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New Zealand v India | 1st Test | Auckland | Day 4 | 9 February 2014

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Imagine what Williamson would have done had he not been given out wrongly.
 
OZGOD said:
The hard reality is that India have failed to win an away Test again, this one against a No.8 team. The away losing streak stretches to June 2011. Hopefully this second innings performance gives India more heart. Dhawan broke his shackles finally. But India are in a contest. They need to bowl better in the first innings of the 2nd Test.
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This loss hurts fans more as India were cruising with Kohli and Dhawan smacking the ball.

Hopefully the streak ends in 2nd Test.

Kiwis deserved to win this after their effort in 1st innings.
 
I think India now believes they can compete overseas after this effort.

Dhawan back in form.
Kohli played well
Pujara missed out this Test

Nohit, Jaddu and MSD scoring some runs too.

Over all, lot of positives to take from this loss.
 
mithun_minhas said:
This loss hurts fans more as India were cruising with Kohli and Dhawan smacking the ball.

Hopefully the streak ends in 2nd Test.

Kiwis deserved to win this after their effort in 1st innings.
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Winning in Wellington will be Thought

Indian team has Poor Record there

Expecting Boult to do well There

and NL Should go with 4 Pacer,s Drop Sodhi

Indian team will be Unchanged
 
Bilal7 said:
Imagine what Williamson would have done had he not been given out wrongly.
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Why to pick n choose like this ? What would have been the situation now had Rahane not been given out LBW for inside edge (India could have very well won it)...Ignoring the other side of the coin .... Learn to be neutral , dont just take pot shot at one country just for the sake it .... :123:
 
I must say as a neutral this is one of the more entertaining Tests I've seen in a while. Imperfection leads to nailbiters. It had everything - suspense, ups and downs, one team sprints out ahead early, the other team weathers the punches and comes back strongly, leading up to a compelling last day of cricket. Outstanding innings from Macca and Kane in the first innings, then backed up by a great bowling performance from the Enzed bowlers before the Indians hit back with great bowling from Shami in particular to induce an epic collapse to roll the Hobbits for a paltry score and set the Test up for a great finish. This game really could have gone each way today, full credit to India and the maligned Dhawan and the classy Kohli to push for an unlikely victory. But there's a reason why it's hard to chase down any score over 300, let alone 400, yet they came within 40 runs of pulling it off. I think that performance will give them a lot of confidence and it sets the second Test up nicely. This series is begging for three Tests as well, shame we only have two.
 
3 consecutive Test matches , our batters showed promise but still we ended up on the other side of the coin :( Unlucky but we can take heart that our batsman like Pujara, Kohli & Rahane r coping well in alien conditions :14:
 
Justcrazy said:
I have a feeling kiwis will go with flat pitch next test
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This was a pretty flat wicket in the end anyway. Anyone who says otherwise was not actually watching it. If you follow it on Cricinfo it looks like it was a minefield but it wasn't. It was on the first day and in the mornings of each day but a lot of the dismissals were in the mind. The wicket was pretty good for batting throughout the four days. For India to score 360 on the last day shows the quality of the wicket.
 
mithun_minhas said:
This loss hurts fans more as India were cruising with Kohli and Dhawan smacking the ball.

Hopefully the streak ends in 2nd Test.

Kiwis deserved to win this after their effort in 1st innings.
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It's hard to score 400 runs in the last innings though. It's because you have to be at the wicket for such a long time. India's 2nd innings was 96 overs, that's a lot of time to play a bad shot or to get a ball with your name on it.
 
OZGOD said:
This was a pretty flat wicket in the end anyway. Anyone who says otherwise was not actually watching it. If you follow it on Cricinfo it looks like it was a minefield but it wasn't. It was on the first day and in the mornings of each day but a lot of the dismissals were in the mind. The wicket was pretty good for batting throughout the four days. For India to score 360 on the last day shows the quality of the wicket.
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4th day wicket. Dhoni getting ripped on radio for his post match mention of rahanes dismissal.
 
For me the biggest thing that India will take out of this Test will be for the bowlers knowing what length to bowl in NZ. You really need to bowl a fuller length. Dhoni said the plan was to bowl short the first innings and be aggressive. If you don't have a Mitchell Johnson that can really make the ball jump off at 140kmh+ bowling short is just asking to be hit to the boundary. I thought their first innings bowling short was a waste of time. Mix it up but you have to bowl fuller and make the batsmen drive and try and nick off.
 
jattafridi said:
India can't win the series now :)
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Considering the way we play in away conditions, a series draw will be more than welcomed by Indian fans.

Our Test team is terrible in overseas conditions and it will continue that way unless our bowlers learn to utilize those conditions well.
 
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India had the run chase under control for most of the innings and could have got over the finishing line if 1 or 2 batsmen had not played unnecessary shots. Jadeja batted well but he played one too many expansive shots (this was not a one-dayer; there were still 1.5 days left!) and perished in the process
 
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India away from home in tests since June 2011:
Played - 11
Won - 0
Drawn - 1
Lost - 10
Since the Head of BCCI ***** confirmed to be the new ICC Chairman, Expecting the following to be granted test status so only they can have away tours to countries like Uganda, Nigeria and bermuda plz dont go to kenya
 
plus a few decisions went against India...Steve Davis is arguably one of the worst umpires in international cricket right now. This is not the first time he has been so poor
 
A heart throbbing contest. I wanted India to lose more than I wanted NZ to win but the way NZ teamed up on these Indians, it has made me an NZ fan.

I am glad that India lost. Awesome game!!!
 
OZGOD said:
For me the biggest thing that India will take out of this Test will be for the bowlers knowing what length to bowl in NZ. You really need to bowl a fuller length. Dhoni said the plan was to bowl short the first innings and be aggressive. If you don't have a Mitchell Johnson that can really make the ball jump off at 140kmh+ bowling short is just asking to be hit to the boundary. I thought their first innings bowling short was a waste of time. Mix it up but you have to bowl fuller and make the batsmen drive and try and nick off.
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Ummm not sure if I fully agree with you.
The next game is on a different surface with new demons for the Indians. By the time they pick the niche of the wicket, I hope they would have lost the second test as well.


It's another story now that Big 3's Big Boss, the BCCI, starts influencing on NZ cricket board behind closed doors to concede the second test. It's quite possible because its all about money now.
 
Congrats NZ! Bmac's aggressive captaincy really made up for what I thought was a pretty poor decision not to enforce the follow-on. Well played to India as well. Great game of Test cricket. Hope Mathews and co were watching this. Playing defensive boring cricket wins you no fans!
 
NZ won the match deservedly, but only blind haters laugh at Indians.
Chasing 400+ runs away in 2nd innings is not everyday thing.
In the end better team won, but can't ignore India's efforts.
In a match facing 300+ runs deficit after 1st innings and loosing just by 40 runs is not bad effort.
 
FreeBird said:
A heart throbbing contest. I wanted India to lose more than I wanted NZ to win but the way NZ teamed up on these Indians, it has made me an NZ fan.

I am glad that India lost. Awesome game!!!
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I am an Indian and I support Pak when they play a non asian nation.

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FreeBird said:
Ummm not sure if I fully agree with you.
The next game is on a different surface with new demons for the Indians. By the time they pick the niche of the wicket, I hope they would have lost the second test as well.


It's another story now that Big 3's Big Boss, the BCCI, starts influencing on NZ cricket board behind closed doors to concede the second test. It's quite possible because its all about money now.
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I'm talking in general. Obviously it will be a different wicket but I think the Basin will be another wicket where the ball will move around early then settle down as the humidity level drops. Bowling too short in places like NZ and even more so in Australia just makes it easier for batsmen to play off the back foot, which most batsmen from this area are good at. They will cut and pull you all day.

In NZ where the ball does swing and seam depending on humidity you want them driving the ball because it's harder to hit through the line with confidence and they can nick off to the slips. If you get driven to the boundary now and then so what. That's the shot you want them to play. Especially Shami since he can move the ball around. Sharma is still bowling the same back of a length he has always bowled, even though he is now bowling 20kmh slower than he used to. He got wickets this Test when he started to pitch it up. Even though he

What India need in their bowling is a bit of variety. Zak is the left armer but his pace is down so much now. He isn't using angles at the crease as well. If you look at Wagner he used his angles at the crease much better. Shami and BK are too similar. If Ishant could get another 15-20kmh of pace to get himself into the mid 140s he would be a handful because he could be the bloke that makes the ball move vertically. Right now he's just like Shami except he doesn't move the ball.
 
As I expected India conceded too much ground in the first innings. Nearly impossible to win after conceding 300, especially playing outside home against a decent bowling side. Good effort anyways, they have finally broken the streak of gifting easy wins outside home. Pujara had an off test, but since Dhawan made up for it, I think India came up with the best they are capable of, in these conditions.
 
OZGOD said:
For me the biggest thing that India will take out of this Test will be for the bowlers knowing what length to bowl in NZ. You really need to bowl a fuller length. Dhoni said the plan was to bowl short the first innings and be aggressive. If you don't have a Mitchell Johnson that can really make the ball jump off at 140kmh+ bowling short is just asking to be hit to the boundary. I thought their first innings bowling short was a waste of time. Mix it up but you have to bowl fuller and make the batsmen drive and try and nick off.
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Issue is not knowing where to bowl issue is how to bowl it. They can't bowl at same spot twice in an over.. how can they contentiously hit the consistent areas?

Drop Sharma and get Kumar in at least he has pace but they won't drop Sharma now cuz he took 6 wickets in the first innings.
 
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Anfield said:
Issue is not knowing where to ball issue is how to ball it. They can't bowl at same spot twice in an over.. how can they contentiously hit the consistent areas?

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Yea that's it lol. What they should do in training is put a handkerchief on the wicket and try and hit it over and over again. If you can't hit it consistently, NO DINNER FOR YOU! :D
 
Anfield said:
Issue is not knowing where to ball issue is how to ball it. They can't bowl at same spot twice in an over.. how can they contentiously hit the consistent areas?

Drop Sharma and get Kumar in at least he has pace but they won't drop Sharma now cuz he took 6 wickets in the first innings.
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May be they don't train hard enough?
 
IndianWillow said:
May be they don't train hard enough?
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I remember a year or so back Gavaskar was saying that Indian bowlers don't bowl enough overs in the net and they don't bowl with the same intensity either. He was saying if you're not going to put your all in the nets how can you expect them to put up a better show in the match?
 
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Hell of a test match but indians hoping for a change in away form must be gutted that they didn't get home today, 4 tough away test series this year but with SA already lost and aus/eng coming up after this really was the series they had to win.
 
sada90 said:
India away from home in tests since June 2011:
Played - 11
Won - 0
Drawn - 1
Lost - 10
Since the Head of BCCI ***** confirmed to be the new ICC Chairman, Expecting the following to be granted test status so only they can have away tours to countries like Uganda, Nigeria and bermuda plz dont go to kenya
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Lol, were one of the big 3, sorry not on the pitch u ain't
 
I think India made a good recovery in 3 or 4th innings and if you focus solely in this match then you had say that India played some great cricket on day 3 and day 4 and it's okay to lose the way they lost. However, if you look under the light of all the events, recent matches and matches they have to play this year, you would say India is in a big hole and it's gonna get deeper and deeper from on here.
 
Now I want to see those who were saying 'MS DHONi- The Greatest ever captain'.
He and Misbah are of no difference.Both are decent batters. But Fans make them invincible by calling them so and so .:facepalm:
 
Anfield said:
I remember a year or so back Gavaskar was saying that Indian bowlers don't bowl enough overs in the net and they don't bowl with the same intensity either. He was saying if you're not going to put your all in the nets how can you expect them to put up a better show in the match?
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Do Indian bowler play domestic cricket? Ranji? Or do they all have a rest when they get home and do all the commercials and runway shows etc?
 
Could it be more the fact there are too many domestic teams?

I know India has a big population but if you struggle to pull a group of pacers together from that many teams makes me wonder what all the others are like.
 
OZGOD said:
Do Indian bowler play domestic cricket? Ranji? Or do they all have a rest when they get home and do all the commercials and runway shows etc?
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They get selected and then sit on the bench.Case in point

Today Rest of India vs Karnataka match started on a green top.But ROI selects Dinda and Anureet singh over Varun Aaron.Pathetic team selections.Most bowlers do play for their state teams though.
 
Anfield said:
I remember a year or so back Gavaskar was saying that Indian bowlers don't bowl enough overs in the net and they don't bowl with the same intensity either. He was saying if you're not going to put your all in the nets how can you expect them to put up a better show in the match?
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I heard Gavaskar too. They are probably afraid of injuring themselves in the nets, and that is the last thing an Indian bowler wants, as his place is usually very insecure unlike an Indian batsman. The board must give the bowler more confidence.
 
Well done New Zealand. You guys deserved to win and this BCCI team deserved to lose. I hope india lose the the next test too. Big 3 my foot. If you want to become big 3 do it on the field.
 
Congratulations New Zealand, you guys were the better team for the majority of this test match and fully deserve the victory.

Personally gutted that I missed such an awsome day of cricket wanted to wait and check the highlights tommorow but couldn't resist visiting cricinfo in any case hoping for another cracker of a test match in Wellington in the meantime enjoy the victory #thumpsup
 
Just for a while give credits to Indian team too after conceding 500 runs no one would have thought that this game will this much close :14:

Well comeback by India :14:
 
I wonder why hardly any crowd shows up when India tours these days? there were hardly any crowd in that SA test series even on weekends and holiday and again for this NZ test series. Nobody wants to see minnows I guess.
 
cricketjoshila said:
They get selected and then sit on the bench.Case in point

Today Rest of India vs Karnataka match started on a green top.But ROI selects Dinda and Anureet singh over Varun Aaron.Pathetic team selections.Most bowlers do play for their state teams though.
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Yea I'm watching it right now. I was hoping to see Aaron bowl in his home conditions.
 
Energetic said:
I wonder why hardly any crowd shows up when India tours these days? there were hardly any crowd in that SA test series even on weekends and holiday and again for this NZ test series. Nobody wants to see minnows I guess.
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Probably because to be fair to NZ and SA they are rugby nations. The All Blacks and the Springboks, not to mention their Super Rugby and NPC and Currie Cup sides, are far and away more popular than cricket. For SA there's also Bafana Bafana which the majority black population support. If anything it's impressive to see good crowds for cricket in England and Australia, given they also have lots of sports to choose from, like football, rugby league, aerial ping pong etc. But cricket is a lot stronger in those countries than they are in NZ or SA.
 
Two NZ pacers in top 10 bowling rankings now.

Southee has really improved was averaging over 40 not long ago.
 
Energetic said:
I wonder why hardly any crowd shows up when India tours these days? there were hardly any crowd in that SA test series even on weekends and holiday and again for this NZ test series. Nobody wants to see minnows I guess.
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Or test cricket is still dying and is said to be boring


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Great win for us. Shame i had cricket and then work so missed most of the last 2 days. About to watch highlights
 
Energetic said:
I wonder why hardly any crowd shows up when India tours these days? there were hardly any crowd in that SA test series even on weekends and holiday and again for this NZ test series. Nobody wants to see minnows I guess.
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Uh??weren't the odi's jam packed??
It's more to do with the format of cricket than the team!
 
India had a great chance today to win it, but when the likes of Jadeja get out the way he did, you got to question some of the mentality of these batsmen.

The bowlers did their job in the 2nd innings and it was up to the batsmen to ram that advantage through. Jadeja is just a hack and thinks by hitting 1 or 2 deliveries for a maximum he has a free licence to do it again. Pathetic by him.

Dhawan batted well and got out to a good short ball.

Vijay was unlucky to tickle an edge on the legside to the keeper.

Kohli got out to a poor poor stroke that took his under-edge.

Sharma keeps making the same mistakes over and over again.

Rahane got out to a in-swinger which you cannot blame him for.

Dhoni was pretty unlucky with an inside-edge on to the wickets but it should've been a no-ball when Wagner's back for touched the backline/crease. But I guess Watling was also unlucky in NZ 2nd innings too.

Jadeja, well what a ridiculous shot to attempt when you only needed 80-odd.

Overall I guess NZ deserved it but India maybe should've won the game at the end.
 
Target of 407 is a very tough one.

With six down at 270, things were looking bleak for India, normally test matches are over if you need 140 with just 4 wickets in hand. But Jadeja and Dhoni counterattacked and got 54 runs in 5 overs or so, that brought back India into the match. Jadeja went for the shots, and he definitely knew the risk he was taking. Dhoni knows very well that if Jadeja and Dhoni can bring down the target to striking distance, say 50 runs, then they can cut down the risks. There was really no choice for Jadeja and Dhoni, they had to get quick runs to give India a realistic chance, if they had batted slowly India would have lost by 100 runs.

Kohli's wicket was where India lost it, really. From that point, there was only a small chance to win. Kohli has not yet fully mastered the art of test match batting, where you need to be more choosy on which deliveries to go after.
 
Energetic said:
I wonder why hardly any crowd shows up when India tours these days? there were hardly any crowd in that SA test series even on weekends and holiday and again for this NZ test series. Nobody wants to see minnows I guess.
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There were a lot of Indian fans for the ODIS they prefer LOIS to tests like most SC fans
 
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