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Actually congress still gives into lot of socialist schemes economically atleast,t hey alwats regulate gas,oil nd stuff not to forget increase govn stake in many public sectors inspite of previous NDA disinvesting under Arun Shourie.The massive increase of babus are another annoyance,they do things as per IMF but not that willingly as BJP.

Actually even under the last UPA, social expenditure was only about 1.7% of our GDP. Most of the Western world, including the US and UK who were the primary forces behind the aggressive expansion of neoliberalism, still spend around 20% of their GDP on the social sector with France and Finland spending around 30%. I agree that the public sector has largely been a failure in India though.
 
The win in UP is going to be even bigger than the exit polls suggested. Not doing as well in Goa though.
 
perilous when communal politics plays a significant role in election and how it has consistently defined indian politics since babri masjid demolition.up elections are just another manifestation of it.
 
Rahul Gandhi destroyed yet again.

When will the Congress learn?
 
perilous when communal politics plays a significant role in election and how it has consistently defined indian politics since babri masjid demolition.up elections are just another manifestation of it.

Even in first world countries it has played roles and you would notice it playing role even in Europe soon,South Asia was made divided on the basis on communal politics and it has passed on from since then not Babri as such.
 
I fail to understand how the castes that have been discriminated gave into this illusion of "Hindu brotherhood" which doesn't exist,reading a book called "A Fine Balance"(1996) and this same thing is mentioned in that how politicians come at time of elections promising no discrimination equality and what not and it always fails.
 
Even in first world countries it has played roles and you would notice it playing role even in Europe soon,South Asia was made divided on the basis on communal politics and it has passed on from since then not Babri as such.

Agreed.But purely in indian context, communal bigotry and jingoism are getting more mainstreamed since modi came to power.it has sort of opened floodgates and with the lynch mob national media things have only chsnged for worse.european politics at the moment is more about about racism and fear of muslim immigration coupled with failure of globalisation and rising unemployment.although in this up election upper caste vote plus non yadavs have consolidated against sp and congress.caateism too has played its part.
 
Best people are saying UP elections were rigged.. BJP winning so many seats is unfathomable.
 
Agreed.But purely in indian context, communal bigotry and jingoism are getting more mainstreamed since modi came to power.it has sort of opened floodgates and with the lynch mob national media things have only chsnged for worse.european politics at the moment is more about about racism and fear of muslim immigration coupled with failure of globalisation and rising unemployment.although in this up election upper caste vote plus non yadavs have consolidated against sp and congress.caateism too has played its part.

Most Muslim majority areas in UP have voted for BJP this election.

It's only for so long one can scare people in the name of communal politics.Regardless with community one belong people just want development and betterment of their lives .
 
HAHAHAHA!!!! I am enjoying the tears of salty people today, BJP winning the largest state of India after 21 years. Jai Modi Ji, Har Har Modi Ghar Ghar Modi !!
 
Landslide victory for BJP.Completely obliterated and demolished the so called 'secular' parties.
 
Kaun sach hai? Bhagwan ya Allah?

Poor people: Woh sab chodo, pehle mujhe do roti dedo bhaiyya.

SP and BSP are known to be inefficient and corrupt.

Congress was seen as useless.

BJP is seen as the hope for development.

I didn't expect this result but gotta give credit where its due.

Modi, Shah and BJP team have obliterated everyone else.

Muslims of UP voting for BJP is the best thing that could have happened to India. Not because they voted for BJP but because we are slowly but surely moving into an era where development and end results are the focus.

Still not there but the signs are good.
 
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Muslims constitute around 22 % of Uttar Pradesh population.This victory wouldn't have been possible without a good margin of them voting for the bjp.Propaganda of congress and BSP/SP as well as of big media conglomerates that muslims would never vote bjp in power busted yet again.Good to see that we are finally seeing elections in India where communalism is being sidetracked by promise of development and growth.
 
They have completely obliterated everyone in UP. I never imagined such a big victory for them in UP. On NDTV , even Prakash javedekar was insulting Digvijay Singh of the Congress when the latter insisted that the Central leadership of the Congress will not change(read rahul gandhi) . Will they ever learn? I, for one, will be glad when the Congress becomes a thing of the past. They have outlived their usefulness. As long as they are the main "opposition party", Bhajpa will win everything with ridiculous ease. Might as well just declare Modi a dictator and be done with it.
 
Good for the people of UP. They seem to have voted with their brains, unlike their Bihari neighbours.

The faster the Mulayams, Laloos and Mayawatis are eliminated from Indian politics, the better.
 
I, for one, will be glad when the Congress becomes a thing of the past.

I sincerely hope not. A thriving democracy needs a strong opposition. Indian polity has already become a lot poorer after the Left parties ceased to be a strong force.

I hope the Congress ressurrects itself and emerges as a strong force. But to do that they will need to end the Gandhi family fixation and alow one of their younger leaders like Jyotiraditya Scindia or Sachin PIlot to take over the helm.

The ones that need to be buried six feet underground are the casteist imbeciles like the Mulayams, Laloos and the Mayawatis.
 
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Most Muslim majority areas in UP have voted for BJP this election.

It's only for so long one can scare people in the name of communal politics.Regardless with community one belong people just want development and betterment of their lives .

It doesnt work out like that.a state where communal rhetoric like Mandir wahi banae or even pm of a country snides in with a kabristan jibe or someone like yogi adityanath looked upon as a prospective cm candidate one can only gauge how radically the society is aligned on communal lines.infact in areas where muslim vote matters there are more chances of hindu vote consolidation.it is pur communal politics plus casteism at play here.
 
I sincerely hope not. A thriving democracy needs a strong opposition. Indian polity has already become a lot poorer after the Left parties ceased to be a strong force.

I hope the Congress ressurrects itself and emerges as a strong force. But to do that they will need to end the Gandhi family fixation and alow one of their younger leaders like Jyotiraditya Scindia or Sachin PIlot to take over the helm.

The ones that need to be buried six feet underground are the casteist imbeciles like the Mulayams, Laloos and the Mayawatis.
Sachin Pilot is the next cm of Rajasthan with the way things are going around here.A very good leader and an able politician.Vasundhra is a spent force and even if bjp manages to pull another win again(which seems unlikely given our history) I doubt we would see her returning as chief minister.
 
They couldn't even capture Muslim majority seat of Deoband.Thakur Brijesh Singh from BJP defeated Majid Ali of BSP.
 
They couldn't even capture Muslim majority seat of Deoband.Thakur Brijesh Singh from BJP defeated Majid Ali of BSP.

Vote split.while as i posted earlier hindu vote has actually seen consolidation in muslim majority areas or where their numbers matter.
 
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Vote split.while as i posted earlier hindu vote has actually seen consolidation in muslim majority areas or where their numbers matter.

Do you have any proof to back up your claim or just spouting nonsense as the defeat is hard to digest? At least give the credit where it's due.Why would any sane mind want to vote for SP/BSP or congress.What have they done for up despite ruling the state for two decades.Corruption and communalism rife everywhere, no development whatsoever , lack of employment leading to large scale emigration of labour class.
Beta tumse na ho payega.
 
Saw this on whatsapp :)))
Rahul Gandhi ko agar ISIS se gathbandan(coalition) karwa de to bhagwan kasam Ye ISIS ko khatm karwa de
 
Agreed.But purely in indian context, communal bigotry and jingoism are getting more mainstreamed since modi came to power.it has sort of opened floodgates and with the lynch mob national media things have only chsnged for worse.european politics at the moment is more about about racism and fear of muslim immigration coupled with failure of globalisation and rising unemployment.although in this up election upper caste vote plus non yadavs have consolidated against sp and congress.caateism too has played its part.

Casteism has always played part in Indian politics,religious or communal politics came into foray for variety of reasons,the so called concept of "Hindu Brotherhood" the us vs them which usually exists in every religion was not that common among Hindus because of caste discrimination,that is the reason it took longer to create that illusion ,they ve been working on it since independence,which is also the reason for recent "intolerant" behavior.

In 1975 I showed a comedy scene in a temple. Today I won’t. But even in 1975, I wouldn’t have shown a scene in a mosque because that level of intolerance was there. Now the other one is matching it
-Javed Akhtar

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/javed-akhtar-indian-society-tolerant-but-some-hindu-groups-behaving-like-fundamentalists/
 
umm now if BJP fail to do anything they will be obliterated too just like the Congress .
 
It doesnt work out like that.a state where communal rhetoric like Mandir wahi banae or even pm of a country snides in with a kabristan jibe or someone like yogi adityanath looked upon as a prospective cm candidate one can only gauge how radically the society is aligned on communal lines.infact in areas where muslim vote matters there are more chances of hindu vote consolidation.it is pur communal politics plus casteism at play here.

Muslims have been used as a vote bank for decades, no comments on that? A few communal people like you, cannot fathom that Akhilesh Yadav who was voted in on a new generation, development platform in 2012 did nothing but pull the state backwards. And now when the people across religious lines have voted for a development plank again, you cannot stop frothing at the mouth.
 
umm now if BJP fail to do anything they will be obliterated too just like the Congress .

That's true for every party. BJP has lost many elections, and changed their leadership due to losses. Will Congress ever change their leadership? That's the main question.
 
I like it when pakistani brothers here post like they are experts in knowing Indian Electorates and voters. Obviously they were all knowing about how demonetisation has caused public anger and dissatisfaction.This is all because they saw what certain media wanted to show.Ground reality is different.
 
I sincerely hope not. A thriving democracy needs a strong opposition. Indian polity has already become a lot poorer after the Left parties ceased to be a strong force.

I hope the Congress ressurrects itself and emerges as a strong force. But to do that they will need to end the Gandhi family fixation and alow one of their younger leaders like Jyotiraditya Scindia or Sachin PIlot to take over the helm.

The ones that need to be buried six feet underground are the casteist imbeciles like the Mulayams, Laloos and the Mayawatis.

There are also no credible second rung leaders for congress.They wouldn't be enough to revive its fortunes. Jyotiraditya Scindiya is average. Sachin Pilot is OK. But the point is there are not many.Why do you think other politicians who change parties like changing clothes so optimistic about Gandhi dynasty only?
 
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That's true for every party. BJP has lost many elections, and changed their leadership due to losses. Will Congress ever change their leadership? That's the main question.

Congress has always been run like a family buissness.
 
Congress has always been run like a family buissness.

Obviously case. But what's stopping the millions from Congress workers from protesting and demanding a change? Instead, they completely behave as slaves with always either Rahul or Priyanka as the default savior. If anything, they are the real "bhakts".
 
So what happens to Rahul baba now? Bet Congress tries to ride on the coattails of Captain Amarinder Singh and use the latters victory in Punjab as some kind of proof of Rahul's popularity.
 
I like it when pakistani brothers here post like they are experts in knowing Indian
Electorates and voters. Obviously they were all knowing about how demonetisation has caused public anger and dissatisfaction.This is all because they saw what certain media wanted to show.Ground reality is different.

True point. The indian MSM was no different, they made all that AY hype and simply put their own political preferences in the reporting. And what happened to those 100 seats opinion polls for AAP in Punjab or the Goa's no.1 party vote share? These all were frauds constructed with full media backing.
 
So what happens to Rahul baba now? Bet Congress tries to ride on the coattails of Captain Amarinder Singh and use the latters victory in Punjab as some kind of proof of Rahul's popularity.

Nothing, as usual, he will have his usual vacation soon. Then on his return, make 1-2 loud speeches and Congress bhakts will get wet their pants, and cry that he is back etc.
 
Obviously case. But what's stopping the millions from Congress workers from protesting and demanding a change? Instead, they completely behave as slaves with always either Rahul or Priyanka as the default savior. If anything, they are the real "bhakts".

They get money, fame & 'preference' in their other endavors
 
Maybe Congress & others didn't have the money to pay the people to vote for them d/t demo hence they lost by a big margin.
 
Obviously case. But what's stopping the millions from Congress workers from protesting and demanding a change?.

Good point .. remember Modi was never the choice of the BJP elite in 2013. It was always going to be Advani or Sushma but the BJP workers refused to go along till Modi was made the nominee.

Congress cadres suffer from some kind of royal family syndrome.
 
I like it when pakistani brothers here post like they are experts in knowing Indian Electorates and voters. Obviously they were all knowing about how demonetisation has caused public anger and dissatisfaction.This is all because they saw what certain media wanted to show.Ground reality is different.

Haven't been following this thread but most media, Indian or global, was saying same thing about demonetisation
 
BSP chief Mayawati, whose party received a major drubbing in the Uttar Pradesh Assembly polls, today alleged that the EVMs were tampered with in such a way that whichever button was pressed, the vote went to BJP.


Terming the results as "shocking", she said the Election Commission should stop the counting and withhold results and hold fresh polls using traditional paper ballots.


As results and trends went in favour of the BJP in a big way, she called a press conference in a hurried manner and dared Prime Minister Narendra Modi and BJP chief Amit Shah to ask the poll panel to hold fresh elections in the state "if they have an iota of morality and honesty left in them".


Mayawati said this trend will have a "very bad bearing" on democracy in the country and will amount to crushing it.


"The results in UP and Uttarakhand are surprising and not palatable to anyone...it seems EVMs did not accept votes polled for any party other than BJP," she said.


"It is a matter of common discussion here that even if button is pressed for any other party, vote will be polled in favour of BJP," Mayawati said.


The BSP chief claimed that a similar complaint was made by her partymen in the 2014 Lok Sabha polls but she had preferred to stay silent thinking it was Modi wave and anti-Congress sentiment.


She said it was "unacceptable" that the BJP was winning even in Muslim-dominated areas.


"Muslims constitute 20 per cent votes in the state and the BJP did not give a single ticket to Muslims...but in Muslim- dominated seats also the results went in the BJP's favour and this is unpalatable to the party," she said.


The BSP chief said that she has written a letter to the Election Commission in this regard and demanded that the declaration of results should be immediately stopped and fresh polls be held in the state using paper ballots after an impartial inquiry into the EVMs.


Issuing an open warning to the BJP, Mayawati said they need not be happy that they got a majority as they have "killed democracy and this is betrayal of democracy".

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/po...election-says-evms-tampered-with-2149635.html

Mayawati - always ripe for some giggles.

She, Akhilesh and Rahul should hang their collective heads in shame that a party with no chief ministerial candidate was able to clobber them so.

Well deserved too.
 
Casteism has always played part in Indian politics,religious or communal politics came into foray for variety of reasons,the so called concept of "Hindu Brotherhood" the us vs them which usually exists in every religion was not that common among Hindus because of caste discrimination,that is the reason it took longer to create that illusion ,they ve been working on it since independence,which is also the reason for recent "intolerant" behavior.


-Javed Akhtar

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/javed-akhtar-indian-society-tolerant-but-some-hindu-groups-behaving-like-fundamentalists/

Fair enough.but i still believe with india it is a lot more overarching.one gets a feel by manoeuvring a particular rhetoric skillfully a party can exponentially raise its stakes without much showing on the ground.this election also in a way broke the myth of "development plank".earlier it was disguised behind communalism.this time around it has been more open.
 
AAP has performed well for their first election in Punjab ,yes they over hyped themselves but think slowly they would make inroads into Punjab,remarkable thought that they couldn't win a seat in Goa terrible hopefully BJP doesn't come there.
 
Last time i checked, Punjab, Goa and Manipur were Indian states and not Pakistani. Apparently 3 of the 5 states which are interestingly all located at distant corners of the country did not recognise any Modi wave because there is none.

What India is going through in actual is a resurgent Hindutva wave and it's something that ashames any responsible secular Indian not carrying a chip of insecurity and hatred in his head.

The level of utter shamelessness that BJP and our PM Modi has stooped to will destroy the very foundation of this country and if this madness isn't stopped soon enough, India will ceaze to exist in the way we have known it. As history teaches us, majority isn't always right. These are monumental disasters in our nation's history and if at all we remain intact for years to come, these will be looked at as a matter of shame. Lessons for future generations to learn from. That this is how you ruin perfectly fine nations.
 
Last time i checked, Punjab, Goa and Manipur were Indian states and not Pakistani. Apparently 3 of the 5 states which are interestingly all located at distant corners of the country did not recognise any Modi wave because there is none.

What India is going through in actual is a resurgent Hindutva wave and it's something that ashames any responsible secular Indian not carrying a chip of insecurity and hatred in his head.

The level of utter shamelessness that BJP and our PM Modi has stooped to will destroy the very foundation of this country and if this madness isn't stopped soon enough, India will ceaze to exist in the way we have known it. As history teaches us, majority isn't always right. These are monumental disasters in our nation's history and if at all we remain intact for years to come, these will be looked at as a matter of shame. Lessons for future generations to learn from. That this is how you ruin perfectly fine nations.
Goa is at a distant corner, like Pondicherry? Also in Manipur they've had their best results ever, won Assam for the first time ever. It's not like there needs to be a Modi wave, the so called left or alt front is doing a swell job telling the rest of India that they're good (alternative) because Modi is bad. The people aren't as stupid as many of these regional/national parties are finding out.
 
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Last time i checked, Punjab, Goa and Manipur were Indian states and not Pakistani. Apparently 3 of the 5 states which are interestingly all located at distant corners of the country did not recognise any Modi wave because there is none.

What India is going through in actual is a resurgent Hindutva wave and it's something that ashames any responsible secular Indian not carrying a chip of insecurity and hatred in his head.

The level of utter shamelessness that BJP and our PM Modi has stooped to will destroy the very foundation of this country and if this madness isn't stopped soon enough, India will ceaze to exist in the way we have known it. As history teaches us, majority isn't always right. These are monumental disasters in our nation's history and if at all we remain intact for years to come, these will be looked at as a matter of shame. Lessons for future generations to learn from. That this is how you ruin perfectly fine nations.


Lol what? Such a politically novice reply..

1. In Punjab BJP/Akali were always going to be decimated in this election, no one could have saved them both BJP and Akali's knew that already.. 10 years of anti incumbency and corruption and mis governance was too much.. So Modi ji could not have done anything..
2. In Manipur BJP had won 1 seat before this election iirc.. Now they are 2nd largest party, this is remarkable for BJP who does not have a strong local cadre in Manipur..
3. In Goa as per today's reports BJP will form the government if MAnohar pariikar was declared the CM candidate before elections BJP would have won majority. But since he moved to defence minsitership the CM candidate lost his own seat means was not a popular figure like paririkar..

Now regarding U.P elections I said this after 2014 elections and I'll say it now Muslims of U.P are fed up being used as votebanks.. They want development and good standard of living they have trusted in SP and BSP for far too long and have got nothing in return.. So they are putting their faith in BJP..

Yes BJP has few leaders who during election times make polarising statements but that gets them votes and support of stupid people.. Now they are in power in full majority their prime focus on should be on delivering their manifesto and development of the state..

India is moving in the right direction, psuedo liberals like you read 2-3 news article and think everything is wrong but overall we are going on the right track.. Majority people voted for BJP due to their pitch of development and Modi Ji's clean image of governance and his rule in last 2 years.. Some might have voted due to communal card but they are the minority not majority of Indians.
 
AAP has performed well for their first election in Punjab ,yes they over hyped themselves but think slowly they would make inroads into Punjab,remarkable thought that they couldn't win a seat in Goa terrible hopefully BJP doesn't come there.
Please stop that BS. They got less votes shares than 2014. And then even SAD got more votes than them despite contesting lesser no of seats. + their possible CM candidate himself lost there.

The real question should be what happened to those winning 100 seats opinion polls? AAP ran a big propaganda on behalf of that. They only have themselves to blame and running false propaganda with media's help.
 
What India is going through in actual is a resurgent Hindutva wave and it's something that ashames any responsible secular Indian not carrying a chip of insecurity and hatred in his head.

The level of utter shamelessness that BJP and our PM Modi has stooped to will destroy the very foundation of this country and if this madness isn't stopped soon enough, India will ceaze to exist in the way we have known it. As history teaches us, majority isn't always right. These are monumental disasters in our nation's history and if at all we remain intact for years to come, these will be looked at as a matter of shame. Lessons for future generations to learn from. That this is how you ruin perfectly fine nations.

And who gave you right to give certificates on who is secular or not? Why do you think it's you and so called intellectuals think it's their birthright to have all the Muslim votes? And since when has Muslims votes become secular votes, while BJP votes is communal votes. They are all Indian votes.

Yet, I don't think you will understand it. So keep supporting the likes of criminals, castist, frauds like Aloo, Maya, Rahul, AK. In the meantime, more development takes place with scheme like LPG connection where every Indian irrespective of caste and religion gets the benefit. That's the true secular model not vote banks politics.
 
Haven't been following this thread but most media, Indian or global, was saying same thing about demonetisation

Don't trust global media on anything worth done in desi countries.Remember the coverage of Mangalayan.Also the point was not whether demonetisation was a disaster or not.I am saying the portrayal that people disapproved it is what I am contesting against.Biased news channel in their hatred for Modi kept on portraying gloom and doom among people while global media picked up the same.Demonetisation certainly p.i.s.s.e.d off people due to inconvenience they faced but these things are not decisive when it comes to voting.
 
AAP has performed well for their first election in Punjab ,yes they over hyped themselves but think slowly they would make inroads into Punjab,remarkable thought that they couldn't win a seat in Goa terrible hopefully BJP doesn't come there.

No they haven't. SAD-BJP facing worst of punjab's anger managed to get 18 seats and AAP just 20 seats. If there was any new party in Punjab with charismatic leader and few others under him who are just about good they would have swept Punjab instead of congress.
 
AAP has performed well for their first election in Punjab ,yes they over hyped themselves but think slowly they would make inroads into Punjab,remarkable thought that they couldn't win a seat in Goa terrible hopefully BJP doesn't come there.

This was the best chance ever for AAP to make into Punjab. Akalis are never going away from Punjab and were at their weakest ever. AAP screwed up big time here.

1. Bhagwant Mann and his drunken antics, ruined every narrative that AAP would be anti drug.
2. AAP tried to get close to fanatic Sikh vote, which scared every normal person in Punjab.
3. Alienating Sidhu was suicidal. Sidhu has a reputation of being an honest politician, Kejriwal and Mann could not share power.
4. AAP got 4 seats in Punjab because of Chotepur but Kejriwal again in his tyrannical form chucked him out too.

AAP will not get such a chance again ever. They missed the train to Punjab because of their own big time blunders.
 
This was the best chance ever for AAP to make into Punjab. Akalis are never going away from Punjab and were at their weakest ever. AAP screwed up big time here.

1. Bhagwant Mann and his drunken antics, ruined every narrative that AAP would be anti drug.
2. AAP tried to get close to fanatic Sikh vote, which scared every normal person in Punjab.
3. Alienating Sidhu was suicidal. Sidhu has a reputation of being an honest politician, Kejriwal and Mann could not share power.
4. AAP got 4 seats in Punjab because of Chotepur but Kejriwal again in his tyrannical form chucked him out too.

AAP will not get such a chance again ever. They missed the train to Punjab because of their own big time blunders.

AAP will make their entry into Punjab and slowly and steady and yes Akalis are not going anywhere from Punjab but Captain will,AAP however ridiculous Kejri is they try to connect locally with people unlike many parties but they do alienate a lot of Hindu Punjabis which will cause an issue for them.

Its not about always making inroads based on "one opportunity" AAP is in it for the long game in Punjab and one would notice the same,not denying about media wanting them their in power yes that was the hype machine.
 
Please stop that BS. They got less votes shares than 2014. And then even SAD got more votes than them despite contesting lesser no of seats. + their possible CM candidate himself lost there.

The real question should be what happened to those winning 100 seats opinion polls? AAP ran a big propaganda on behalf of that. They only have themselves to blame and running false propaganda with media's help.
Media hype was there which is what i have already mentioned in the post ,the question is how long BJP and their allies will continue with the capitalist agenda(Which i support btw) people are bound to go against that policy sooner in a country like India where socialism is sadly in the DNA.

Also the BS comes from every party not only AAP-Congress but also from Modi with some of the terrible rallies that get carried on by them,I for one will never be ok with a person in Saffron dress making laws for me.

No they haven't. SAD-BJP facing worst of punjab's anger managed to get 18 seats and AAP just 20 seats. If there was any new party in Punjab with charismatic leader and few others under him who are just about good they would have swept Punjab instead of congress.

Its not that easy to get votes as you are imagining if that was the case Iron Sharmilla/Separatists or so many first timers would make inroads into many states but that doesn't happen.

Politics is not a one time thing,it takes times for parties to take root.
 
Muslims voting for bjp are like the Muslims voting for trump.... it will soon come round to bite them...
 
Muslim women voting for BJP (if that actually happened) is a big slap in the face for Congress & their motto of women's empowerment. I am suspicious whether BJP actually cares about making polygamy or triple talaq illegal
 
Lol what? Such a politically novice reply..

1. In Punjab BJP/Akali were always going to be decimated in this election, no one could have saved them both BJP and Akali's knew that already.. 10 years of anti incumbency and corruption and mis governance was too much.. So Modi ji could not have done anything..
2. In Manipur BJP had won 1 seat before this election iirc.. Now they are 2nd largest party, this is remarkable for BJP who does not have a strong local cadre in Manipur..
3. In Goa as per today's reports BJP will form the government if MAnohar pariikar was declared the CM candidate before elections BJP would have won majority. But since he moved to defence minsitership the CM candidate lost his own seat means was not a popular figure like paririkar..

Now regarding U.P elections I said this after 2014 elections and I'll say it now Muslims of U.P are fed up being used as votebanks.. They want development and good standard of living they have trusted in SP and BSP for far too long and have got nothing in return.. So they are putting their faith in BJP..

Yes BJP has few leaders who during election times make polarising statements but that gets them votes and support of stupid people.. Now they are in power in full majority their prime focus on should be on delivering their manifesto and development of the state..

India is moving in the right direction, psuedo liberals like you read 2-3 news article and think everything is wrong but overall we are going on the right track.. Majority people voted for BJP due to their pitch of development and Modi Ji's clean image of governance and his rule in last 2 years.. Some might have voted due to communal card but they are the minority not majority of Indians.
This election is a huge slap to pseudo secular, caste politics and appeasement, rightly said that Punjab was to happen, regarding Goa and manipur, bjp is making government their and their is no two questions about it.
 
Last time i checked, Punjab, Goa and Manipur were Indian states and not Pakistani. Apparently 3 of the 5 states which are interestingly all located at distant corners of the country did not recognise any Modi wave because there is none.

What India is going through in actual is a resurgent Hindutva wave and it's something that ashames any responsible secular Indian not carrying a chip of insecurity and hatred in his head.

The level of utter shamelessness that BJP and our PM Modi has stooped to will destroy the very foundation of this country and if this madness isn't stopped soon enough, India will ceaze to exist in the way we have known it. As history teaches us, majority isn't always right. These are monumental disasters in our nation's history and if at all we remain intact for years to come, these will be looked at as a matter of shame. Lessons for future generations to learn from. That this is how you ruin perfectly fine nations.
One thing this election has made sure is that narendra modi Is here to stay so is bjp and their ain't a Jack any sickular can do about it.
 
The secular brigade are still not coming to their senses. For them secularism means muslim and Christian appeasement with token seat allocation and back stabbing them once into power.

The majority has realized that this appeasement politics are not on and r voting with their feet against pseudo secular dynasty parties.

Heck even the minorities are seeing through their pseudo secular ideas is just for votes and not for their upliftment
 
The Muslim Vote bank has been made totally redundant by the BJP.

If it was upto Muslims of UP, they would have continued to vote for so called secular parties like SP and BSP.
 
The Muslim Vote bank has been made totally redundant by the BJP.

If it was upto Muslims of UP, they would have continued to vote for so called secular parties like SP and BSP.
Nah, it's the Muslim women who have supported bjp on the issue of triple talaq bjp winning majority of Muslim area's is a proof of that, a lot of Muslim women are fed up with polygamy and triple talaq and they want to live a life of inspiration, even those who wanted a better life wanted change, they were fed up of caste and religion based politics also,women take inspiration from strong women leaders like sushma Swaraj and smriti irani ,not some behnji's.
 
Also a lot of young guys who want to be doctors, engineers,wants to match the world toe to toe have voted for BJP.
 
It's Muslim women who have stood behind BJP.

Check the election comission of india's website.places like deoband,ferozabad etc where there is significant muslim vote there has been clear split of vote.and muslim women voting fr bjp is like hindu women voting fr hafiz saeed.i cud hsve put here the statement of one bjp leader yogi adityanath who has massive following in up and may well be the cm of up,on dead muslim women.it is so shameful i wont post ot here.so that answers
 
Check the election comission of india's website.places like deoband,ferozabad etc where there is significant muslim vote there has been clear split of vote.and muslim women voting fr bjp is like hindu women voting fr hafiz saeed.i cud hsve put here the statement of one bjp leader yogi adityanath who has massive following in up and may well be the cm of up,on dead muslim women.it is so shameful i wont post ot here.so that answers

These are all your convenient assumptions . I know Muslims personally who support BJP , there is a section which realises Congress is the biggest reason for the rift created between the communities . There can never be just one single reason for a party winning an election like BJP did . This was impossible without a good amount muslims voting for them .
 
AAP will make their entry into Punjab and slowly and steady and yes Akalis are not going anywhere from Punjab but Captain will,AAP however ridiculous Kejri is they try to connect locally with people unlike many parties but they do alienate a lot of Hindu Punjabis which will cause an issue for them.

Its not about always making inroads based on "one opportunity" AAP is in it for the long game in Punjab and one would notice the same,not denying about media wanting them their in power yes that was the hype machine.

APP is done and dusted . They will not come to power again in Delhi and Kejriwal and co dont have any intention of playing a good opposition's role and build the party in the Punjab . They will not play the long game . They want instant results and i can bet on anything that Kejri had his eye on becoming PM in 2019 and once he sees that it wont happen he wudnt be too bothered about anything else . Rahul and Kejri will just ensure the "secular" and minority votes get split in the next general elections .
 
Like every other state , you will most likely see the danga fasad and communal tensions will subside in UP with BJP in rule . Though they dont speak about uplifting minorities and giving them reservations , once they have come into power they neither target or please any community . Like we have seen in the centre , the discussions will now be diverted to more development and economics related .
 
I am truly shocked by the results of this election. I believed that the Sangh and its affiliated goons had too far in destroying the moral fabric of this country that they needed some sort of setback at some point .!

But kudos to NaMo for this incredible comeback. If BJP had flopped, that would have been treated as a referendum on his demonetization call, and would have considerably weakened his position within the BJP. That would mean that the BJP would resort to further communalism and pseudo-nationalism to strengthen their case for 2019.

I do trust Modi as a leader though I'm absolutely against the RSS and the Sangh brand of politics and the regressive ideology they sprout . But since Congrass is stuck with an absolute ****** like Rahul , India needs a strong pro-active leader, which Modi is !. If with the current super-hero standing of his within the party, he can keep the ugly elements of the sangh (the lynch mobs, the ABVP, "go-to-pakistan if you disagree" brigade, the upper caste supremacists) in check , I wouldn't mind supporting HIM for 2019..
 
But kudos to NaMo for this incredible comeback. If BJP had flopped, that would have been treated as a referendum on his demonetization call, and would have considerably weakened his position within the BJP. That would mean that the BJP would resort to further communalism and pseudo-nationalism to strengthen their case for 2019.

Rubbish. Sometimes I feel Indian posters do this for approval of PP posters. Communalism and riots or whatever at any stage when BJP is ruling cannot be done by BJP since it is suicidal to them.So your theory of BJP resorting to communalism when chips are down doesn't make any sense.

So RSS,ABVP ideology is regressive(which I agree actually) but congress,left,AAP,JNU idiots,communists ideologies are progressive.Who gets to decide that? You, my dear lord?
The only thing I agree with is pseudo nationalism displayed by right winger which is annoying.
 
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The Muslim Vote bank has been made totally redundant by the BJP.

If it was upto Muslims of UP, they would have continued to vote for so called secular parties like SP and BSP.

When parties like SP and BSP are called secular, the word 'secular' as it is understood in the context of Indian constitution looses its meaning. Secular as in separation of state and religion is already not applicable in India. So basically for people parties which appease minority(forget all minorities just Muslims) is secular.What a travesty!
The truth is there is no (major)secular party in India. Everyone appeases one side at the cost of neglecting(even harming) the other.
 
Rubbish. Sometimes I feel Indian posters do this for approval of PP posters. Communalism and riots or whatever at any stage when BJP is ruling cannot be done by BJP since it is suicidal to them.So your theory of BJP resorting to communalism when chips are down doesn't make any sense.

So RSS,ABVP ideology is regressive(which I agree actually) but congress,left,AAP,JNU idiots,communists ideologies are progressive.Who gets to decide that? You, my dear lord?
The only thing I agree with is pseudo nationalism displayed by right winger which is annoying.


Where did I say that their ideologies are progressive..??

I am from Kerala and I will tell you that the sudden growth of support for the RSS & Hindutva in my state is a direct reaction by disenfranchised Hindu's to the shamelessly communal politics and minority appeasement practised by the Congress since the late 70's. They went out to the point that openly religious parties like the IUML (muslim) and Kerala Congress(Christian) have had the balls to declare publicly that "we are ruling now" even while representing less than 35% of the population.

The CPIM and left parties in Kerala, which are supported by the mostly Hindus( especially lower caste Hindus , who are majority in Kerala), wanted a piece of the minority-pie as well. Confident that the Hindus would vote majorly left no matter what, they kept mum to the congress's blatant appeasement policies,even engaging in some vote bank stuff on their own, and absolutely did nothing to weed out the Arab funded extremism that has now engulfed many parts of kerala . You have already seen enough threads about the15-20 people from this state who have left to join ISIS.

From a state having the most forward minded and progressive Muslim communities(in terms of education, social development and women's rights) in the whole country till the 90's , Kerala has gone to a situation where the fundamentalism and extremist thought expressed so freely in the public domain and social media will put even the Taliban to shame..

Scores of liberal/moderate hindus in my state had been voting/supporting the BJP since the last 5 years as they had gotten tired of the two party system here. Hoping for a party that can reinvorgate this state's development and reduce corruption.

But the growing support for BJP is seen by a vocal majority of Hindutva-supporters as a rejection of Kerala's social fabric and socialist history, which are the reason for our exceptional human development when compared to the rest of India.

Now we have the BJP leaders and RSS motor-mouths matching the brainwashed mullahs, toe-to -toe for extremist opinions. Our festivals, cultural events and cinema which have been surprisingly secular since their inception (Unlike most of India) are now being torn apart by the Hindutva-vadi's. Things have recently hit a record low recently. Many Muslim/Christian writers, poets, directors etc were being witch hunted for having an opinion against the BJP(AKA Anti- nationalist LOL). You even saw a BJP funded New's channel, while reviewing a new movie, complained that "The movie doesn't show even one Temple, it focuses only on a church" !!:facepalm::facepalm:http://onlookersmedia.in/latestnews/janam-tv-review-labels-angamaly-diaries-christian-movie-social-media-flooded-series-trolls/

WE DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS !..

Religious extremism can't be solved by even more extremist polarisation on the other side !

Apart from piggybacking on Modi's immense popularity in this state, the local BJP leadership has acheived nothing of note here, and whenever questioned over this, raises the kind of rhetoric that only works in UP or Nagpur.. Instead of putting the money where the mouth is they continue to attack our unique food habits (Beef for example) and have succesfully strengthened caste prejudices .This has only strengthened the old age views of the sangh as a Bhramanical ideology , which explains the extreme opposition to the BJP here !

These are the reasons that lead to my opinion on the BJP in my previous posts. Not that I think the others are any better ! But the BJP has the electoral power and support to make so much happen in this country ! The have a clean and focussed pro-active leader, very little history of organised corruption unlike the congress, but all they do is play the Hindutva card, which frankly is not our No . 1 problem..
 
So RSS,ABVP ideology is regressive(which I agree actually) but congress,left,AAP,JNU idiots,communists ideologies are progressive.Who gets to decide that? You, my dear lord?
The only thing I agree with is pseudo nationalism displayed by right winger which is annoying.

Its Western ideology. Globalism = Progressive, Nationalism = Regressive. Its why desis love the left abroad while being brave patriots back home. The left with their globalism ideology are more open to immigration.
 
Ironically in 2014 elections BJP gave tickets to several muslim candidates in UP's muslim majority areas but still lost becoz Muslim vote had already been captured by BSP & SP.

In 2017 they gave tickets to Hindu candidates & won becoz the muslim vote was split between BSP & SP; while the Hindu voters voted for BJP.
 
Check the election comission of india's website.places like deoband,ferozabad etc where there is significant muslim vote there has been clear split of vote.and muslim women voting fr bjp is like hindu women voting fr hafiz saeed.i cud hsve put here the statement of one bjp leader yogi adityanath who has massive following in up and may well be the cm of up,on dead muslim women.it is so shameful i wont post ot here.so that answers

U r right that Muslim vote has split,The master stroke was sp giving 105 seats to Congress and bsp fielding 100 Muslim candidates, but the biggest surprise element was bjp raising triple talaq issue, Hafiz was the brain behind 26/11 can u say the same about yogi adityanath ,it's the counter polarisation and Muslim women votes that has worked massively for bjp, if he does erases the triple talaq and brings UCC and actually does bring peace and development there ,might very well be the end of regional politics.
 
Muslims voting for bjp are like the Muslims voting for trump.... it will soon come round to bite them...

It's a masterstroke, doing what is least expected from them. If they voted for Hilary it would be the same-old and they would be discriminated anyway - but they're trying the lottery option by forming a sizeable votebank for Trump which has to be appeased so he can garner their votes again next time around as well.
 
Can anyone explain what is happening in Manipur? How did BJP with 21 seats get the first invite to form government?
 
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