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Why should he? There's literally no batsman left.
If you're wondering there is a rule to retire after scoring 100. No there isn't
Rizwan should have batted, they shouldn't have declared
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Why should he? There's literally no batsman left.
If you're wondering there is a rule to retire after scoring 100. No there isn't
Asad Shafiq fails again on the best pitch he'll ever bat in South Africa. Needs to be dropped.
Sarfraz will be toast after this tour, he and Arthur need to respond to the nepotistic selector and drop Imam. Play Shan with Fakhar Zaman, opening slot continuing to remain a worry. Even Viv Richards brought back in the time machine won't able to sustain the pressure Imam imposes on his partners.
Azhar and Fakhar should open. I haven't many hopes from Amir.
1 Azhar
2 Fakhar
3 Haris
4 Babar
5 Shafiq
6 Sarfaraz
7 Shadab
8 Faheem
9 Hassan
10 Shaheen
11 Abbas
Rizwan should have batted, they shouldn't have declared
wow, I forgot Rizwan was in the squad
A clear indication of opposition against Rizwan in the team atm.
Really doubt he'd be in the XI
Azhar is going to be our main batsman on this tour. Hope he averages 50+ and Babar and Haris average around 45. Shafiq will be good for his pretty 30s and 40s and if the openers can get us off to a good start, the series is ours, InshAllah.
Rizwan is not going to play unless Sarfaraz is injured. There is nothing against him, the team is simply being practical given that this is the only prep they are going to get.
Tbf I reckon if Rizwan is in good batting form they could find a way to fit both him and Sarfaraz in the XI. But I guess we can kiss goodbye to that happening seeing he didn't get a chance to bat here.
But I hope Amla scores a 100 each test so his average is not disturbed.![]()
Tbf I reckon if Rizwan is in good batting form they could find a way to fit both him and Sarfaraz in the XI. But I guess we can kiss goodbye to that happening seeing he didn't get a chance to bat here.
I see haris failed again. Everyone talks about Azhar but nobody asks why Haris is still not kicking on?
The injuries to Philander and Ngidi gift another huge thing to Pakistan.
I wrote last March when I was in South Africa that the mandatory racial quotas are averaged over a calendar year, and that against Australia and India the South Africans has picked excessive numbers of white players, which would have to be cancelled out by picking more non-white players against Pakistan.
The loss of Philander and Ngidi leave a quota problem and the recall of Steyn only cancels out the retirement of Morne Morkel.
The pace attack was meant to be two Africans, a Coloured and a white man with an Indian spinner. But now they have 2 white quicks with one Indian spinner and one black quick.
Now they have to drop a white batsman to accommodate Hamza.
And they can’t drop Amla in spite of his obvious decline.
Amir will play, he has bowled better than both Hasan and Shaheen in this warm-up game. Hasan is leaking too many runs also whereas Shaheen hasn't taken a wicket. Add to that Amir's batting will be crucial, he can stay on the wicket and score vital runs at the end, our tail is being termed weak since he left and he will restore balance.
The injuries to Philander and Ngidi gift another huge thing to Pakistan.
I wrote last March when I was in South Africa that the mandatory racial quotas are averaged over a calendar year, and that against Australia and India the South Africans has picked excessive numbers of white players, which would have to be cancelled out by picking more non-white players against Pakistan.
The loss of Philander and Ngidi leave a quota problem and the recall of Steyn only cancels out the retirement of Morne Morkel.
The pace attack was meant to be two Africans, a Coloured and a white man with an Indian spinner. But now they have 2 white quicks with one Indian spinner and one black quick.
Now they have to drop a white batsman to accommodate Hamza.
And they can’t drop Amla in spite of his obvious decline.
Amir's economy was higher in the 1st innings, champ.
Normally I don't post anything on racial quota as it shouldn't exists, but do you realize that you are sounding a bitter bigot here?
This guy Hamza is 23 and he averages 49 in SAF FC cricket for 3.5K+ runs. He had an outstanding 2017-18 FC season scoring 828@69 with three centuries. His 3 innings for SAF A in IND tours were 0, 63 & 93, which takes his FC runs in last 6 months close to 1,000 @ 65+ average, and he is 23 - which WHITE batsman had to be dropped to accommodate him?
I think we need to risk it in the first game (pitch dependent)
Play our 6 bats, wicket keeper, faheem amir Abbas and one of Hasan and shaheen.
That will only work if our quick can bowl 22 overs each in the day.
It's a gamble but one we have to take I feel.
Shame they didn't let faheem bat today , which means they are probably not considering it
He is talking about the batting lineup for the first Test, they have to drop De Bruyn who scored a century in his previous match to play him, now that Philander is injured and Oliver is replacement.
Really? I don't desperately want him in the team but it will be a big call to not have your premier spinner in the playing XI. Is the pitch expected to be green?
Doesn't matter - Hamza deserves a spot in XI on playing merit. Quota system is never supported, but there is a reason for it as well - Cricket SAF is trying to promote the game among 90% of countries majority people, who have been kept aside deliberately from this game. Centuries long deprivation has limited the game among 10-12% people and unless non white community is encouraged to come in this game, SAF has no future in cricket. We have seen players like N'tini, Amla, Phillander, Tahir, Mahraz, Rabada, Ngidi .... making SAF team on merit - this'll continue and in future SAF will have enough players from non white community to make a good squad.
I can go back to 1950s & 1960s when some of the no names played for SAF simply for their skin color, some even Captained the Test side as well. It's not that SAF non whites are genetically inferior that they can't learn the game or excel in it - but they need leverage to overcome that 100 years head start by white community. Take soccer - Viv Anderson was first black man to represent England in 1977, today over half of English squad is non white. In 1984, there were only 2 black player is French Euro winning squad - today, 90% of their squad is non white. 10-12 years down the line, I am sure we'll see a tremendous SAF side again and that can only happen if their non white community comes more into the game. I actually don't see much commitment from most of the white SAF players - AdV definitely wasn't struggling to find his spot for racial quota and he left SAF at his prime.
There is definitely a requirement of racial quota, though the numbers we may disagree. Also, they are quite flexible with that number - selectors are allowed to pick more white players than the quota as long as they are managing the year end budget by playing more non whites in "soft" games. Given the century long discrimination, this is the only way to bring a parity, otherwise SAF will never reach their full potential. It's their country, their rule - I don't like this constant rant against non white players. For couple of years we had to read how Keshab Mahraj is depriving a spot of the supreme spinner Harmer that is!!!!
Having said that, form the squad they have picked, Hamza can easily play with De Bruyn - Elgar, Markram, Hamza, Amla, FaF, de Bruyn, Kok, Styen, Mahraz, Oliver, Rabada. It's Bavuma that can cost de Bruyn a spot, not Hamza.
18.1
W
Mohammad Amir to Brand, 2 runs, OUT,
TA Dithole run out (Hasan Ali/Mohammad Abbas/Yasir Shah/Shadab Khan/Mohammad Rizwan) 15 (66m 43b 2x4 0x6) SR: 34.88
can anyone explain this?
how is it possible . how many overthrows it need to make it happen found hard to believe
Seems like Mohammad Amir has booked his place in the XI for the 1st Test. It's gonna be a bit of a dilemma picking the XI, uncertainty over a few spots.
Imam and Shan Masood opening possibly to get a spot as an opener.
Let's see who wins.
I'm voting for Shan Masood
Imam and Shan in T20 mode to book their place for the first Test.
If Abbas remains unfit, then Amir, Hasan, Shaheen and Yasir along with Faheem depending on the pitch. Otherwise only one of Hasan/Shaheen will play.
Any updates on Muhammad Abbas ?
He did not bowl a single over in this match.
Amir does not get to play ahead of Hasan and Shaheen. He can keep his behind on the bench.
I have a feeling that Abbas is being rushed into it. They shouldn't play him if he's not 100% fit.