now is because of the massive media spotlight. If he is good against PMLN, I'd let him work against them and then dismiss his sorry ****.
And you know I am not a patwari or a jiyala at all. You're however completely right that the Punjab Police system is 100% the gift of PMLN. My family has first hand experience, pretty bad, more than once with Lahore and Sheikhpura police.
Yes I also believe he should have been fired. Comes across as an uneducated jahil ganwaar, typical police officer. Can't have such a guy as the head of the police force in a city like Lahore. You need a competent and educated guy.
However, some people are acting as if CCPO is an accomplice to the crime.
Abid they matched through DNA and Waqar they had determined through geo fencing and phone calls to Abid.
Yesterday Waqar turned himself in and said he had two sims in his name one used by father in law and other used by brother in law.
Shafqat seems to be his brother in law if I'm not mistaken. They ran DNA tests and Shafqat is a match with the evidence collected at the crime scene.
Brilliant step imo. To hell with human rights for rapists.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">حکومت کا جنسی زیادتی کے مجرموں کو نامرد بنانے کا قانون لانے کا فیصلہ<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ARYNewsUrdu?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ARYNewsUrdu</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/motorwayincident?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#motorwayincident</a><a href="https://t.co/NXd7zYSs9F">https://t.co/NXd7zYSs9F</a></p>— ARY News Urdu (@arynewsud) <a href="https://twitter.com/arynewsud/status/1305487993650786304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'm sorry what does it say ?
My problem with the capital punishment, castration (as good as it sounds) is that what if there is a case where a woman wrongly or nefariously accuses a guy of rape? Have we not seen instances of cases in the world where women have falsely accused a guy of harassment and rape?
No woman in Pakistan is stupid enough to do that when in our country rape victims are shamed, disowned and abused and rape is seen as humiliation. 99.99999 percent of the women would never admit they are raped in Pakistan, never mind falsely taking it up. Even the woman in this case is v educated and her first words to the police were to leave them alone and not mention it to anyone.
In Pakistan capital punishment should not be allowed for the reasons I posted above.
You mentioned three women who had some power. And even the accused in those cases are v powerful men who would never be put to death. And in all your cases it's more or less proven the women lied and noone, not the public or the court believed them. So not sure what your point is?Not sure, we have already witnessed Ayesha Gullalai against Imran Khan. What about that honey trap by that woman against the NAB Chairman where she fearlessly put that video up on social media and where she fearlessly told the entire world she was leading him on in her attempt to trap him? Meesha Shafi has not been able to back up her allegations against Ali Zafar and even her closest friends, eye witnesses at the studio have not backed her statements and people who know her do not necessarily have nice things to say about her.
Ayaan Ali fearlessly went around Pakistani Society, had that custom inspector killed and fearlessly left the country knowing full well she had Zardari behind her back. Women with connections and power can just about do anything in the country just like men with connections and power.
Well said. In the West false accusations are common a lot of times because of monetary gain. In Pakistan for a woman to just have rumoured to be raped is a massive stigma in terms of respect, rishtas and everything in her life. No woman in Pakistan would be stupid enough to falsely claim it unless she's powerful.Days of falsely accusing someone are a thing of the past. Now DNA matching has pretty much made it fool proof that the correct person will be caught. Take this case for example police could have said Waqar is one of the rapist and just focus on finding Abid and case closed, but Waqar's DNA didn't match and they had to go out seek and arrest Shafqat.
Also in Pakistani context women falsely accusing a person of rape is completely unheard of, behind there are other proof of a rape as well such as scratch marks and bruises during struggle which won't exist in a false rape accusation.
Bottom line, rapists deserve castration and/or hanging.
Days of falsely accusing someone are a thing of the past. Now DNA matching has pretty much made it fool proof that the correct person will be caught. Take this case for example police could have said Waqar is one of the rapist and just focus on finding Abid and case closed, but Waqar's DNA didn't match and they had to go out seek and arrest Shafqat.
Also in Pakistani context women falsely accusing a person of rape is completely unheard of, behind there are other proof of a rape as well such as scratch marks and bruises during struggle which won't exist in a false rape accusation.
Bottom line, rapists deserve castration and/or hanging.
I know that right now everyone is in Mob justice mood but i am still going to voice an unpopular view which people would lynch me for, but these rapes have been occurring in Pakistan for the last 20-30-40 years, why is there so much outrage now? How long will this anger and fiery last for? 2-3 weeks?