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New Zealand v India | 1st Test | Auckland | Day 3 | 8 February 2014

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India have a good chance of winning here , they bowled really well in the second essay.
 
Wrongun from Shodi but missing leg,

Night people good day!
 
thank god fat umpire didn't give out this time....against india he has given couple of bad decesions
 
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India 87/1.

Would have been great if Vijay also survived that close call.

Its 70-30 in favor of NZ at this moment.

India should bat the whole of 1st session tomorrow without losing a wicket to have any chance of winning the Test.

One thing is for sure, there will be a result.
 
first session is crucial tomorrow. if india somehow don't loose any more wickets and dhawan stays then we can chase this score
 
Ish needs to bowl the wrongun more often to Pujara, hopefully second new ball will swing.
 
It won't go much past lunch tomorrow, IMO. End of day today, India flattering to deceive.
 
India have only got this far because the ball has not swung an inch.

No surprises to see the hack closing in on 50, nothing more than a FTB.
 
Very good start from India. Still 9 wickets in the sheds, Dhawan back in some type of form, and Pujara to support him at the crease with Kohli, Nohit and Rahane still to come. If Pujara can stick around with Kohli for most of the day tomorrow it should be game on. I think India will be very pleased with themselves which is ironic given they are still 320 behind, while NZ will be very nervous despite having such a huge lead.

Enzed still faves at this point. They look pretty comfortable scoring 87 in 25 overs, but the stark reality is that India have to score 320 runs and probably have to bat an additional 100 - 120 overs to do that. How the ball behaves tomorrow will be crucial, as will the mindset that these batsmen will have. Dhawan was very shaky early on but as he spent more time at the crease he regained his fluency. As for Pujara I think he's set himself to bat through most of the day tomorrow. But tomorrow they start again on nought basically, they have to play themselves in again.

Enzed really missed a trick today, to fold for 105 on a wicket that the Indians have scored 87 for the loss of 1 wicket, that one a nothing ball down the legside, was very ordinary. Really spoke to their mental state - given they must have discussed batting on vs enforcing the follow on as a possibility the night before, the whole team looked like it was a slapdash decision that nobody knew how to execute. I said all day today that the demons were in the minds not the wicket. With the beauty of hindsight Macca's decision to bat again looks terrible but I still think the logic being batting on was right - give the quicks a rest, pile on more runs, plenty of time to bowl them out - they made a meal out of it though and had some woeful execution. There's no excuse for getting bowled out for 100 on a wicket like that.

The only argument I would accept for enforcing the follow on was that the Indians were on their knees at that point and it's possible they would have run through them again given the momentum they had. But you'd have to think that this Indian batting lineup would not make the same mistake twice. In any case they made a total meal of their second innings, surrendered the initiative and momentum to India and now face a fight to win the Test. Partly inexperience at being in such a dominant position, they didn't quite know how to drive home their advantage and lack of a killer instinct.

In any case there's no point dwelling over the decision, though if NZ lose it may take on the same infamy as Nasser Hussain sending in Australia to bat at the Gabba in 2002 or Ponting bowling first at Edgebaston in 2005. Macca may yet end up being in the unique position of being Man of the Match for both teams - for NZ for his 224 in the first innings and for India for running himself out in the second innings. Hero to zero in the same Test.

But it's game on tomorrow. NZ with the edge but with NZ you never know. And which India will turn up tomorrow? I feel like after the afternoon and evening sessions tonight all three results are now possible.
 
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I wonder how a loss from such a strong position will go down, at least theres 9's on next week.

Sell out at Eden Park.
 
Just opened this thread and see no trolls in the last 2 pages, a testimony India playing well.
Some of the comments in first few pages are hilarious to say the least. :))

Coming to this game a great test match...great come back by India. Need to maintain the momentum tomorrow.
 
Moosa said:
Just opened this thread and see no trolls in the last 2 pages, a testimony India playing well.
Some of the comments in first few pages are hilarious to say the least. :))

Coming to this game a great test match...great come back by India. Need to maintain the momentum tomorrow.
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You missed out on a very good day. For a neutral at least.
 
To be fair we played more poorly than India played 'well'.

Shami was on fire the rest was on the fielding we gifted the other bowlers wickets.
 
Aman said:
To be fair we played more poorly than India played 'well'.

Shami was on fire the rest was on the fielding we gifted the other bowlers wickets.
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Yea this was mostly self inflicted. Some excellent fielding but most of the dismissals were either poor shot selection or poor execution, brought about by poor mindset. But sometimes all you need is a sniff.
 
Kiwis will need early wickets , still 300 plus runs to play with . In these kind of chases , if you get one or two quick wickets you back in the game as a bowling side.
 
Sam18696 said:
How did NZ collapse? :98:
India actually have a chance of winning here.
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Don't be disillusioned by the scorecard, there has only been one team making all the plays :hadlee

Can't believe we played so poorly after getting into a near unlosable position...
 
India has done the hardwork, Need good solid start tomorrow.


Energetic said:
So, a country of around 5 million dominating a country of 1.2 billion
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As dumb a comment as ever it can be.
The countries are not going in for a war.
 
OZGOD said:
Yea this was mostly self inflicted. Some excellent fielding but most of the dismissals were either poor shot selection or poor execution, brought about by poor mindset. But sometimes all you need is a sniff.
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Now you know why no one follows this team, they're just too inconsistent. They'll never be able to match the AB's, something they have to do if they're to gain popularity in NZ they added some fans during the ODI's but who knows how many they may lose after a loss like this.
 
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Stark said:
As dumb a comment as ever it can be.
The countries are not going in for a war.
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and finally he decided to post something other than complaining about crowd in tests. 80% of his posts in this forum are complaining about crowd.
 
Lol. Are some people in here hoping that India would chase 400+?? :dav

Game should be finished by 3rd session tomorrow
 
HazTheGreenKnightRises said:
Lol. Are some people in here hoping that India would chase 400+?? :dav

Game should be finished by 3rd session tomorrow
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It's pretty even since there's no swing, we'd be well ahead if there was some movement but sadly there's none. We'll need one of our bowlers to step up tomorrow and pick up 2-3 quick to seal it.
 
Strike Rate said:
and finally he decided to post something other than complaining about crowd in tests. 80% of his posts in this forum are complaining about crowd.
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You do realize that your post is making it look like as if i was the one ranting about the crowd.. :)
 
@Kiwi fans, if we lose this, which Eden Park performance will be worse - this one or the one against England?
 
Aman said:
@Kiwi fans, if we lose this, which Eden Park performance will be worse - this one or the one against England?
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England one because there is no shame in losing against Ranked 2 side. :)
 
Anyways if you do win it'll just be another win the opposition gifted to you :))

Must be nice having a psychological advantage going into every game.

But I guess that's our problem for letting such things get to us.
 
Aman said:
It's pretty even since there's no swing, we'd be well ahead if there was some movement but sadly there's none. We'll need one of our bowlers to step up tomorrow and pick up 2-3 quick to seal it.
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Nothing for the bowlers?/ So what did just happened in the morning ??
 
Aman said:
It already is, we batted like headless chicken in our second innings, at least we know Rutherford and Fulton aren't cut out for international cricket now.
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Isn't Rutherford the guy who was taking apart the England bowlers last summer?
 
Aman said:
Anyways if you do win it'll just be another win the opposition gifted to you :))

Must be nice having a psychological advantage going into every game.

But I guess that's our problem for letting such things get to us.
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Whatever please you sir. As a matter of fact India never won a game on his own. Opposition always gift us matches...seldom we won anything on our credit. :)

83 WC final - Viv choked and top edged the ball. Kapil's running catch was not note worthy.

07 T20 WC - Misbah choked...India was lucky.

11 WC final - Fixed anyway.

13 CT - England choked

No.1 test ranking - Quality of other teams were poor

Basically Chokers have an agenda when they play against India

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Moosa said:
Whatever please you sir. As a matter of fact India never won a game on his own. Opposition always gift us matches...seldom we won anything on our credit. :)

83 WC final - Viv choked and top edged the ball. Kapil's running catch was not note worthy.

07 T20 WC - Misbah choked...India was lucky.

11 WC final - Fixed anyway.

13 CT - England choked

No.1 test ranking - Quality of other teams were poor

Basically Chokers have an agenda when they play against India

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Must be sad having only one sport to cling your hopes to, any shot to any achievements must be a like a shot to the heart.
 
Aman said:
Anyways if you do win it'll just be another win the opposition gifted to you

Must be nice having a psychological advantage going into every game.
But I guess that's our problem for letting such things get to us.
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4th inns of a Test match, chasing 400+.. Still 300+ left..
And you are talking about gifting the game?

Just goes to show how sharp you really are.
 
When Indians do not swing ball and Kiwis butcher them, Kiwis batsmen are great.

When Kiwis do not swing the ball and Indian batsmen dominate them, then Batsmen are FTB's.

Face it haters, When the ball is swinging and moving, your batsmen are no better than ours.

When McCullum, Anderson were butchering our trundlers, the ball was not swinging at all. So they must be FTB's too.
 
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Aman said:
Must be sad having only one sport to cling your hopes to, any shot to any achievements must be a like a shot to the heart.
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Wrestling, Shooting, Boxing mein medals aapke uncle le ke aa rahe hain?
 
Stark said:
4th inns of a Test match, chasing 400+.. Still 300+ left..
And you are talking about gifting the game?

Just goes to show how sharp you really are.
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McCullum has put you into this position, what have India done to get back into the game? Please tell me.
 
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mithun_minhas said:
When Indians does not swing ball and Kiwis butcher them, Kiwis batsmen are great.

When Kiwis do not swing the ball and Indian batsmen dominate them, then Batsmen are FTB's.

Face it haters, When the ball is swinging and moving, your batsmen are no better than ours.

When McCullum, Anderson were butchering our trundlers, the ball was not swinging at all. So they must be FTB's too.
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Ball was swing early on, we didn't get any swing from the first ball of the 4th innings...

India had the best of the conditions and still conceded 500+

Just admit it boys, we brought you back into this one.
 
aman said:
mccullum has put into into this position, what have india done to get back into the game? Please tell me.
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i clearly asked that if a team is chasing 400+, you really think that ll be gifting the game?
 
Anyway Indian fans - this match is still highly in favor of Kiwis.
I don't see India chasing this target.
 
Stark said:
i clearly asked that if a team is chasing 400+, you really think that ll be gifting the game?
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Gifting the game is when you have a lead of 301 then you go on and get dismissed for paltry 100 against one good bowler and 2 trundlers.
 
Aman said:
Ball was swing early on, we didn't get any swing from the first ball of the 4th innings...

India had the best of the conditions and still conceded 500+

Just admit it boys, we brought you back into this one.
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Sorry, New ball did its trick for about an hour and we had you at 30/3 and NZ were looking listless.

Once the ball stopped moving and swinging, NZ batsmen feasted on our bowlers.

Now Indian batsmen are doing the same.

How did the ball move and swing when Indians were bowling? Just 10 mins later, your guys bowled and nothing happened.

This means in 10mins the pitch became flat.

NZ batsmen are no better than Indian batsmen when the ball moves. You guys are lucky that Indian trundlers do not have the talent to use the conditions well. The ODI series proved it.
 
mithun_minhas said:
Sorry, New ball did its trick for about an hour and we had you at 30/3 and NZ were looking listless.

Once the ball stopped moving and swinging, NZ batsmen feasted on our bowlers.

Now Indian batsmen are doing the same.

How did the ball move and swing when Indians were bowling? Just 10 mins later, your guys bowled and nothing happened.

This means in 10mins the pitch became flat.

NZ batsmen are no better than Indian batsmen when the ball moves. You guys are lucky that Indian trundlers do not have the talent to use the conditions well. The ODI series proved it.
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I agree but the bad batch of balls struck, if we had a decent ball which would swing I have no doubt we'd be closing in on a win. The third innings as OZGOD was self inflicted, we just crumbled under pressure.
 
I am just happy that Indian bowlers had a good day and at least made a match out of it from a hopeless situation.

Kiwis are still in driving seat. Indian batsmen need to pull off a miracle to win this one.

I expect the ball to swing again in the morning and watch NZ bowlers look like world beaters and Indian batsmen will be called FTB's left and right.
 
shami bowled brilliantly in both innings...deserved more wickets than what the scorecard shows
 
Marshland said:
What bad batch of balls?
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A few balls don't swing or seam as they fall apart and lose their shape quite easily, commies have mentioned it a few times and the ball was later replaced because it lost its shape late in the day.
 
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And no, no commentator mentioned anything of the sort. At least put your hand up and claim that you're the perpetrator of such stories, instead of diverting attention to a vague commentator who may or may not have spoken about the issue among the thousands of things they touched upon during the day's play.
 
Marshland said:
And no, no commentator mentioned anything of the sort. At least put your hand up and claim that you're the perpetrator of such stories, instead of diverting attention to a vague commentator who may or may not have spoken about the issue among the thousands of things they touched upon during the day's play.
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When did you start watching? They mentioned it quite a few times over the summer.. No need to make it personal like you always do.
 
By the way, the Kookaburras are the best balls around. Not a fan of the SGs and Dukes personally but they seem to work well in the Northern climes.

Also tried that new Tiflex ball summer before last, that was pretty good as well.
 
Marshland said:
By the way, the Kookaburras are the best balls around. Not a fan of the SGs and Dukes personally but they seem to work well in the Northern climes.

Also tried that new Tiflex ball summer before last, that was pretty good as well.
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Yep the Kookaburras are the best around, the English can't get them to move either.

Was handy when they last toured, Trott was getting the ball to move more than skillful Jimmy :))
 
Moosa said:
Anyway Indian fans - this match is still highly in favor of Kiwis.
I don't see India chasing this target.
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I will say its 55-45 in Kiwi's favor, Indian batsmen have the potential to chase the total.
 
ali2220 said:
I will say its 55-45 in Kiwi's favor, Indian batsmen have the potential to chase the total.
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It is still 75-25 in favor of NZ.

If India do not lose any wickets by lunch, then I call it 55-45 in India's favor.

Its still Kiwis game to lose. Their bowlers are more talented then Indian trundlers. I am sure they will figure out something and come out aggressively tomorrow.
 
Aman said:
Yep the Kookaburras are the best around, the English can't get them to move either.

Was handy when they last toured, Trott was getting the ball to move more than skillful Jimmy :))
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England aren't the gold standard for anything, more so when they step out of their gloomy stadia and doctored pitches. Anderson is the most overrated seamer going around.

ali2220 said:
I will say its 55-45 in Kiwi's favor, Indian batsmen have the potential to chase the total.
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No they don't. A couple of wickets and we're straight back in, and they'll choke. They have only Kohli in the sheds, I don't rate Rahane/Dhoni/Rohit Sharma/Jadeja and the rest.

Okay maybe Rahane, but the others are bog average.
 
Marshland said:
England aren't the gold standard for anything, more so when they step out of their gloomy stadia and doctored pitches. Anderson is the most overrated seamer going around.
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Once more with feeling: England never doctor pitches.

The inclement weather affects them, more than anywhere else in the world. If it rains for a month you get a slow seamer. If we get a month of sun, they dry out and take spin.

BTW, England have won a test series in every country in the world since 2000.
 
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