What's new

New Zealand vs Australia | 1st Test | Wellington | Feb 12-16, 2016 | Match Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Pakpak

Pakpak

ODI Debutant
Joined
Jan 31, 2009
Runs
9,230
This will also be Brendon McCullum's 100th Test match. Should be a great game!
 
Hopefully Australia lose but Smith's average isn't disturbed.
 
It's a windy Wellington morning. Cloudy but the sun is starting to burn through. Going to reach 22 degrees.

Off to the Basin shortly!
 
Rumour has it we will get a pretty green wicket for the match and we have seen Aussies stuggle in england when confronted with such surfaces so kiwis may use similar tactics to expose the aussie here.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Rumour has it we will get a pretty green wicket for the match and we have seen Aussies stuggle in england when confronted with such surfaces so kiwis may use similar tactics to expose the aussie here.
Click to expand...

I was expecting that, but I'm told that a lot more of the grass has been removed than expected.

I was at Adelaide at the hotel where both teams stayed, and the Kiwis took their 2-0 defeat hard. They thought that the second and third Tests were dead equal.

And I think they are afraid of being turned over on a greentop if they lose the toss. Winning one match and losing three out of five over the summer would be taken badly.
 
Still looking pretty green. Greener than the hill.

I'm available for pitch or weather reports if Warnie's mate John needs any?
 
Whoever bats on Day 2 should be pretty happy.

99% sure that whoever wins the toss will bowl!
 
Anyway, what are your predictions guys for B-Macs final innings?

I'll say 0(3) and 42(14)
 
Aus bowling... These green may misfire to hurt kiwis

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
 
What a surprise we lost the toss.

This is why it's stupid to prepare a green top when you cannot win a toss to save your life, even worse against a side who struggles against the tiny bit of movement.

This Aus side is terrible if they don't win from here.

It'll only be difficult to bat on day 1, it'll flatten up by day 2 and only get easier to bat.
 
Junaids said:
Whoever bats on Day 2 should be pretty happy.

99% sure that whoever wins the toss will bowl!
Click to expand...
Against 2 evenly matched sides, whoever bowls first will win.

It will only really be difficult to bat for 3-4 sessions.
 
Aman said:
What a surprise we lost the toss.

This is why it's stupid to prepare a green top when you cannot win a toss to save your life, even worse against a side who struggles against the tiny bit of movement.

This Aus side is terrible if they don't win from here.

It'll only be difficult to bat on day 1, it'll flatten up by day 2 and only get easier to bat.
Click to expand...

Are you at the ground?

And NZ will still win, they know how to play in these conditions.
 
Green pitch, run rate at 5+ LOL

First they make wack dimensions for stadiums, and now can't even make a green mamba jamba pitch right :facepalm:

Aus board should take action as they were thrown off by this build up that there would be a green pitch, movement, impossible to bat blah blah.
 
Aman said:
What a surprise we lost the toss.

This is why it's stupid to prepare a green top when you cannot win a toss to save your life, even worse against a side who struggles against the tiny bit of movement.

This Aus side is terrible if they don't win from here.

It'll only be difficult to bat on day 1, it'll flatten up by day 2 and only get easier to bat.
Click to expand...

Apparently the game down in Lincoln looked like a real greentop but wasn't.

I suspect Smith sending you guys in was to avoid batting first more than to get to bowl first
 
Suleiman said:
Green pitch, run rate at 5+ LOL

First they make wack dimensions for stadiums, and now can't even make a green mamba jamba pitch right :facepalm:

Aus board should take action as they were thrown off by this build up that there would be a green pitch, movement, impossible to bat blah blah.
Click to expand...

It has just been two overs.
 
shaz619 said:
Are you at the ground?

And NZ will still win, they know how to play in these conditions.
Click to expand...
Look at the Tests against SL and India. We've been rolled when being sent into bat and they've easily outscored us in their first innings, we needed special knocks from BMac, (against India) , KW (against SL) and Watling to save/win it from there. It was moronic from management, even a slow wicket would have been better than this.
 
We'll need to score 450 to stay in the game, the Aussies will be at home in the second innings.

Probably need this loss as a wake up call to management who keep going green only for it to backfire (losing the toss).
 
Aman said:
Look at the Tests against SL and India. We've been rolled when being sent into bat and they've easily outscored us in their first innings, we needed special knocks from BMac, (against India) , KW (against SL) and Watling to save/win it from there. It was moronic from management, even a slow wicket would have been better than this.
Click to expand...

It was a gamble but they know that Aussies can only bat on flat pitches, it could have paid off. All is not lost though.
 
Any first innings total over 250 is fine.

In these conditions, the second and third innings cancel one another out.

So it becomes a shootout between what Australia can do in a Day One greentop and what the Kiwis can do on a wearing Day Five surface.

So 250 in the first innings is par, 450 in the second and third.
 
Hazlewood and Bird are struggling with their lengths, and being driven when they overpitch.

But when Bird has got his length right, he has looked hard to play.
 
At this point we'd be better off going after it and scoring as many as we can, then getting the Aussie top order in when there's still something there.

Don't trust our batsmen to see the conditions out, they've failed plenty of times against much weaker bowling lineups.
 
KW gone lol

I doubt we'll make it to 100.

lol at those saying day 5 would make up for batting 1st here, the chances of getting to day 5 are slim.
 
You'd expect Williamson to be more compact than that on this pitch.

Two of their best technical players already gone, NZ could very well collapse for a hundred.
 
Last edited:
If we want to make green wickets, make wickets that have something there for more than a day.

Otherwise it's always bowl first and win against evenly matched sides.
 
Last edited:
Bye bye Wade's career

It's nice having a keeper
 
ChachaCricket said:
You'd expect Williamson to be more compact than that on this pitch.

Two of their best technical players already gone, NZ could very well collapse for a hundred.
Click to expand...
Nicolls, McCullum, Anderson and Watling left.

Aus should look to knock them over for 150, if things go well probably even 100.
 
Shouldn't [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION] still be in bed?
 
Pakistan has a Test on this greentop in nine months.

Asif should be the first name on the team sheet.
 
Ideally, bat 50 overs then declare with whatever you have and knock over the Aussies.

If we bowl well, can't see them lasting 40 overs here then bat on day 2 and 3 to pile on a big score.
 
Aussie bowling has been a mixed bag in this 1st 8 overs, Bird is almost trying to hard here and needs to just get his line and length right and the suttle seam/swing movement will cause the batsmen problems.

Kiwis will keep being aggresive and playing their shots so the Aussies chances for wickets here will be high but they dont want to give to many cheap runs away as this already looks like it will be a low scoring affair.
 
Now that their lengths are right the bowlers are fine.

Awful batting. Williamson had no right to be playing a shot, and Guptill and McCullum lack the technique to survive on a traditional Test surface.
 
Huge test for Nicholls and anderson to rebuild now.
 
Junaids said:
Now that their lengths are right the bowlers are fine.

Awful batting. Williamson had no right to be playing a shot, and Guptill and McCullum lack the technique to survive on a traditional Test surface.
Click to expand...
For all the hype KW's technique gets, I'm still yet to see him score on a 'traditional' Test surface.
 
Junaids said:
Now that their lengths are right the bowlers are fine.

Awful batting. Williamson had no right to be playing a shot, and Guptill and McCullum lack the technique to survive on a traditional Test surface.
Click to expand...

All 4 wickets have come from good length deliveries where batsmen have been drawn forward onto front foot, on wickets like this thats the perfect place to bowl.
 
Convict said:
It's not hard to wake up early for test cricket
Click to expand...

It's marvellous. Proper Test cricket on a pitch which will ease up and eventually might break up if the Kiwis bat well enough second time around.

I love low scoring Test cricket!
 
Aman said:
What a surprise we lost the toss.

This is why it's stupid to prepare a green top when you cannot win a toss to save your life, even worse against a side who struggles against the tiny bit of movement.

This Aus side is terrible if they don't win from here.

It'll only be difficult to bat on day 1, it'll flatten up by day 2 and only get easier to bat.
Click to expand...

It has to be green like this at the Basin or its a road. 3rd innings is the best for batting so it balances out having to struggle the first session
 
As an aside, as he will bowl in fifteen minutes, I was surprised how tall Mitch Marsh is. Looks around 6'4.
 
Space Cat said:
It has to be green like this at the Basin or its a road. 3rd innings is the best for batting so it balances out having to struggle the first session
Click to expand...
Still think we would have been much better off preparing a slow wicket, I know we would have been able to grind the Aussies out on that.
 
51/4 in 11 overs = playing far too many shots at balls which should be left alone
 
More good keeping

Junaids said:
As an aside, as he will bowl in fifteen minutes, I was surprised how tall Mitch Marsh is. Looks around 6'4.
Click to expand...

Was a very good footballer as a teenager. Would have been a first round draft pick
 
Extra bounce gets him which wouldn't have happened or carried if he was standing down the wicket.
 
Better off playing your shots (to the right deliveries) now, no point blocking and scoring nothing when your technique isn't good enough to survive here.
 
I wonder if this game will make it to day 3 at this rate, Kiwis playing in LOI mode wanting to play at everything
 
Aman said:
Still think we would have been much better off preparing a slow wicket, I know we would have been able to grind the Aussies out on that.
Click to expand...

I'd rather just go with what has worked for us in the recent past. You can't just roll out a slow wicket on this block. It will get quicker thru the first 3 days.

It's been a poor start but Aus will have to bat on this also.
 
Space Cat said:
I'd rather just go with what has worked for us in the recent past. You can't just roll out a slow wicket on this block. It will get quicker thru the first 3 days.

It's been a poor start but Aus will have to bat on this also.
Click to expand...
It'll be tough to bat to come back from this and it's not like Southee and Boult are in great form to get us back into the game.
 
Aman said:
It'll be tough to bat to come back from this and it's not like Southee and Boult are in great form to get us back into the game.
Click to expand...

If we can eek out 200 it will be a contest. Aus will struggle first innings I think.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Ball Blazer
New Zealand and South Africa tour of Zimbabwe - T20I Tri-series (2025)
Replies
30
Views
915
sweep_shot
sweep_shot
The Bald Eagle
India (249/9) defeat New Zealand (205) by 45 runs to fix a clash with Australia in the first semi-final of ICC Champions Trophy 2025
14 15 16
Replies
1K
Views
23K
giri26
G
Savak
New Zealand becoming the new Australia for Pakistan since 2011
Replies
29
Views
838
GoUgandaCranes
GoUgandaCranes
FearlessRoar
New Zealand (308/4) defeat South Africa (304/6) by 6 wickets to register their spot in the final of Tri-Nation ODI series 2025
2
Replies
131
Views
4K
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
  • Poll Poll
[VIDEOS] Should Test matches be reduced to four days instead of five days?
Replies
48
Views
2K
zn426
Z
Back
Top