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Mustafizur Rahman vs Mohammad Amir

Bump. What's the verdict now? I feel the Fizz is a better ODI bowler than Aamir while Aamir is better in tests. The stats over the last 2 years certainly back that conclusion :)
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Bump. What's the verdict now? I feel the Fizz is a better ODI bowler than Aamir while Aamir is better in tests. The stats over the last 2 years certainly back that conclusion :)
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Mustafizur is no world beater but he's done better than Amir in the last 2 years. But amir has been more economical.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Bump. What's the verdict now? I feel the Fizz is a better ODI bowler than Aamir while Aamir is better in tests. The stats over the last 2 years certainly back that conclusion :)
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There is no comparison between them in Test format. Mustafizur isn't a Test bowler, whereas Amir averages 23 with the ball in last 2/3 years since fielders started taking catches off his bowling.

Mohammad Amir is also one of the best, if not the best T20I bowler currently and this is Fizz's best format, still he is inferior to Amir.

In ODIs, any bowler can be judged better now when Amir is going through horrible wicket taking form, but still is one of the most economical bowler currently and I don't think Mustafizur has ever performed against Top teams since his debut series. We all saw him in CT.

Overall, Amir has much better skillset and Mustafizur has only cutters to work with, which can only be useful in slow low bounce surfaces. To conclude, Mohammad Amir is much better than Fizz.
 
Amir's ODI selection mostly depends on this England series, if he fails then I dont see him getting selected in the ODI for many years to come.

Mustafiz has fared better than in the ODI format, but Amir is better in the T20I format.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Bump. What's the verdict now? I feel the Fizz is a better ODI bowler than Aamir while Aamir is better in tests. The stats over the last 2 years certainly back that conclusion :)
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To be completely honest, there was never a competition between these two. Fizz is leagues ahead and that's a fact.

I m not being disrespectful here but amir is nothing but hype. Apart from England and few other places amir has always been taken to the cleaners almost everywhere.

Fizz on the other hand is once in a generation type of talent. The only thing that's holding him is his injury. If fizz had managed to remain fully fit, he would've been the best odi bowler by now.
 
RainMan_ said:
To be completely honest, there was never a competition between these two. Fizz is leagues ahead and that's a fact.

I m not being disrespectful here but amir is nothing but hype. Apart from England and few other places amir has always been taken to the cleaners almost everywhere.

Fizz on the other hand is once in a generation type of talent. The only thing that's holding him is his injury. If fizz had managed to remain fully fit, he would've been the best odi bowler by now.
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You've clearly not watched Amir's matches. He may not have taken wickets that all were expecting. But he's certainly not taken to cleaners almost all times.

And I disagree that Fizz is leagues ahead. Maybe a step ahead in ODIs.
 
RainMan_ said:
To be completely honest, there was never a competition between these two. Fizz is leagues ahead and that's a fact.

I m not being disrespectful here but amir is nothing but hype. Apart from England and few other places amir has always been taken to the cleaners almost everywhere.

Fizz on the other hand is once in a generation type of talent. The only thing that's holding him is his injury. If fizz had managed to remain fully fit, he would've been the best odi bowler by now.
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:misbah :uakmal :vk2 :msd

Leagues above?? Once in a generation?
 
RainMan_ said:
To be completely honest, there was never a competition between these two. Fizz is leagues ahead and that's a fact.

I m not being disrespectful here but amir is nothing but hype. Apart from England and few other places amir has always been taken to the cleaners almost everywhere.

Fizz on the other hand is once in a generation type of talent. The only thing that's holding him is his injury. If fizz had managed to remain fully fit, he would've been the best odi bowler by now.
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Yeah the best bowler by playing teams like afg, zim and Ireland. The guy averages 170+ in Nz and averages very high in the SENA countries. So lol at him being the best bowler if he was fit.
 
Amir was, is and will continue to be a far superior bowler to the Fizz despite recent records. A bowler who solely relies on cutters is not a fast bowler in my book.
 
RainMan_ said:
To be completely honest, there was never a competition between these two. Fizz is leagues ahead and that's a fact.

I m not being disrespectful here but amir is nothing but hype. Apart from England and few other places amir has always been taken to the cleaners almost everywhere.

Fizz on the other hand is once in a generation type of talent. The only thing that's holding him is his injury. If fizz had managed to remain fully fit, he would've been the best odi bowler by now.
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Well said brother RainMan . Fizz helped BD make it to Asia Cup final. Aamir couldn't even get into Pakistan's bowling lineup that day. Shows the difference in class in ODI's. Tests Aamir is ahead though.
 
RainMan_ said:
To be completely honest, there was never a competition between these two. Fizz is leagues ahead and that's a fact.

I m not being disrespectful here but amir is nothing but hype. Apart from England and few other places amir has always been taken to the cleaners almost everywhere.

Fizz on the other hand is once in a generation type of talent. The only thing that's holding him is his injury. If fizz had managed to remain fully fit, he would've been the best odi bowler by now.
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I agree. It's due to extraordinary talents like himself and Sabbir Rahman(the next Kohli) that Bangladesh is THE best team in Asia, and hot favourites for this World Cup, the T20 World Cup next year, and even the Test Championship.
 
Aamir is a legend in England and Mustafiz in Bangladesh. Both have not done anything of note outside these two countries. I will go with Aamir because in his worst, he is still economical.
 
Both on to decent start in this WC.

Watcing Mustafizur-Rahman today, very skillful bowler.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Aamir is a legend in England and Mustafiz in Bangladesh. Both have not done anything of note outside these two countries. I will go with Aamir because in his worst, he is still economical.
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Fizz just won his side a match in the world cup. So he does well in England. Fizz was also the best bowler in Asia cup.

Fizz has the best strike rate among all bowlers in the world since his debut - 22.

He has the 2nd lowest ER in the death after bumrah
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Bump. What's the verdict now? I feel the Fizz is a better ODI bowler than Aamir while Aamir is better in tests. The stats over the last 2 years certainly back that conclusion :)
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RainMan_ said:
To be completely honest, there was never a competition between these two. Fizz is leagues ahead and that's a fact.

I m not being disrespectful here but amir is nothing but hype. Apart from England and few other places amir has always been taken to the cleaners almost everywhere.

Fizz on the other hand is once in a generation type of talent. The only thing that's holding him is his injury. If fizz had managed to remain fully fit, he would've been the best odi bowler by now.
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[MENTION=146500]RainMan_[/MENTION] your fizz is getting smashed. While Amir is the leading wicket taker of this WC so far.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
[MENTION=146500]RainMan_[/MENTION] your fizz is getting smashed. While Amir is the leading wicket taker of this WC so far.
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You wasn’t him to bump another thread here where few posts made it quite spicy - who will reach 100 wickets first - Hasan Ali or Mustafiz?

Don’t bump threads that fits your bill only - it’ll be uncomfortable afterwards.
 
MMHS said:
You wasn’t him to bump another thread here where few posts made it quite spicy - who will reach 100 wickets first - Hasan Ali or Mustafiz?

Don’t bump threads that fits your bill only - it’ll be uncomfortable afterwards.
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The comparison is between Amir and Mustafizur. Where did Hasan Ali come into this?
"Don't bump threads that fit your bill only" :)))

Check how many times the bd vs pak thread has been bumped. It literally got bumped up when you beat wi and now after his thrashing from the Aussies you just got, I'll be the one bumping it up again.
 
MMHS said:
You wasn’t him to bump another thread here where few posts made it quite spicy - who will reach 100 wickets first - Hasan Ali or Mustafiz?

Don’t bump threads that fits your bill only - it’ll be uncomfortable afterwards.
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Pretty sure Hasan Ali would reach 100 wickets faster if he plays Zim, Wi, Ireland 15 matches out of his next 20. Sadly only your fizz has that perk.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Pretty sure Hasan Ali would reach 100 wickets faster if he plays Zim, Wi, Ireland 15 matches out of his next 20. Sadly only your fizz has that perk.
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Have you checked the data? If not, do it first.
 
MMHS said:
Have you checked the data? If not, do it first.
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Have you checked the CWC19 leading wicket takers? If not, do it first

Have you compared Amir's cwc average and wickets with Mustafizur??? If not, do it first.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Pretty sure Hasan Ali would reach 100 wickets faster if he plays Zim, Wi, Ireland 15 matches out of his next 20. Sadly only your fizz has that perk.
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Didn't Pakistan just play like 20 matches against Zim, Scotland and Ireland last year? :amir
 
ak619 said:
From 2016 to 2018 Pakistan played 22 matches against ZIM (7), WI (6), SRL (5) IRE (2), AFG (1) and HONG KONG (1).

:amir
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Read your OP then reply. 2018. We didn't play 20 matches against those teams in 2018.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Read your OP then reply. 2018. We didn't play 20 matches against those teams in 2018.
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Did you take that seriously? Lol. Obviously not 20 matches. That's just a figure of speech.

Point is, like Bangladesh, Pakistan has more than its fair share of minnow games.

So you can't put down Fizz's wickets to minnowbashing when the avg of Pakistan batsmen falls by 30-40 runs when we exclude performances from minnows.
 
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Ronaldo7 said:
Have you checked the CWC19 leading wicket takers? If not, do it first

Have you compared Amir's cwc average and wickets with Mustafizur??? If not, do it first.
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You know, what’s your problem? You live in instant gratification, which is random blogger’s life. Lousy mouth with ignorance is a deadly combination - that’s why after cursing him for a year now you are trying to sell Amir, to someone shouting for two years that he should be the Captain.....

Learn cricket - first step of that is not to bump random threads here & there.
 
MMHS said:
You know, what’s your problem? You live in instant gratification, which is random blogger’s life. Lousy mouth with ignorance is a deadly combination - that’s why after cursing him for a year now you are trying to sell Amir, to someone shouting for two years that he should be the Captain.....

Learn cricket - first step of that is not to bump random threads here & there.
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Random thread?
No one asked you mate. I can bump up any thread I want. It's none of your business.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
The comparison is between Amir and Mustafizur. Where did Hasan Ali come into this?
"Don't bump threads that fit your bill only" :)))

Check how many times the bd vs pak thread has been bumped. It literally got bumped up when you beat wi and now after his thrashing from the Aussies you just got, I'll be the one bumping it up again.
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Good bump bro

It seems fizz cutter are not that effective outside asia .Amir with massive decline still have rises to big occasion
 
ak619 said:
Did you take that seriously? Lol. Obviously not 20 matches. That's just a figure of speech.

Point is, like Bangladesh, Pakistan has more than its fair share of minnow games.

So you can't put down Fizz's wickets to minnowbashing when the avg of Pakistan batsmen falls by 30-40 runs when we exclude performances from minnows.
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What have pakistan batsmen do with fizz vs amir thread ?Comparing batsmen with bowler doesn't make sense i can only laugh at your logic
 
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Comparing Mustafizur, who says he got into fast-bowling because of Amir is funny. I mean he's a good bowler but on non-Asian pitches he is only useful at the death. But then there are far more outrageous threads here.
 
saeed5646 said:
What have pakistan batsmen do with fizz vs amir thread ?Comparing batsmen with bowler doesn't make sense i can only laugh at your logic
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Ronaldo7 said:
Pretty sure Hasan Ali would reach 100 wickets faster if he plays Zim, Wi, Ireland 15 matches out of his next 20. Sadly only your fizz has that perk.
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[MENTION=149383]Ronaldo7[/MENTION] was trying to say that Fizz will get 100 wickets before Hasan because BAN plays minnows all the time.

I just pointed out the fact that Pakistan also plays minnows all the time. 22 games against SRL, WI, ZIM, IRE, etc in 2 years.

So whatever applies to Fizz also applies to Hasan.
 
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In English conditions Amir is better than many top bowler even someone like Rabada in terms of economy. If the ball they used were duke, guys like Amir, Bhuvi would have run through sides with new ball.
 
Sorry guys,

There is no competition. Fizz belongs to a different league.

Amir got his first 5 wicket haul after playing for more than half a decade while fizz takes 5 wickets as if it's his everyday job.
 
In English conditions Amir was always better.

Somehow Amir can't perform anywhere else in the world. Wonder why?

Heartening to see Fizz deliver in this world cup. Wished he had more support.
 
Executioner said:
In English conditions Amir was always better.

Somehow Amir can't perform anywhere else in the world. Wonder why?

Heartening to see Fizz deliver in this world cup. Wished he had more support.
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Wow I really thought Fizz was going to be a star bowler for you guys in 2016 after he made his phenomenal debut season. I haven't followed him much since 2016 so I am going off stats here he seems to have done really well in ODI's and T20I's but is there a reason for him not being talked about as much? Also how come he hasn't been able to do well in Tests? Again I haven't followed much Bangladesh Cricket and Pakistan hasn't played Bangladesh in a series in like 4 years so I'm just trying to figure out why Mustafizur hasn't been able to deliver in Tests.
 
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