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South Africa (404 & 73/2) crush Pakistan (333 & 138) by 8 wickets in the second match to level the 2-match series 1-1

I feel this whole captaincy drama of LOis also played a negative role in the mindset of players. Should have waited for match to finish.
 
Devadwal said:
Pakistan WTC dream is most likely shattered :kp
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We were never in contention due to our pathetic batting. That was wishful thinking by some.

First aim should be to be among the top 4 or 5 test teams.

England away series next year will be a litmus test.
 
Didn’t watch a single ball of the match but these clowns were lucky to win Tosses in both matches? In 1st Test SA was not completely ready though they batted better than Pak in second innings.

And in 2nd Test they learned and adopted to the conditions, good teams do that. Poor teams like Pak just turn up and hope for the best. Whole country is in mess, not only cricket.
 
Match was lost when we let SA's tail add nearly 200 runs. Keeps happening again and again under Shan's captaincy.

Not good seeing yet another 2nd inns collapse too.

However I said before the series a 1-1 draw against the WTC champions would be an okay result given we finished bottom of the table in the last cycle.
 
just tuned in, what a dramatic turnaround.

But why a two test series? this was set up so beautifully at 1-1....

Commiserations to PP pak fans and good luck for the next series.
 
Thankfully Maharaj wasn’t available for first test or we could be looking at 0-2. He showed his class as compared to ash/jaddu I mean sajid/noman.

Stating the obvious but the first innings score was low for Pak. 333 on this track after winning toss wasn’t good. Then to concede 100s of runs for last few wickets. By the time we started our second innings it was an uphill battle that we could only lose.
 
Pathetic performance from Pakistan despite winning the toss and getting the best conditions to bat. The teams should always score above 500+ in the first innings on such tracks after winning the toss
 
Shan Masood: Hindsight is always there. You have to give credit to the opposition. They kept fighting. If we put ourselves in this situation after the first two days we would have taken it, unfortunately we didn't finish well with the ball and that last wicket stand hurt us. We are not shying away. But it will always be a reflection of the first two innings in these conditions. 98 runs ahead with two wickets to take and we let them off the go. It was costly period of 30 minutes where we let go of chances. It has been 4 wins out of 6 since we have operated on these wickets. 4 out of 6 isn't bad considering we came close in both those losses. As a side you are never perfect but 4 out 6 is always something you can build on.
 
Shan has my sympathies. Test class players are hard to develop these days. It's a dead format outside of the Big 3

Ironically, they can learn a lot from their opponents.

South Africa looked like they were going the WI/PAK route during the 2022/2023 season when they were getting hammered in Australia

But since the first season of SA20, they have completely turned it around and have proven themselves to be a very competent Test side despite their primary focus being completely on SA20 and white ball cricket.

PCB can learn a lot from CSA.
 
Ball Blazer said:
Shan Masood: Hindsight is always there. You have to give credit to the opposition. They kept fighting. If we put ourselves in this situation after the first two days we would have taken it, unfortunately we didn't finish well with the ball and that last wicket stand hurt us. We are not shying away. But it will always be a reflection of the first two innings in these conditions. 98 runs ahead with two wickets to take and we let them off the go. It was costly period of 30 minutes where we let go of chances. It has been 4 wins out of 6 since we have operated on these wickets. 4 out of 6 isn't bad considering we came close in both those losses. As a side you are never perfect but 4 out 6 is always something you can build on.
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How intellectually dishonest from Shan. I am starting to really dislike him. These are our results in tests:

1 L vs Bangladesh (Toss lost)
2 L vs Bangladesh (Toss lost)
3 L vs England (Toss won)
4 W vs England (Toss won)
5 W vs England (Toss lost)
6 W vs WI (Toss won)
7 L vs WI (Toss lost)
8 W vs RSA (Toss won)
9 L vs RSA (Toss won)

9 matches 4 wins 5 losses
5 of 9 matches were against bottom teams Bangladesh and WI
5 tosses won out of 9, 3 wins out of those 5. Out of 4 times when toss was lost we could only win ONCE!

Kick this duck Masood out of the team asap. 30 average loser talking nonsense. In what world is an 8 wicket loss in 3.2 days at home after winning toss close?!!!!!
 
Obaidd said:
Thankfully Maharaj wasn’t available for first test or we could be looking at 0-2. He showed his class as compared to ash/jaddu I mean sajid/noman.

Stating the obvious but the first innings score was low for Pak. 333 on this track after winning toss wasn’t good. Then to concede 100s of runs for last few wickets. By the time we started our second innings it was an uphill battle that we could only lose.
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Pakistan was looking to score 450-500. The reason they scored 333 is cause Pakistan keeps doing Pakistan things.

The tail enders are useless. The so called star batsmen Babar azam is useless.

Abdullah sahib is breaking records. Despite my compliments towards Imam for losing weight he is back to his old self in terms of play style. Bas 1 match ki baat thi.

And lastly the batting lineup is outdated in general. Sr does matter in test.

Australia would be a witless test batting lineup if they had 7 Steve Smith's at the crease 🤣🤣. You'd get draw after draw.

Thats why Travis Head, Cameron Green, Beau Webster

And from England's end Duckett, Brook etc etc are needed.

Scoring 250-5 on day 1 is a 1970's thing.

Shan masood, Abdullah, Imam, Babar, Rizwan, Saud, Agha. Even if these guys were competent batters they'd still remain an outdated winless lineup.

Even Misbah's 11 had to eventually switch things up by introducing Sarfi and Misbah + YK thensleves having to increase their SR( Which to their credit they did given how quickly they started scoring in UAE)

But these boys can't do that either.
 
Test series drawn 1-1 after South Africa’s commanding 8-wicket win in Rawalpindi

South Africa defeated Pakistan by eight wickets in the second Test at Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium, leveling the two-match series 1-1 after Pakistan’s 93-run victory in Lahore. The teams will now face off in a three-match T20I series starting 28 October at the same venue.

Resuming at 94 for four, Pakistan’s second innings crumbled despite Babar Azam’s 29th Test fifty (50 off 87). Rizwan fell soon after, and the tail offered little resistance as Pakistan were bowled out for 138 in 49.3 overs. Simon Harmer starred with the ball, taking 6 for 50 and finishing with eight wickets in the match.

South Africa chased the modest target of 68 in just 12.3 overs, losing two wickets. Captain Aiden Markram led the way with 42 off 45, while Ryan Rickelton remained unbeaten on 25. Noman Ali claimed both wickets and ended the series with 14 scalps.

Match Summary:
  • Pakistan: 333 & 138
  • South Africa: 404 & 73/2
  • Result: South Africa won by 8 wickets
  • Player of the Match: Keshav Maharaj
  • Player of the Series: Senuran Muthusamy
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Shan has my sympathies. Test class players are hard to develop these days. It's a dead format outside of the Big 3

Ironically, they can learn a lot from their opponents.

South Africa looked like they were going the WI/PAK route during the 2022/2023 season when they were getting hammered in Australia

But since the first season of SA20, they have completely turned it around and have proven themselves to be a very competent Test side despite their primary focus being completely on SA20 and white ball cricket.

PCB can learn a lot from CSA.
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It's a testament to South Africa's first-class system which continues producing test quality players. I remember that Australia series well and yes, they were hammered pretty badly. But I would argue that those players were still finding their feet in test cricket. They flipped the script on pretty much the same Australia at Lord's. The same can't be said about Pakistan's system. On top of that, these guys have been in the team for a while now.
 
Yet again it is choking that has caught up with us to register a defeat in a game we really had no business losing
Congrats to SA, they have shown why they're world champs with a formidable comeback
 
Pakistan batted first and got the best conditions to bat on both tests. Given that SA did very well to end with 1-1 score card.

Pakistan lost the plot by allowing SA tail to score lots of runs, otherwise SA would have found it hard to chase any decent total.
 
Babar continues to score a few pretty runs that have zero impact on the game. So tired of waiting for him to step up and play a champions knock in tough and critical situation. This game was ripe for him to showcase how he's a class above the rest - but again, 50 and out.

Getting out in the first over of the day again points to the fact that he is mentally not focused enough.
 
It doesn't make sense to make such turning tracks when your batters couldn't face quality spinners. The batters should prepare a lot better than this to play on such tracks against good quality spin bowlers if Pakistan is planning to keep on playing with such tactics of making spin friendly wickets and back their spinners to win them games. The batter should play their part too and in order to do that they should be playing spin a lot better than they did in this test match.
 
hassan918 said:
It doesn't make sense to make such turning tracks when your batters couldn't face quality spinners. The batters should prepare a lot better than this to play on such tracks against good quality spin bowlers if Pakistan is planning to keep on playing with such tactics of making spin friendly wickets and back their spinners to win them games. The batter should play their part too and in order to do that they should be playing spin a lot better than they did in this test match.
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They want to make spin tracks so SA don’t bang 250 on your roads…

Then Bobsy will be exposed
 
Rana said:
They want to make spin tracks so SA don’t bang 250 on your roads…

Then Bobsy will be exposed
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It wont matter. I believe amjad javed already talked about Pakistan taking an eternity to score 250 on day 1.

Test format is changing as well. We live in a world where the likes of duckett, Travis, Webster, Cameron Green, Renshaw, Harry Brook, Rachin Ravindra, Aiden Makram, Dewald Brevis, Jaiswal, Gill etc etc all play Test cricket.

Meanwhile Pakistan is playing with Imam, Abdullah, Babar, Rizwan, Saud etc etc. Our most aggressive batsmen is Agha and Shan who themsleves aren't that quick. He's just okayish and looks good cause the others are lullas.

Even Joe Root and Steve Smith upped their SR in test in recent times to keep up with the trends.

England literally have proven even 370 isn't a safe target on a 5th day test?

270+ which was once considered impossible to chase at the oval was chased by SA in a wtc final.

We now live in a world where Strike rates now matter in test cricket, while Pakistan is utilising imam as their Ace return to form Opener.
 
Abbottabad has English-type weather throughout the year.

Why don’t they build a world class stadium there? + being a garrison city there will be no security issues.

I am just sick and tired of seeing such low bounce, spin-friendly grass-less pitches.
 
I think 1-1 is a fair result.

In my opinion, South Africa are currently the best Test team (when they field their full side).
 
sweep_shot said:
I think 1-1 is a fair result.

In my opinion, South Africa are currently the best Test team (when they field their full side).
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They are not, you are mistaken. It's still Australia.

Them losing in wtc because conditons eased up to the point that starc ended up scoring a 50 and Australia getting the worst conditons to bat on does not mean SA is stronger.

Australia's problem is that for some reason they aren't using Ready made products like Kellaway and Renshaw in test cricket as openers are using rookies like konstas, or expired players like Konstas.

Cameron Green is a fantastic no 3 provided the crap order at the top actually bother to take responsibility and not vanish in the 1st or 2nd over.
 
mominsaigol said:
They are not, you are mistaken. It's still Australia.

Them losing in wtc because conditons eased up to the point that starc ended up scoring a 50 and Australia getting the worst conditons to bat on does not mean SA is stronger.

Australia's problem is that for some reason they aren't using Ready made products like Kellaway and Renshaw in test cricket as openers are using rookies like konstas, or expired players like Konstas.

Cameron Green is a fantastic no 3 provided the crap order at the top actually bother to take responsibility and not vanish in the 1st or 2nd over.
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Khawaja
 
Savak said:
Yes but poor captaincy from Shan sealed the deal. Test Cricket is a mental game as well and the demoralization of conceding a 74 run lead when you could have had a 124 run lead clearly told on the players
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They are consistently collapsing in 2nd innings for last 5 tests....its not that they concede lead that's why
 
Massively disappointing. Shocking how a no.10 and no.11 batted us out of the game. What a dumb decision taking that new ball.

Might be a drawn series, but really feels like a win for South Africa. We were at home, and we won both tosses. Had we lost the toss in the first test good chance South Africa would have won that too.
 
Unleashing grandpas against opposition on turning tracks with a hope of winning the toss is not a sustainable strategy. You would rather groom youngsters even with losses.
 
mominsaigol said:
Pakistan was looking to score 450-500. The reason they scored 333 is cause Pakistan keeps doing Pakistan things.

The tail enders are useless. The so called star batsmen Babar azam is useless.

Abdullah sahib is breaking records. Despite my compliments towards Imam for losing weight he is back to his old self in terms of play style. Bas 1 match ki baat thi.

And lastly the batting lineup is outdated in general. Sr does matter in test.

Australia would be a witless test batting lineup if they had 7 Steve Smith's at the crease 🤣🤣. You'd get draw after draw.

Thats why Travis Head, Cameron Green, Beau Webster

And from England's end Duckett, Brook etc etc are needed.

Scoring 250-5 on day 1 is a 1970's thing.
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Their tail stuck in one match and won it for them while ours didn’t contribute in 4 innings. Agha can farm the tail but give him an all-rounder to work with at 8 who’s shown some batting potential.

We don’t have those disruptor type players either who can play unorthodox shots or up the tempo. That would be great to have but we could have won this match even without those Green, Brook, Pant types.

Selecting a balanced playing xi would be a great first step.

mominsaigol said:
Shan masood, Abdullah, Imam, Babar, Rizwan, Saud, Agha. Even if these guys were competent batters they'd still remain an outdated winless lineup.

Even Misbah's 11 had to eventually switch things up by introducing Sarfi and Misbah + YK thensleves having to increase their SR( Which to their credit they did given how quickly they started scoring in UAE)

But these boys can't do that either.
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We are not even half as strong in Pak as we were in UAE. Remember at one point in time 5 Pak batsmen were in top 20 test rankings Azhar, Younis, Misbah, Shafique and Sarfaraz.
 
Obaidd said:
Their tail stuck in one match and won it for them while ours didn’t contribute in 4 innings. Agha can farm the tail but give him an all-rounder to work with at 8 who’s shown some batting potential.

We don’t have those disruptor type players either who can play unorthodox shots or up the tempo. That would be great to have but we could have won this match even without those Green, Brook, Pant types.

Selecting a balanced playing xi would be a great first step.


We are not even half as strong in Pak as we were in UAE. Remember at one point in time 5 Pak batsmen were in top 20 test rankings Azhar, Younis, Misbah, Shafique and Sarfaraz.
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I remember rizwan and Babar fans use to grill me at one point for claiming the likes of Azhar, Sarfaraz, and even Younis.

Yes apparently Babar on this forumn at one point was viewed > Younis, I am not kidding.

Are > Babar and Rizwan.
 
mominsaigol said:
I remember rizwan and Babar fans use to grill me at one point for claiming the likes of Azhar, Sarfaraz, and even Younis.

Yes apparently Babar on this forumn at one point was viewed > Younis, I am not kidding.

Are > Babar and Rizwan.
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This match was our opportunity to do something meaningful this year. We lost it.

The players will be around in other formats and leagues and what not and they might prove their fans or detractors right or wrong that’s not the point.

The point is for Pakistan we needed this 2-0 vs SA and we easily could have with better decision making and strategy. This one hurts because it’s a missed opportunity and the patterns we saw we’d seen repeat over the years. At so many levels, imbalanced team, not getting rid of the tail, not surviving first session, dropped catches, new ball at wrong time etc. We do batting collapses so often it’s not even funny anymore. Plus the thing you mentioned about strategy and execution style from a different era, it’s just sad.
 
Based on what i have seen in this series, Pakistan will need to copy India's template and will need to look to draft in 2-3 all rounders i.e. pace bowling all rounder and spin bowling all rounder in the lower order. Playing with specialists who blow hot and cold with the ball and consistently collapse and give advantage to the opposition is not a sustainable strategy. South Africa showed the value of batting all the way down to number 11
 
Savak said:
Based on what i have seen in this series, Pakistan will need to copy India's template and will need to look to draft in 2-3 all rounders i.e. pace bowling all rounder and spin bowling all rounder in the lower order. Playing with specialists who blow hot and cold with the ball and consistently collapse and give advantage to the opposition is not a sustainable strategy. South Africa showed the value of batting all the way down to number 11
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Why do you keep sucking up to India in every other post? They just lost to water boys. They are fully irrelevant in tests.
 
I'm interested to see how South Africa do in India. I think India are still heavy favorites for 2-0, and while South Africa's past few trips there have ended quite badly, this is a new Indian team and a new South African team. Maharaj is a far superior bowler than he was in 2019 and him and Harmer make up a good spin combo. Hopefully Bavuma comes back into the playing eleven.
 
This was a full-strength team too from Pak’s side in both matches, weren’t missing anyone.

SA were missing some names, were playing in alien conditions for many of their batters and lost both tosses. The 1-1 is a much better result for them than it is for pak notwithstanding SA are WTC winners. In these conditions, they weren’t looking like the world’s best test side but they had the mental strength. Rabada and Maharaj probably alone can account for pak team and board’s cumulative mental strength.
 
South africa B team beaten Pakistan... Presently India-Pak relations not good otherwise India also beaten Pakistan in Pakistan and humiliated them in front of their own crowd
 
What a massive group of losers. Yet another game these mental midgets choked away.

God forbid if they go even one inning without completely falling apart in the 2nd innings. SA tail enders scored more than what we did in the entire 2nd innings. It was the exact same issue that lost you the WI Test and the SA test in SA. I suppose you can only mask mediocrity in a Test match for so long before it reveals itself. This is just a mediocre team full of mediocre batters.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Shan Masood and his Team Finds a way to loose a test match every series from winning position

Melbourne 2024 Aus 16/4 in Second Innings Test Match Surrendered

Pindi 2024 Bang 26/6 Test Match Surrendered

Multan 2024 Test match loss after Scoring 556 in first Innings

Centurion SA 99/8 Chasing 150 We managed to Squander that

Multan 2025 WI 54/8 in First Innings We managed to loose from this position

Now At Pindi we have almost surrendered after having SA 7 down with 123 Trail

Bunch of idiots running our cricket
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Selectors theek ..players ko bhi gali dede
 
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