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New Zealand (346/5) comprehensively defeat Pakistan (345/5) by 5 wickets in their first warm-up game in the ICC World Cup 2023

You cannot play “attacking fearless” cricket with Imam and Shafique as your openers lol.

Replace one of those with Haris from reserves and it changes the entire look of the team.
 
Why y'all complaining about strike rates It's a warm up and they haven't ever played on an Indian wicket .

Let them get used to it.

They are not even trying to change something in their approach.

This is how they bat irrespective of warm ups.

You need to see our team more often.
 
By the way there is lots of spin there..Rizwan just got beat all ends up and the one to Abdullah Spun too
 
Awful cricket so far apart from a few Babar boundaries through the offside.

Where is Boult , Ferguson or Southee
 
Awful cricket so far apart from a few Babar boundaries through the offside.

Where is Boult , Ferguson or Southee

Why do they need Boult or Ferguson when our team is playing a test match vs Philips, Santner, Rachin and Sodhi.
 
Very timid and defensive batting from Pakistan. Not a single aggressive looking shot. They are so confined in their old school approach. I don't see them going far unless they change this ridiculous approach. India would have scored 100 already against this mediocre bowling.
 
Pakistan desperately need to bring in Saim Ayub and Mohammad Haris into the squad.

Abdullah and Saud are stuck in the 70s.
 
Pakistan desperately need to bring in Saim Ayub and Mohammad Haris into the squad.

Abdullah and Saud are stuck in the 70s.
Too early to call them next Anwar and Aijaz, let them play proper cricket first rather than over emphasising on 3rd grade leagues.
 
They are not even trying to change something in their approach.

This is how they bat irrespective of warm ups.

You need to see our team more often.
I have seen your ODI batting . It was impressive at Lahore and Rawalpindi while chasing 350 odd etc.

I think people just think that ODI wickets all over South Asia are similar to Lahore and Rawalpindi .

They're not. Pakistani wickets are the most placid. They may not be as fast scoring as certain Indian venues . But it is harder to get set batters dismissed unless the batter makes the error.

This is not true in SL and India where there is some wicket taking threat throughout.
 
Too early to call them next Anwar and Aijaz, let them play proper cricket first rather than over emphasising on 3rd grade leagues.

I am inclined to agree with you but have Abdullah and Shakeel even impressed in 3rd grade leagues? NO.
 
I am inclined to agree with you but have Abdullah and Shakeel even impressed in 3rd grade leagues? NO.
Both have been part of domestic circuit for years now and has experience to handle pressure at bigger stage. I am not ruling Ayub and co out, they are future assets, but their time will come soon. Rushing them into the crisis could be dangerous for their career.
 
The general idea of warmups is for batsmen to practice as much as possible and get some runs on the board. For bowlers though it is mainly shuffling around and trying everyone the way NZ is doing. So overall, I do not see any issue with Pak batting lineup.
Whoever scores good runs today should rest in next warmup with Fakhar coming as well giving all 3 openers the opportunity to bat up the order (Top 3).
 
It's just a warm up and the Babar/Rizwan haters association are here early to spoil the thread....

I'm hoping against hope that this won't be the case throughout the tournament.
Huge lobby working against Pak team at the moment, was watching a live session between Avinash Aryan and Shoaib Jutt yesterday and it was pretty disappointing and embarrassing as a cricket fan.
 
Pakistan looking ordinary so far

Babar has only taken a liking to Neesham and Rizwan picking on Ravindra
 
It's just a warm up and the Babar/Rizwan haters association are here early to spoil the thread....

I'm hoping against hope that this won't be the case throughout the tournament.
It will be on cricketing basis
 
Straight away the Indian commentator questioned Rizwan’s batting position. They obviously know their conditions
 
The general idea of warmups is for batsmen to practice as much as possible and get some runs on the board. For bowlers though it is mainly shuffling around and trying everyone the way NZ is doing. So overall, I do not see any issue with Pak batting lineup.
Whoever scores good runs today should rest in next warmup with Fakhar coming as well giving all 3 openers the opportunity to bat up the order (Top 3).
But but but we are not scoring runs in warm up matches.
 
It's just a warm up and the Babar/Rizwan haters association are here early to spoil the thread....

I'm hoping against hope that this won't be the case throughout the tournament.
Keep hoping against hope, my friend.

People here want Babar and his friends to somehow score minus 100 in warmups and in matches with associate nations and then score a triple century against India to make up for it. I will never understand what the expectations of the team area.
 
Both have been part of domestic circuit for years now and has experience to handle pressure at bigger stage. I am not ruling Ayub and co out, they are future assets, but their time will come soon. Rushing them into the crisis could be dangerous for their career.

Bro I am merely saying that Abdullah or Saud have not done much either. So, according to the same standards, it only makes sense that Saim and Haris were selected has they have done better in the limited domestic cricketer they have played.
 
Shafique and Imam opening

Might have lost the game already in the first 5 overs
 
It is a warm up match and not even an official ODI or List A game. It is basically a net session with an opposition and out in the middle so key should be to spend some time in the middle and get an idea of how pitches / conditions are behaving in a middle practice against another team. But it is hilarious to see some of the reactions - if we had been 109 for 0 they would have been moaning that Imam hasn't retired.
 
As an aside, we utterly tonked and smashed South Africa in a warm up game before the 2007 world cup - and we all know what happened next!
 
Bro I am merely saying that Abdullah or Saud have not done much either. So, according to the same standards, it only makes sense that Saim and Haris were selected has they have done better in the limited domestic cricketer they have played.
Correct. Abdullah and Saud are poor selections with no logic
 
Pak hoping to drag teams to there level & go at 3.5 rpo not knowing Eng scored 100 in 8 overs the other day.
 
Pak hoping to drag teams to there level & go at 3.5 rpo not knowing Eng scored 100 in 8 overs the other day.
I mean with Abdullah and imam opening that'll never happen, even if we are playing against Japan cricket team
 
Pak hoping to drag teams to there level & go at 3.5 rpo not knowing Eng scored 100 in 8 overs the other day.
Bro dont ruin it for fans.

They think Pakistan will go at 7-8 an over during the real deal.
 
Correct. Abdullah and Saud are poor selections with no logic

You have said it perfectly. It completely lacks logic. It’s as if Pakistan have not been preparing for this WC at all because both these players are essentially playing their first few ODI games.

There are much better prospects in Saim Ayub and Mohammad Haris or even Azam Khan who have done far better in domestic cricket.

I am actually appalled.
 
Unfortunately this will be the pattern for pakistan in the wc. With this batting line up the ceiling will be 250-275 which will not win us many matches.
 
Current Pakistan team is Misbah 2.0 team but bit more inferior. There not a single power hitter, no class spinner, poor fielding... This team plays same way with similar script which they played 4 years back. Too predictable and one dimensional. It doesn't help they announce the playing team earlier (We are no Aussie team back in 2000s)
 
Correct. Abdullah and Saud are poor selections with no logic
Had they not been selected, same fans would have marched towards minar-e-pakistan to protest against Babar. For us those who are not in squad are world beaters, the moment they are selected for national side, they become parchi and friends 11.
 
Current Pakistan team is Misbah 2.0 team but bit more inferior. There not a single power hitter, no class spinner, poor fielding... This team plays same way with similar script which they played 4 years back. Too predictable and one dimensional. It doesn't help they announce the playing team earlier (We are no Aussie team back in 2000s)
Naw not really, our 2013 ct team and our 2015 wc team was still weaker.

But this current team is defo a massive step down from our 2017-2019 team.
 
I don't believe in assumptions and baseless rhetorics.
But you managed to outwit yourself by claiming that Sri Lanka were doing better because the opposition was Bangladesh.

Either back your claims or dont put out deluded statements.
 
Had they not been selected, same fans would have marched towards minar-e-pakistan to protest against Babar. For us those who are not in squad are world beaters, the moment they are selected for national side, they become parchi and friends 11.
I still back Abdullah and saud. I even back tayyab.

I wanted saim ayub + Abdullah + Tayyab + Saud + Haris + imad waseem to all be groomed with babar and chacha chipping in.

Accumulators + strikers are needed in modern odi cricket.

Problem is everyone is am Accumulator and discounted bootleg version of Babar lol.
 
I still back Abdullah and saud. I even back tayyab.

I wanted saim ayub + Abdullah + Tayyab + Saud + Haris + imad waseem to all be groomed with babar and chacha chipping in.

Accumulators + strikers are needed in modern odi cricket.

Problem is everyone is am Accumulator and discounted bootleg version of Babar lol.
But what you want cant be trialled at World Cup.

You want sweeping changes? Agreed.

But this should happen vs Netherlands and Hong Kong and Asia Cups and bilaterals.

NO team in the world goes into World Cup bringing 5 or 6 rookies and expect to win (not saying this team will fare any better).

What you want isnt realistic.

Not for a major tournament anyways.
 
But what you want cant be trialled at World Cup.

You want sweeping changes? Agreed.

But this should happen vs Netherlands and Hong Kong and Asia Cups and bilaterals.

NO team in the world goes into World Cup bringing 5 or 6 rookies and expect to win (not saying this team will fare any better).

What you want isnt realistic.

Not for a major tournament anyways.
I'm not saying I want them for this world cup. Obviously due to poor planning this world cup is lost cause lol.

If you've read my past posts I've talked about grooming these lads.

Obviously playing them in conjuction now is suicide. Makes me wonder why these lads were even selected in the first place. Maybe they were good at being water boys.
 
I still back Abdullah and saud. I even back tayyab.

I wanted saim ayub + Abdullah + Tayyab + Saud + Haris + imad waseem to all be groomed with babar and chacha chipping in.

Accumulators + strikers are needed in modern odi cricket.

Problem is everyone is am Accumulator and discounted bootleg version of Babar lol.
Saim will surely play, world is not going to end after this WC. Haris is already in team and so is Tayyab. Imad waseem has awful bowling record in ODIs, so always better to pick Nawaz when you need 5th bowler.
 
Saim will surely play, world is not going to end after this WC. Haris is already in team and so is Tayyab. Imad waseem has awful bowling record in ODIs, so always better to pick Nawaz when you need 5th bowler.
Tayyab isn't in the team, he was given a boot unfairly because he didn't even play a single game.

Imad waseem over shadab not nawaz. Usama mir over nawaz yes.

Both shadab and imad aren't great bowlers but imad is vastly superior to current shadab who isn't even minnow Nepal Level in terms of bowling and imad is a far far far superior bat to shadab.
 
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