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Ans the question Kaptain kid... Stop running away...

Your question has nothing to do with the topic, you keep running your mouth off about Najim Sethi, but when I agree to take on board his views regarding the topic you can't provide any. So why was his name mentioned in the first place. Now answer the question and stop running away.
 
Your question has nothing to do with the topic, you keep running your mouth off about Najim Sethi, but when I agree to take on board his views regarding the topic you can't provide any. So why was his name mentioned in the first place. Now answer the question and stop running away.

Ans the question Kaptain kid, how many years have you lived in Pakistan ?








Waiting for the next round of excuses....
 
Add Japan as well.And singapore.

Pakistanis who live in Pakistan are more switched on than these try hards who barely lived in Pakistan......... Fricken laughable the reasoning's they come up with, special mentions; Kaptain kid's runaway tactics............
 
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Pakistanis who live in Pakistan are more switched on than these try hards who barely lived in Pakistan......... Fricken laughable the reasoning's they come up with, special mentions; Kaptain kid's runaway tactics............

yes your right I was surprised at all of the Modi posters in Blue area during my very recent visit!
 
Indian cyber army in full swing here. Deflecting and derailing at every turn in an attempt to avoid discussing the issues raised by one of their own journalists.
 
On 25 August, Pakistani soldiers launched a covert operation across the ceasefire line, established in 1949 after the first Indo-Pakistani war, into Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir.

This is from the article you quoted.Your country broke ceasefire and started a war.Once you have started a war you expect your enemy to fight the war according your convenience.

again can you tell me the difference between the international border and a disputed "ceasefire line"? It was and has always been disputed territory hence why its called the line of control not an international border. Therefore Pakistan merely intervened to protect the people of kashmir of Indian atrocities that carry on to this day.

Again you tell me abut breaking a ceasefire and starting a war.Pakistan has no right to interfere inside the territory of another country in 1948.

Dogar was given the "sovereign state" by the invading British against the will of the kashmiri people who wanted to join their Muslim brethren in the new sovereign state of Pakistan. And if it you say it was a sovereign state then India invaded a sovereign state either way. Kalat was a state too, so was

Who is this Dogar?

1.Pakistan and India both agreed to the terms of Indian Independence act which gave the Maharaja his sovereign state.So Pakistan broke the agreement when it intervened in Kashmir.

2.India didnt invade Kashmir.Indian Army went there at the request of the Maharaja of Kashmir and after he aceded to India.
Please highlight where it says Pakistan invaded India...I suggest you go and demand your hinduvta history books be returned to there less biased versions...

Give that suggestion to your Army propganda honchos.
 
, even the US will overlook his transgressions. I mean he only killed a few Muslims who are lower than a Mumbai dog in india right?

This was a given buddy, US kills (Drones) muslims in your own country with the permission from your government, so you think they care if a few muslims die in India ? Killing muslims is something US has become an expert in doing over the years... But hey they are still your ally so cant ask for anything better..
 
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Modi was visiting Japan/Singapore/China when he was Gujurat CM.Years before he became PM.
 
Another thread with mudslinging from both sides. On topic though I think a lot of people are overrating the importance of Pakistan for the average aam aadmi here.

It is true that Pakistan topic is brought up whenever political parties want to score a few points or to deflect attention from other issues.

Modi having a hard-line policy towards Pakistan is neither seen favourably nor is it seen negatively. Most people simply couldn't care less. May not be the right attitude when you want to build bridges but I suppose no one really wants.

As long as his domestic policies are good and foreign relations with other nations are improving, it doesn't matter what he does as far as Pakistan is concerned.
 
Another thread with mudslinging from both sides. On topic though I think a lot of people are overrating the importance of Pakistan for the average aam aadmi here.

It is true that Pakistan topic is brought up whenever political parties want to score a few points or to deflect attention from other issues.

Modi having a hard-line policy towards Pakistan is neither seen favourably nor is it seen negatively. Most people simply couldn't care less. May not be the right attitude when you want to build bridges but I suppose no one really wants.

As long as his domestic policies are good and foreign relations with other nations are improving, it doesn't matter what he does as far as Pakistan is concerned.

all the more concerning then that he is allowed to run roughshod and rip up the agreed "rules" or understanding developed between the two govts over the last 5-6 years..
 
luckily we dont like stale rotis..

lol come on buddy come up with something better.. So you saying you prefer China who loves an alleged muslim murderer over stale rottis ? Now do you see why Pakistan is in the mess it is in now ..................
 
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Jack Nicholson once famously said , 'Modi he makes me want to be a better man.
 
This is from the article you quoted.Your country broke ceasefire and started a war.Once you have started a war you expect your enemy to fight the war according your convenience.



Again you tell me abut breaking a ceasefire and starting a war.Pakistan has no right to interfere inside the territory of another country in 1948.



Who is this Dogar?

1.Pakistan and India both agreed to the terms of Indian Independence act which gave the Maharaja his sovereign state.So Pakistan broke the agreement when it intervened in Kashmir.

2.India didnt invade Kashmir.Indian Army went there at the request of the Maharaja of Kashmir and after he aceded to India.


Give that suggestion to your Army propganda honchos.

lol, meray bachay main kya ub kohoan tumhay? mnnh? there wa sa reason it was a "covert" operation so as to avoid a war. Hence why it was covert. It also had deniability attached to it but yes we kinda messed that one up. It did not require a Indian response across the international border as the op had already failed and was a misadventure. Also by its very nature it was a limited op with a limited scope. Hence not an invasion by any definition. For example would the IDF's covert ops against Syria be seen as an invasion? or the US's covert ops in iran? and lebanon? nope. But engaging every single pakistani force along the international border and trying to "drink sharaab at the lahore gymkhana by sun down" is an Invasion. by any definition!
 
lol come on buddy come up with something better.. So you saying you prefer China who loves an alleged muslim murderer over stale rottis ? Now do you see why Pakistan is in the mess it is in now ..................

yes thanks for enlightening me..The greate Indian roti wala has enlightened me..mehrbani.

but getting serious i explained China's stance. We dont agree with it but we understand it because it is the same for everyone. Muslim murderers, hindu murderers. western murderers, the chinese speak to everyone. So we know where we stand with them.

But its amusing to us that India loves Modi so much. It just highlights your nations hypocrisy. Quite revealing actually.
 
But its amusing to us that India loves Modi so much. It just highlights your nations hypocrisy. Quite revealing actually.

GK,

Arguing aside, you need to realize that India chose Modi because Kongress were nothing but frauds who were destroying the country. I mean had Kongress won again, people like Rahul Gandoo who could not run a brothel let alone a country would have the say in how the country is run, so of course we are going to chose Modi as he is the better leader to run 'India'. You need to stop being obsessed with citizens of another country, Indian muslims are India's issue not yours, you should be focusing on your citizens, your voiceless minorities who badly need your help.
 
GK,

Arguing aside, you need to realize that India chose Modi because Kongress were nothing but frauds who were destroying the country. I mean had Kongress won again, people like Rahul Gandoo who could not run a brothel let alone a country would have the say in how the country is run, so of course we are going to chose Modi as he is the better leader to run 'India'. You need to stop being obsessed with citizens of another country, Indian muslims are India's issue not yours, you should be focusing on your citizens, your voiceless minorities who badly need your help.

Let us do a deal then, you and your compatriots leave the PakPassion boards to discuss your internal issues on an Indian forum and we will concentrate on our citizens. Please notify me of your final post so I can bid you a pleasant farewell. :wave
 
GK,

Arguing aside, you need to realize that India chose Modi because Kongress were nothing but frauds who were destroying the country. I mean had Kongress won again, people like Rahul Gandoo who could not run a brothel let alone a country would have the say in how the country is run, so of course we are going to chose Modi as he is the better leader to run 'India'. You need to stop being obsessed with citizens of another country, Indian muslims are India's issue not yours, you should be focusing on your citizens, your voiceless minorities who badly need your help.

So please do us a favour and stop posting on OUR forum. We will discuss whatever WE feel like on a PAKISTANI forum.
 
Let us do a deal then, you and your compatriots leave the PakPassion boards to discuss your internal issues on an Indian forum and we will concentrate on our citizens. Please notify me of your final post so I can bid you a pleasant farewell. :wave

Your citizens ? I seen your post which said you were born in the UK, so you are not a Pakistani citizen.. So kid, how many years have you spent in Pakistan ?
 
Your citizens ? I seen your post which said you were born in the UK, so you are not a Pakistani citizen.. So kid, how many years have you spent in Pakistan ?

I'm a British Pakistani so you will often see me discussing issues from both countries. You may recall my threads about Southall and Wembley. You on the other hand are an Aussie by the looks of it, so not really sure what you are doing here.

p.s. remember to drop a line when you do your final post.
 
I'm a British Pakistani so you will often see me discussing issues from both countries. You may recall my threads about Southall and Wembley. You on the other hand are an Aussie by the looks of it, so not really sure what you are doing here.

p.s. remember to drop a line when you do your final post.

So I assume you haven't spent much time in Pakistan, hence my point is proven; an old timer who is a well recognized journalist (Najem Sethi) who is based in pakistan is much more of a credible source than a kid like you living in UK.... Oh and I am an old timer here as you know, been here since hmm lets see since you were maybe 15 and if the mods didnt want me here Saj would have had a word with me, me and Saj have good mutual respect for each other. So I will be here for a long long time and I will call you out kid from time to time, if you are too sensitive and cant handle it, I suggest you make other arrangements....
 
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So I assume you haven't spent much time in Pakistan, hence my point is proven; an old timer who is a well recognized journalist (Najem Sethi) who is based in pakistan is much more of a credible source than a kid like you living in UK

Well that is the point, I am quite happy to discuss Najam Sethi's viewpoint on the issue of Modi's hardline stance on Pakistan, but you still haven't told me what it is. Just paste a quote where he gives this view which you keep endorsing and let's see if I agree with it.
 
Well that is the point, I am quite happy to discuss Najam Sethi's viewpoint on the issue of Modi's hardline stance on Pakistan, but you still haven't told me what it is. Just paste a quote where he gives this view which you keep endorsing and let's see if I agree with it.

I made my stance clear, GK started it on post 47 saying India started the wars with Pakistan however a more credible Pakistani source Najem Sethi disagreed...
 
I made my stance clear, GK started it on post 47 saying India started the wars with Pakistan however a more credible Pakistani source Najem Sethi disagreed...

The thread has nothing to do with who started wars, it's about Modi's current policy re engaging Pakistan. So not really sure what relevance Sethi has on this, as far as I know he hasn't spoken on it.
 
The thread has nothing to do with who started wars, it's about Modi's current policy re engaging Pakistan. So not really sure what relevance Sethi has on this, as far as I know he hasn't spoken on it.

You should take that up with GK, he is the one who mentioned it on post 47....... Najem Sethi might well have a hardline negative view on Modi and that is fine, I have no issues with it he is entitled to his opinion..
 
GK,

Arguing aside, you need to realize that India chose Modi because Kongress were nothing but frauds who were destroying the country. I mean had Kongress won again, people like Rahul Gandoo who could not run a brothel let alone a country would have the say in how the country is run, so of course we are going to chose Modi as he is the better leader to run 'India'. You need to stop being obsessed with citizens of another country, Indian muslims are India's issue not yours, you should be focusing on your citizens, your voiceless minorities who badly need your help.

lol thats quite ironic coming from an "indian" living in australia on a "pakistani" forum. Please continue to love Modi but dont expect Pakistanis on a Pakistani forum not to criticise a man who has such a chequered ,to say the least, history. And then this same individual and country has the cheek to lecture others. Sorry mate but its just laughable.
 
More than a dozen posts on the credibility of Najam Sethi, in the thread discussing Indian foreign policy of Pakistan.
 
Can you provide a link where it says Modi was denied Visa and barred from UK.As far bck as 2013 UK MPs had met Modi and asked him to visit UK and address the House of commons.
Will this do?

The 2002 violence led to a de facto travel ban imposed on Modi by the UK, the US and some European nations, as well as the boycott by all but junior officials. In 2005, Modi was refused a US visa as someone held responsible for a serious violation of religious freedom.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/22/uk-ends-boycott-narendra-modi
 
Another thread with mudslinging from both sides. On topic though I think a lot of people are overrating the importance of Pakistan for the average aam aadmi here.

It is true that Pakistan topic is brought up whenever political parties want to score a few points or to deflect attention from other issues.

Modi having a hard-line policy towards Pakistan is neither seen favourably nor is it seen negatively. Most people simply couldn't care less. May not be the right attitude when you want to build bridges but I suppose no one really wants.

As long as his domestic policies are good and foreign relations with other nations are improving, it doesn't matter what he does as far as Pakistan is concerned.

I kind of agree with this analysis.

General public is kind of "doesn't matter" attitude when it comes to relation with Pakistan.

As long as the foreign policy is getting better with other countries and its not impacting India's domestic policy, they are happy to stay in this state.

General impression is just make sure there is no terrorism from Pakistan. They somehow got no more expectation.
 
Nopes.Because Modi never even applied for a UK visa so no question of him being denied entry.
:))) :))) :)))

So your position is that, although Modi was banned by the UK, USA and most European countries, he was only ever denied a visa and entry to the USA, but never 'denied' entry to the UK and other European countries since he never applied for a visa to enter those countries ? - which would have been refused anyway had he applied due to being banned !

That's like saying, after 9/11 Osama Bin Laden was never denied a visa to the USA since he never applied for one. :haha

(apparently OBL had visited the USA in his younger days)
 
More than a dozen posts on the credibility of Najam Sethi, in the thread discussing Indian foreign policy of Pakistan.

Quite ridiculous, I'm still not sure why Najam Sethi's name was brought up in the first place since he hasn't even commented on this topic.
 
lol thats quite ironic coming from an "indian" living in australia on a "pakistani" forum. Please continue to love Modi but dont expect Pakistanis on a Pakistani forum not to criticise a man who has such a chequered ,to say the least, history. And then this same individual and country has the cheek to lecture others. Sorry mate but its just laughable.

Ok talking to a brick wall I see... Go ahead criticize Modi all you want, since you live in a glass house yourself don't cry foul when stones comes your way ....
 
Modi is stumbling on ideology and the domestic front but I like his foreign policy whether it is selfie diplomacy , rockstar receptions or making pakistan see reality.He could well be a real geopolitical gamechanger in 5 years.:)
 
Ok talking to a brick wall I see... Go ahead criticize Modi all you want, since you live in a glass house yourself don't cry foul when stones comes your way ....

yes we are Pakistanis who cant see what we're upto and dont criticise ourselves enough. India will teach us how to do that. If even someone like Nadeem paracha is writing about India's tilt towards rightwing extremisim you know youre in trouble..
 
I have yet to see your ummah brigade here raise much noise about the hardships your minorities face.....

last I remember our "minorities" weren't massacred and in their thousands and driven out from their homes in their hundreds...Pakistan has a decent media industry now and there are many many activists fighting for minority rights. Unlike your society however minorities are not ingrained in the system. e.g. caste system. Its not perfect its actually downright rubbish but we know that and don't vote in massive numbers for people who actively kill our minorities like the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi. (our equivalent of the RSS)
 
I have yet to see your ummah brigade here raise much noise about the hardships your minorities face.....

Oh and by the way i know it burns but the Ummah is a living reality. We live it everyday when we go to the Mosque and embrace our brothers from all over the world. yes it has major political problems but most Muslims know why this is and when given the chance the ummah thrives!!
 
Oh and by the way i know it burns but the Ummah is a living reality. We live it everyday when we go to the Mosque and embrace our brothers from all over the world. yes it has major political problems but most Muslims know why this is and when given the chance the ummah thrives!!

Congratulations, I am so jealous of you and your Ummah brigade :yk2, when I look around in the world and see how the muslim world is thriving I cant stop my envy lol.. Too bad those harmless and hindu and christian minorities of your country are not embraced..
 
Modi is stumbling on ideology and the domestic front but I like his foreign policy whether it is selfie diplomacy , rockstar receptions or making pakistan see reality.He could well be a real geopolitical gamechanger in 5 years.:)

Characters like Modi can't do a jack against Pakistan because at the end of the day we are a nuclear state. Having good relations with Pakistan would have helped India reduce their poverty because last time I heard Pakistan was close to give India status of MFN.
 
Characters like Modi can't do a jack against Pakistan because at the end of the day we are a nuclear state. Having good relations with Pakistan would have helped India reduce their poverty because last time I heard Pakistan was close to give India status of MFN.

I am convinced India and Pak need to take a break from each other
 
65,71,48. All three invasions of Pakistani territory by India. Two of them across the international border. and the third in 48 was a gross violation of democracy. That has repercussions today..

By and large India has over time bullied harassed and overall made life pretty difficult for Pakistan since its existence. Every move from Pakistan is either a counter more or a reactive move.

You and CJ have already discussed it.... My two cents are

48.... Kashmir was yet to decide where to go, The local leader Sheikh Abdullah liked Nehru more than Jinnah, as such wanted to side with former... Maharajah frankly never had a choice, it had to be India... That left Jinnah with only one choice, That was armed invasion... His British army head would never allow it, so 'kabail' raid started...they had a cake walk in Kashmir and Those murderous thugs did not differentiate between Hindu and Muslim and committed mass rapes in Baramulla and hence lost precious time, but for that India would never have landed in Srinagar... In any case army came later and a ceasefire started....
 
65.....General Ayub Khan had success in Rann of Kutch and the joker started believing that Indian Army would be unable to defend itself against a quick military campaign in the disputed territory of Kashmir as the Indian military had suffered a loss to China in 1962 and famously said, ' Hindu will' is weak....He also believed that the population of Kashmir was generally discontented with Indian rule and that a resistance movement could be ignited by a few infiltrating saboteurs. Pakistan attempted to ignite the resistance movement by means of a covert infiltration, codenamed Operation Gibraltar and Grand Slam....The Pakistani infiltrators were soon discovered, however, their presence reported by local Kashmiris, and the operation ended unsuccessfully.

India retaliated by launching a full-scale military attack on West Pakistan. The seventeen-day war caused thousands of casualties on both sides and also witnessed the largest tank battle since World War II. The hostilities between the two countries ended after a ceasefire was declared following diplomatic intervention by the Soviet Union and USA and the subsequent issuance of the Tashkent Declaration. Both India and Pakistan claimed victory. However, most neutral assessments agree that India had the upper hand over Pakistan when ceasefire was declared but I don't think anyone won anything
 
70,000 people expected to attend Modi event at Wembley

70k people expected to greet PM Modi during his maiden visit to UK

A 70,000 strong reception in one of England's iconic landmarks - the Wembley stadium is all set to greet prime minister Narendra Modi when he embarks on his maiden visit to UK later this year....

The Europe India Forum (EIF) announced on Friday that it will be hosting a massive reception - a Madison Square Garden-style meet, in honour of the Indian PM at Wembley on November 13.

The reception themed "Two Great Nations. One Glorious Future" will kick off with a specially produced cultural show featuring some of the very best British Indian artists...

Indians are now UK's largest ethnic community with a large section of them being from Gujarat....

The longest serving Indian origin MP in UK Keith Vaz recently called Modi a rockstar and told TOI: "PM Modi has done incredibly well in a short space of time. For the diaspora community, he is a rockstar, and he has undoubtedly raised international interest in Indian politics and its leadership. If he follows through with his bold economic proposals and ambition on the world stage, he can make India a true power."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s-maiden-visit-to-UK/articleshow/48714895.cms

Rock on Narendra. I wonder if the Indian throngs will carry Modi to the short trip to Wembley's impressive Hindu temple where he can shower blessings on his ex-pat community?
 
Modi would shame the epic voyagers/travelers of the past like Columbus. He has been touring ever since he became PM.
 
Rishwat , you should also go afterall you have spend so much time obsessing about him , so it could be your one chance in a lifetime to see the Legend closeby.
 
Rishwat , you should also go afterall you have spend so much time obsessing about him , so it could be your one chance in a lifetime to see the Legend closeby.

Legend? as in "yo! man you're a legend for killin all dem muslims in Gujrat and becoming PM on da back of it!"
 
Rishwat , you should also go afterall you have spend so much time obsessing about him , so it could be your one chance in a lifetime to see the Legend closeby.

I don't think I could get a ticket, London's Indian population will have snapped them up before I could get down there. I doubt I could get in anyway, British with Pakistani roots don't get visas for India easily, I think the security at Wembley might be similar.
 
What's with India's obsession with the word 'rockstar'.. Har kisi ko rockstar bunna dehtay hain
 
What will be the reaction when Modi comes to Pakistan on a State Visit ?

In the recent times , Modi has been welcomed with open arms in every country that he has visited . Prior to him getting elected , there was a reasonable opposition towards him visiting certain countries but all of it has mellowed down after he became the PM and every country has been rolling down red carpets to welcome the Indian Prime Minister.

Pakistan is one country where Modi has been one of the most hated figures for his alleged role in Godhra Massacre of Muslims . The Politicians , Civil Servants , Religious Leaders and common public had a very negative view of him right from the beginning and things got worse as he went on to become the PM.

So , my question is how will Modi's visit to Pakistan be seen among Pakistanis ? Will some of the public and religious leaders protest ? Will there even be a danger to his life ? Will there be some opposition ?

Modi will visit Pakistan during the 2016 SAARC Summit.
 
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Is there enough of a Hindu community to afford him a rock star welcome? Got to remember it is mostly Indian ex-pats who give him such rousing welcomes in countries like US or Australia. That said, Pakistanis tend to be quite welcoming to Indian celebrities, if he was to make a public appearance he would probably get a good reception, but it's not going to happen.
 
Something like

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He probably would get such a crowd everywhere in the world even in Pakistan. He is the most charismatic leader with impressive resume in the world today
 
LOL. Whose this Swara Bhaskar ? ( Really dont know ). You are comparing Modi who already has the image of anti-muslim bigot to a nobody .
 
Is there enough of a Hindu community to afford him a rock star welcome?

When have Pakistan's Hindus ever amounted to anything?
Modi has been given red-carpet welcomes by the governments of the countries he has visited
and the Muslim Government of Pakistan will do the same.
 
How old are you?

What Modi jee is doing these days whats wrong if he do this also? What it has to do with my age?

If someone asked this on my face you know what would be my answer? "Rishta daina hai?" #Chill :yk
 
He should do what Kane or Undertaker do in WWE. Epic scene!

I'm just lol'ing at this, Modi should the least be acting presidential, at the moment from what I've seen he's very child like excited guy
 
The world adores Modi. Americans, Arabs, Chinese, Britons all alike and its just a matter of time before Pakistanis become fan of our Bajrangi Bhaijaan Prime Minister.
 
What Modi jee is doing these days whats wrong if he do this also? What it has to do with my age?

If someone asked this on my face you know what would be my answer? "Rishta daina hai?" #Chill :yk

Usually 13 year olds make references to WWE in adult conversations, since you didn't seem like a 13 year old hence I inquired after the cringeworthy post.
 
Usually 13 year olds make references to WWE in adult conversations, since you didn't seem like a 13 year old hence I inquired after the cringeworthy post.

Not necessarily. Seen 70s years old watching WWE live. You need to come out of your room someday for a change
 
When is Modi scheduled to visit Pakistan?
 
If there is a case registered in Pakistan against Modi for his involvement in Gujrat massacre, then Modi can be arrested in Pakistan and face the justice.
 
Nothing can beat any Chinese President visit to Pakistan he always gets the best welcome in Pakistan from public and goverment. Even the USA president can't enjoy a welcome like that in Pakistan :P

Security situation is not good these days so it's not allowed otherwise i still remember how public use to come on roads to welcome chinese president.

From recent visit:

Pakistan Air Force JF-17 escorting Chinese President

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Capital Islamabad

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China-Pakistan friendship Zindabad. Nice.

There is an old song in Urdu and Chinese the title is "Pak China dosti Zindabad"

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Not necessarily. Seen 70s years old watching WWE live. You need to come out of your room someday for a change

A grown up adult mentioning Undertaker and WWE in a political thread (WWE btw which very few aqal walay watch anymore considering how laughable and childish its become) and I am the one in my room. :91:
 
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