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Neither does the UK or most nations,. Great point pal.
Check the post you replied to.. as to what he was saying genius.. you could had just told him what you said now..
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Check the post you replied to.. as to what he was saying genius.. you could had just told him what you said now..
Why are a million Bangladeshis living in Assam illegally? It's economic migration. A bunch of Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans and Bangladeshis tried to get into Germany posing as Syrians a couple of years ago. I believe it's not wrong to seek asylum but again one has to be prepared for rejection. If there is no genuine cause, they will be sent away as it happened here. Last I heard 500 people in AJK are trying to enter India illegally. I don't think India will be as merciful as the Mexicans and the Americans.
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I am against all illegal migrations. I am against Bangladeshi illegals, Indian illegals, Central American illegals etc.
If you want to come in, come legally. Don't make things hard for the host nation.
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What is with Indians' obsession with moving to US? Literally most major immigrant communities, with the exception of hispanics, are fairly widely spread out in US, Canada, Europe, Australia. But Indians seem to consider other countries as being far inferior to the US.
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UK says it has between 75000 to 100,000 illegal Indian immigrants
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One of the guys has been deported 4 times and spent Rs 65 Lakh total
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Deadline getting closer and closer. A month and 10 days to go. Mexico will forever remember the day it took panga with a superpower.
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Nah. They're moving to Europe in numbers. It's just there are many of them that only the ones in USA get mentioned... Check Eurostat's '18 report (took me a while to find ��
I don't blame them. Who would want to live under a fascist government that blinds kids and mass rapes with its pathetic military in its "own" country.
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Punjab again.. spent 40 lakhs.. mostly the one state or the nearby one..
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Masters CS in USA doesn’t cost 40 lakhs.. but he wanted to illegally enter usa.. paying 40 lakhs.
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Nah. They're moving to Europe in numbers. It's just there are many of them that only the ones in USA get mentioned... Check Eurostat's '18 report (took me a while to find ��)
I don't blame them. Who would want to live under a fascist government that blinds kids and mass rapes with its pathetic military in its "own" country.
Yeah thats not the reason for legal ones.. its ambition and opportunities, Mostly monetary.
I can never understand why illegally Punjabis do it though, paying so much money..
The impression I get from Indians is that they and most people in their country have long considered US in a different stratosphere compared to rest of the countries that take a lot of immigrants. This may now be changing given the time it takes for those born in India to convert an H1-B to green card, and a lot of Indians (even H1-B holders) are moving to Canada as a result. The express entry stats for Canada for 2018 bear that as well. But this is only recent, and it's not out of choice I think. Punjabi Indians might be an exception. There are a ton of them in GTA, and have been for a long time.
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We get loads of Indian immigrants here, you are talking about only the illegal ones. But as they tend to be very willing to drop their Indian identity the English tend to tolerate them as long as they stay in the background.
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Indian immigration has always caused problems, even when LEGAL! Yes, this is true.
After WW2, the UK opened its borders to common wealth citizens, and lo and behold, Indians flocked in their droves! The UK couldn't control the level of immigration, so Parliament introduced a new law - Immigration Act 1971. This law meant Commonwealth citizens lost their automatic right to the UK, and faced the same restrictions as those from elsewhere. This law continues till this day.
You see, it's not just being an Indian, it's also about the numbers. You have Modi begging world leaders to lift immigration limits for Indians, but no leader is stupid enough to open the flood gates.
After WW2, the UK opened its borders to common wealth citizens, and lo and behold, Indians flocked in their droves! The UK couldn't control the level of immigration, so Parliament introduced a new law - Immigration Act 1971. This law meant Commonwealth citizens lost their automatic right to the UK, and faced the same restrictions as those from elsewhere. This law continues till this day.
You see, it's not just being an Indian, it's also about the numbers. You have Modi begging world leaders to lift immigration limits for Indians, but no leader is stupid enough to open the flood gates.
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You are talking abt legal and he is talking about illegal.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...ritsar-on-may-19/amp_articleshow/75798636.cms
First batch of 161 illegal immigrants in US to reach Amritsar on May 19
AMRITSAR: The first batch of 161 illegal Indian immigrants, out of 1,793 held by the US government, would arrive in Amritsar on May 19. Talking to TOI on Sunday, North American Punjabi Association (Napa) executive director Satnam Singh Chahal said out of these 161 deportees, 132 were from Punjab and Haryana.
After India began ‘Vande Bharat Mission’ on April 7, in the wake of coronavirus pandemic, to bring back its citizens stranded abroad, countries have started deporting illegal immigrants, said highly placed sources. A couple of flights from Gulf countries have already flown in illegal Indian immigrants, they said. US president Donald Trump had even warned of visa restrictions if India did not take back illegal Indian immigrants, sources claimed.
According to the list accessed by TOI, 161 Indian nationals being deported from USA include 76 from Haryana and 56 from Punjab, while others are from Gujarat, Uttar Pradesh, Kerala, Telangana, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Goa. From Amritsar’s Sri Guru Ram Das International Airport, all they will be sent to their native districts for quarantine.
Chahal said the 1,793 illegal Indian immigrants were lodged in 95 different US jails. Although there is no data in public domain about these migrants and the states they belong to, it is said that most are from northern India. “Most of the detainees at the federal facilities are asking for asylum, claiming they experienced violence or persecution in their home country,” said Chahal.
First batch of 161 illegal immigrants in US to reach Amritsar on May 19
AMRITSAR: The first batch of 161 illegal Indian immigrants, out of 1,793 held by the US government, would arrive in Amritsar on May 19. Talking to TOI on Sunday, North American Punjabi Association (Napa) executive director Satnam Singh Chahal said out of these 161 deportees, 132 were from Punjab and Haryana.
After India began ‘Vande Bharat Mission’ on April 7, in the wake of coronavirus pandemic, to bring back its citizens stranded abroad, countries have started deporting illegal immigrants, said highly placed sources. A couple of flights from Gulf countries have already flown in illegal Indian immigrants, they said. US president Donald Trump had even warned of visa restrictions if India did not take back illegal Indian immigrants, sources claimed.
According to the list accessed by TOI, 161 Indian nationals being deported from USA include 76 from Haryana and 56 from Punjab, while others are from Gujarat, Uttar Pradesh, Kerala, Telangana, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Goa. From Amritsar’s Sri Guru Ram Das International Airport, all they will be sent to their native districts for quarantine.
Chahal said the 1,793 illegal Indian immigrants were lodged in 95 different US jails. Although there is no data in public domain about these migrants and the states they belong to, it is said that most are from northern India. “Most of the detainees at the federal facilities are asking for asylum, claiming they experienced violence or persecution in their home country,” said Chahal.
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132 from Punjabi and Haryana .. the point I have been trying to make in this whole thread.
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Array yeh kiya? Illegal aur Indian in the same sentence. Wonder why were the escaping from the shining and rising Supa Powa.
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Aren’t they Indians lol?
I don’t get point When it’s some social issue Indians say only bihar, UP. When it’s caste it’s Tamil Nadu or Sth and here it’s Punjab haryana.
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Caste is everywhere in mainland India, they are Indians but my point is on the issue ,these people pay 20-40 Lakhs INR to go abroad illegally, an education degree is cheaper in Canada/USA... so these can't even be classified as economic migrants, check many of their interviews most that even end up reaching say - How life has become tough for them and when they would wake up at afternoon in India and then eat easily but here they have to work per hours basis, wake up early and make hardly anything...
Immigrants fomr UP/Bihar tht migrate to other states work really hard in variety of jobs, these guys are not those.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.econ...mmigration-trail/amp_articleshow/77818363.cms
[MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] - article also answers ‘Why mostly Punjabi’s?” Interesting
[MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] - article also answers ‘Why mostly Punjabi’s?” Interesting
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53 Lakhs, Is 72k USD.. not sure how farmers in India think they can make it big here, 53 lakhs is more than enough to settle in India or start a business.
18 Lakhs for illegal for 22 yr old, who could had done masters.... its easy to say one didn't get into Army or Police, but he needs show proof he didn't, coz if someone was decent enough to write an exam surely they were fit to get masters admission through legal means.. the lies can easily be exposed but its being greedy and also trying to live other life..
I have seen other interviews of these Punjabi youth that wake up at noon, get food prepared ready and just go around, saying no jobs is just a way of saying they didn't try or at best it wasn't good enough for them and just want the good life in states/Canada not realizing how tough it is here as well..(some do, as you can see in interviews).
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Mexico's Sheinbaum poised to become first woman president
Claudia Sheinbaum is set to win a landslide victory to become Mexico's first female president, inheriting the project of her mentor and outgoing leader Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador whose popularity among the poor helped drive her triumph.
At least five exit polls showed Sheinbaum, a climate scientist and former mayor of Mexico City, winning the presidency, with pollster Parametria forecasting a landslide 56% of the vote for the ruling MORENA party candidate. Parametria forecast opposition candidate Xochitl Galvez taking 30% of the vote.
Provisional results are trickling in and show Sheinbaum leading with 59% of the vote, versus 29% for Galvez, with 5% of total votes counted. Galvez has not conceded and told her supporters to be patient for the official results.
Imminent victory for Sheinbaum is a major step for Mexico, a country known for its macho culture and home to the world's second biggest Roman Catholic population, which for years pushed more traditional values and roles for women.
Sheinbaum would be the first woman to win a general election in the United States, Mexico or Canada.
"I never imagined that one day I would vote for a woman," said 87-year-old Edelmira Montiel, a Sheinbaum supporter in Mexico's smallest state Tlaxcala.
"Before we couldn't even vote, and when you could, it was to vote for the person your husband told you to vote for. Thank God that has changed and I get to live it," Montiel added.
Sheinbaum has a complicated path ahead. She must balance promises to increase popular welfare policies while inheriting a hefty budget deficit and low economic growth.
She has vowed to improve security but has given few details and the election, the most violent in Mexico's modern history with 38 candidates murdered, has reinforced massive security problems. Many analysts say organized crime groups expanded and deepened their influence during Lopez Obrador's term.
Sunday's vote was also marred by the killing of two people at polling stations in Puebla state. More people have been killed - over 185,000 - during the mandate of Lopez Obrador than during any other administration in Mexico's modern history, although the homicide rate has been inching down.
"Unless she commits to making a game-changing level of investment in improving policing and reducing impunity, Sheinbaum will likely struggle to achieve a significant improvement in overall levels of security," said Nathaniel Parish Flannery, an independent Latin America political risk analyst.
The ruling MORENA party has also declared its candidate the winner of the Mexico City mayorship race, one of the country's most important posts, though the opposition has disputed that and claims its own nominee won the contest.
It also appears MORENA will have a simple majority in Congress, according to party head Mario Delgado, falling short of a two-thirds majority that would allow the party to push constitutional reforms without opposition support.
Among the new president's challenges will be tense negotiations with the United States over the huge flows of U.S.-bound migrants crossing Mexico and security cooperation over drug trafficking at a time when the U.S. fentanyl epidemic rages.
Mexican officials expect these negotiations to be more difficult if the U.S. presidency is won by Donald Trump in November.
Trump has vowed to impose 100% tariffs on Chinese cars made in Mexico and said he would mobilize special forces to fight the cartels.
At home, the next president will be tasked with addressing electricity and water shortages and luring manufacturers to relocate as part of the nearshoring trend, in which companies move supply chains closer to their main markets.
The election winner also will have to wrestle with what to do with Pemex, the state oil giant that has seen production decline for two decades and is drowning in debt.
"It cannot just be that there is an endless pit where you put public money in and the company is never profitable," said Alberto Ramos, chief Latin America economist at Goldman Sachs. "They have to rethink the business model of Pemex."
Sheinbaum has promised to expand welfare programs, though Mexico has a large deficit this year and sluggish GDP growth of just 1.5% expected by the central bank next year.
Lopez Obrador has loomed over the campaign, seeking to turn the vote into a referendum on his political agenda. Sheinbaum has rejected opposition claims that she would be a "puppet" of Lopez Obrador, though she has pledged to continue many of his policies including those that have helped Mexico's poorest.
Political analyst Viri Rios said she thought sexism was behind criticizm that Sheinbaum was going to be a puppet.
"It's unbelievable that people cannot believe she's going to be making her own decisions, and I think that's got a lot to do with the fact that she's female," she said.
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