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New Zealand vs Australia | Feb 20-24, 2016 | 2nd Test | Christchurch | Match Thread

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Aussies are truly deserving no.1.They know when to bat and when to field.LOL.
 
SpellChecker said:
Apparently bowlers has eyes that looks at crease every single ball...

Who ever bowls a no ball is a choker :kohli Can't deny your logic

You win :yk
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Lol if that's all you understood then fine what can I say...
 
Ian Smith is the worst commentator in the world.

Any idea why Coney isn't commentating for Sky? [MENTION=95766]leatherface58[/MENTION] [MENTION=131138]Space Cat[/MENTION]
 
Aman said:
Ian Smith is the worst commentator in the world.

Any idea why Coney isn't commentating for Sky? [MENTION=95766]leatherface58[/MENTION] [MENTION=131138]Space Cat[/MENTION]
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Because I'm listening to him on the radio
 
NZ's bowling sucks. Southee wasted the first 8 overs with the new ball where a couple of strikes were critical for NZ to have any chance.
 
It's all about patience now, once NZ get the chance to bat again they need to be patient.

Only way you're getting out now is if you throw your wicket away.
 
ChachaCricket said:
NZ's bowling sucks. Southee wasted the first 8 overs with the new ball where a couple of strikes were critical for NZ to have any chance.
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Aside from Broad and Steyn, who else is really good on bowling on a flat wicket with a kookaburra?
 
Huh? Starc can be an extremely pitch agnostic bowler.

Precisely because he's always capable of doing something
 
ChachaCricket said:
He doesn't even rely on the pitch as he doesn't seam. All airspeed and swing.
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Which is useless when you go at 4-5 an over and only really pick up the odd wicket or two of a top order batsmen. Yes the odd wicket here and there is better than what our bowlers and most others get, but he is nowhere near Steyn or Broad in that regard. If you want to include players of that caliber, you may as well include JK and Wahab as both also shown the ability to pick up wickets on roads.
 
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Aman said:
Which is useless when you go at 4-5 an over and only really pick up the odd wicket or two of a top order batsmen. Yes the odd wicket here and there is better than what our bowlers and most others get, but he is nowhere near Steyn or Broad in that regard.
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Averaging 24 in his last 10 tests. It's clear you haven't been watching.
 
ChachaCricket said:
Averaging 24 in his last 10 tests. It's clear you haven't been watching.
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Taking the odd wicket with the new ball up front, and then the odd few of tailenders doesn't really equate to what Broad and Steyn have done on flat wickets with an older kookaburra. Maybe if you had watched those games, you would have realized he's not in the same class as those two when it comes to picking up wickets (i.e. more than 1 or 2) when there is nothing there.
 
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Aman said:
Taking the odd wicket with the new ball up front, and then the odd few of tailenders doesn't really equate to what Broad and Steyn have done on flat wickets with an older kookaburra.
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Broad hasn't really done much on flat tracks. Anyway, I'm wasting my time with you.
 
Wow Steve Smith owning every country he tours it seems, easily the best batsmen in the world currently..
 
Idk how this guy Smith does it. Looks like a hack, but doesn't bat like one. His stance etc is everything a coach would advise against, but he knows what he is doing which is the important part.

Credit to Aussie coaches as well for not trying to change his technique to the generic stuff, they saw that it's working for him so didn't tinker with him much, which was good on their part.
 
Suleiman said:
Idk how this guy Smith does it. Looks like a hack, but doesn't bat like one. His stance etc is everything a coach would advise against, but he knows what he is doing which is the important part.

Credit to Aussie coaches as well for not trying to change his technique to the generic stuff, they saw that it's working for him so didn't tinker with him much, which was good on their part.
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There's no magic behind it. Plays the ball really late, doesn't have to worry about his off stump, knows his strengths and weaknesses and great temperament.
 
Another innings defeat on the cards.

Told you [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION], we aren't capable of taking 20 wickets here.
 
Waiting for the typical lot to discount this so they can continue claiming Smith is a HTB
 
Aman said:
Another innings defeat on the cards.

Told you [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION], we aren't capable of taking 20 wickets here.
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You are never going to beat OZ in a flat wicket...only chance is a green pitch but you don't have good batsmen either to utilise that.
 
NZ pitches suck. It offers something for bowlers on Day-1 and then the pitch will be dead for the next 4 days. Nothing for spinners too on Day-4 and 5.

I remember when India toured them a couple of years ago, ball did a lot on Day-1 and then it was run fest for the next 4 days. What is the point of playing Test matches on such dead wickets?

Southee, Boult and trundlers. Nz need Milne. Only he can produce something out of these dead tracks.
 
Aman said:
You'd think a SKY contract would be more lucrative than a Radio Sport contract.
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Jerry Coney lives in England and is an infrequent visitor home.

The greater tragedy is that the BBC doesn't use him on TMS unless NZ is England's opponent. He's quite similar to Vic Marks.
 
Really disappointing end to the day with those bizarre identical dismissals but brilliant partnership nonetheless, so often in the clarke era we tried to respond to getting smashed by scoring even faster even if it simply wasn't required but this time was just the perfect sensible partnership that just ground nz down.

Will be game on if nz get voges early as that marsh/nevill 6/7 still looks so dodgy.
 
trogger said:
Really disappointing end to the day with those bizarre identical dismissals but brilliant partnership nonetheless, so often in the clarke era we tried to respond to getting smashed by scoring even faster even if it simply wasn't required but this time was just the perfect sensible partnership that just ground nz down.

Will be game on if nz get voges early as that marsh/nevill 6/7 still looks so dodgy.
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If NZ restrict lead below 100 we have a game...but I still have doubt about those NZ pitches which turned absolute roads on last 2 days.
 
I think we were getting something out of it on day 4 at the basin, lyon seemed to be enjoying things and the ball was also reversing.

I think we will need to wait till maybe half way through the nz innings to see what is actually there for the spinners.
 
Top knocks from Burns and Smith. Game. Set. Match.
 
Another test hundred for Steven Smith. "Can only score these at home". Right?
 
That's what happens when you play Test cricket the 'correct' way against Kamikazealand, you completely dominate them barring the odd test here and there. NZ given a harsh lesson in both home and away tour by the Aussies.
 
Abdul said:
Another test hundred for Steven Smith. "Can only score these at home". Right?
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Not at all. He's great on roads anywhere.

Twenty six hours ago I predicted 500 for Australia.

The fascinating thing for PakPassion readers is that Burns, Khawaja, Voges and Mitch Marsh are now secure until October, when they face South Africa's strong attack in four tests followed by Amir, Wahab, Asif and Yasir in three.

There is a substantial chance that Steyn, Rabada, Morkel and Philander will take out a couple of them before Pakistan even arrives.
 
And then people say Aussie Test team HTB or FTB :) And i think Smithy proved many people wrong too.
 
Junaids said:
Not at all. He's great on roads anywhere.

Twenty six hours ago I predicted 500 for Australia.

The fascinating thing for PakPassion readers is that Burns, Khawaja, Voges and Mitch Marsh are now secure until October, when they face South Africa's strong attack in four tests followed by Amir, Wahab, Asif and Yasir in three.

There is a substantial chance that Steyn, Rabada, Morkel and Philander will take out a couple of them before Pakistan even arrives.
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Wasn't it you Junaids that was telling us how bad Australia were and how batsmen were going to be exposed by NZ bowlers especially in NZ

So whats your story now, Australian batsmen are going to be exposed by the SA bowlers and if they don't then the Pakistan bowlers will and if they fail then I guess the England bowlers will.

One day you will be right and you can come on here and tell us how you predicted that the Aus bats would be exposed.
 
Junaids said:
Not at all. He's great on roads anywhere.

Twenty six hours ago I predicted 500 for Australia.

The fascinating thing for PakPassion readers is that Burns, Khawaja, Voges and Mitch Marsh are now secure until October, when they face South Africa's strong attack in four tests followed by Amir, Wahab, Asif and Yasir in three.

There is a substantial chance that Steyn, Rabada, Morkel and Philander will take out a couple of them before Pakistan even arrives.
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so you're jumping off the kiwi train are you? you spent the last 18 months telling us how vastly superior they were to us in all conditions.

You also seem to be great at telling us how each team is going to dominate us at home for the year leading up to the actual series then you move onto the next one when that pesky reality thing gets in the way.

As for smith he plays on the same tracks away from australia that his teammates and his opponents do yet he consistently scores away from home and unlike root who failed in Australia, Williamson who failed in SA and kohli who failed in england smith simply doesn't have any one place where he has flopped with an average of over 40 in every single country he has played.

As much as it kills people like you to admit it smith is simply a run machine away from home, these mythical batsmen smith is apparently competing with who dominate england on greentops before dominating india on rank turners simply do not exist, smith compares very well to the best young batsmen in the game home or away so just dry those tears and accept reality, the sun will still come up tomorrow.
 
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It looks like the love affair between Junaids and NZ has failed and now Junaids is courting SA.
 
Actually he's hoping SA just rough us up so his boys can beat us in the following series.
 
[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] if you read the interview with me last year, you'll know that four decades ago I loved Pakistan, South Africa and the West Indies.
 
Junaids said:
[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] if you read the interview with me last year, you'll know that four decades ago I loved Pakistan, South Africa and the West Indies.
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I only read your posts from six months ago telling us all how badly NZ was going to beat Australia and how the Australian batsmen would be exposed by Boult and Southee.
 
Aman said:
Nope, without the ball doing anything, he's useless. He also offers up plenty of freebies.
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Your wrong again, remember last years ashes series when ecb served up a complete road at lords and ausies completely anailated England and then we had the famous remarks first by cook then bayliss that we need wickets with assistance to suit our bowlers not flat wickets which play in to the hand of opposition which was spot on
 
Suleiman said:
Idk how this guy Smith does it. Looks like a hack, but doesn't bat like one. His stance etc is everything a coach would advise against, but he knows what he is doing which is the important part.

Credit to Aussie coaches as well for not trying to change his technique to the generic stuff, they saw that it's working for him so didn't tinker with him much, which was good on their part.
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455/5 chokers :yk2
 
Batted the kiwis right back into the game, jeez marsh is a shocker he's a number 8 at best.
 
Marsh gives his wicket away again.

Wagner, well bowled. Been the pick of the bowlers. Giving it everything.
 
trogger said:
Batted the kiwis right back into the game, jeez marsh is a shocker he's a number 8 at best.
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He's a better batsman than what he has shown at test level but he shouldn't be in the team. Should be back with WA working on his flaws.
 
It's tough as he has been close to our third best quick lately but i just don't think we can play him as the 5th bowler right now, he should be like you said out of the team working on his batting or batting lower down and playing as the 3rd seamer in a 4 man attack.
 
Don't see Marsh getting dropped anytime soon. Australia's been putting up 500s easily without him. They know he's a hundred away from taking off.
 
trogger said:
It's tough as he has been close to our third best quick lately but i just don't think we can play him as the 5th bowler right now, he should be like you said out of the team working on his batting or batting lower down and playing as the 3rd seamer in a 4 man attack.
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Yeah the sad thing is also that at the rate our bowlers are breaking down he's actually playing ever second test as the third or even second seamer.

But like [MENTION=139353]ChachaCricket[/MENTION] says he's not going to be dropped while we're winning

Half the reason we kept Voges in after the Ashes was to make it easier to carry some of the younger guys.
The other half of course was to help Smith
 
Great stuff from Wagner. That's how you bowl when the pitch flattens out. The other softies could learn something from him.
 
ChachaCricket said:
Such a static stance, asking to be caught behind the stumps.
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I can only picture you as Mikami from death note these days, monitoring every cricketers technique and screaming DELETE before scribbling their name into your notebook.....
 
Williamson has a clear problem with full inswinging ball. Was struggling with it in Australia as well. Anything on the stumps he hangs back on the crease and struggles to get a stride in fearing an LBW.
 
Gets deep in the crease to give himself time but this gives the bowler more room to pitch it fuller therefore quite often he errs in judging the fullness of the ball resulting in late feet movement.

The crouched stance doesn't help either. In comparison to Latham who has a more upright stance judges the fuller length better whereas Williamson is relying on mental strength every ball.
 
Length, length, short, length, slip in a full one.

Williamson has to come outside the crease to upset the length otherwise he'll have to rely on mental strength to get every run.
 
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[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] some tampering going on. These wickets shouldn't count.
 
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