North India vs South India

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Bengali food, in general, is horrible.

I don't know which low end restaurant you have been to, but I am happy that bengali food is not wasted on you anymore.

 

[TM Riddle]

I don't know which low end restaurant you have been to, but I am happy that bengali food is not wasted on you anymore.

It's the Bangladeshis who are to be blamed for the general bad reputation of bengali cuisine.Apparently most of the desi restaurants in Britain are owned by them and the food there in general is quite horrible adding to the stereotype.

 

[jusarrived]

My South Indian friends born in Delhi were no different to us. They were fun, happy and could converse with pretty girls confidently.

But the day I entered my college, my whole perception of South Indians changed. While they were polite, it was obvious that they didn't like us much. The only people they spent time with were other South Indians. Don't know if it was our intimidating physique or what, but something kept them out of our circles. I also found them quite selfish. They never shared their food, or homework, so we nicknamed them "Chatur" from 3 idiots.

Which northies have intimidating physique ? lol where do you get this from . Have you ever visited South ?

 

[jusarrived]

What's with southies and the annoying habit of only speaking their native language with someone from their region even in a group where most people can't follow them.Pisses me off.

Pisses you off cos you think every one needs to speak Hindi . Which language do northies converse normally , isnt it hindi ? Do you really care that there are loads of people in this country who dont understand Hindi ?

 

[jusarrived]

Warning ! Gross generalizations incoming >>>>>

Attitudes varies from state to state :

Tendency to Blurt out native tongue in mixed language groups:

Telugu>>>Tamil>Kannada>Malayalam

Tendency to stick only with native cuisine and overt pride in it :

Telugu>Kannada>Tamil>Kerala


Tendency to stick to same caste/religious groups :

Telugu=Kannada>Tamil>Kerala



Tendency to get into heated arguments :

Telugu>>>>>>Tamil=Kannada>=Kerala

Alcoholism/Weed/Smoking and similar unhealthy addictions

Kerala>>>Tamil>Telugu>Kannada

Thickness of native accent in English :

Telugu>Tamil>=kannada>=Kerala (Kerala & Kannada are VERY SLIGHTLY BETTER)

Religiosity:

Kannada>Telugu>Tamil>Kerala


Positive Attitude to hindi :

Kerala> Kannada=Telugu>>Tamil

Almost agree with everything but a few , been very generous to mallus .

Mallus drink a lot , but weed is not very popular among them . Neither do Telugus . Bangalore/Chennai sees far more abuse of junk .

Mallus definitely have the thickest accent , I think it was well known .

Tamils are little more religious than the rest imo .

 

[SandyB]

Have tried the porotta which is a poor man's paratha. but liked appam at a malabari restaurant. not fond of meat except fish so not aware of meat dishes..although bangla food has lots of meat dishes. Sweets, nothing can come close to bengali ones.
I have known some of your famous malayali people from close quarters, you will be surprised if I share personal pics with them.

Our fish (fresh water, seawater and backwater) and seafood cuisine (crabs, prawns, oysters, shrimp, squid ) is exquisite. We also have multiple ways of cooking fish unlike bengalis who part fry everything before you make any dish (I got this from my Bengali friends).

Apart from porotta (which is a recent entry) we have a lot of other mains like Puttu, tapioca, "Nool-Puttu" Pathiri etc, which are made from variying combinations if rice, maida, wheat and flour.

We only get idli dosa and sambhar here :/
Huge Sambhar fan here.

[MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] Which part of Indian do you live now ? There are huge variations in Idly-Dosa-Sambar and CHutney in the 4 states, especially when it comes to ingredients. Each state considers the other's idly and sambhar to suck. Except Kerala and tamils , whose are very similar.

Also the Moplah community didnt participate in the freedom struggle. There was one communal incident which is now whitewashed as the mophal rebellion, but it was based on hatred, not on patriotism. So I guess that explains the lack of patriotism still prevalent.

Are you talking about the Mapillah rebellion in 20s when the muslim tenants revolted against the Hindu landlords and soon the whole incident took the communal colour with hundreds dead?

There is an incredible period film called "1921" in malayalam that paints a pretty faithful picture of the whole incident. Even though it was started as a offshoot of the Khilafat movement, it soon took a communal turn. Though it began as a fight against the zamindari system , they rebels started attacking all hindus irrespective of caste. Many hindus were killed, forecefully converted and women raped, temples desecrated and vandalized in incidents that remind you of the inhumanity that would follow the partition in 1947. Christian communities weren't spared too.

This a reason why modern day malabar remains the most religiously conservative (both communities) and communally volatile regions of Kerala.

yes, what started as a class revolt became communal genocide, and the truth has been whitewashed, and you will see the kerala educated malayalees getting offended when the ugly truth is pointed out. Ambedkar, who was the most unbiased leader one could get, called it brutal and barbaric. In fact, the moplah community never participated in any freedom struggle yet this communal pogrom is counted under freedom struggle by the kerala darbari historians.

You know who did that ? One Mr gandhi. He was busy trying to unite Hindus - Muslims into the freedom movement by linking it with the Khilafat movements. Any narrative contradicting his aim was suppressed. Gandhi could not let a communal issue spread out in the south and undo the Hindu-Muslim alliance that he was trying so hard to form .

Ambedkar voiced the loudest protest against Gandhi's feigned ignorance of the atrocities in the rebellion. His support for "Khilafat" which aimed for a Caliphate , was deemed as anarchy and, the covering up of the riots was seen as "too hogh a price" to pay for Hindu-Muslim unity, by most kerala leaders.

 

[TM Riddle]

[MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] I'm in Jaipur atm.Pretty sure there are better restaurants but I'm just too lazy to venture out that deep in the city.

 

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You know who did that ? One Mr gandhi. He was busy trying to unite Hindus - Muslims into the freedom movement by linking it with the Khilafat movements. Any narrative contradicting his aim was suppressed. Gandhi could not let a communal issue spread out in the south and undo the Hindu-Muslim alliance that he was trying so hard to form .

Ambedkar voiced the loudest protest against Gandhi's feigned ignorance of the atrocities in the rebellion. His support for "Khilafat" which aimed for a Caliphate , was deemed as anarchy and, the covering up of the riots was seen as "too hogh a price" to pay for Hindu-Muslim unity, by most kerala leaders.

Gandhi has been the curse of India... Moplas never participated in freedom struggle, yet their barbarism is counted under freedom fight. I wonder if present day moplahs, who obviously had nothing to do with what happened in the past, glorify the barbaric act, or see it as a shameful blot on their history.

 

[Zahid87]

I don't know which low end restaurant you have been to, but I am happy that bengali food is not wasted on you anymore.

I am not counting food in so called Bangaldeshi owned 'Indian' Restaurants in the UK.

I have been to Dhaka. Have stayed there for a week. Food in general is oil laden. Eggs seem to be everyones favourite food.

I saw someone have an omlette with rice, and pour oil over it as some kind of 'sauce'.

I can't remember all the restuarants that I was taken to, but remember a place called Star Kebab. It was hyped so much. Hygiene was non-existent (which I found quite a lot in Dhaka), and the food horrible.

The only time I have ever enjoyed Bengali food was at a friends house here in the UK. His parents are from somewhere in West Bengal. They made Kosha Mangsho - some lamb curry, and that was good. Otherwise, everything else - terrible.

 

[jusarrived]

Again a lot of Generalisation here :

My fav state is Tamil Nadu . They come across as very rude , but relatively one you know them are more genuine. Like Kannadigas they screw their own people more than outsiders lol
I like Gujjus and Rajastanis after that . Hardworking no nonsense and adapt well . Maharastrains dont venture out much but are nice too . Mallus come next , harmless and easy going and they adapt well where ever they go , but on the flip side not the ones I would completely trust .

Bengalis , Haryana/delhi are easily on the bottom of every ones list . Bongs are the last people I would trust in general , they come across as very sly and the non stop whining makes you want to stay away from them .
The ones from NCR belt , the most insensitive lot in the country . Too many wannabes and extremely loud . Do these guys know you can be heard not being so loud in public ? and Guys need to stop wearing boxers in public too , its a freaking inner wear lol . I do have quite a few friends , but worst part is they never get some of these things are uncool .

 

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[MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] was the malayalam movie 1921 honest about the genocide? I would be surprised given the whitewashing and political climate in kerala.

 

[TM Riddle]

[MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] Agree with you there.Gandhi saw an opportunity in the dissatisfaction and angry protests that followed the breaking up of ottoman empire among Muslims of British India.Till then muslims had generally stayed away from the freedom movement barring few exceptions.Whether it be the pro British stance of Sir Syed Ahmed khan or the shimla delegation led by Nawab Salimullah of Dhaka and the eventual formation of Muslim league, the musalmans after the 1857 revolt chose not to side with the Hindus in the anti british struggle.This trend broke after the ww1 when the Khalifa was deposed by the British and the khilafat struggle began in India.Gandhi who saw it as an opportunity to unite the two major religions of India jumped in and incorporated the struggle in his non cooperation movement.He as you already mentioned before tried to downplay the mapillah rebellion as more of a class struggle and denied it having any communal elements choosing to turn his head away from the atrocities.He made the same mistake around the time of partition which resulted in death of millions.

 

[SandyB]

Almost agree with everything but a few , been very generous to mallus .

For one thing Mallus happen to be the most integrated and least visible of the Southern communities , once they are out of their native states/country. The reason for that is that we suppress our culture, language and fly pretty low until we are absolutely sure its safe ..

Do you find any mallu fight to justify his/her language a Telugu or Tamil would ?? In fact we'd give up our language first if that meant getting a better job or more money .. I still come across mallu families in Bangalore who say "please dont talk to us in malayalam".

All this sucking up, has seen most of our present generations unable to speak our language even decently. Steps to protect the language are being taken by the governments now. Hopefully things change.

Mallus drink a lot , but weed is not very popular among them . Neither do Telugus . Bangalore/Chennai sees far more abuse of junk .

Ha ha . That was all pre 2014, we have partial prohibition in the state now, all bars closed, half of sales outlets closed down .Drug use has skyrocketed almost 200%. We're the next punjab in that sense. We are looking at a major hooch tragedy or drug abuse tragedy within the next 3-4 years.

And almost every mallu who goes to bangalore is seen by our people as a drug addict. !

Mallus definitely have the thickest accent , I think it was well known .

That is disputed in my opinion. The past genrations (>30) have very thick accents. But given that Kerala has a marked preference to CBSE & ICSE schools over state syllabus compared to other states, the students coming out of such schools have a far more neutral accent . Given that TN and Andhra states have a degree admission system that heavily favours state syllabus students , most don't prefer CBSE/ICSE schooling. You find such students having a much thicker accent as well .

Tamils are little more religious than the rest imo .

That's subjective too. It all depends on caste. I interact mostly with tamils who are from OBC communities (majority in TN), their religiosity is not that evident compared to kannadigas (frequent temple visits, pure veggies mostly) and telugus (very specific days for eating non veg, girls regularly take Vraths) .

Especailly the ones from Coimbatore and border districts (Mallu influence maybe ) )

 

[SandyB]

[MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] was the malayalam movie 1921 honest about the genocide? I would be surprised given the whitewashing and political climate in kerala.

It portrays both sides effectively . This movie came out in the late 80's, before the present level of community appeasements started in Kerala . back then Keralites were less conservative and more socialist in nature and more willing to explore criticism of religion. That reflected in the quality of our films (our golden period was from 70's-80's) . This movie won't even get conceptualized in this era, the scriptwriter and director would get thrashed/threatened with death.

The lead characters are muslims, though but it addresses the communal nature the rebellion took, the rapes, slaughter and forced conversions. The original leaders of the rebellion are shown as faithful to the Khilafat, the communal violence emerged after it started attracting large followers.

[MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] Agree with you there.Gandhi saw an opportunity in the dissatisfaction and angry protests that followed the breaking up of ottoman empire among Muslims of British India.Till then muslims had generally stayed away from the freedom movement barring few exceptions.Whether it be the pro British stance of Sir Syed Ahmed khan or the shimla delegation led by Nawab Salimullah of Dhaka and the eventual formation of Muslim league, the musalmans after the 1857 revolt chose not to side with the Hindus in the anti british struggle.This trend broke after the ww1 when the Khalifa was deposed by the British and the khilafat struggle began in India.Gandhi who saw it as an opportunity to unite the two major religions of India jumped in and incorporated the struggle in his non cooperation movement.He as you already mentioned before tried to downplay the mapillah rebellion as more of a class struggle and denied it having any communal elements choosing to turn his head away from the atrocities.He made the same mistake around the time of partition which resulted in death of millions.

Gandhi did a fair bit of blunders, going after his vision of an unbroken India. We needed more pragmatic voices like that of Ambedkar there, when it came to addressing communalism. But he himself by virtue of his caste could never reach a level of influence Gandhi or Nehru had.

 

[TM Riddle]

Pisses you off cos you think every one needs to speak Hindi . Which language do northies converse normally , isnt it hindi ? Do you really care that there are loads of people in this country who dont understand Hindi ?

Calm down.There's no need to get your lungi in twist over a forum discussion.Hindi or English is not even the issue here.The point is it's annoying to see people suddenly start speaking in their native tongue whenever they see someone from their state or region.If northies do that then they are no better either.

 

[jusarrived]

Calm down.There's no need to get your lungi in twist over a forum discussion.Hindi or English is not even the issue here.The point is it's annoying to see people suddenly start speaking in their native tongue whenever they see someone from their state or region.If northies do that then they are no better either.

You never realized northies only speak in their native language ?

Northies do it , dont give me that if they do it .

 

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You never realized northies only speak in their native language ?

Northies do it , dont give me that if they do it .

Northies native tongue is hindi? LMAO. Their language is punjabi, rajasthani, awadhi, bhojpuri, maithili, urdu etc AND hindi.

 

[troodon]

I don't know which low end restaurant you have been to, but I am happy that bengali food is not wasted on you anymore.

Tried Bengali Food once. Just terrible.

The absolute worst food I ate was the Oriya food.

 

[Black Zero]

Just like Pakistan, india is a fake country.
both countries should be divided based on ethnicity, dress sense and preferred food.

 

[SandyB]

WARNING ! Potentially Generalized Observation :

Living for over a year in Bangalore, one thing I've noticed is that, the "Northie" mentality which some "southies" complain about (loud, aggressive or very outward behaviour, insistence on everyone else speaking hindi, highly expressive patriotism) usually only manifests in a group which contains people from the NCR, haryana and the typical hindi belt.

Otherwise I''ve come across individual or exclusive groups of Bengalis, Gujjus, Marathis who are pretty sedate and quiet. They don't mind mingling with southern people even with the pronounced cultural and dietary differences. They seem to try a lot more to integrate with us .

The native hindi speakers (Madhya Pradesh folk seem to be exceptions- they are very quiet) have a more "ganging up" tendency, and usually add all the non-south siders (except North Easterners) to their groups and then form a sort of Hindi - caucus at most places.

South Indians keep their distance because of mainly the unfamiliarity with hindi (especially true for Tamils) and the reluctance of the other side to converse in English, even in corporate (read Bangalore) environments where it is necessitated. Even though many south Indians have poor and/or very accented English , they still try to use it to converse among themselves a lot more.

 

[SandyB]

Just like Pakistan, india is a fake country.
both countries should be divided based on ethnicity, dress sense and preferred food.

Not fake but more like artificially formed.

You are at most 5 maybe 8 countries , but India is at-least 30-35 countries holding together somehow, and therein lies the challenge.

 

[Black Zero]

Not fake but more like artificially formed.

You are at most 5 maybe 8 countries , but India is at-least 30-35 countries holding together somehow, and therein lies the challenge.

I would still insist to use the term "fake" as term "artificial" carries lot of positive connotation (i.e. AI).

 

[enkidu_]

I respect Tamils, an old and great civilization.

 

[SandyB]

I would still insist to use the term "fake" as term "artificial" carries lot of positive connotation (i.e. AI).

Well, that's because the formation of these nations did have positive connotations.. !

What if Pakistan was 5-6 nations based only on linguistic and cultural lines as you said ?.. You'd spend all your tile being bullied around by Punjab like what China does to the other asian states ..

 

[Specialisttailender]

My South Indian friends born in Delhi were no different to us. They were fun, happy and could converse with pretty girls confidently.

But the day I entered my college, my whole perception of South Indians changed. While they were polite, it was obvious that they didn't like us much. The only people they spent time with were other South Indians. Don't know if it was our intimidating physique or what, but something kept them out of our circles. I also found them quite selfish. They never shared their food, or homework, so we nicknamed them "Chatur" from 3 idiots.

What is so intimidating about your physique ? South Indian students in Delhi, Mumbai and etc are generally from well educated upper caste families where their parents were well educated and carry some what an elitism(in their mind). They are also likely to look down up on their own South Indians. Ask some of North Indian brothers living in Chennai how everyone is.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Warning ! Gross generalizations incoming >>>>>

Attitudes varies from state to state :

Tendency to Blurt out native tongue in mixed language groups:

Telugu>>>Tamil>Kannada>Malayalam

Tendency to stick only with native cuisine and overt pride in it :

Telugu>Kannada>Tamil>Kerala


Tendency to stick to same caste/religious groups :

Telugu=Kannada>Tamil>Kerala



Tendency to get into heated arguments :

Telugu>>>>>>Tamil=Kannada>=Kerala

Alcoholism/Weed/Smoking and similar unhealthy addictions

Kerala>>>Tamil>Telugu>Kannada

Thickness of native accent in English :

Telugu>Tamil>=kannada>=Kerala (Kerala & Kannada are VERY SLIGHTLY BETTER)

Religiosity:

Kannada>Telugu>Tamil>Kerala


Positive Attitude to hindi :

Kerala> Kannada=Telugu>>Tamil

Malayalees have the thickest accent when they speak in English. Tamils speak so fast and I'm guilty of that.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Again a lot of Generalisation here :

My fav state is Tamil Nadu . They come across as very rude , but relatively one you know them are more genuine. Like Kannadigas they screw their own people more than outsiders lol
I like Gujjus and Rajastanis after that . Hardworking no nonsense and adapt well . Maharastrains dont venture out much but are nice too . Mallus come next , harmless and easy going and they adapt well where ever they go , but on the flip side not the ones I would completely trust .

Bengalis , Haryana/delhi are easily on the bottom of every ones list . Bongs are the last people I would trust in general , they come across as very sly and the non stop whining makes you want to stay away from them .
The ones from NCR belt , the most insensitive lot in the country . Too many wannabes and extremely loud . Do these guys know you can be heard not being so loud in public ? and Guys need to stop wearing boxers in public too , its a freaking inner wear lol . I do have quite a few friends , but worst part is they never get some of these things are uncool .

Where have you been in Tamil Nadu bro ?

 

[Zak_Fan]

What is so intimidating about your physique ? South Indian students in Delhi, Mumbai and etc are generally from well educated upper caste families where their parents were well educated and carry some what an elitism(in their mind). They are also likely to look down up on their own South Indians. Ask some of North Indian brothers living in Chennai how everyone is.

Yeah, most of us were considerably beefier than your average South Indian student, so I guess that might have intimidated them. As for elitism, not quite...the attitude was rather meek and submissive.

 

[CricketCartoons]

A tamil person saved me when I was at the lowest in my life.. gave me accommodation and food till i needed and arranged for my travel. a malayali person ditched me and left me high and dry. So it is 50-50 for me so far.

Among northies I will never trust delhi people, very sweet talkers but sly. 100% negative experience with them.

 

[TM Riddle]

A tamil person saved me when I was at the lowest in my life.. gave me accommodation and food till i needed and arranged for my travel. a malayali person ditched me and left me high and dry. So it is 50-50 for me so far.

Among northies I will never trust delhi people, very sweet talkers but sly. 100% negative experience with them.

Punjabis or Haryanvis?

 

[Black Zero]

A tamil person saved me when I was at the lowest in my life.. gave me accommodation and food till i needed and arranged for my travel. a malayali person ditched me and left me high and dry. So it is 50-50 for me so far.

Among northies I will never trust delhi people, very sweet talkers but sly. 100% negative experience with them.

I would not call it 50-50% as ditching is expecte, however helping someone needs lot of effort.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Punjabis or Haryanvis?

Punjabis, not sikhs.

 

[troodon]

Yeah, most of us were considerably beefier than your average South Indian student, so I guess that might have intimidated them. As for elitism, not quite...the attitude was rather meek and submissive.

LOL That's BS.

North Indians and beefier? Please man.

I found South Indians on average taller than North Indians. Most North Indians are short. This includes Pubjabis too. People from UP are extremely short. Not one is taller than 5'9". Avergae height seems to be 5'6" at best. Same with Biharis and Bengalis. Very short people.

People from Andhra Pradesh and Kerala are taller on average than the so called Beefier Northies.

North Indians are chubbier than Southies. Unwanted fat in waist and face. Kind of smiliar to Pakistanis.

 

[JaDed]

Just like Pakistan, india is a fake country.
both countries should be divided based on ethnicity, dress sense and preferred food.

Why does it matter to Canadians?Get yourself divided first.

 

[Pakistanian]

Neither of them. The FOBs from both parts of India are just as rude and annoying.

 

[Zak_Fan]

LOL That's BS.

North Indians and beefier? Please man.

I found South Indians on average taller than North Indians. Most North Indians are short. This includes Pubjabis too. People from UP are extremely short. Not one is taller than 5'9". Avergae height seems to be 5'6" at best. Same with Biharis and Bengalis. Very short people.

People from Andhra Pradesh and Kerala are taller on average than the so called Beefier Northies.

North Indians are chubbier than Southies. Unwanted fat in waist and face. Kind of smiliar to Pakistanis.

Whatever floats your boat.

As for height, only Keralites are comparable to Punjab, Haryana, Jammu & Kashmir and Rajasthan. Rest of the South Indian states are considerably shorter.

 

[CricketCartoons]

What I also hate is the loud and noisy songs played in north in a language I don't understand, and usually in a high pitch voice which is almost feminine. Was at a bar last weekend and girls demanded that I join them on the dance floor, because I am usually sitting in a corner checking PP on my phone. But I told them get rid of these punjabi songs if you want me to dance with you girls. Don't know how a culturally rich country let itself be dominated by mohajir songs, that too in discos. Always gets on my nerves.

 

[troodon]

Whatever floats your boat.

As for height, only Keralites are comparable to Punjab, Haryana, Jammu & Kashmir and Rajasthan. Rest of the South Indian states are considerably shorter.

Sorry bro.

North Indians are lighter skin toned on average.

But calling them beefier and taller is stretching it. North Indians from my observation are shorter and chubbier. That's all. Only Punjabis tend to be taller. Even among them I found majority of them to be short. Not more than 5'8".

I go in many agroups here in US and know hundreds of people from Andhra, Delhi, Punjab, UP, Kerala, Tamilnadu etc. I can tell you there is no difference in height. If any, Southies are slightly taller than Northies.

But Northies are lot more chubbier. Teddy Bear'esque.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Sorry bro.

North Indians are lighter skin toned on average.

But calling them beefier and taller is stretching it. North Indians from my observation are shorter and chubbier. That's all. Only Punjabis tend to be taller. Even among them I found majority of them to be short. Not more than 5'8".

I go in many agroups here in US and know hundreds of people from Andhra, Delhi, Punjab, UP, Kerala, Tamilnadu etc. I can tell you there is no difference in height. If any, Southies are slightly taller than Northies.

But Northies are lot more chubbier. Teddy Bear'esque.

Stats will surely be more dependable than your observation brother.
https://www.princeton.edu/rpds/pape...tribution_of_adult_heights_in_India_AERPP.pdf

Also, keep in mind that I am not comparing North-South uncles and aunties. School and college students in Delhi/Chandigarh (places I got my education) these days are built. South Indian students in comparison look considerably smaller.

 

[troodon]

Stats will surely be more dependable than your observation brother.
https://www.princeton.edu/rpds/pape...tribution_of_adult_heights_in_India_AERPP.pdf

Also, keep in mind that I am not comparing North-South uncles and aunties. School and college students in Delhi/Chandigarh (places I got my education) these days are built. South Indian students in comparison look considerably smaller.

Checked your link.

Only people from Rajasthan, Punjab, J & K & Haryana are taller than Andhra.

People from UP/MP are all shorter.

Also, It seems average Male height in AP is 165 cm while in Punjab is 168 cm. Frickin 3 cm difference. Not much to choose from.

Hard to believe people are this short all over the country. Coming to me, I am 179 cm and I am not even the tallest in my own class of Engineering in 2000. There were at least 7 or 8 of them taller than me in my own class and our class had a strength of about 28.

Even in my own family, my brother is taller than me. He is about 1-2 cms taller than me.

Sad state of affairs in India. We are a bunch of short and malnourished people. Here in US, the average females seem to be more than 165 cms.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Stats will surely be more dependable than your observation brother.
https://www.princeton.edu/rpds/pape...tribution_of_adult_heights_in_India_AERPP.pdf

Also, keep in mind that I am not comparing North-South uncles and aunties. School and college students in Delhi/Chandigarh (places I got my education) these days are built. South Indian students in comparison look considerably smaller.

Thanks for the stats.
males:

Punjab 168.6
Rajasthan 167.5
Delhi 165.8
Bihar 163.8


Kerala 168.3
Karnataka 166
Tamil Nadu 165.8
Andhra Pradesh 165

I think it is the migrant population from UP and Bihar which brings down the average height of Delhi.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Sad state of affairs in India. We are a bunch of short and malnourished people. Here in US, the average females seem to be more than 165 cms.

No need to be embarrassed by short height. Look at the japanese and what they have achieved.

 

[troodon]

Thanks for the stats.
males:

Punjab 168.6
Rajasthan 167.5
Delhi 165.8
Bihar 163.8


Kerala 168.3
Karnataka 166
Tamil Nadu 165.8
Andhra Pradesh 165

I think it is the migrant population from UP and Bihar which brings down the average height of Delhi.

Loads of Biharis in South too. Almost all major cities have a huge population from Bihar/Orissa. Most are daily laborers.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Loads of Biharis in South too. Almost all major cities have a huge population from Bihar/Orissa. Most are daily laborers.

Found biharis to be highly intellectual people, of course the educated ones. Maybe just after Bengalis and Tamils.

 

[troodon]

Found biharis to be highly intellectual people, of course the educated ones. Maybe just after Bengalis and Tamils.

Bihrais work as either District Collectors or Daily laborers. No in between for them. Smart ones escape from that hell hole.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Checked your link.

Only people from Rajasthan, Punjab, J & K & Haryana are taller than Andhra.

People from UP/MP are all shorter.

Also, It seems average Male height in AP is 165 cm while in Punjab is 168 cm. Frickin 3 cm difference. Not much to choose from.

Hard to believe people are this short all over the country. Coming to me, I am 179 cm and I am not even the tallest in my own class of Engineering in 2000. There were at least 7 or 8 of them taller than me in my own class and our class had a strength of about 28.

Even in my own family, my brother is taller than me. He is about 1-2 cms taller than me.

Sad state of affairs in India. We are a bunch of short and malnourished people. Here in US, the average females seem to be more than 165 cms.

Stats are a bit old though. Also, it has a lot to do with the income groups. An average 18 year student who can afford a good education and diet is nearly 175 cm in cities, while the lower income groups are a lot shorter.

Anyway, my statement was more about a good physique being a craze among students in North, while priorities being different for most South Indians.

 

[troodon]

Stats are a bit old though. Also, it has a lot to do with the income groups. An average 18 year student who can afford a good education and diet is nearly 175 cm in cities, while the lower income groups are a lot shorter.

Anyway, my statement was more about a good physique being a craze among students in North, while priorities being different for most South Indians.

You must be talking about elites and rich. They always tend to be taller and well built compared to Middle class and poor irrespective of State.

 

[Zak_Fan]

You must be talking about elites and rich. They always tend to be taller and well built compared to Middle class and poor irrespective of State.

True, but my initial argument wasn't about height, but size. North Indian kids, specially from the regions I mentioned are getting more and more obsessed with physique, and that really does exaggerate their appearance as compared to an average South Indian student.

 

[troodon]

True, but my initial argument wasn't about height, but size. North Indian kids, specially from the regions I mentioned are getting more and more obsessed with physique, and that really does exaggerate their appearance as compared to an average South Indian student.

6 Pack culture is also pretty rampant among elites and rich in South. Just go to Posh areas of Hyderabad or Bangalore, you will many youngsters who are well built and wear tight t-shirts to show off.

 

[Specialisttailender]

As usual Delhi boys are full of themselves )

 

[CricketCartoons]

As usual Delhi boys are full of themselves )

True that. had a tiff with one delhi guy who boarded the same cab I had halted and wanted the driver to drop him first. When I told him to calm down, he started talking in an alien language...itthe utthe twade tenu mainu saada shehr chale aunde.. I did not understand any of it, so gave him the choicest abuses picked from gangs of waaseypur. told him you go back to pakistan where you came from, or be thankful to us who are allowing you to stay here. since then have adopted a zero tolerance policy to these guys who think delhi belongs to them and they are some superior race.

 

[Musakhel]

Checked your link.

Only people from Rajasthan, Punjab, J & K & Haryana are taller than Andhra.

People from UP/MP are all shorter.

Also, It seems average Male height in AP is 165 cm while in Punjab is 168 cm. Frickin 3 cm difference. Not much to choose from.

Hard to believe people are this short all over the country. Coming to me, I am 179 cm and I am not even the tallest in my own class of Engineering in 2000. There were at least 7 or 8 of them taller than me in my own class and our class had a strength of about 28.

Even in my own family, my brother is taller than me. He is about 1-2 cms taller than me.

Sad state of affairs in India. We are a bunch of short and malnourished people. Here in US, the average females seem to be more than 165 cms.

It's mostly genetic, Senegal a poor west african country has an average male height of 5'9 which is the same as usa and uk, now imagine these guys with better healthcare and better standard of living.

 

[Specialisttailender]

True that. had a tiff with one delhi guy who boarded the same cab I had halted and wanted the driver to drop him first. When I told him to calm down, he started talking in an alien language...itthe utthe twade tenu mainu saada shehr chale aunde.. I did not understand any of it, so gave him the choicest abuses picked from gangs of waaseypur. told him you go back to pakistan where you came from, or be thankful to us who are allowing you to stay here. since then have adopted a zero tolerance policy to these guys who think delhi belongs to them and they are some superior race.

Tell me more stories bro.

 

[kukkad kamaal]

Went to Gurgaon last December. Really hated that place. People are so rude. I saw many people with lighter skin tone there, but I don't see much difference in height

 

[SandyB]

A tamil person saved me when I was at the lowest in my life.. gave me accommodation and food till i needed and arranged for my travel. a malayali person ditched me and left me high and dry. So it is 50-50 for me so far.

I would not call it 50-50% as ditching is expecte, however helping someone needs lot of effort.

[MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] Lesson no.1 Malayalis always save their own skin first. No bhai-bhai ,macha-macha stuff untill we're assured of our own safety. The first thing our parents teach us malayalis about going outside our state is not to trust any fellow malayali blindly. Our people usually consider Tamils more dependable than our own kind. Then again our people are not likely to intrude/pretend to help in other peoples affairs that much. So we're neither giving help nor harm in most situations.

A lot of this has to do with being raised in an overpopulated state with fewer jobs, so everyone is in the rat race right from your Kindergarten classes.

Thanks for the stats.
males:

Punjab 168.6
Rajasthan 167.5
Delhi 165.8
Bihar 163.8


Kerala 168.3
Karnataka 166
Tamil Nadu 165.8
Andhra Pradesh 165

Pretty enligtening. Didn't know our people were this tall .

Haven't seen any short punjabi's at all. All are pushing 5.10 or 6 feet . Even the women are huge , and very intimidating ..

No need to be embarrassed by short height. Look at the japanese and what they have achieved.

As the saying in Kerala goes, "Daughter ! The TV's may come in 21, 32 or 48 inches, but the remotes are always the same size " .

Found biharis to be highly intellectual people, of course the educated ones. Maybe just after Bengalis and Tamils.

Agree, the educated ones seem more quiet and reserved compared to the other Hindi-beletrs. And very balanced in their perspectives.

Anyway, my statement was more about a good physique being a craze among students in North, while priorities being different for most South Indians.

True. A fit physique is a must among most student/professional North indians, both men and women , the gyms in Bangalore are full of them . Whereas most south guys hit gyms only once they get super unfit or after a break up . And South girls are very less into fitness stuff unless they are quite a few years into marriage and child rearing and wanna regain their pre-marriage body .

South Indians view gym as a corrective tool rather than the "preventive" sense in which North indians use .

Again : Family status, educational qualifications and salary supersede fitness for most southie arranged marriages, so no girl is gonna reject a guy for a few extra carbs.

 

[CricketCartoons]

[MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] Lesson no.1 Malayalis always save their own skin first. No bhai-bhai ,macha-macha stuff untill we're assured of our own safety. The first thing our parents teach us malayalis about going outside our state is not to trust any fellow malayali blindly. Our people usually consider Tamils more dependable than our own kind. Then again our people are not likely to intrude/pretend to help in other peoples affairs that much. So we're neither giving help nor harm in most situations.

I was played. Taken for a ride. Used and abused. I tried to learn malayalam for that low life..and learnt to sing njan kettiya penninithiri... they were very famous names in kerala and i know their dirty family secrets. From then I am malayali hater and hate everything about them.

 

[SandyB]

I was played. Taken for a ride. Used and abused. I tried to learn malayalam for that low life..and learnt to sing njan kettiya penninithiri... they were very famous names in kerala and i know their dirty family secrets. From then I am malayali hater and hate everything about them.

Ha ha . Gotcha !.So your dislike for mallu's arises from being dumped. That explains some of your posts too . !!

Typical .. Mallu women are the most complex of all south indian girls. And you have a very high chance of getting punked by them ..

Even with the educational empowerment & freedom of employment they enjoy , many malayali girls are still put on a leash by their patriarchial parents / society, especially when it comes to relationships/sexual freedom. For most mallu girls, a life outside Kerala is an opportunity to enjoy life away from the leash.

They would be very outgoing and easy with relationships, but what happens outside Kerala, will rarely be taken back to kerala ! Mallu parents are smart too, we don't have honour killings in our society, but our parents cut the girls off financially and deny them share of their property as soon as they disapprove of her relationships.

So most Kerala girls play it smart and dump the outsider as soon as its time for a proper arranged marriage. Not because we love our parents, but for the share !

Sorry for offending [MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] and other kerala girls here (?) , but this willingness to get into relationships with outer staters and then dumping them for an arranged marriage, is a quality I've seen more in Keralites, compared to other southies. Maybe our society has a lot to do with that .

and learnt to sing njan kettiya penninithiri...

Beware ! People who dig drivel like that are the TDC's of mallus. Stay away.! The classy ones only sing proper malayalam movie songs or rock music by Avial and such bands.

 

[TM Riddle]

How come so many mallus in the nursing profession?

 

[CricketCartoons]

They would be very outgoing and easy with relationships, but what happens outside Kerala, will rarely be taken back to kerala ! Mallu parents are smart too, we don't have honour killings in our society, but our parents cut the girls off financially and deny them share of their property as soon as they disapprove of her relationships.

So most Kerala girls play it smart and dump the outsider as soon as its time for a proper arranged marriage. Not because we love our parents, but for the share !

Sorry for offending [MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] and other kerala girls here (?) , but this willingness to get into relationships with outer staters and then dumping them for an arranged marriage, is a quality I've seen more in Keralites, compared to other southies. Maybe our society has a lot to do with that .

Exact description of your fellow malayali. Comes to me because she was jealous of a girl who was friends with me..later tries to control me and says she is possessive of me. then emotionally blackmails me and cries and says say that you love me.. finally i give in..start a romantic relation.. suddenly when it comes to marriage, hey my parents are cool, but will you convert? I said ok I will convert, bought her religious book and read it fully. tried learning her language. Hey, I like all that but we only marry in a particular sect.. You know I havent been a good daughter, so don't want to let my parents down again. They have done so much for me. I was like ok, why didnt you ask for their permission when you came to me like a despo. But we can be friends na..see I am so open with you and you are my bestest friend. then an arranged marriage happens and she calls me to say how nice the guy is..hey can you send me pics of your hand, i want to show to my fiance that your palm is bigger. WTH. Calls me to say hey, guess what..we are sitting exactly at the place where I was sitting with you.. then..hey you are going to be a mama soon. I told her cut the crap..but why, you are my bestest friend..no, your husband should be your bestest friend.. stop making a mamu of both of us and get the hell out of my life. Then start accusations..oh it is for some girl in your life?..hey btw do you still have that tattoo of my name?. Glad that i was saved from this cunning malayali, but regret the loss of years wasted. I know many secrets of her corrupt and famous family..and someday if I lose my cool, I would make it public.

 

[SandyB]

How come so many mallus in the nursing profession?

Nursing implies helping , caring for and assisiting a sick person/weak . Duties which are considered "lower" to most Indians (read Hindus) in most other states. Especially for upper castes and most OBCs.

Most Indians would therefore traditionally shy away from a position that would involve touching and caring people irrespective of caste.

In Kerala's case, the concept of modern healthcare reached us much earlier than most other states via christian missionaries, who made it a point to distribute it IRRESPECTIVE of CASTE.

This brought about the image that nursing was a "noble profession". Gradually the converted Christians ( syrian christians - upper caste converts from 400 AD & missionary converts who were mostly OBCs) started following the same path, as Nursing was a high paying profession and earned good respect overseas, and was seen as a viable path for improving quality of life and migrating to USA/Europe or getting high paying jobs in the Middle east (which is what all keralites want anyways !)

Moving to the early 70's, As the OBCs & Dalits (numerically almost 35-40% of kerala) started seeing poor-low income Christian families getting very rich and prosperous all of a sudden, they too started seeing their women folk as potential tickets out of their poor financial condition. So they started pushing for nursing too. This was met with a lot of Resistance initially, as hindu women- treating men outside their families was deemed blasphemous byexisting society.

I have heard stories about how much my Grandfather was demonized by our relatives for sending both his daughters to Bombay to study nursing back in the early 70's. They all feared them marrying an outsider or worse converting to christianity.

This set up a chain reaction among keralites which continues to this day .

Even the upper caste "Nairs" who scoffed at sending their women to nursing (for reasons stated in previous para) , after the 90's have themselves started taking up nursing as a viable profession for their women. So have the muslims of Kerala . The Brahmins still stay away from the profession, while being receptive to becoming Doctor's (which would mean less physical contact with people compared to a nurse).

Nursing profession by far remains a reason why large sections of Kerala Christians and OBC's have pushed themselves to middle class and upper middle class living standards.


So sumamrising why mallus dominate nursing profession :

1) Nursing profession was a tool of financial upliftment for lower classes/castes.
2) Huge potential of high income & migrating overseas
3) The need for high paying jobs was good enough to supersede religious/caste compulsions among poor hindu and Muslim communities .
4) Long presence of Christianity that helped elevate the profession to a position of nobility.

 

[kaayal]

Ha ha . Gotcha !.So your dislike for mallu's arises from being dumped. That explains some of your posts too . !!

Typical .. Mallu women are the most complex of all south indian girls. And you have a very high chance of getting punked by them ..

Even with the educational empowerment & freedom of employment they enjoy , many malayali girls are still put on a leash by their patriarchial parents / society, especially when it comes to relationships/sexual freedom. For most mallu girls, a life outside Kerala is an opportunity to enjoy life away from the leash.

They would be very outgoing and easy with relationships, but what happens outside Kerala, will rarely be taken back to kerala ! Mallu parents are smart too, we don't have honour killings in our society, but our parents cut the girls off financially and deny them share of their property as soon as they disapprove of her relationships.

So most Kerala girls play it smart and dump the outsider as soon as its time for a proper arranged marriage. Not because we love our parents, but for the share !

Sorry for offending [MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] and other kerala girls here (?) , but this willingness to get into relationships with outer staters and then dumping them for an arranged marriage, is a quality I've seen more in Keralites, compared to other southies. Maybe our society has a lot to do with that .



Beware ! People who dig drivel like that are the TDC's of mallus. Stay away.! The classy ones only sing proper malayalam movie songs or rock music by Avial and such bands.

Tbh i agree with you. This is not exclusive for outsiders but they generally does this to our malayali boys too....

Muslims girls will never get married to other religion guys or atheists.

Nair girls will always make sure that they get engaged to a guy of same caste or higher caste like the namboothiris, pattaru etc. They are severely obsessed with caste and always hold this grudge against SC/ST's for obtaining seats through reservation.

Christian girls especially the Kottayam achayitis (and also the achayans) are only concerned about money. They have the worst reputation of dumping of all the keralite girls.

OBC and SC/ST girls are pretty chilled unless they are uber rich.SC girl family always prefer their daughter to be married in the same caste because of the fear of ridiculing from in-laws.

Ofcouse exceptions are there but this is what i observed after interacting with most of them in college and hostel.

 

[big_gamer007]

I think nobody here has mentioned kerala as some "saint" state free of any violence instead everyone has been saying that it is much better than any other state in India in social indicators irrespective of its problems..understand the difference first..

Coming to the RSS killing, both the Communist and BJP-RSS supporters are on each others neck whenever they meet..esp in north kerala. While you highlighted the RSS deaths, you conveniently ignored the fare number of communist party workers who lost their death in these conflict. These are some utter ignorant supporters who don't have any value for life. Both of them have special quotation gangs for political killing...this has been occuring for years there and nobody gives a damn about this considering the amount of period this has been going on..which is pathetic tbh.

MIND YOU THIS IS/WAS NEVER A HINDU MUSLIM THING TO BEGIN WITH.

And no where did i mention kerala is free of any isis supporters. I have always addressed this problem but the way this is presented here as some state fully infested of isis pigs is what i am arguing with. Say anything you want but the 7.8 million Kerala muslims are one of the most hardworking people in India who contribute to its growth by remittance. They are proud of their land,.people and religion irrespective of those 22 nut cases that have tarnished our image forever.... the state and NIA has also taking significant measures to tackle them and the religios leaders are openly condemning these isis supporters in every platform they get including the jumua prayer,meetings etc. Still if we are an ISIS state then be it.

And regarding BJP, my hatred has arisen from the fact that the Amit shah led BJP and it's supporters are fighting their tooth and nail to inject this communal hatred in our society. And the whole media national media/bjp media and local media (asianet news) which is being brought by them is now presenting their agenda as Kerala is some radical state "full of isis supporters", the next Saudi, We don't respect hinduism by eating beef and what not??

We as a community is/was peacefully living here for majority of our life. In the name of garnering vote and power, bjp and allies are creating huge divide between us and the toothless muslim organisations like SDPI and PDP are not helping it by playing to their hands....

I am not sure what post you read but I didn't say anything about RSS-Comunists fight coz I have no clue about that..

No one is saying Kerala is a bad state or anything but Islamic radicalism is more in Kerala compared to other states, it is still a very few minority people so no we are not generalising the entire state..

Also if you read my post which you quoted i mentioned Kerala or south in general does not get much footage in news channels in North.. You are saying news at your part is RSS driven and is making you guys look like a radicalised state? WE DONT GET the same news here, we might get a little bit news but most of the news here is based on Congress-BJP fight, AAP antics, Anti-Pakistan, Kashmir issue..

Kerala or South in general get very less air time compared to the above 4 mentioned topics.. So even if what you are saying about BJP spreading false news is right they are not spreading that across PAN India in mass they are spreading it in your part..

I agree with you regarding BJP, they should have kept laws separate from religion and not indulge in stupid politics about beef and stuff..

 

[SandyB]

Tbh i agree with you. This is not exclusive for outsiders but they generally does this to our malayali boys too....

Muslims girls will never get married to other religion guys or atheists.

Nair girls will always make sure that they get engaged to a guy of same caste or higher caste like the namboothiris, pattaru etc. They are severely obsessed with caste and always hold this grudge against SC/ST's for obtaining seats through reservation.

Christian girls especially the Kottayam achayitis (and also the achayans) are only concerned about money. They have the worst reputation of dumping of all the keralite girls.

OBC and SC/ST girls are pretty chilled unless they are uber rich.SC girl family always prefer their daughter to be married in the same caste because of the fear of ridiculing from in-laws.

Ofcouse exceptions are there but this is what i observed after interacting with most of them in college and hostel.

Ha ha All Very True. !

Myself, a victim of a semi-ditching by a Kottayam/pala achayathi saar. !. But this was while working in Kerala though. Luckily i hadn't suckered enough to commit myself at her feet. So the fallout was minimal. . The sudden change in tone and attitude was so alarming, faster than it took Jesus christ to resurrect

It's their sweet and playful accent (ennathanne, enna ondenney !) You feel like trusting everything they say .. NEVER AGAIN !!

 

[SandyB]

I am not sure what post you read but I didn't say anything about RSS-Comunists fight coz I have no clue about that..

No one is saying Kerala is a bad state or anything but Islamic radicalism is more in Kerala compared to other states, it is still a very few minority people so no we are not generalising the entire state..

Also if you read my post which you quoted i mentioned Kerala or south in general does not get much footage in news channels in North.. You are saying news at your part is RSS driven and is making you guys look like a radicalised state? WE DONT GET the same news here, we might get a little bit news but most of the news here is based on Congress-BJP fight, AAP antics, Anti-Pakistan, Kashmir issue..

Kerala or South in general get very less air time compared to the above 4 mentioned topics.. So even if what you are saying about BJP spreading false news is right they are not spreading that across PAN India in mass they are spreading it in your part..

I agree with you regarding BJP, they should have kept laws separate from religion and not indulge in stupid politics about beef and stuff..

I need to make one thing absolutely clear here. It WAS, IS & REMAINS a TWO WAY STREET !

I lived for 1.5 years in rural Kannur -the epicenter of the RSS CPM clashes. In the period of my stay 2014-late 2015 , I saw 6 explosions, 3 murders, 6-8 hackings and 8 Hartals by either CPM or the RSS and occasionally the Muslim league! The thing you don't see is that , the killings (as described by Kannur citizens themselves) work like a football scoreboard - 1-0, 1-1, 1-2, 2-2.. You kill one person on one side, within 12-24 hours max, a person of same party rank and experience is killed on the other side.

Till the late 90's, the CPM and RSS shakhas used to maintain LITERAL SCOREBOARDS enlisting the body count on either side. It is as close to a political hellhole as you will get in Kerala.

The people there are generally less financially well off and poorly educated, and are ready to lap up whatever the shakhas (CPM and RSS) teach them. Both parties maintain gangs of well trained goons trained in Kalari-Payattu and loaded up with Drugs and Liquor. Ready to start hacking on command from the top brass. You often hear poor party workers getting killed in the process of manufacturing home-made petrol bombs and molotovs !

CPM is the dominant party there, and have historically had the law biased to them while in power, but the Congress have used the RSS when they've been in power, by providing police with an anti-CPM bias. The killings had actually stopped since early 2000 till 2014. The return of BJP to ther centre, gave a new found life to the sangh in Kerala to resume their animosity with the CPM.

I'm not jsutifying the CPM here, this violent political killing culture was nurtured by them alone, but the RSS are no saints. They are equally guilty of wasting the lives of Kerala youth. The irony is that if you look at the Martyrs on both sides they are 90% from the same hindu caste (OBC-Thiyyas) who are the majority Hindus in Kerala. !

 

[big_gamer007]

I need to make one thing absolutely clear here. It WAS, IS & REMAINS a TWO WAY STREET !

I lived for 1.5 years in rural Kannur -the epicenter of the RSS CPM clashes. In the period of my stay 2014-late 2015 , I saw 6 explosions, 3 murders, 6-8 hackings and 8 Hartals by either CPM or the RSS and occasionally the Muslim league! The thing you don't see is that , the killings (as described by Kannur citizens themselves) work like a football scoreboard - 1-0, 1-1, 1-2, 2-2.. You kill one person on one side, within 12-24 hours max, a person of same party rank and experience is killed on the other side.

Till the late 90's, the CPM and RSS shakhas used to maintain LITERAL SCOREBOARDS enlisting the body count on either side. It is as close to a political hellhole as you will get in Kerala.

The people there are generally less financially well off and poorly educated, and are ready to lap up whatever the shakhas (CPM and RSS) teach them. Both parties maintain gangs of well trained goons trained in Kalari-Payattu and loaded up with Drugs and Liquor. Ready to start hacking on command from the top brass. You often hear poor party workers getting killed in the process of manufacturing home-made petrol bombs and molotovs !

CPM is the dominant party there, and have historically had the law biased to them while in power, but the Congress have used the RSS when they've been in power, by providing police with an anti-CPM bias. The killings had actually stopped since early 2000 till 2014. The return of BJP to ther centre, gave a new found life to the sangh in Kerala to resume their animosity with the CPM.

I'm not jsutifying the CPM here, this violent political killing culture was nurtured by them alone, but the RSS are no saints. They are equally guilty of wasting the lives of Kerala youth. The irony is that if you look at the Martyrs on both sides they are 90% from the same hindu caste (OBC-Thiyyas) who are the majority Hindus in Kerala. !

Politicians are same in every party mate especially the local level politicians.. What your post mentioned we never see it in news here well mainstream news anyways.. Occasionally we hear of clashes between TMC workers and BJP workers or news from Kerala about clashes between BJP workers and CPI.. But what you mentioned in your post if that is the ground reality then it's not very hard to understand why we are still where we are.. No political parties want to fight the real issues and indulge in such battles, shame really.

 

[SandyB]

Politicians are same in every party mate especially the local level politicians.. What your post mentioned we never see it in news here well mainstream news anyways.. Occasionally we hear of clashes between TMC workers and BJP workers or news from Kerala about clashes between BJP workers and CPI.. But what you mentioned in your post if that is the ground reality then it's not very hard to understand why we are still where we are.. No political parties want to fight the real issues and indulge in such battles, shame really.

In the central and southern parts of Kerala (Kochi, Trivandrum etc) , the CPM and COngress usually alternate in power, but in malabar (northern Kerala), where the violence mainly occurs, CPM has almost had uninterrupted power with the BJP or Muslim League forming main oppositions . But NONE of the 3 parties have tried to elevate the socio-economic status of the region . They know that once people GET A TASTE OF A BETTER LIFE , they'll stop getting volunteers for them to turn into killers and martyrs !

 

[kaayal]

Ha ha All Very True. !

Myself, a victim of a semi-ditching by a Kottayam/pala achayathi saar. !. But this was while working in Kerala though. Luckily i hadn't suckered enough to commit myself at her feet. So the fallout was minimal. . The sudden change in tone and attitude was so alarming, faster than it took Jesus christ to resurrect

It's their sweet and playful accent (ennathanne, enna ondenney !) You feel like trusting everything they say .. NEVER AGAIN !!

You are not alone here. CC's ex was also a kottayam achaayathi.

I feel for you guys lol.:

 

[SandyB]

You are not alone here. CC's ex was also a kottayam achaayathi.

I feel for you guys lol.:

I got a hint the moment [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] mentioned religious book(SINGULAR) and conversion . But I was under the impression that the Nasrani's of Kottayam would have too much caste pride to marry a "varuthan". The other christian sects (Catholics, evangelists) are more open to conversion opportunities !

That also explains why a typical Bong like him would fall for her, Kottayam Cristian girls are very open minded, outgoing and interact most freely with the other gender. Might've given him a Kolkata girl vibe. They happen to have the most exotic complexions and facial features among mallus as well ! ( Malabar penpiller [MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] excuse, you only judge what you can see )

Everything is good , TILL YOU GET DUMPED that is !!

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Tbh i agree with you. This is not exclusive for outsiders but they generally does this to our malayali boys too....

Muslims girls will never get married to other religion guys or atheists.

Nair girls will always make sure that they get engaged to a guy of same caste or higher caste like the namboothiris, pattaru etc. They are severely obsessed with caste and always hold this grudge against SC/ST's for obtaining seats through reservation.

Christian girls especially the Kottayam achayitis (and also the achayans) are only concerned about money. They have the worst reputation of dumping of all the keralite girls.

OBC and SC/ST girls are pretty chilled unless they are uber rich.SC girl family always prefer their daughter to be married in the same caste because of the fear of ridiculing from in-laws.

Ofcouse exceptions are there but this is what i observed after interacting with most of them in college and hostel.

This has nothing to do with Malayali women to be honest. It is pretty much the same everywhere. Women will always prefer someone who is from the same community and who can bring in the moolah to secure their future . Nothing wrong with achayati girls wanting guys with money. It doesn't make them bad in anyway. It's how society works . Rich men want beautiful women and these women want the rich men

 

[SandyB]

This has nothing to do with Malayali women to be honest. It is pretty much the same everywhere. Women will always prefer someone who is from the same community and who can bring in the moolah to secure their future . Nothing wrong with achayati girls wanting guys with money. It doesn't make them bad in anyway. It's how society works . Rich men want beautiful women and these women want the rich men

Maybe. But if you look at the Tamil/telugu or Kannada girls, they are far more conservative, and date within their own caste too and WONT COMMIT easily TO AN OUTER STATE GUY, to a serious relationship like our girls . The ones who do are most likely to run away with the guy or if lucky, get the guy "HONOR KILLED" along Telugu/Tamil cinema style - White Tata sumos/Scorpios, Sickles and all !

 

[kaayal]

This has nothing to do with Malayali women to be honest. It is pretty much the same everywhere. Women will always prefer someone who is from the same community and who can bring in the moolah to secure their future . Nothing wrong with achayati girls wanting guys with money. It doesn't make them bad in anyway. It's how society works . Rich men want beautiful women and these women want the rich men

It was only an observation from my part about the different communities of kerala. I just mentioned to which thing these girls are more inclined to when it comes to marriage.

And every girl look for financial security in her future husband. Nothing wrong in that but the extend in which they go for it after cheating another guy is what made me cautious about the achayatis. Kottayam achaayans are also not better off. They are made for each other.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Maybe. But if you look at the Tamil/telugu or Kannada girls, they are far more conservative, and date within their own caste too and WONT COMMIT easily TO AN OUTER STATE GUY, to a serious relationship like our girls . The ones who do are most likely to run away with the guy or if lucky, get the guy "HONOR KILLED" along Telugu/Tamil cinema style - White Tata sumos/Scorpios, Sickles and all !

I'm malayali raised in Bangalore and atleast here no girl/woman would turn you down for caste . Atleast not in my experience. However, if you go to Mangalore/Udupi side, they are more conservative and stick to their own communities mainly although even this is changing. On the whole though I'd say Kannadigas women are the best if the lot. No nonsense. It's either a yes or a no.

 

[kaayal]

I got a hint the moment [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] mentioned religious book(SINGULAR) and conversion . But I was under the impression that the Nasrani's of Kottayam would have too much caste pride to marry a "varuthan". The other christian sects (Catholics, evangelists) are more open to conversion opportunities !

That also explains why a typical Bong like him would fall for her, Kottayam Cristian girls are very open minded, outgoing and interact most freely with the other gender. Might've given him a Kolkata girl vibe. They happen to have the most exotic complexions and facial features among mallus as well ! ( Malabar penpiller [MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] excuse, you only judge what you can see )

Everything is good , TILL YOU GET DUMPED that is !!

Lol am extremely comfortable in my skin and is not all insecure about it. So chill bro

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It was only an observation from my part about the different communities of kerala. I just mentioned to which thing these girls are more inclined to when it comes to marriage.

And every girl look for financial security in her future husband. Nothing wrong in that but the extend in which they go for it after cheating another guy is what made me cautious about the achayatis. Kottayam achaayans are also not better off. They are made for each other.

Yeah but the point I was trying to make was it is too much of s generalisation no? I'm half nair and from my observation, more Nair women marry out than any of the major communities - ezhavas, Christians,Muslims etc. Complaining about reservations and land reforms etc. is primarily because they are the community that lost the most after these. The syrian Christians were protected by a very powerful lobby and the rest benefited. Achayati women certainly are more money minded but do they cheat anyone.? I'm not sure of that. They are quite open about it and I respect them for that. I have no idea how malayali Muslims are in Kerala but the ones who come for education in Bangalore/Mangalore - let's just say they make kottayam folks look like

 

[SandyB]

Lol am extremely comfortable in my skin and is not all insecure about it. So chill bro

It was a reference to the song "mahile penpillare kadikka". Usually the central/south Keralites have a perception of Malabaris as some sort of exotic people. Like in the opening scenes of "thattathin marayath".

Anyway, how good is our secularism, where A Malabari Muslim and a Kochi Hindu can slander Christian women on a Pakistani forum. Secularism just as Indiraji intended :d

 

[SandyB]

Not all are socialist though are they? And I think it's changing as well with the younger generation. None of my cousins support the "party". But yeah niw that you mentioned it, it seems obvious.

Neither do I TBH. Was a soft BJP supporter and Modi fan (mostly out of dislike for congress & CPM policies ) till 2015.

My family are Hardcore (I mean HARDCORE, blood, sweat and inquilab !) Commies on my mothers side and Congress supporters on Dad's sides, all of us have been voting BJP past 5-6 years , while saying "Ofcourse" to both other parties and paying party funds to EVERYONE.

The BJP has silent support of a good number of Ezhavas/Thiyyas, who are getting more and more disenfranchised with the CPMs appeasement politics. From the time KR Gouri amma was sidelined to the recent opposition to VS Achu and Pinarayi (by the Nambiar lobby of Kannur), most of our community feel under represented , given that we are 23% of Keralas population and the CPMs most loyal support base. And antics of Clowns like "White Church" Guruji are giving us the public perception of still-backward idiots, so the CPM never takes us seriously.

But the recent developments up north and the overall upper caste Bias of the kerala BJP, and the very public expression of caste (upper) pride on Social media etc are making many of us rethink our support. Though the community is developed/influential enough to never have to face discrimination like the Dalits , the rise in dalit atrocities has brought back past insecurities among many.

 

[jusarrived]

Where have you been in Tamil Nadu bro ?

Most of TN and more frequently to Chennai , Kodiakanal and ooty .

 

[jusarrived]

Thanks for the stats.
males:

Punjab 168.6
Rajasthan 167.5
Delhi 165.8
Bihar 163.8


Kerala 168.3
Karnataka 166
Tamil Nadu 165.8
Andhra Pradesh 165

I think it is the migrant population from UP and Bihar which brings down the average height of Delhi.

I dont know what the stat would say now , but having travelled to all major cities in past 3-4 years , its only Hyderabad and Kerala where you genuinely notice that a lot of people are much taller than you . Am just a touch under 6ft . Delhites are definitely not tall .

Just compare the cricketers from these regions . Apart from Ishant Sharma can you think of a tall player they have produced ? may be Dhawan is good for a batsmen . in comparison you can barely find few players who are less than 6ft from south . its all a coincidence ?
This thing of having a intimidating physique is only in their head .

 

[CricketCartoons]

I dont know what the stat would say now , but having travelled to all major cities in past 3-4 years , its only Hyderabad and Kerala where you genuinely notice that a lot of people are much taller than you . Am just a touch under 6ft . Delhites are definitely not tall .

Just compare the cricketers from these regions . Apart from Ishant Sharma can you think of a tall player they have produced ? may be Dhawan is good for a batsmen . in comparison you can barely find few players who are less than 6ft from south . its all a coincidence ?
This thing of having a intimidating physique is only in their head .

Cricketers are not the true sample space. Please read some statistics 101.

 

[Specialisttailender]

North Indians are definitely taller on average.