No international cricket during IPL from 2019 [Update Post #97]

[MenInG]

In what might be the first possible indication of how the cricket world order is set to change, the Indian Premier League (IPL) - the sport's hottest property globally - is now expected to remain a bilateral-free window during the months of April and May, post 2019.

The International Cricket Council's two-day meeting in Singapore attended by the chief executives discussed a detailed presentation on the Future Tour Program (FTP) from each member board of the parent body on December 7 and 8, where the BCCI presented a revised schedule.

Privy to how the BCCI has gone about structuring its bilateral window, TOI learns that an effort has been made on part of the Indian board to ensure that all member boards of the ICC will keep their respective cricketers free of all bilateral commitments, thus obliging the IPL with a thorough participation. Only the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) is still to commit to the two-month window, which India believes will come through soon.

England happens to be the only major cricket nation in the northern hemisphere and finds its home season beginning only in the month of June. Between April and May - months during which IPL is played - BCCI is confident the ECB will keep itself free of any overseas commitments. This new window for the next rights cycle beginning after the 2019 ICC World Cup will now be brought up at the BCCI's Special General Body (SGM) meeting in New Delhi on Monday (December 11).

A bilateral-free IPL could be the first sign of how the international structure of cricket could change in the future, with T20 becoming the primary format to sustain the game's finances and India asserting themselves in the global cricket industry by way of once again being seen as the sport's principal revenue generator. "IPL will be the only global marquee event from 2020," sources in the know of developments said.

The IPL window, by way of interpretation alone, could become India's extended home season because there won't be any effort made to include the multi-million dollar T20 property into the official calendar for pre-existing reasons.

Revised roadmap

In the revised FTP presented by the Indian board, an effort has been made to restructure India's home season. The BCCI will not play away from home between October and November, and February and March, in the next rights cycle from 2019 to 2023. India are scheduled to tour England and Australia in 2018, post the IPL's 11th edition.

When the time comes to tour these countries in the next rights cycle, the BCCI has proposed - after suggestions from the Indian team management - that it intends to break these tours into two parts consisting Tests (on one tour) and One-day Internationals and T20 Internationals (on the next tour). England and Australia, for instance, have followed such a policy for years.

BCCI is coming out with the media rights tender for Indian cricket later this month and India do not play at home for entire 2018 (as scheduled in the earlier FTP) which means the pressure will be on the BCCI to engage with their broadcaster to enhance commitment. "A lot of work has gone into this and it's going to pay off well," say industry executives.

ICC windfall

There's more for India to look forward to between 2020 and 2023. The BCCI will host an ICC Champions Trophy in 2021 and the ICC 50-over World Cup in 2023 and a windfall can be expected considering India's demand for a hike in hosting fees on the lines of what the ECB received from the world governing body in the run-up to the 2017 ICC Champions Trophy. "The revised FTP suggests one simple formula. India will not play meaningless cricket anymore. Each member board is committed to six bilateral arrangements in two years. But the ICC cannot dictate the context in the content," say sources familiar with the development.

SGM to discuss FTP

A draft of this revised FTP was shared with the office-bearers of BCCI, who will attend the Monday SGM. TOI spoke to an office-bearer along with some state unit members who expressed satisfaction at the new FTP presented. "FTP could be read along the lines of the same Big Three model that was first presented in 2014 when N Srinivasan was the BCCI president and chairman of the ICC except that this isn't big three, it's big one," says a source privy to developments.

From the revenue distribution committed by ICC to member boards, a shortfall of close to USD 100m is expected in the next rights cycle. In such a scenario, onus will be on member boards to draw compensation from the industry and in that, boards may find no choice but to oblige BCCI for that is seen as the only way forward.

http://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/...-program-indian-cricket-indian-premier-league

 

[MenInG]

RIP International Cricket - $$$ win the game.

 

[JattMaula]

So no vote buying tours to Zimbabwe anymore?

 

[Shutdown Corner]

RIP International Cricket - $$$ win the game.

The only teams that played were countries without IPL players anyways.

also with only 3 Test series per year and 4 for LOIs...there is plenty of time international cricket the other 10 months.

 

[shaaik]

The only teams that played were countries without IPL players anyways.

also with only 3 Test series per year and 4 for LOIs...there is plenty of time international cricket the other 10 months.

What will happen if and when the other boards would start asking for an international cricket free window for their respective T20 leagues.

This is beyond ridiculous what BCCI is doing here. This may very well spell an end to International cricket specially test cricket, the future of which is in jeopardy anyway.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Just give a window to every Mickey Mouse League and get done with International cricket.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

RIP International Cricket - $$$ win the game.

Every cricket board will demand a window after this.

 

[rashmin]

What will happen if and when the other boards would start asking for an international cricket free window for their respective T20 leagues.

This is beyond ridiculous what BCCI is doing here. This may very well spell an end to International cricket specially test cricket, the future of which is in jeopardy anyway.

Other countries' T20 leagues are going to be scrapped away anyways, IPL fees will be 4-5 times of current rates in 2020

 

[USofA]

Looks like the BCCI have put a lot of thought and planning into this. Their primary goal seems to be to protect their premier brand/cash cow, the IPL. The $$ deal for the IPL having already been made. FTP wise they are going about the Big1 strategy to maximize the revenue from international cricket.

I would suggest that some of the other leagues like CPL, PSL and BPL should take advantage of this window and shift their leagues to April - May. This will not only ensure availability of players, would make planning the FTP/bi-laterals that much easier.

 

[USofA]

RIP International Cricket - $$$ win the game.

Which is what happens in the real world, almost all the time. Why should cricket be any different?

 

[shaaik]

Looks like the BCCI have put a lot of thought and planning into this. Their primary goal seems to be to protect their premier brand/cash cow, the IPL. The $$ deal for the IPL having already been made. FTP wise they are going about the Big1 strategy to maximize the revenue from international cricket.

I would suggest that some of the other leagues like CPL, PSL and BPL should take advantage of this window and shift their leagues to April - May. This will not only ensure availability of players, would make planning the FTP/bi-laterals that much easier.

So you suggest IPL shout get a separate and the rest of the leagues be played in the same time frame ... how’s that even possible to begin with ?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Which is what happens in the real world, almost all the time. Why should cricket be any different?

Wasn't like that a decade ago. Those who have seen cricket before IPL came will understand this.

 

[USofA]

So you suggest IPL shout get a separate and the rest of the leagues be played in the same time frame ... how’s that even possible to begin with ?

Perhaps its not possible, or maybe it is. It was just a suggestion. But the IPL window is a reality, why not take advantage.

 

[USofA]

Wasn't like that a decade ago. Those who have seen cricket before IPL came will understand this.

It has been the case for probably last 20 years. At least it has been consistently building up towards what it is today. The IPL is just another component added to the equation.

 

[maxamax]

Told you years ago, create a rival to ICC after collabing with countries otherwise kiss goodbye to the cricket. BCCI will leave non-Indian cricket as a joke and cricket will go as big-3's baseball.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Very interesting strategy from BCCI.

 

[maxamax]

It has been the case for probably last 20 years. At least it has been consistently building up towards what it is today. The IPL is just another component added to the equation.

Those sponsors could have boosted international cricket if used fairly. But a country is greedy enough to take it all and icc folks are ready to sell their souls for $$$.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

What will happen if and when the other boards would start asking for an international cricket free window for their respective T20 leagues.

This is beyond ridiculous what BCCI is doing here. This may very well spell an end to International cricket specially test cricket, the future of which is in jeopardy anyway.

The other T20 leagues will either have to put up or shut up. USofA's idea for all T20 leagues to be held April to May is a good idea. English County and BBL should be immune since they don't rely on too many foreign players. PSL will struggle if it moves to the same window, and if it doesn't players simply won't turn up as IPL will pay them more than enough.

CPL and BPL are third rate leagues and are irrelevant.

 

[USofA]

Those sponsors could have boosted international cricket if used fairly. But a country is greedy enough to take it all and icc folks are ready to sell their souls for $$$.

I would say that the ICC is the problem. They have the $$ with them. The boards can ask for whatever they want. If the ICC gives it to them, then the problem/fault is with the ICC no one else.

The sponsors have no obligation to boost anything, other than their own products and services. The ICC is the one responsible to do all the boosting.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

The beginning of the end for international cricket as we know it.

 

[Hasan123]

No surprise here. This is what they have wanted for a while. Most international teams deliberately didn't host series during this period.

 

[yasir]

I was expecting that after 2015 WC, surprise that they waited this long...Cricket will be reduced from professional to Gali Mula sports aka T20...Its like Mcdonald become future of food...So Cricket will die in the hands of Dessies at the end, but who knows, Bollywood is going on forever(it seems) without any content, maybe IPL will live for long time, quality is not exactly the demand of market

 

[cricketjoshila]

I would say that the ICC is the problem. They have the $$ with them. The boards can ask for whatever they want. If the ICC gives it to them, then the problem/fault is with the ICC no one else.

The sponsors have no obligation to boost anything, other than their own products and services. The ICC is the one responsible to do all the boosting.

ICC doesnt have the $$$. They get it from the markets their members provide.

 

[shaaik]

The other T20 leagues will either have to put up or shut up. USofA's idea for all T20 leagues to be held April to May is a good idea. English County and BBL should be immune since they don't rely on too many foreign players. PSL will struggle if it moves to the same window, and if it doesn't players simply won't turn up as IPL will pay them more than enough.

CPL and BPL are third rate leagues and are irrelevant.

What a pity to see this beautiful game that we adore a lot coming to this ..
power corrupts and absolutely power corrupts absolutely.. BCCI leaving no stone unturned to quench its greed. I never would have thought that we would ever come to this but then all good things in life have come to an end..

 

[troodon]

May be IPL rejects and Pak can play a league of their own during those 2 months.

 

[Aman]

This was inevitable.

T20 leagues, T20Is and ODIs are the future of the game.

 

[USofA]

ICC doesnt have the $$$. They get it from the markets their members provide.

I understand that. But the $$ goes to ICC's bank accounts. They are the ones distributing the money. If they choose to give a chunk of it to the BCCI, its their problem. No fault of BCCI.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Looks like the BCCI have put a lot of thought and planning into this. Their primary goal seems to be to protect their premier brand/cash cow, the IPL. The $$ deal for the IPL having already been made. FTP wise they are going about the Big1 strategy to maximize the revenue from international cricket.

I would suggest that some of the other leagues like CPL, PSL and BPL should take advantage of this window and shift their leagues to April - May. This will not only ensure availability of players, would make planning the FTP/bi-laterals that much easier.

Huh?

Why would anyone shift their league to match IPL timings?

No one will play in it, including their own players.

 

[R0H1T]

I understand that. But the $$ goes to ICC's bank accounts. They are the ones distributing the money. If they choose to give a chunk of it to the BCCI, its their problem. No fault of BCCI.

I think he's talking about the Indian market, ICC takes a cut from the Indian market which is actually huge so far as cricket is concerned & ICC cannot & will not control it, ever with or without intl cricket. In fact if push comes to shove then the ICC will become irrelevant first, even before BCCI/IPL does.

 

[USofA]

What a pity to see this beautiful game that we adore a lot coming to this ..
power corrupts and absolutely power corrupts absolutely.. BCCI leaving no stone unturned to quench its greed. I never would have thought that we would ever come to this but then all good things in life have come to an end..

I do not see cricket ending just because of this. This is just a domestic league for the Indian audience. That too for 2 months. The other boards are free to conduct their bi-lateral series. They just choose to not do so (not officially....yet).

In fact the BCCI has one of the busiest schedules in international cricket. Is in the top three in most number of tests play, a loss making format. So nothing is going to change.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Told you years ago, create a rival to ICC after collabing with countries otherwise kiss goodbye to the cricket. BCCI will leave non-Indian cricket as a joke and cricket will go as big-3's baseball.

A rival to ICC can succeed only if they ignore Test Cricket totally, ignore international cricket and just focus on T20s only and use the comparative advantage to play their players more.

 

[USofA]

Huh?

Why would anyone shift their league to match IPL timings?

No one will play in it, including their own players.

The top players for the most part do not play the other leagues anyway. The players not able to find an IPL team will be free during that time. So having the PSL, BPL etc during that time will be beneficial to these leagues.

Also these leagues are meant for the local audience. No one outside can relate to them for the most part. So they can run at the same time.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I understand that. But the $$ goes to ICC's bank accounts. They are the ones distributing the money. If they choose to give a chunk of it to the BCCI, its their problem. No fault of BCCI.

The members decided by voting on the revenue distribution.Since BCCI brings the bulk of revenue they get more.

If you read the OP, ICC is already facing a 100mn deficit and hence members will receive far less than originally promised.To make up the shortfall members again will be looking at BCCI for a tour.

Sorry but the situation is brought upon by boards who cannot make money.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

The top players for the most part do not play the other leagues anyway. The players not able to find an IPL team will be free during that time. So having the PSL, BPL etc during that time will be beneficial to these leagues.

Also these leagues are meant for the local audience. No one outside can relate to them for the most part. So they can run at the same time.

That's mental.

Most top T20 players play all the leagues they can and leagues won't even be able to count on their own players during IPL.

If you think no one outside the country watches you are sorely mistaken.

If you are one of those people dreaming of a T20 free future, dream on. It won't happen. We will have T20s all year long.

 

[Savak]

I think its fair. IPL is the biggest T-20 league in the world and this solution will make players around the world happy and lead to a very harmonious relationship b/w the players and their cricket boards and will also prevent players from becoming T-20 free lancers.

 

[big_gamer007]

Hmm that’s good I think there should be a 6 month league for T20 now something like Football or NBA or any other sports and then internationals should be played only once every 2 years tests vs a member nation and one days should only be limited to WC or CT or Asia cup or Asia vs Rest of the world kind of tournaments..

 

[Blitz]

I don't understand why the other boards would agree to it. What's in it for them?

IPL is a domestic tournament so the ICC and all other boards don't see a penny.

If anyone thinks there isn't some sort of corruption going on here, then they're deluded.

Even if some of the boards are worried some of their players will no show, its the players taking a reputational hit. The boards would lose millions in not playing a series for 2 months. What's going on?!

 

[maxamax]

I don't understand why the other boards would agree to it. What's in it for them?

IPL is a domestic tournament so the ICC and all other boards don't see a penny.

If anyone thinks there isn't some sort of corruption going on here, then they're deluded.

Even if some of the boards are worried some of their players will no show, its the players taking a reputational hit. The boards would lose millions in not playing a series for 2 months. What's going on?!

Big 3, silent because getting the bigger slices of pie.
Rest, majbor to follow so that their players dont end up leaving their XIs for IPL.
Pakistan, casted out.

 

[Allblacks2019]

Those sponsors could have boosted international cricket if used fairly. But a country is greedy enough to take it all and icc folks are ready to sell their souls for $$$.

So, Rest of the cricketing world with GDP per capita of 4 to 20 times of India want to funds from India to subsidize their cricket. But they are not greedy. Its only india which wants to use the it funds that is greedy.

Great logic.

 

[Allblacks2019]

What a pity to see this beautiful game that we adore a lot coming to this ..
power corrupts and absolutely power corrupts absolutely.. BCCI leaving no stone unturned to quench its greed. I never would have thought that we would ever come to this but then all good things in life have come to an end..

Meh. Its been exactly this for its entire existence. Including kicking USA out of the ICC a century ago and holding veto power for 90 years. mixing politics with cricket (Babri masjid boycott)

Only an ignorant person would thing it has ver been any thign alse.

 

[Aman]

Does this mean there will be more IPL teams since more international players are available?

 

[English August]

Excellent development if true and long overdue. I doubt it will happen though. ECB will cry, they always do. I remember they refused to provide NOC to their key players in the past.

 

[Bewal Express]

Excellent development if true and long overdue. I doubt it will happen though. ECB will cry, they always do. I remember they refused to provide NOC to their key players in the past.

And why should they. The ECB does not Indian money.

 

[HitWicket]

Excellent development if true and long overdue. I doubt it will happen though. ECB will cry, they always do. I remember they refused to provide NOC to their key players in the past.

Why don't the BCCI just avoid the conflict by moving the IPL by only 2 weeks?

 

[Allblacks2019]

Why don't the BCCI just avoid the conflict by moving the IPL by only 2 weeks?

You mean accommodate the colonial masters?

 

[Allblacks2019]

This is dumb move by BCCI. Allows other boards to complain about IPL length and scheduling and ask for IPL funds.

dumb Dumb move by BCCI . almost like Nehru and Indus water treaty

 

[HitWicket]

You mean accommodate the colonial masters?

No, I mean come to a compromise that gets both parties what they want.

 

[GBK_Fan]

Why will the other boards agree to this? I am dumbfounded by their inefficacy

 

[Allblacks2019]

No, I mean come to a compromise that gets both parties what they want.

Not exactly an equal trade. BCCI is better off not having a window. this way they can stick it to ECB and English players and create discontent between ECB and its players.

 

[maxamax]

So, Rest of the cricketing world with GDP per capita of 4 to 20 times of India want to funds from India to subsidize their cricket. But they are not greedy. Its only india which wants to use the it funds that is greedy.

Great logic.

If every country had this mindset then game was never going to go beyond two countries (Aus/Eng) as India initially wasnt a part of it. That is how global sports should work. After 50, 100, 200 years, there can be reduced interest in Indian cricket or Indian economy can get jolted leading to India having no profits in cricket while some other country can be rising just like BCCI. Would you want that other country to trash India and co like BCCI for their personal gains? How would you feel if that country only allows playing cricket in their country only? Wont it be killing the game? Game was expected to grow regardless of who's profiting more. But BCCI was more into having shots of quick profits instead by inducing flat tracks and star plus sort of leagues.

And we are not talking about Global GDP here but cricket alloted one and its an undeniable fact that India as boosted their cricketing economy while paralyzing other countries. Now even if some political entity interfares and assigns crazy budgets to Australian/Eng Cricket, it would only create another power center as there is no concept of equality among members of the ICC anymore.

 

[Allblacks2019]

If every country had this mindset then game was never going to go beyond two countries (Aus/Eng) as India initially wasnt a part of it. That is how global sports should work. After 50, 100, 200 years, there can be reduced interest in Indian cricket or Indian economy can get jolted leading to India having no profits in cricket while some other country can be rising just like BCCI. Would you want that other country to trash India and co like BCCI for their personal gains? How would you feel if that country only allows playing cricket in their country only? Wont it be killing the game? Game was expected to grow regardless of who's profiting more. But BCCI was more into having shots of quick profits instead by inducing flat tracks and star plus sort of leagues.

And we are not talking about Global GDP here but cricket alloted one and its an undeniable fact that India as boosted their cricketing economy while paralyzing other countries. Now even if some political entity interfares and assigns crazy budgets to Australian/Eng Cricket, it would only create another power center as there is no concept of equality among members of the ICC anymore.

You make it sound like India didn't get trashed in the past. India didn't whine like the other countries that Eng/Aus didn't share their money.

How exactly did india paralyze other countries? if any thing, india has been subsidizing cricket around the world. If india is not subsidizing world cricket, why is PCB whining so much about India not touring?

 

[moghul]

Just give a window to every Mickey Mouse League and get done with International cricket.

This will be the eventual result. RIP cricket, you had a good life until you died of BCCI.

 

[Allblacks2019]

This will be the eventual result. RIP cricket, you had a good life until you died of BCCI.

given that whatever financial security the game has ever had came thanks to BCCI, it can't that bad.

the best thing for the game would be throw BCCI out of ICC so all the true cricket fans can have their fill on their own dime.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Does this mean there will be more IPL teams since more international players are available?

No because the only teams this really affects are the teams that had few players in IPL to begin with.

Only BD, ZIM, AFG, and IRE play regular cricket during IPL window because they have 4-5 players in IPL combined. If this is implemented they cannot play during that window.

Its not a huge deal IMO.

The important thing is will the Test and ODI league happen and will it help the game.

 

[Allblacks2019]

No because the only teams this really affects are the teams that had few players in IPL to begin with.

Only BD, ZIM, AFG, and IRE play regular cricket during IPL window because they have 4-5 players in IPL combined. If this is implemented they cannot play during that window.

Its not a huge deal IMO.

The important thing is will the Test and ODI league happen and will it help the game.

Yu, dumb COA are messing up BCCI even more. hopefully srini can comeback to right the ship

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

My suggestion is that we should not have any international t20 cricket. Should only have ODI WC every 4 years. We should only have test cricket championship regularly so that the players will be encouraged to play test cricket if they want to dawn their national team caps. The top 5 test nations should get separate windows for their t20 leagues/tournaments which can then provide more 'context' to test cricket.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Yu, dumb COA are messing up BCCI even more. hopefully srini can comeback to right the ship

Srini is a plague. Even with CoA, BCCI is plenty capable of ruining the game if left to their devices. We are lucky the other 9 countries were able to push through the small financial and constitional reforms they could. Something is better than nothing.

 

[Allblacks2019]

Srini is a plague. Even with CoA, BCCI is plenty capable of ruining the game if left to their devices. We are lucky the other 9 countries were able to push through the small financial and constitional reforms they could. Something is better than nothing.

The other countries had nothing to do with it. this was self inflicted wound for india by indians of the likes of Manohar. Gonna be fun to see which country pays the price BCCI gets out of SC control.

 

[mummad]

without $$$ there is no game.

 

[mummad]

I would suggest that some of the other leagues like CPL, PSL and BPL should take advantage of this window and shift their leagues to April - May. This will not only ensure availability of players.

How this will ensure availability of players when top guns playing in IPL? This is like suicide.

 

[mummad]

Its not a huge deal IMO.

Agree. Even now barring England all other country main players available for IPL..Some players leave bit early for some series but that's getting managed easily.

 

[maxamax]

You make it sound like India didn't get trashed in the past. India didn't whine like the other countries that Eng/Aus didn't share their money.

How exactly did india paralyze other countries? if any thing, india has been subsidizing cricket around the world. If india is not subsidizing world cricket, why is PCB whining so much about India not touring?

No one did. Maybe minor politics of Aus/Eng block but no one did. Infact Pakistan supported India by touring and other stuff.

How? First by stealing sponsors, creating internal leagues and now robbing rights of other nations.

Whining? Because its our right to tour India at least once in a while regardless of gains. Not long ago India used to do same. Why is India pretending to play enemy all of a sudden?

 

[Madplayer]

I think every country should host their leagues in the same period as IPL and the respective boards should ask their international players to sign a contract regarding being available to play in their own indigenous leagues. This should make everything even.

 

[HitWicket]

Not exactly an equal trade. BCCI is better off not having a window. this way they can stick it to ECB and English players and create discontent between ECB and its players.

The ones who will generally be recalled after 80% of the tournament are the ones who are already on 7 figures salaries. In the last few years English, South African and New Zealand players have all had to leave early which all could have been avoided by a 2 week movement. I see it as a move that would benefit both sides.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Emotions aside, IPL/BCCI lobby are doing what any other capitalist firm would do: maximize their benefits.

I'm changing my opinion, death (or rather evolution) of cricket as we know it: the culprits ain't people of BCCI/IPL but the ICC is selling soul of cricket. It is ICC's greed, not BCCI's or IPL's.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/about <--- They should change their website's content. Because what they say they do and what they actually do are contrary things.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

I think every country should host their leagues in the same period as IPL and the respective boards should ask their international players to sign a contract regarding being available to play in their own indigenous leagues. This should make everything even.

That's idiotic.

Even if that worked, it would basically be a window for all countries to host a domestic T20.

The reality and obviously logical thing is that boards schedule leagues in gaps between other leagues so that league regulars always have something to play and they don't miss out on players who might want to play a different league.

 

[Madplayer]

That's idiotic.

Even if that worked, it would basically be a window for all countries to host a domestic T20.

Ofcourse it is idiotic if you understand it the way you did. I see it as the only way to force BCCI to come to the negotiating table to make possible the utopian and THE most obvious solution which you are suggesting, i.e. :

The reality and obviously logical thing is that boards schedule leagues in gaps between other leagues so that league regulars always have something to play and they don't miss out on players who might want to play a different league.

 

[shortbread]

What will happen if and when the other boards would start asking for an international cricket free window for their respective T20 leagues.

No surprise here. This is what they have wanted for a while. Most international teams deliberately didn't host series during this period.

May be IPL rejects and Pak can play a league of their own during those 2 months.

The solution is for the PSL to coincide with this window in the future. IPL can only absorb so many foreign cricketers and there are plenty of fish in the sea, especially since there's no International cricket going on. PCB owe the indians zilch and whats the worst that could happen? India not play against Pakistan.....well that's already the case, so there's nothing to lose!

If PCB masters such a move, it is a sign of standing up to bcci's bullying tactics. I am sure once one board paves the way others will follow.

I don't understand why the other boards would agree to it. What's in it for them?

IPL is a domestic tournament so the ICC and all other boards don't see a penny.

If anyone thinks there isn't some sort of corruption going on here, then they're deluded.

There's no need for corruption. The Boards must be fed up already of having to rearrange schedules so that their star players get to attend the IPL. The window means their players are happy and the issue of choosing between country and financial security does not arise. Also it raises their value/revenue as these players are available for the full tournament.

 

[Madplayer]

The solution is for the PSL to coincide with this window in the future. IPL can only absorb so many foreign cricketers and there are plenty of fish in the sea, especially since there's no International cricket going on. PCB owe the indians zilch and whats the worst that could happen? India not play against Pakistan.....well that's already the case, so there's nothing to lose!

If PCB masters such a move, it is a sign of standing up to bcci's bullying tactics. I am sure once one board paves the way others will follow.



There's no need for corruption. The Boards must be fed up already of having to rearrange schedules so that their star players get to attend the IPL. The window means their players are happy and the issue of choosing between country and financial security does not arise. Also it raises their value/revenue as these players are available for the full tournament.

Read my above post. Not just PSL, every other league should coincide with IPL. Preferably the boards should ask their main players to sign contracts to be available for their indegenous leagues. This is the only way to bring BCCI to the negotiating table.

 

[jagatk]

Read my above post. Not just PSL, every other league should coincide with IPL. Preferably the boards should ask their main players to sign contracts to be available for their indegenous leagues. This is the only way to bring BCCI to the negotiating table.

Problem with this idea is where will the money come from, ipl gives you a million $ contract no board can match that, not to mention other than Eng, Aus, Pak, every other big team will lose players in droves, a boult, a williamson or abd earn more in 2 months of ipl than what their boards can provide in years combined, One thing Packer Cricket proved is $ vs Principles, 9/10 $ wins.

And don't forget all boards do want that india series, do you really want to go to war over what is a minor issue for most countries barring england, as likes of NZ and maybe even SA already don't have bilaterals during ipl.

 

[jagatk]

The solution is for the PSL to coincide with this window in the future. IPL can only absorb so many foreign cricketers and there are plenty of fish in the sea, especially since there's no International cricket going on. PCB owe the indians zilch and whats the worst that could happen? India not play against Pakistan.....well that's already the case, so there's nothing to lose! .

That is good story to tell yourself on paper, but won't PSL basically become B league where all IPL rejects go as other than pak stars no real A-Listers will earn more in PSL than in IPL thus will chose ipl over psl.

 

[Rayyman]

Just make the schedule like football.

Have a period designated for T20s, ODIs and Tests.

Asian, African and Oceanic Test season would be from September-April. First two weeks of November and last two weeks of February can be designated for International friendlies (ODIs) and rest. Their T20 season (IPL, PSL, BPL, and BBL) would be from May-August. First two weeks of June and last two weeks of July can be designated for International friendlies (T20s) and rest.

Asia Cup (Ind, Pak,
Ban, SL, AFG) and South Cup (Aus, NZ, SA, Zim) can be held every two years in December-January. Format depending on which international tournament is being played that year.

While English and Caribbean Test season would be from March-October. First two weeks of May and last two weeks of August can be designated for International friendlies (ODIs) and rest. Their T20 season (Natwest and CPL) would be from November-February. First two weeks of December and last two weeks of January can be designated for International friendlies (T20s) and rest.

West Cup (Eng, Ire, WI,) can be held every two years in June-July. Format depending on which international tournament is being held that year.

Also, no restrictions on amount of foreign players in XI...

World Cup every four years, WT20 every four years, Asia, South and West Cups every two years.

Seems legit.

 

[shortbread]

Read my above post. Not just PSL, every other league should coincide with IPL. Preferably the boards should ask their main players to sign contracts to be available for their indegenous leagues. This is the only way to bring BCCI to the negotiating table.

No, primarily because on PCB has nothing to lose when confronting BCCI. For eg. the ECB could lose out on a lucrative deal to host India or perhaps the BCCI will cut short a 4 test, 5 one day series to 2 test, 3 match ODI series etc! The ECB will never schedule a t20 tournament that clashes with the IPL, neither will any other board.

PCB has nothing to lose, bcci have tried every rotten trick in the book so there's nothing worse to come. On the other hand the fear of having a successful tournament like PSL, steal some of IPL's limelight may encourage the indians to have a second look at cricketing relations.

That is good story to tell yourself on paper, but won't PSL basically become B league where all IPL rejects go as other than pak stars no real A-Listers will earn more in PSL than in IPL thus will chose ipl over psl.

The PSL started 8 years after the IPL, so being second or whatever is nothing to be ashamed of. It's better this ways rather than Pakistani stars be devoid of International cricket during this window. Plus all this a-lister nonsense makes no sense, there is plenty of cricket talent available out there.

 

[Zahid87]

No, primarily because on PCB has nothing to lose when confronting BCCI. For eg. the ECB could lose out on a lucrative deal to host India or perhaps the BCCI will cut short a 4 test, 5 one day series to 2 test, 3 match ODI series etc! The ECB will never schedule a t20 tournament that clashes with the IPL, neither will any other board.

PCB has nothing to lose, bcci have tried every rotten trick in the book so there's nothing worse to come. On the other hand the fear of having a successful tournament like PSL, steal some of IPL's limelight may encourage the indians to have a second look at cricketing relations.



The PSL started 8 years after the IPL, so being second or whatever is nothing to be ashamed of. It's better this ways rather than Pakistani stars be devoid of International cricket during this window. Plus all this a-lister nonsense makes no sense, there is plenty of cricket talent available out there.

In the quest for eyeballs and the subsequent advertising revenue, who is going to realistically watch the likes of Sam Billings and Sarfraz Ahmed when they can watch AB de Villiers and Virat Kohli.

No point in competing, especially when you are in the stages of building a product.

Boards would probably want this to go through - there is an unofficial window as it is, and now certain players will be guaranteed to be available through the whole period, and hence get higher contracts - the boards pocket 10% for providing the NOC.

 

[R0H1T]

Just make the schedule like football.

Have a period designated for T20s, ODIs and Tests.

Asian, African and Oceanic Test season would be from September-April. First two weeks of November and last two weeks of February can be designated for International friendlies (ODIs) and rest. Their T20 season (IPL, PSL, BPL, and BBL) would be from May-August. First two weeks of June and last two weeks of July can be designated for International friendlies (T20s) and rest.

Asia Cup (Ind, Pak,
Ban, SL, AFG) and South Cup (Aus, NZ, SA, Zim) can be held every two years in December-January. Format depending on which international tournament is being played that year.

While English and Caribbean Test season would be from March-October. First two weeks of May and last two weeks of August can be designated for International friendlies (ODIs) and rest. Their T20 season (Natwest and CPL) would be from November-February. First two weeks of December and last two weeks of January can be designated for International friendlies (T20s) and rest.

West Cup (Eng, Ire, WI,) can be held every two years in June-July. Format depending on which international tournament is being held that year.

Also, no restrictions on amount of foreign players in XI...

World Cup every four years, WT20 every four years, Asia, South and West Cups every two years.

Seems legit.

The problem with this is that ICC derives it's income from intl games & possibly the test/ODI leagues in the coming years. So whilst the national boards around the world are trying to monetize (domestic) T20 to increase their revenue the ICC is going the opposite direction.

The only reason BCCI can propose this is because the smaller nations cannot compete with the IPL juggernaut, not even ECB atm, so if the ICC doesn't declare a special window for IPL most other boards will still fall in line. They have to otherwise you get 2nd string teams & third class matches.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

The problem is finance...no tv producer will come forward to show it at the same time as IPL..The IPL tv rights are worth billions for a reason..

 

[mummad]

The solution is for the PSL to coincide with this window in the future. IPL can only absorb so many foreign cricketers and there are plenty of fish in the sea, especially since there's no International cricket going on..

IPL can simply expand to 12 teams..Increase foreign player quota to 5 players

No one can compete with IPL individually or combined.

 

[jagatk]

The PSL started 8 years after the IPL, so being second or whatever is nothing to be ashamed of. It's better this ways rather than Pakistani stars be devoid of International cricket during this window. Plus all this a-lister nonsense makes no sense, there is plenty of cricket talent available out there.

It is one thing to be second best among a few competitors and another to be trounced by the top guy, what you are talking about is the second part, also there may be fish in the water but there are whales and there is gold fish which one would you rather want.

Taking on IPL in their own Window will mean having b grade international players not good enough to even be fringe players in IPL teams plying their trade in Psl along side your international players is that what you want your premier t-20 competition to be known for.

 

[HitWicket]

Just make the schedule like football.

Have a period designated for T20s, ODIs and Tests.

Asian, African and Oceanic Test season would be from September-April. First two weeks of November and last two weeks of February can be designated for International friendlies (ODIs) and rest. Their T20 season (IPL, PSL, BPL, and BBL) would be from May-August. First two weeks of June and last two weeks of July can be designated for International friendlies (T20s) and rest.

Asia Cup (Ind, Pak,
Ban, SL, AFG) and South Cup (Aus, NZ, SA, Zim) can be held every two years in December-January. Format depending on which international tournament is being played that year.

While English and Caribbean Test season would be from March-October. First two weeks of May and last two weeks of August can be designated for International friendlies (ODIs) and rest. Their T20 season (Natwest and CPL) would be from November-February. First two weeks of December and last two weeks of January can be designated for International friendlies (T20s) and rest.

West Cup (Eng, Ire, WI,) can be held every two years in June-July. Format depending on which international tournament is being held that year.

Also, no restrictions on amount of foreign players in XI...

World Cup every four years, WT20 every four years, Asia, South and West Cups every two years.

Seems legit.

You want a t20 tournament to be played in England in November - February?

 

[Allblacks2019]

No one did. Maybe minor politics of Aus/Eng block but no one did. Infact Pakistan supported India by touring and other stuff.

How? First by stealing sponsors, creating internal leagues and now robbing rights of other nations.

Whining? Because its our right to tour India at least once in a while regardless of gains. Not long ago India used to do same. Why is India pretending to play enemy all of a sudden?

1) If Pakistan indeed supported india, they wouldn't have boycotted India after winning WC in 1992 over the Babri Masjid issue. PCB is always to out to screw BCCI.

2) a) Stealing sponsors? You know sponsors are massive organizations who make their decisions independent of what BCCI wants, right?. Sponsors do whats best for them.
b) Creating internal league is within BCCI right.Nothing illegal about it. Is county crckiet illegal?
c)Robbing: you mean other nations counc't provide sponsors what they needed?

3) Its is India's right to decide who they want to play: they have massive example in Pakistan exercising that right in the early 90's. .