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New Zealand [300/5] defeat India [296/7] to win 3rd ODI by 5 wkts & whitewash India by a 3-0 margin

Congrats KL Rahul on his 100. When was the last time a middle order batsman scored a 100 for India? I mean lower middle order. Must be a long time ago.
 
Par score on this ground is 400...but we haven't yet reached 300 even....

btw I think Kohli's downfall started .....he should very soon give up the captaincy and if possible retire....that will do a mountain of good for Indian cricket
 
#ThankYouKohli for your services to Indian cricket ....Request you to kindly retire...

Kohli Sastri Dhoni....we lost many ICC trophies in the past 3 years because of this trio
 
Kohli is finally losing his touch in ODIs. Haven't seen a dominant performance by him in a long time now. That translates directly to India's decline in ODIs.
 
KL Rahul has owned the no.5 spot now. Good inning from M Pandey as well. Once Pandya is back at 7, the hitting power will be fixed.
 
India's top 7 for the next few yrs looking like ..

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Iyer
Shaw
Rahul
Hadik

Has the middle order problem been fixed ..Thoughts?
 
India's top order is no longer the force it was, they used to score 320+ regardless of the bowling or pitch a few years ago.

They are missing their openers. Still winning alot of games so nothing to worry about and kohli and Sharma smashed it last year. They just beat West indies and Aussies at home. To say a few years ago is abit far fetched. It's their middle and lower order that was stopping them from getting them a great total but still been putting up decent totals.
 
India's top 7 for the next few yrs looking like ..

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Iyer
Shaw
Rahul
Hadik

Has the middle order problem been fixed ..Thoughts?

Shaw will be the backup opener option.

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Iyer
Rahul( wkt)
Pandey/Pant
H Pandya

Jadeja a backup option for Pandya, Shaw and Agarwal backup opener option, Pant backup wicket keeper. No sixth bowling option but that's the best India have.
 
I think Dhawan is in decline, as his Kohli. Rohit is still beastly.

Anyways, India needs to find a replacement soon. Rohit and Dhawan won't be here for long.

Dhawan is still very good in ODIs. He shouldn't be playing T20s though. And Rohit is still at his peak.
 
Dhawan is still very good in ODIs. He shouldn't be playing T20s though. And Rohit is still at his peak.

You're right, he's pretty average in bilaterals these days though.

I am more worried about Kohli. The stats might not show but he's nowhere as impactful as he was before imo.
 
Dhawan is still very good in ODIs. He shouldn't be playing T20s though. And Rohit is still at his peak.

India has no worries for now. I wouldn't say they are in a decline no way. Plenty of bench strength for batting. Bowling might struggle if bumrahs recent form continues. Kulcha pair have also been struggling recently. Maybe just a minor blip.
 
India did well today despite losing early wickets. But Clown should hand over the captaincy to Rohit or Rahul. It's about time.
 
Kohli will use his fake aggression to bring him back to form iN tests :) So far not seen any fake aggression in this ODi series.
 
Hopefully ODI team looks like this in future
Rohit
Dhawan/Shaw
Kohli
Iyer
Rahul
Pandey/Gill
Pandya
Shami
Saini/Bhuvaneshwar
Kuldeep
Bumrah
 
shaw
gill
kohli
iyer or jaiswal
Rahul
pant
pandya
gowtham future jadeja
saini
bunrah
tyagi


future india. Going to be a beast team.
 
India has no worries for now. I wouldn't say they are in a decline no way. Plenty of bench strength for batting. Bowling might struggle if bumrahs recent form continues. Kulcha pair have also been struggling recently. Maybe just a minor blip.

Yeah, bowling seems a slight worry. Bumrah is our core but he only had one bad day in ODIs, he bowled very well in first ODI match. He will be good and hopefully back in tests but the problem is KulCha. Also, Saini should be preferred over Thakur.
 
I think Indians got carried away with close wins in T20 series (2 super overs). Let's hope this doesn't rub on Test Series! This is the best time to win a test series in NZ (if Indians recollect their strengths in Test of late). One should not forget that it was the bowling which was winning most matches for India and not just batting. Bowling has really gone down on this tour!
 
Finally middle order for India looks a bit settled.
Once Rohit and Dhawan are back they'll be very difficult to beat.
Bumrah's form post injury is a concern though
 
Few things are settled. Agarwal is not ODI material. Jadeja, chahal, thakur, kuldeep exposed. Kedar is a wasted spot. Saini is ok. Bumrah looking toothless, should not have been played till tests. Looks like first white wash is on the cards for India. Why was Gill not picked is a mystery .

And finally Kohli can never win a trophy with favoritism and brainless selections+strategies.
 
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No. Rana is a older guy. You are talking about someone else. He is playing Ranji. In this season he chased 350 plus in 4th innings with aggressive 100.

It was Ntish Rana who was caught for age fudging. As far i know he hasnt been banned yet.
 
The same NZ fans who were dismissing the T20 whitewash because these are meaningless matches, and they beat India when it mattered are now celebrating.

Just goes to show the ridiculous lengths people go to in order to excuse the defeats of their teams.
 
The same NZ fans who were dismissing the T20 whitewash because these are meaningless matches, and they beat India when it mattered are now celebrating.

Just goes to show the ridiculous lengths people go to in order to excuse the defeats of their teams.

Ahaha sour grapes for you. India got extremely lucky in the last 3 t20s but they are a way better team in odis than t20s. You’ve been rammed hard this time take a deep breath because there are more Ls coming your way .
 
The same NZ fans who were dismissing the T20 whitewash because these are meaningless matches, and they beat India when it mattered are now celebrating.

Just goes to show the ridiculous lengths people go to in order to excuse the defeats of their teams.

I know you are likely refering to the other NZ fan but personally i have never cared a great deal about T20 cricket. I was still very annoyed with the manner of the loses as was the majority of the NZ public who follow cricket.
 
This will be over by 40-42 overs, it is on the on par with the shameful ODI defeat in the 1st ODi in Aus series.

Bharat( trash bowling coach) genius Arun also exposed.
 
This will be over by 40-42 overs, it is on the on par with the shameful ODI defeat in the 1st ODi in Aus series.

Bharat( trash bowling coach) genius Arun also exposed.

Still need 191 runs required, long way to go.
 
This will be over by 40-42 overs, it is on the on par with the shameful ODI defeat in the 1st ODi in Aus series.

Bharat( trash bowling coach) genius Arun also exposed.

This is much more shameful, India has not been Whitewashed in ODI for over 30 years. This is massive humiliation.
 
This is much more shameful, India has not been Whitewashed in ODI for over 30 years. This is massive humiliation.

A fact that is established - this ODI is very ordinary with so many non-performers. The corrections starting with stripping kohli's captaincy should start now at least. bharat arun & sridhar to give their "valuable services" to some IPL or Ranji team not the International one. Make Rohit the ODI captain, in his absence give it to Rahul or bumrah. This is enough.
 
Jadeja is massively economical in this era where a economy rate of 5 can be considered very good. He is a better bowling option than Pandya.
 
Amazing that Kiwis have won the series already without Boult, Ferguson and even Milne. Alot of bench strength there.
 
When I see kohli's captaincy, I can't help remember the famous Tv show star Trek's phrase "where no man (read Indian captain) has ever gone before".

It was a great win in Aus test series and shameful defeat in NZ ODIs & that 10 wicket defeat vs Auz in India. Extremes are what one Indian cricket fan gets.
 
What has happend to Bumrah? He has played alot of cricket after the injury already so we can rule out that factor. So what is the issue?
 
What has happend to Bumrah? He has played alot of cricket after the injury already so we can rule out that factor. So what is the issue?

He's been struggling to land his yorkers, for some reason.
 
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