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New Zealand v Pakistan | 2nd Test | Hamilton | Nov 25-29, 2016 | Day 2

Imran and Sohail bowled very well, plus got the ball to seam around both ways.

Amir was hot and cold, couldn't follow up his brilliance from yesterday.

Riaz was okay.
 
What would be a worrying first innings score here? 250?

Pitch is good to bat. 250 is hardly a worrying first inning total for opposition.

Why not stick to line and length which troubles batsmen? Pakistan is bowling too short here.
 
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Both Sohail and Imran have 22 wickets after 8 games. But Imran has a superior average.

I guess it shows who has superior control over the new ball and bowling in tests in general.
 
Both Sohail and Imran have 22 wickets after 8 games. But Imran has a superior average.

I guess it shows who has superior control over the new ball and bowling in tests in general.

Sohail's first test was played on an absolute road against Sri Lanka where YK got a triple. Might as well delete that from the figures and then compare.
 
Interesting fact, all 6 wkts so far have been through catches either by wkt keeper or first slip.
 
Sohail's first test was played on an absolute road against Sri Lanka where YK got a triple. Might as well delete that from the figures and then compare.

And Imran has only played on dead wickets while Sohail has played 3/4 games on sporting tracks.

Early days but it does give you a hint. Tells you how handy IK can be in tests but yea you cannot ignore Sohail's swing bowling abilities as well.
 
Interesting fact, all 6 wkts so far have been through catches either by wkt keeper or first slip.

It's just like Waqar said: it's just about doing enough to make the batsman play and miss or edge the ball. Waqar said he preferred such tracks over wickets that were tailor made for swing bowling (bowled/lbw's).
 
Pakistan need to get wickets quickly , too many runs , Pakistan batting will be under pressure.
 
Wahab, as usual, is bowling pure pure Garbage !!!

Why do we even play him on such surfaces is beyond me :facepalm:
 
I have a feeling Watling will remain not out or be the last man to get out whilst hitting out. He is an obdurate batsman who isn't going to hand you his wkt.
 
wahab continues to leak the runs....

pitch is looking like a batting heaven...perfect bounce with no lateral movement either. sun is out as well. kiwis set for 320+ minimum.

the issue is first 40 overs for pakistan when the ball will be fresh and hard. if we lose 4-5 wickets in 40 overs we are done as we have worst tail on the planet. our tail is so bad that it is not even a joke. look at kiwis. no 7 and no 8 average 40 and 25
 
Wicket is flat now.

With rain around, it's either a draw or Pakistani win.

A lot will depend on how quickly Pakistan score.
 
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Why are we bowling Wahab, over after over ?????????

:livid: Get Immy / Amir with Sohail and we'll wrap this up yar !! :facepalm:
 
sohail biggest problem is his fitness. he can only bowl 6-8 overs a day with complete fitness and after that he is done. he is struggling now. he is bowling with heavy boots and even struggling to reach to his full bowling run-up.
 
Wicket is flat now.

With rain around it's either a draw or Pakistani win.

Won't rain help the bowlers again?

If it continues to stay sunny, agree that Pakistan will have to bat very badly to not win.
 
every kiwi commentator is doomed, confused, perplexed, astonished, and speechless as to why we didnt select yasir shah. i guess they are wondering why in the world we left out a world class spinner for wahabs, imrans and sohails :)
 
every kiwi commentator is doomed, confused, perplexed, astonished, and speechless as to why we didnt select yasir shah. i guess they are wondering why in the world we left out a world class spinner for wahabs, imrans and sohails :)
Yasir would have been handy on day 5.

I would have dropped Imran for Yasir.
 
Wicket is flat now.

With rain around, it's either a draw or Pakistani win.

A lot will depend on how quickly Pakistan score.

Pitch is getting easier to bat. If Pakistan bats well then I will back Pakistan to win here. NZ batting is shaky.
 
Yea haters talk nah......

YK with a brilliant sharp low slip catch :14: - A PROPER ATG !!
 
Won't rain help the bowlers again?

If it continues to stay sunny, agree that Pakistan will have to bat very badly to not win.
Don't think it will be significant enough to cause Pakistan too many issues.
 
Finally out. Please wrap it up quickly. I doubt we will even get to 150.
 
Wicket is flat now.

With rain around, it's either a draw or Pakistani win.

A lot will depend on how quickly Pakistan score.

i love your optimism

but as a humble student of pakistani cricket for over 35 years, let me predict that this wicket will look totally different when pakistan will bat. or in other words, we will bring demons out of this pitch which are unseen right now
 
Is Sohail Pakistan's best bowler?

He is the one actually moves the ball. Now docking for cover before army attacks me for not naming the famous one for moving the ball.
 
and one more wicket for sohail....

that is what i was saying..bowl 3rd and 4th stump..bowl full
 
Pitch is getting easier to bat. If Pakistan bats well then I will back Pakistan to win here. NZ batting is shaky.
Hoping Pakistan score slowly and there's a lot of rain, no chance we're saving this without some assistance.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Pakistan having to declare 500/3 or 4.
 
Hoping Pakistan score slowly and there's a lot of rain, no chance we're saving this without some assistance.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Pakistan having to declare 500/3 or 4.
Pakistan isn't scoring more than 300
 
Hoping Pakistan score slowly and there's a lot of rain, no chance we're saving this without some assistance.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Pakistan having to declare 500/3 or 4.

If Pakistan bats like last time then they have no one to blame. Nah, 500/3 is not happening. It's not UAE.
 
What's up with Wahab Riaz's obsession with short balls? He is not fast enough to trouble tailenders.
 
The average score on this ground is 263 while no team in the last 7 years have won a game on Seadon Park while bowling first....
 
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