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The PCB have delayed finalizing the Test squad to take performances and fitness from this tour match into consideration.

Teams can field more than 11 players

About 3 hours to go.

Pakistan A Team
Usman Khan, Adnan Akmal†, Ahmed Shehzad, Asad Shafiq*, Attaullah, Babar Azam, Ehsan Adil, Haris Sohail, Imran Khan, Israrullah, Karamat Ali, Mohammad Talha, Rahat Ali, Raza Hasan, Shan Masood

Australians Team
MJ Clarke*, AJ Doolan, JP Faulkner, BJ Haddin†, BW Hilfenhaus, PJ Hughes, MG Johnson, NM Lyon, MR Marsh, GJ Maxwell, SNJ O'Keefe, CJL Rogers, PM Siddle, SPD Smith, MA Starc, DA Warner, SR Watson
 
Interesting game today! Lets see how this goes.
 
Warner won't play.

But he's made starts in all the matches so at least the conditions aren't troubling him too much.

Main point of interest from an Australian perspective would be Lyon/O'Keefe, whether Marsh can bowl and the Hughes/Doolan who is least bad fight
 
Asad Shafiq captain? HYPE!!!!!!!!

Haris Sohail in the middle order? HYPEE!!!!!!

Raza Hasan first international test experience? HYPE!!!!
 
Dont get me wrong but on what basis is this player attaullah selected? Cricinfo record shows that he has only played a single match in 2009 and was out for duck. ... any insights folks?
 
My XI

Shehzad
Masood
Shafiq
Haris
Babar
Israrullah
Akmal
Imran
Ehsan
Raza
Karamat

Not a first class match so both teams can use as many players as they want- for instance Australia could have Clarke bat instead of Lyon and then have Lyon field and bowl instead of Clarke.
 
Since it's not even a first class match I doubt there would be any broadcast.

But Bullet Drive will provide you fantasy updates as soon as match starts.

So no need to be perturbed or worried.

A couple of others will be providing fictional updates too.
 
Since it's not even a first class match I doubt there would be any broadcast.

But Bullet Drive will provide you fantasy updates as soon as match starts.

So no need to be perturbed or worried.

A couple of others will be providing fictional updates too.

He's already received calls from some of his buddies.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>No TV coverage for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash">#PAKvAUS</a> tour match, but we'll keep you updated here: <a href="http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v">http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v</a> plus video highlights after each day</p>— cricket.com.au (@CricketAus) <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/522261903301558272">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Follow the game here - http://www.cricket.com.au/news-list/2014/10/15/australia-v-pakistan-a-match-report-day-one
Video Higlights after every game too!
God bless Cricket Australia :yk
 
Here's the pitch
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The deck the Australians and Pakistan A will use for the next four days. Not first-class, everyone will play <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash">#PAKvAUS</a> <a href="http://t.co/Y19VjtCqSy">pic.twitter.com/Y19VjtCqSy</a></p>— Dave Middleton (@Dave_Middleton) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Middleton/status/522257792581644290">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Thoughts?
 
Offical lineups and batting order -

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Official team sheets from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash">#PAKvAUS</a> tour match <a href="http://t.co/JYBbSzdlJb">pic.twitter.com/JYBbSzdlJb</a></p>— Dave Middleton (@Dave_Middleton) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Middleton/status/522261589123031040">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Pitch looks pretty good for batting with one rough/grassy (can't tell) patch just short of a length.
 
Unpredictable bounce.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Fourth ball of Johnson's first over shot through very low. One run, and Peter Siddle to share new ball duties <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash">#PAKvAUS</a></p>— cricket.com.au (@CricketAus) <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/522266806359052288">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>WICKET! Mitchll Johnson strikes, Masood edges through to Haddin and Pakistan A are 1-6 Follow HERE: <a href="http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v">http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash">#PAKvAUS</a></p>— cricket.com.au (@CricketAus) <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/522268607145717761">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>WICKET! Mitchll Johnson strikes, Masood edges through to Haddin and Pakistan A are 1-6 Follow HERE: <a href="http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v">http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash">#PAKvAUS</a></p>— cricket.com.au (@CricketAus) <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/522268607145717761">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Masood not helping his chances I hope Babar makes runs because if Hafeez is unable to pass fitness Babar might get in via a backdoor.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>WICKET! Mitchll Johnson strikes, Masood edges through to Haddin and Pakistan A are 1-6 Follow HERE: <a href="http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v">http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash">#PAKvAUS</a></p>— cricket.com.au (@CricketAus) <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/522268607145717761">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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highlight of his career. Edging to keeper again and again.
 
Wow :facepalm:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>WICKET! Peter Siddle in the action, Israrullah caught by Smith in the slips cordon Pakistan A 2-11 PAKvAUS Follow: <a href="http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v">http://t.co/cuL0EntE7v</a></p>— cricket.com.au (@CricketAus) <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/522270007703506945">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Babar Azam in really early....
 
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why was Israrullah played ahead of maqsood, Fawad, Akmal?

To be honest none of the above deserve it. There are better FC players than Maqsood, Fawad hasn't scored and has been found out, Umar Akmal is undeserving.
 
Why is Asad Shafiq hiding behind youngsters? Shouldn't he be coming to bat at 3?
 
Israrullah scored all those runs in regional cricket against useless bowlers if he was that good why not any department picked him even after 8 centuries in regions?
 
this is shambolic our A side is being treated like a local club side.
 
Why is babar's first class average so low? Anyone has idea, do reply.
 
why was Israrullah played ahead of maqsood, Fawad, Akmal?

This !

Its shocking to see the exlusion of.maqsood. fawad and UA.

with the wc coming these 3 should play as much as possible.

Very poor planning.
very dissapointed.in waqar.
they have.no clue no planning.
 
Israrullah scored all those runs in regional cricket against useless bowlers if he was that good why not any department picked him even after 8 centuries in regions?

the onus is on selectors to pick the right squad. Abid Ali, Sohaib Maqsood, fawad Alam heck even Umer Amin were more deserving selections.
 
Israrullah scored all those runs in regional cricket against useless bowlers if he was that good why not any department picked him even after 8 centuries in regions?

I guess usman also scored most of his runs in regional cricket.
 
To be honest none of the above deserve it. There are better FC players than Maqsood, Fawad hasn't scored and has been found out, Umar Akmal is undeserving.

LOL fawad found out?
So based on one bad series he is found out?

UA should play these 4 day games. This will help him improve.

but like team management some fans have no clue as well.

tough times for pak.cricket.
 
I guess sami Aslam is more deserving than Babar based on first class average.
Maybe I m wrong. Babar averages only 25+
 
yes its strange Sami did not get this A game when he was actualy part of the odi squad.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Siddle comes in to bowl <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash">#PAKvAUS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sharjah?src=hash">#sharjah</a> <a href="http://t.co/7Gb6fLRHHy">pic.twitter.com/7Gb6fLRHHy</a></p>— Cricket Video (@CricketVideo) <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketVideo/status/522273752919187456">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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the onus is on selectors to pick the right squad. Abid Ali, Sohaib Maqsood, fawad Alam heck even Umer Amin were more deserving selections.

Fawad should be the first in the list when selecting new guys but i guess they want to make fawad another misbah by selecting him after 30
 
LOL fawad found out?
So based on one bad series he is found out?

UA should play these 4 day games. This will help him improve.

but like team management some fans have no clue as well.

tough times for pak.cricket.

Fawad has been found out. Australia know how to keep him out and you can clearly see it. Once you block his scoring regions, he will get himself out. He's got some work to do.
Umar Akmal shouldn't be anywhere near the test side until he becomes more mature. The guy can't even show enough maturity to bat at 6 in ODIs for us :facepalm:
 
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I guess usman also scored most of his runs in regional cricket.

IMO Hasris should be part of Test final 11 but i am sure these selectors will only select him if he score a double ton in this tour match otherwise he is going to warm the bench again.
 
Fawad has been found out. Australia know how to keep him out and you can clearly see it. Once you block his scoring regions, he will get himself out. He's got some work to do.
Umar Akmal shouldn't be anywhere near the test side until he becomes more mature. The guy can't even show enough maturity to bat at 6 in ODIs for us :facepalm:

Whats your top in wc?

Maqsood
fawad
UA

will be there. Very little int cricket left.
and your so called test bats are not performing.

based on domestic.stats fawad and ua should play ahead of shafiq and azhar.

time to.replace myk shafiq and azhar.
will never happen though.
 
Whats your top in wc?

Maqsood
fawad
UA

will be there. Very little int cricket left.
and your so called test bats are not performing.

based on domestic.stats fawad and ua should play ahead of shafiq and azhar.

time to.replace myk shafiq and azhar.
will never happen though.

If our best batsmen is the very same Fawad who couldn't rotate the strike in UAE pitches against Australia...

Then I don't know what to say.

Stop covering for him.

He knows he is found out.

Now let's see if he can obviate his shortcomings.

Personally I don't think so, because this approach has worked for him for 6-7 years or so, and it will be very hard to change his stance to compensate for being bogged down by high class bowling.
 
Whats your top in wc?

Maqsood
fawad
UA

will be there. Very little int cricket left.
and your so called test bats are not performing.

based on domestic.stats fawad and ua should play ahead of shafiq and azhar.

time to.replace myk shafiq and azhar.
will never happen though.

Actually my WC middle order would be

3.)Shafiq
4.)Hafeez
5.)Maqsood
6.)U Akmal
7.)Misbah (float) (no set batting order) (comes out according to situation)
 
If our best batsmen is the very same Fawad who couldn't rotate the strike in UAE pitches against Australia...

Then I don't know what to say.

Stop covering for him.

He knows he is found out.

Now let's see if he can obviate his shortcomings.

Personally I don't think so, because this approach has worked for him for 6-7 years or so, and it will be very hard to change his stance to compensate for being bogged down by high class bowling.

Maybe i saw a different series but let me tell what i saw.

He got out twice. The last dismissal was bad luck and some good thinking from the aus team.

It was not as if he already had faced 50 balls
There was no rr pressure.

In the second game they made him bat at 6. Yes number 6 and then indeed he looks lost. Thats not his game.

And right now top priority is the wc.

Shezad
Opener 2
Fawad
Misbah
Maqsood
UA
Sarfraz

This should be the top 7.
And this top 7 should have played as much as possible together.
 
these 2 are going just fine there is no need to go for shots its a good time to show that you can stay on the pitch both Babar and Ahmed are free flowing once they are in if they get through lunch I expect the SR to pick up.
 
Maybe i saw a different series but let me tell what i saw.

He got out twice. The last dismissal was bad luck and some good thinking from the aus team.

It was not as if he already had faced 50 balls
There was no rr pressure.

In the second game they made him bat at 6. Yes number 6 and then indeed he looks lost. Thats not his game.

And right now top priority is the wc.

Shezad
Opener 2
Fawad
Misbah
Maqsood
UA
Sarfraz

This should be the top 7.
And this top 7 should have played as much as possible together.

A top order with Fawad with 3 and Shehzad, Misbah and Fawad in the top order is a recipe for disaster.
If you think Fawad hasn't been found it, it's pointless discussing this with you, Fawad is a one dimensional player, block his scoring areas and he'll get himself out. Why would you have Sarfraz at 7 when he's clearly not a lower order basher... He's more suited to the top/middle order in ODIs. Also, no Hafeez? He's our best LOI player. He's a top 10 bowler and is handy with the bat. Amazing how people want him out.
 
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LOL fawad found out?
So based on one bad series he is found out?

UA should play these 4 day games. This will help him improve.

but like team management some fans have no clue as well.

tough times for pak.cricket.

Fawad has been found out. Just stop the singles and he's useless and he can't even play aerial shots too.
 
Ok ok if you have shafiq and hafeez at 3 and 4 i wont even argue with you.

Shafiq will come good when given an extended run at 3. He averages 35 at that spot. He averages 54 at a S/R of 87 in List A batting at #3 most of the time, he's our best List A player, and potentially our best international.
Hafeez is more suited to the middle order, his inability to play swing makes him a liability with the bat up top. Usually if Hafeez get's past the new ball, he looks very fluent. Moving from opening to 3 did wonders, imagine what moving to 4 or 5 would do for him.
 
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Masood not helping his chances I hope Babar makes runs because if Hafeez is unable to pass fitness Babar might get in via a backdoor.

probably tough for babar azam because see below

The 19-member provisional squad signed by PCB chief yesterday:

1. Ahmed Shehzad

2. Mohammad Hafeez

3. Taufeeq Umar

4. Shan Masood

5. Sami Aslam

6. Misbah UL Haq Captain

7. Younus Khan

8. Asad Shafiq

9. Azhar Ali

10. Harris Sohail

11. Mohammad Talha

12. Rahat Ali

13. Imran Khan

14. Ehsan Adil

15. Attaullah

16. Sarfraz Ahmed

17. Zulfiqar Babar

18. Yasir Shah

19. Raza Hassan

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...sional-Test-squad/page2&p=7214131#post7214131

sami aslam being named in the probables squad but not been play today, israarullah is been played ahead of him......

also there is no babar azam in the 19 probables list but he is also playing in the practice game....

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/727925.html
 
Starc should have opened the bowling with MJ. Siddle first change. Australia's bowling may not find much penetration here. Unless Starc finds some swing.
 
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Some massive tuking by Shehzad and Azam there.




Yeah! these two need to get a move on, can't let them bog us down...

calm down guys ..... that is how test should be played, build partnership , see off the new ball.... dont go for ur shots early on, stay there spend more time at the crease...
 
LOL fawad found out?
So based on one bad series he is found out?


UA should play these 4 day games. This will help him improve.

but like team management some fans have no clue as well.

tough times for pak.cricket.

not judging by one bad series, fawad really needs to work on his shortcomings... he is not big hit boundary player anyhow he needs to develop boundary hitting ability, boundary hitting is not slogging like afridi...

boundary hitting is all about finding and piercing the gap with pure timing... he lacks that... big teams will work him out easily as he is limited with his shots... u saw that in the 2nd ODI, the aussies didnt do much, they simply bowled him slow balls with the packed field on offside, they blocked his 1's and 2's and then he looked like a school boy holding the bat dont know wat to do....

play int'l cricket with int'l standards is what it said in that match...
 
Maybe i saw a different series but let me tell what i saw.

He got out twice. The last dismissal was bad luck and some good thinking from the aus team.

It was not as if he already had faced 50 balls
There was no rr pressure.

In the second game they made him bat at 6. Yes number 6 and then indeed he looks lost. Thats not his game.

And right now top priority is the wc.

Shezad
Opener 2
Fawad
Misbah
Maqsood
UA
Sarfraz

This should be the top 7.
And this top 7 should have played as much as possible together.

Batting position should have nothing to do with simple rotation of strike.

Let met tell you what I saw.

Fawad scores most of his runs in the point region and off side , where the cut shot seems his favorite. In the first game, Australians from slip to point to mid off region were Smith, Maxwell, Bailey,and Warner. They made sure Fawad couldn't get anything to the circle.
Since it was his first game, he didn't realize that he would have to do something else to score. Finally tried to play a cut shot and fell into the trap , of playing it straight to point.

Second match, came in at 6 ( dubious position I must admit) but when Umar Akmal departed all he had to do was take singles. Imagine that ring of fielders again. For 3 miserable overs, Fawad couldn't even buy a single except the last ball, which I think Aussie fielders were enjoying giving it to him on last ball of the over. Suddenly the poor guy realized, I really can't take singles against this team towards the off side, so he decided to try to hit. But poor muscle strength hampered his ability to hit the ball out of the infield.

In the end of 2nd ODI he looked a lost soul and didn't know how to take singles and how to hit.

3rd ODI.
Sees the spinners and decides the Aussies won't think he will play legside so decides to sweep the ball, pre-meditating the shot. But the Aussies knew this would be the get out shot. Smith moved brilliantly from slip to legside and took a great catch.

Now in your world, you can say he was in the wrong position.

My world : I saw a beaten man, who knew he was never going to hit big shots, but knew that the standards of fielding of Aussie team was so high, that he was never going to get the easy single he loved to get against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. A desperate man. In the end , even Babar probably sympathized with him, getting a better SR than him with effortless ease.

Blame : Batting position

Issue : Inability to rotate strike no matter what the position.

Thanks.. Try reading it if you can.
 
Batting position should have nothing to do with simple rotation of strike.

Let met tell you what I saw.

Fawad scores most of his runs in the point region and off side , where the cut shot seems his favorite. In the first game, Australians from slip to point to mid off region were Smith, Maxwell, Bailey,and Warner. They made sure Fawad couldn't get anything to the circle.
Since it was his first game, he didn't realize that he would have to do something else to score. Finally tried to play a cut shot and fell into the trap , of playing it straight to point.

Second match, came in at 6 ( dubious position I must admit) but when Umar Akmal departed all he had to do was take singles. Imagine that ring of fielders again. For 3 miserable overs, Fawad couldn't even buy a single except the last ball, which I think Aussie fielders were enjoying giving it to him on last ball of the over. Suddenly the poor guy realized, I really can't take singles against this team towards the off side, so he decided to try to hit. But poor muscle strength hampered his ability to hit the ball out of the infield.

In the end of 2nd ODI he looked a lost soul and didn't know how to take singles and how to hit.

3rd ODI.
Sees the spinners and decides the Aussies won't think he will play legside so decides to sweep the ball, pre-meditating the shot. But the Aussies knew this would be the get out shot. Smith moved brilliantly from slip to legside and took a great catch.

Now in your world, you can say he was in the wrong position.

My world : I saw a beaten man, who knew he was never going to hit big shots, but knew that the standards of fielding of Aussie team was so high, that he was never going to get the easy single he loved to get against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. A desperate man. In the end , even Babar probably sympathized with him, getting a better SR than him with effortless ease.

Blame : Batting position

Issue : Inability to rotate strike no matter what the position.

Thanks.. Try reading it if you can.

Yeah brutal, but mostly correct.
 
Poor treatment of Haris Sohail again today IMO. He should have been batting at 4, with Babar batting at 3.
Anyway, Babar's S/R is pretty low ATM.
 
Hafeez is doing well in odis at number 3..he has 5 tons at number 3. It wouldnt be wise to change his position for asad who hasnt even proved himself in odis.

Asad should play at number 4 or open the innings.
 
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