"Operation Sindoor is now India's new policy against terrorism, a new line has been drawn": Narendra Modi

[Stewie]

I'm so sick to death of the topic being discussed on PP, I barely visit such threads anymore.

Go visit the hanumanji the astronaut thread.

 

[Stewie]

We need to prepare a memorial for it like US did for twin towers

India will bomb that too using a 20 dollar walmart drone

 

[LordJames]

Lets see who is lying ... shall we ? Show me where I claimed that the entire Bholari "Airbase" was damaged as implied by you in this post #455

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So civilians have access to the Hangar at Bholari ? ( Keyword is HANGAR )

As I said, not only you are dishonest and deceptive but you also lack basic English comprehension skills.

1. Hangars are on a Base
2. Civilians have access to the Base
3. IF the base was significantly damaged OR required extensive repairs THEN the civilian access to the base would have been restricted or curtailed or temporarily stopped.

Show me in highlighted words where I used civilians have use of the Hangar?

 

[Hitman]

Go visit the hanumanji the astronaut thread.

Same is the condition there created by Pakistani trolls.

 

[uppercut]

As I said, not only you are dishonest and deceptive but you also lack basic English comprehension skills.

1. Hangars are on a Base
2. Civilians have access to the Base

Does not mean Civilians have access to the Hangar .... Is that in any way un-clear to you ?

3. IF the base was significantly damaged OR required extensive repairs THEN the civilian access to the base would have been restricted or curtailed or temporarily stopped.

See point# 1 and 2. One building on the Base being destroyed does not mean the whole base is shut down ... understand ?

Show me in highlighted words where I used civilians have use of the Hangar?

Then why are you responding to my post which is ONLY referring to the state of that particular Hangar thats been hit at that Base ( and not the entire base ) ?

 

[LordJames]

Does not mean Civilians have access to the Hangar .... Is that in any way un-clear to you ?



See point# 1 and 2. One building on the Base being destroyed does not mean the whole base is shut down ... understand ?




Then why are you responding to my post which is ONLY referring to the state of that particular Hangar thats been hit at that Base ( and not the entire base ) ?

1. Civilians have access to the Base
2. Their access has not been restricted, nor curtailed

Is that unclear to you?

This is "circumstantial evidence" that damage was either not extensive nor repaired quickly enough so not need to restrict visual access.

IF not, then civilian access would have been curtailed, suspended and there will be huge "temporary coverings" covering areas of the base etc.

As I said, not only you are dishonest but also have English comprehension issues

 

[uppercut]

Sorry to interrupt you guys but Mr uppercut, where is the evidence for Nur Khan command & control being destroyed...I read above we were specifically talking about it first before digressing to bolari. Thanks and enlighten us all. Good luck

here you go:

 

[The Bald Eagle]

here you go:

Command & control system?

 

[uppercut]

1. Civilians have access to the Base
2. Their access has not been restricted, nor curtailed

Is that unclear to you?

I don't care about the ENTIRE Airbase. Talk about JUST THE HANGAR. Do you have evidence that civilians have access TO THAT Hangar at Bholari ? Simple Yes/No answer.

Rest of your post is immaterial until you clarify that ( which you most likely never will )

 

[uppercut]

Command & control system?

Obviously Pakistan will never admit that because that is classified information... according to them no major damage was done to Nur Khan lol. But looking at the videos and the satellite images it is obvious that it caused serious damage to two buildings.

According to OSINT sources those buildings were command and control centers. Sure you can go hide behind the excuse that unless a official confirmation comes from your PAF there was no damage which is not surprising at all.

 

[Stewie]

here you go:

All this video says is that we had thirty seconds to react and respond to the attack and we could have used the nuclear option to respond because we didn’t know if India had used a the nuke with their brahmos.
So trump should be lauded for brokering peace because if he had not there could be nuclear war. No mention of the damage, etc.

Also if you use this as evidence then you are claiming your chat PM is a liar and trump in fact did intervene and broker peace, which is contrary to what he claims

 

[uppercut]

Every thread regarding Operation Sindoor needs to be locked. Otherwise the incessant trolling from both sides will continue till the end of mankind.​

I don't troll unless and until the usual suspects here start trolling usually after getting bent out of shape unable to handle simple facts which in itself is pretty amusing to see ... lol

 

[uppercut]

All this video says is that we had thirty seconds to react and respond to the attack and we could have used the nuclear option to respond because we didn’t know if India had used a the nuke with their brahmos.

So you are atleast accepting that missiles landed on Nur-Khan ? Thats progress IMO.

So trump should be lauded for brokering peace because if he had not there could be nuclear war. No mention of the damage, etc.

Except since there is no trade deal ( which was the basis for India accepting the ceasefire ) between US and India what does that tell you about who asked for the ceasefire ?

Also if you use this as evidence then you are claiming your chat PM is a liar and trump in fact did intervene and broker peace, which is contrary to what he claims

Well then where is the trade deal with India then as Trump claimed ?

Checkmate.

 

[LordJames]

I don't care about the ENTIRE Airbase. Talk about JUST THE HANGAR. Do you have evidence that civilians have access TO THAT Hangar at Bholari ? Simple Yes/No answer.

Rest of your post is immaterial until you clarify that ( which you most likely never will )

Let me break it down for you.

This is the size of an FALCON DA-20 which India "supposedly" destroyed inside a Hangar.

1. Bholari Airbase Google Map Location
   1. The Pakistan Government MET Office (local location) is here on Google Map
   2. Cement Crush Plant on Google Map
   3. Bholari Mosque (front of the Gate) and here it is on Google Map
   4. Kandair Mosque (a click or say behind the runways) with clear sight and here is on Google Map

Take a look at the size of the PAF base and installations all around it on Google and you will notice that from 1.1, 1.2 & 1.3 part of the airbase is visible

From 1.4 the runways are visible. Here is the location of the actual hangar from Indian Media to show you that it is visible via barbed wire from Kandair Mosque

I have drawn all of this on a Map for you in addition to giving you Google Map Coordinates, the damage Hangar is in the circle, the front observation points are in BLUE while Kandair Mosque is in RED

1. To hide the "extensive" damage to the hangar PAF will have to restrict access to the base, which they did not
2. When a civilian enters the base and meets at "Met Sqn" they have direct line of sight to Hangar so it will be "permanently" covered up

The base was hit but there was EITHER no extensive damage OR damage was quickly repaired.

Let me school you even further! This is Desert so when driving from "Thana Bola Exchange" miles of territory including parts of runway is visible through barbed wire fence.

 

[uppercut]

Let me break it down for you

This is the size of an FALCON DA-20 which India "supposedly" destroyed inside a Hangar.

Here is your own retd Pak military person claiming that:

https://youtu.be/AkBYEbwyBlw?si=_lnI4OG9p9aMfDqN&t=28

1. Bholari Airbase Google Map Location
   1. The Pakistan Government MET Office (local location) is here on Google Map
   2. Cement Crush Plant on Google Map
   3. Bholari Mosque (front of the Gate) and here it is on Google Map
   4. Kandair Mosque (a click or say behind the runways) with clear sight and here is on Google Map

Take a look at the size of the PAF base and installations all around it on Google and you will notice that from 1.1, 1.2 & 1.3 part of the airbase is visible

From 1.4 the runways are visible. Here is the location of the actual hangar from Indian Media to show you that it is visible via barbed wire from Kandair Mosque

I have drawn all of this on a Map for you in addition to giving you Google Map Coordinates, the damage Hangar is in the circle, the front observation points are in BLUE while Kandair Mosque is in RED


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1. To hide the "extensive" damage to the hangar PAF will have to restrict access to the base, which they did not
2. When a civilian enters the base and meets at "Met Sqn" they have direct line of sight to Hangar so it will be "permanently" covered up

The base was hit but there was EITHER no extensive damage OR damage was quickly repaired.

Let me school you even further! This is Desert so when driving from "Thana Bola Exchange" miles of territory including parts of runway is visible through barbed wire fence.

How does any of that prove that the Hangar does not have a hole in its roof which can only be seen from a satellite images which I posted in post# 461 ? or if someone has access to the building ( which you are doggedly refusing to answer )

 

[LordJames]

Here is your own retd Pak military person claiming that:

https://youtu.be/AkBYEbwyBlw?si=_lnI4OG9p9aMfDqN&t=28





How does any of that prove that the Hangar does not have a hole in its roof which can only be seen from a satellite images which I posted in post# 461 ? or if someone has access to the building ( which you are doggedly refusing to answer )

Dear @uppercut,

Let me try again in simple English!

1. Nobody is denying that there was damage (hole or otherwise), nobody is denying that with or without satellite imagery. Someone was martyred so obviously there was damage.
2. But this damage was not extensive enough OR was repaired quickly
3. The circumstantial evidence for 2 is that the base was never restricted for civilians

Here is your own retd Pak military person claiming that:

https://youtu.be/AkBYEbwyBlw?si=_lnI4OG9p9aMfDqN&t=28





How does any of that prove that the Hangar does not have a hole in its roof which can only be seen from a satellite images which I posted in post# 461 ? or if someone has access to the building ( which you are doggedly refusing to answer )

The video says "strikes" and AWACS was damaged but does not say "extensive damage" or irreparable damage, so in summary:

Now keep on repeating the same thing but add

Believe me Saar! I am telling the Truth Saar...AWACS is totaled Saar...

 

[Stewie]

So you are atleast accepting that missiles landed on Nur-Khan ? Thats progress IMO.



Except since there is no trade deal ( which was the basis for India accepting the ceasefire ) between US and India what does that tell you about who asked for the ceasefire ?



Well then where is the trade deal with India then as Trump claimed ?

Checkmate.

What trade deal? There was no mention of a trade deal, are you inventing more stuff now?

There was no trade deal, trump brokered peace because he wants the Nobel, modi took peace not for trade deal because India was getting its butt handed to it.

Check mate, clean bowled all three stumps knocked out, home run, touch down, knock out, how you like them apples?

 

[uppercut]

Dear @uppercut,

Let me try again in simple English!

1. Nobody is denying that there was damage (hole or otherwise), nobody is denying that with or without satellite imagery. Someone was martyred so obviously there was damage.

1. But this damage was not extensive enough OR was repaired quickly
2. The circumstantial evidence for 2 is that the base was never restricted for civilians

There is no such thing as "Circumstantial evidence" that is in play here to begin with because anyone with any iota of common sense will tell you that Military hangars are sensitive areas that are beyond civilian limits.

The video says "strikes" and AWACS was damaged but does not say "extensive damage" or irreparable damage, so in summary:

Now keep on repeating the same thing but add

Believe me Saar! I am telling the Truth Saar...AWACS is totaled Saar...

This is where knowledge about how Hangars are built is essential. These are hardened military shelters not ordinary buildings. Therefore if a missile made that hole in such a hardened shelter it will cause a lot of damage. Dont believe me go look at the size of the crater on the Rahim Yar khan runway its still not operational. The same missile landed on that Bholari Hangar.

 

[uppercut]

What trade deal? There was no mention of a trade deal, are you inventing more stuff now?

There was no trade deal, trump brokered peace because he wants the Nobel, modi took peace not for trade deal because India was getting its butt handed to it.

Check mate, clean bowled all three stumps knocked out, home run, touch down, knock out, how you like them apples?

here you go its there in the 1st 20 seconds of this clip below in Trump's own words on camera ... now whats going to be your next excuse ... perhaps this is AI generated too ?

 

[LordJames]

There is no such thing as "Circumstantial evidence" that is in play here to begin with because anyone with any iota of common sense will tell you that Military hangars are sensitive areas that are beyond civilian limits.




This is where knowledge about how Hangars are built is essential. These are hardened military shelters not ordinary buildings. Therefore if a missile made that hole in such a hardened shelter it will cause a lot of damage. Dont believe me go look at the size of the crater on the Rahim Yar khan runway its still not operational. The same missile landed on that Bholari Hangar.

Lets stick to Bholari....

But you haven't provided any real evidence of extensive damage to the aircraft at all, you have provided evidence of damage to the Hangar and then subsequently a YouTube link to the "damage"

Whenever a hardened structure of any kind is damaged, debris will cause "some damage" to whatever is being stored there, its common sense!

A projectile damaged the Hangar and as a consequence whatever it is storing will be damaged because of debris...​

As I said you are at the stage of begging...

Saar! Please believe me Saar...

 

[uppercut]

Lets stick to Bholari....

But you haven't provided any real evidence of extensive damage to the aircraft at all, you have provided evidence of damage to the Hangar and then subsequently a YouTube link to the "damage"

Whenever a hardened structure of any kind is damaged, debris will cause "some damage" to whatever is being stored there, its common sense!

A projectile damaged the Hangar and as a consequence whatever it is storing will be damaged because of debris...​

What do you mean ? Your own people have confirmed that. Besides if you think anything can survive a supersonic Cruise missile that makes a direct hit on a hangar traveling at roughly Mach 3 then you have no idea about the grade of explosives that a Brahmos cruise missile carries. Thats why I said go look at the crater on the runway at Rahim yar khan ... it is massive. Forget the damage to the hardware inside the hangar ... I doubt anyone working inside that hangar would have survived. Obviously your military will never admit to it.​

As I said you are at the stage of begging...

Saar! Please believe me Saar...

as I said considering that I have gotten you to start hurling abuses and insults it is obvious that it is you that is bent out of shape and is frothing at the mouth as you cannot handle basic facts.

 

[Stewie]

here you go its there in the 1st 20 seconds of this clip below in Trump's own words on camera ... now whats going to be your next excuse ... perhaps this is AI generated too ?

Spell it out for me. Are you saying modi decided to ceasefire because trump was threatening him with tariffs? Or bad trade deals? Is this how weak a chin chaiwalla has?

So you are admitting he is a phattoo who gets arm twisted easily.

By the way this is trump: he doesn’t know what he is talking about. If you are going to base your arguments on trump quotes, just google the treasure trove of nonsensical garbage that man utters.

 

[uppercut]

Spell it out for me.

why ? ... you cant understand what he is saying the first 20 seconds of that video ?

Are you saying modi decided to ceasefire because trump was threatening him with tariffs? Or bad trade deals? Is this how weak a chin chaiwalla has?

None of the above. The only role that Trump played was arm twisting your Gernail's arms to pickup the phone and call the Indian DGMO hotline and ask to stop the War. Why ? Because his own jets and personnel were getting on the wrong end of Indian missiles which they grossly under-estimated OR did not factor in their war gaming that India would escalate to the extent of targeting a dozen high value Pak military bases and that too without any resistance.

fun fact: the indian DGMO did not pickup the 1st call because they had pending PAF sites to go thru.

and your gernail has already made 2 trips to Amreeca whereas Modi has flatly refused to talk to Trump.

So you are admitting he is a phattoo who gets arm twisted easily.

By the way this is trump: he doesn’t know what he is talking about. If you are going to base your arguments on trump quotes, just google the treasure trove of nonsensical garbage that man utters.

Totally agree on the highlighted part. But here is the problem : YOU were the one that mentioned Trump in this discussion in post# 491 ... so the joke is on you.

 

[sweep_shot]

Why are Indians still jumping around regarding Operation Tandoor?

You lost the war. Deal with it. Move on. Get a life.

Do not start a war next time. You are not made for war. Stick to IPL.

 

[HalBass9]

Y’all really out here debating with people who cheer the slaughter of humans over a cow. That should’ve been enough of a red flag to protect your sanity. But if you’ve crossed that line, let’s recap

PAF turned one of the biggest modern air battles into a masterclass. Locked 20+ IAF jets, dropped 6–7 advanced ones, didn’t lose a single bird. India had to ground its whole fleet just to save face.

And yet here you are, still wasting time “debunking” Hindutva talking points, as if their arguments aren’t just stage props for a domestic audience. You’re shadow boxing with clowns.

India “won.”

 

[sweep_shot]

Y’all really out here debating with people who cheer the slaughter of humans over a cow. That should’ve been enough of a red flag to protect your sanity. But if you’ve crossed that line, let’s recap

PAF turned one of the biggest modern air battles into a masterclass. Locked 20+ IAF jets, dropped 6–7 advanced ones, didn’t lose a single bird. India had to ground its whole fleet just to save face.

And yet here you are, still wasting time “debunking” Hindutva talking points, as if their arguments aren’t just stage props for a domestic audience. You’re shadow boxing with clowns.

India “won.”

The more they defend their military's performance in Operation Tandoor, the more embarrassing it gets.

They are making complete fools out of themselves.

 

[uppercut]

Y’all really out here debating with people who cheer the slaughter of humans Animals over a cow. That should’ve been enough of a red flag to protect your sanity. But if you’ve crossed that line, let’s recap

Never forget to tell the full story .... and let us know why you get stuck trying to defend the animals.

PAF turned one of the biggest modern air battles into a masterclass. Locked 20+ IAF jets, dropped 6–7 advanced ones, didn’t lose a single bird. India had to ground its whole fleet just to save face.

Yeah I suppose Nur Khan, Jacobabad, Bholari, Sukkur, RYK, etc etc etc were all targetted by the evil Martians now that you have ruled out any part played by IAF ? And then you whinge about "cordial discussions" ?

 

[BouncerGuy]

GUYS, PLEASE WATCH YOUR POSTS NOW

NO PERSONAL REMARKS

 

[Stewie]

all the supposed evidence from the Indians regarding complete obliteration has been debunked so hopefully common sense will prevail from now on and no more AI generated or Indian media fakery will be shared here.

Also, I'm glad Indians here have admitted that Trump helped Indians achieve a ceasefire. things could have been much worse.

Cheers to the sensible ones and the rest can go watch planet of the apes.

 

[IronShield]

all the supposed evidence from the Indians regarding complete obliteration has been debunked so hopefully common sense will prevail from now on and no more AI generated or Indian media fakery will be shared here.

Also, I'm glad Indians here have admitted that Trump helped Indians achieve a ceasefire. things could have been much worse.

Cheers to the sensible ones and the rest can go watch planet of the apes.

Another day... @uppercut will start the day by spouting same thing that he started with yesterday in an infinite loop.

 

[Lonewarrior]

so POTUS said , 7 planes were shot down. some plane worth $150 millions dollars.
thats the Rafales , now wonder what indians will say about this ......

 

[Bhaijaan]

In all honesty, Operation Sindoor will be remembered not merely as a decisive Indian military victory but as a historical pivot, a defining moment that elevated India into the league of the world’s foremost military powers.

It was a showcase of Indian dominance in leadership, professionalism, tactics, and technology, executed with a clarity that left no doubt about who commands the skies and the battlefield theatre of Asia.

The Indian Armed Forces remain the most decorated and respected institution of our Republic, a true embodiment of discipline, sacrifice, and national pride. They proved themselves to be worthy representives of one of the greatest and most respected nations on the planet, a nation that does not bow even before mega powers like the United States, let alone failed smaller nations like Pakistan who have to go from door to door for hand outs just to keep operations running.


During the Operation Sindoor, the Indian military obliterated Pakistani terror camps and army bases with surgical precision. Billions of dollars’ worth of Pakistan’s military infrastructure went up in smoke. It only took a few Brahmos hits for Pakistanis to start giving laughable nuclear threats.

India, true to its civilizational ethos, paused the hammering the moment the request for ceasefire came from the Pakistan side along with a mercy recommendation by Donald Trump.
India proved it can devastate, but it also knows when to show mercy.

And when it came to addressing the world media, the contrast could not have been sharper. India’s military leadership spoke with authority, precision, and mastery. Every word carried weight, every briefing reinforced India’s control. On the other side, Pakistan embarrassed itself before the global press, fumbling through awkward PowerPoint slides, presenting outdated imagery with pirated software, looking more like a comedy skit than a professional military. As commentators joked, it felt less like a war briefing and more like listening to Inzamam-ul-Haq or Umar Akmal trying to explain quantum physics.

Operation Sindoor also underlined the yawning gap in technology. India demonstrated devastating long-range strike capabilities, superior missiles, and an impenetrable multi-layered air defense shield.

Pakistan, in contrast, exposed itself as a junkyard operator, deploying second-grade weapon platforms from China, Turkey, and others, systems that collapsed in a matter of days when tested against the Indian war machine. And yet, in true Pakistani fashion, even after losing aircraft, AWACS, bases, and credibility, they still tried to celebrate in the streets, dancing bhangra as if humiliation was victory.

The reality was stark: in barely 3–4 days of combat, Pakistan was dragged to the mat, thrashed comprehensively, and forced into begging for peace.

 

[LordJames]

Let me break it down for you.

This is the size of an FALCON DA-20 which India "supposedly" destroyed inside a Hangar.

1. Bholari Airbase Google Map Location
   1. The Pakistan Government MET Office (local location) is here on Google Map
   2. Cement Crush Plant on Google Map
   3. Bholari Mosque (front of the Gate) and here it is on Google Map
   4. Kandair Mosque (a click or say behind the runways) with clear sight and here is on Google Map

Take a look at the size of the PAF base and installations all around it on Google and you will notice that from 1.1, 1.2 & 1.3 part of the airbase is visible

From 1.4 the runways are visible. Here is the location of the actual hangar from Indian Media to show you that it is visible via barbed wire from Kandair Mosque

I have drawn all of this on a Map for you in addition to giving you Google Map Coordinates, the damage Hangar is in the circle, the front observation points are in BLUE while Kandair Mosque is in RED


View attachment 157245

1. To hide the "extensive" damage to the hangar PAF will have to restrict access to the base, which they did not
2. When a civilian enters the base and meets at "Met Sqn" they have direct line of sight to Hangar so it will be "permanently" covered up

The base was hit but there was EITHER no extensive damage OR damage was quickly repaired.

Let me school you even further! This is Desert so when driving from "Thana Bola Exchange" miles of territory including parts of runway is visible through barbed wire fence.

Dear @uppercut

This morning I thought about your argument and I tried very hard to see it from your perspective and I could not and here is why.

Agreements:

1. Bholari was hit by a Brahmos Missile
2. Hangar was damaged
3. AWACS was damaged:
   1. Could be FALCON DA-20
   2. Could be Saab

For the sake of our argument, 3.1 or 3.2 do not matter. The reason I am leaning towards 3.1 is because of the size.

Disagreement:

1. The extend of the damage

Past Footage of Brahmos:
Notice the crater and the size, a human is standing in it and besides it.

Brahmos is clearly not a Bunker Buster! Its damage as you have rightly said relies on its speed.

Reinforced Hangars:
This is the damage from 1991 to give me an idea of how it used to.

I then thought about Osan Airbase (South Korea) where both US and South Korea station their F-16s and it is in direct line of North Korean artillery (roughly 48 miles). In the event of a war with North Korea, there will be a barrage of artillery and rockets raining down on this airbase with way bigger payloads then Brahmos and yet both US and South Koreans have most of their fighters at ground level.

PAF already knows about the damage of Brahmos so it is unbelievable and not plausible that they have not looked at their hardened bunkers knowing fully well that the only option to India to Bholari is Brahmos!

So unless you can give categorical proof of AWACS being destroyed to the extent of it becoming un-airworthy, all you have is speculation.

The debris will fall onto the aircraft and damage it but Brahmos is not Bunker buster!

​

 

[uppercut]

Dear @uppercut

This morning I thought about your argument and I tried very hard to see it from your perspective and I could not and here is why.

Agreements:

1. Bholari was hit by a Brahmos Missile
2. Hangar was damaged
3. AWACS was damaged:
   1. Could be FALCON DA-20
   2. Could be Saab

For the sake of our argument, 3.1 or 3.2 do not matter. The reason I am leaning towards 3.1 is because of the size.

Disagreement:

1. The extend of the damage

Past Footage of Brahmos:
Notice the crater and the size, a human is standing in it and besides it.

Brahmos is clearly not a Bunker Buster! Its damage as you have rightly said relies on its speed.

Reinforced Hangars:
This is the damage from 1991 to give me an idea of how it used to.

I then thought about Osan Airbase (South Korea) where both US and South Korea station their F-16s and it is in direct line of North Korean artillery (roughly 48 miles). In the event of a war with North Korea, there will be a barrage of artillery and rockets raining down on this airbase with way bigger payloads then Brahmos and yet both US and South Koreans have most of their fighters at ground level.

PAF already knows about the damage of Brahmos so it is unbelievable and not plausible that they have not looked at their hardened bunkers knowing fully well that the only option to India to Bholari is Brahmos!

So unless you can give categorical proof of AWACS being destroyed to the extent of it becoming un-airworthy, all you have is speculation.

The debris will fall onto the aircraft and damage it but Brahmos is not Bunker buster!

​

The pic in the 1st image is not the one that hit RYK runway . Here is the video that I am referring to : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JkD9Texrlrs

While the Brahmos is not a classical bunker buster. It does have a semi-armor piercing high explosive capability ( SAP-HE ) which essentially means that it can penetrate and then detonate a massive 300KG explosive travelling at nearly Mach-3 for max impact.

About AWCS inside the Bholari Hangar: This information comes from a retired PAF Air Marshall. Here is that video ... ( and again forget about the hardware inside ... because pretty sure that nobody inside that Hangar at that time survived .. if he did he would have severe hearing loss)
​

https://youtu.be/AkBYEbwyBlw?si=_lnI4OG9p9aMfDqN&t=28

About whether PAF was not aware of Brahmos capabilities: Yes because this particular Hangar was built roughly 10 yrs or so ago and back then the Brahmos was not considered as a real threat. This is the 1st time we have seen it in action. moreover what other option does PAF have due to geographical limitations and the need to have forward bases.

​

 

[LordJames]

The pic in the 1st image is not the one that hit RYK runway . Here is the video that I am referring to : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JkD9Texrlrs

While the Brahmos is not a classical bunker buster. It does have a semi-armor piercing high explosive capability ( SAP-HE ) which essentially means that it can penetrate and then detonate a massive 300KG explosive travelling at nearly Mach-3 for max impact.

About AWCS inside the Bholari Hangar: This information comes from a retired PAF Air Marshall. Here is that video ... ( and again forget about the hardware inside ... because pretty sure that nobody inside that Hangar at that time survived .. if he did he would have severe hearing loss)
​

https://youtu.be/AkBYEbwyBlw?si=_lnI4OG9p9aMfDqN&t=28

About whether PAF was not aware of Brahmos capabilities: Yes because this particular Hangar was built roughly 10 yrs or so ago and back then the Brahmos was not considered as a real threat. This is the 1st time we have seen it in action. moreover what other option does PAF have due to geographical limitations and the need to have forward bases.

​

I am discussing Bholari reinforced Concrete Hangar here and you keep on going on a tangent. A runway and a reinforced Hangar designed to withstand a projectile impact are two separate issues!

You have posted the same video about Redt PAF Air Marshal Masood Akhtar multiple times and he clears says in plain language "Our AWACS was damaged" and nowhere does he say "Our AWACS was destroyed"...Posting it multiple times doesn't prove your point.

Barhmost carries a 200-300KG (range) explosive but you keep taking the higher number for obvious bias, I understand

There is contention that Barhmos hit Bholari

1. Brahmos Missile damage in Pakistan occurred on March 09, 2022
2. Brahmos Missile hit Bholari on May 09-10, 2025

Pakistani military had full 3 years to look at the fragments, shrapnel and impact damage and it is not difficult to reinforce hangars etc, the original build date means nothing!

The important detail which you are missing is that China is already ahead of US in building hardened Aircraft Hangars and Pakistan would no doubt have not only their own experience with Barhmos but also input from Chinese

I understand that your Bias won't let you see this impartially but unless your videos and evidence does not stack up to a damaged enough AWACS which is no longer airworthy.

 

[uppercut]

I am discussing Bholari reinforced Concrete Hangar here and you keep on going on a tangent. A runway and a reinforced Hangar designed to withstand a projectile impact are two separate issues!

PAF hangars use NATO Standards which can at best resist a conventional weapon .... not a Supersonic precision guided cruise missile traveling at nearly Mach 3 speeds with armor piercing warhead and delayed detonation mechanism. We dont have to debate on whether it could withstand a direct hit. The evidence is there in the form of high-resolution images which tells us that the Hangar has a big hole visible from space and it will take years to rebuild it to its original design specs ( not just patch work )​

You have posted the same video about Redt PAF Air Marshal Masood Akhtar multiple times and he clears says in plain language "Our AWACS was damaged" and nowhere does he say "Our AWACS was destroyed"...Posting it multiple times doesn't prove your point.

using that video I am addressing your question ... "was the hangar capable of sheltering a large AWACS type aircraft". And I clearly said forget about the hardware losses which we can only guesstimate based on the impact and visible damage which is pretty huge. It would be a huge miracle if anyone working inside that hangar survived that hit.​

Barhmost carries a 200-300KG (range) explosive but you keep taking the higher number for obvious bias, I understand

The air launched version of Brahmos can carry a 300KG Warhead. This is what was most likely used in Bholari. Even if we assume the 200KG Warhead was used ... that will still destroy that hangar because you are overlooking the speed and the overall weight of that missile which is approx 2.5 to 2.65 tonnes. No hangar in the world is designed to withstand that.​

There is contention that Barhmos hit Bholari

1. Brahmos Missile damage in Pakistan occurred on March 09, 2022
2. Brahmos Missile hit Bholari on May 09-10, 2025

Pakistani military had full 3 years to look at the fragments, shrapnel and impact damage and it is not difficult to reinforce hangars etc, the original build date means nothing!

The important detail which you are missing is that China is already ahead of US in building hardened Aircraft Hangars and Pakistan would no doubt have not only their own experience with Barhmos but also input from Chinese

Well we actually have an answer to this question of what PAF could or could-not do. And it is in the form of a hi-resolution satellite image which clearly shows a big dark hole in that hangar. So not sure what you are trying to say here. Add to that the specs of the missile there is very little chance that anything survived inside that hangar.​

I understand that your Bias won't let you see this impartially but unless your videos and evidence does not stack up to a damaged enough AWACS which is no longer airworthy.

A hit like that form a supersonic missile is highly unlikely to have spared anything inside ( again look at the missile specs ). So since we have confirmation that the aircraft was in the hangar it is highly probable that it did not survive. If it did it would have sustained significant damage.

Do you have evidence that it is back in operation as its been 4.5 months since the incident ?