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Pakistan A v Australians | Tour Match | 15/10/2014 | Sharjah l Day 1

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good effort from Babar I know Aussies are not at full throttle but still it shows he has it in him to play top sides its guys like him who suffer most from lack of A tours.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Batting position should have nothing to do with simple rotation of strike.

Let met tell you what I saw.

Fawad scores most of his runs in the point region and off side , where the cut shot seems his favorite. In the first game, Australians from slip to point to mid off region were Smith, Maxwell, Bailey,and Warner. They made sure Fawad couldn't get anything to the circle.
Since it was his first game, he didn't realize that he would have to do something else to score. Finally tried to play a cut shot and fell into the trap , of playing it straight to point.

Second match, came in at 6 ( dubious position I must admit) but when Umar Akmal departed all he had to do was take singles. Imagine that ring of fielders again. For 3 miserable overs, Fawad couldn't even buy a single except the last ball, which I think Aussie fielders were enjoying giving it to him on last ball of the over. Suddenly the poor guy realized, I really can't take singles against this team towards the off side, so he decided to try to hit. But poor muscle strength hampered his ability to hit the ball out of the infield.

In the end of 2nd ODI he looked a lost soul and didn't know how to take singles and how to hit.

3rd ODI.
Sees the spinners and decides the Aussies won't think he will play legside so decides to sweep the ball, pre-meditating the shot. But the Aussies knew this would be the get out shot. Smith moved brilliantly from slip to legside and took a great catch.

Now in your world, you can say he was in the wrong position.

My world : I saw a beaten man, who knew he was never going to hit big shots, but knew that the standards of fielding of Aussie team was so high, that he was never going to get the easy single he loved to get against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. A desperate man. In the end , even Babar probably sympathized with him, getting a better SR than him with effortless ease.

Blame : Batting position

Issue : Inability to rotate strike no matter what the position.

Thanks.. Try reading it if you can.
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U nailed it right there Dr. BOSSim :14::27:... And saved my typing time...
 
Shahzad was already certain of a starting spot. What's the purpose of playing him? Should have played Sami Aslam instead. And Babar Azam is not even in 19. Unless, Sami Aslam is nailed on for a spot, this is very wrong with him.
 
Ahson Afzal said:
Poor treatment of Haris Sohail again today IMO. He should have been batting at 4, with Babar batting at 3.
Anyway, Babar's S/R is pretty low ATM.
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Test matches SR doesnt matter... Temperament , time to spend at the crease, fit enough to play 5day cricket this is what u need... Or else all hackle fickle sickle will TEST cricket...

"Test cricket is the real test of temperament and character for a cricketer"
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20 of 120 balls is 1000 times better than 20 (20)..........
 
It'll be some must watch TV if Pakistan bat like this in the Tests :))
 
Siddle to Babar Azam, FOUR, full delivery,
batsman drives it brilliantly into the covers
 
Kakar said:
Shahzad was already certain of a starting spot. What's the purpose of playing him? Should have played Sami Aslam instead. And Babar Azam is not even in 19. Unless, Sami Aslam is nailed on for a spot, this is very wrong with him.
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they might call him if he performs today...
 
I got to hand it Pakistani selectors today though.

I didn't think it was possible to get a player slower than Shehzad/Misbah pace, but Babar Azam has fit the niche very well.

Kudos :14:
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I got to hand it Pakistani selectors today though.

I didn't think it was possible to get a player slower than Shehzad/Misbah pace, but Babar Azam has fit the niche very well.

Kudos :14:
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the biggest question is whether pakistan national side be in a better position like this pak-A have now placed themselves in 87/2 in 31 overs

SR doesnt matter in tests.. he is young and may be he wants to stay and hung in there and make more runs not playing anything silly to lose his wicket and his dream of playing for the national side......
 
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JibranAnsari said:
Babar azam averages 27 in dimes5ic.. he has a strong support I guess.
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sometimes you have to make hunch picks Babar is one of those and he has handled himself well here though Israrullah should not have been there.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
SR doesnt matter in tests.. he is young and may be he wants to stay and hung in there and make more runs not playing anything silly to lose his wicket and his dream of playing for the national side......
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I know, but the last dynamic player we had was Akmal but sadly lost his brain along the way.

Now we only see two paces, Misbah or Afridi.

It's about intent.

Even in tests or 4 day match intent should be to score not to block every ball. And a SR of 25-30 even in First class match doesn't justice to one's abilities as a cricketer.
 
Lunch break. Score 87/2 in 32 overs.

People need to watch less of IPL/T20 run fests and more test matches. This is Pakistan batting we are talking about and these 2 are playing just fine. Solid temperament and good defences matter more than scoring runs and getting out soon.

Plus for someone like Babar who is only 20 and playing what could be a match that turns his career around, runs matter a million times more than SR. Kudos to Shehzad also for staying in there. One youngsta beauty showing other the ropes.
 
The might mystery spinner Steve O'Keefe at work. #ImpossibleToScore
 
These two are batting just fine. This is day one session one. The slowest of sessions when it comes to run making. Especially when you are 12/2. So stop pointing fingers at the strike rate of Babar. This is how first class cricket is played.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Batting position should have nothing to do with simple rotation of strike.

Let met tell you what I saw.

Fawad scores most of his runs in the point region and off side , where the cut shot seems his favorite. In the first game, Australians from slip to point to mid off region were Smith, Maxwell, Bailey,and Warner. They made sure Fawad couldn't get anything to the circle.
Since it was his first game, he didn't realize that he would have to do something else to score. Finally tried to play a cut shot and fell into the trap , of playing it straight to point.

Second match, came in at 6 ( dubious position I must admit) but when Umar Akmal departed all he had to do was take singles. Imagine that ring of fielders again. For 3 miserable overs, Fawad couldn't even buy a single except the last ball, which I think Aussie fielders were enjoying giving it to him on last ball of the over. Suddenly the poor guy realized, I really can't take singles against this team towards the off side, so he decided to try to hit. But poor muscle strength hampered his ability to hit the ball out of the infield.

In the end of 2nd ODI he looked a lost soul and didn't know how to take singles and how to hit.

3rd ODI.
Sees the spinners and decides the Aussies won't think he will play legside so decides to sweep the ball, pre-meditating the shot. But the Aussies knew this would be the get out shot. Smith moved brilliantly from slip to legside and took a great catch.

Now in your world, you can say he was in the wrong position.

My world : I saw a beaten man, who knew he was never going to hit big shots, but knew that the standards of fielding of Aussie team was so high, that he was never going to get the easy single he loved to get against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. A desperate man. In the end , even Babar probably sympathized with him, getting a better SR than him with effortless ease.

Blame : Batting position

Issue : Inability to rotate strike no matter what the position.

Thanks.. Try reading it if you can.
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Thank god someone here know's what they're talking about! Spot on!
 
If Babar Azam bats decently today, he will play if Hafeez is injured, he's the obvious replacement as he gives us a much needed bowling option that Hafeez brings.
 
shah masood isnt international quality and no shock he failed.

shehzhad getting good exposure against aussie spinners which is much needed.
 
I guess the Aussies will get a look at all pakistans possible test bowlers in this game which means the surprise element come the test matches will be gone.
 
Shan and Khurram are not international qualify. Israrullah, don't know much except he has made all his runs in regional cricket.

I did love Harris in the test XI
 
JibranAnsari said:
Hafeez is doing well in odis at number 3..he has 5 tons at number 3. It wouldnt be wise to change his position for asad who hasnt even proved himself in odis.

Asad should play at number 4 or open the innings.
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I think they have to try Hafeez at 4. To be honest Hafeez isn't the solution for #3. He will fail down under. I reckon Hafeez is more suited to the middle order, he should bat at 4, he's a walking wicket when the ball is moving. Asad Shafiq is ideal for #3 and should be our permanent #3.
 
Shehzad revives Pakistan A after early wickets
The Report by Brydon Coverdale in Sharjah
October 15, 2014
Lunch Pakistan A 87 for 2 (Shehzad 46*, Azam 25*) v Australians

Mitchell Johnson and Peter Siddle both made early breakthroughs for the Australians before Ahmed Shehzad started to find his touch in the tour match in Sharjah. Having chosen to bat, Pakistan A were 87 for 2 at lunch with Shehzad on 46 and Babar Azam on 25, the pair having put on 76 for the third wicket after coming together at 11 for 2.

There was some pace and carry for the fast men early but it soon became tough going and there was little in the pitch for Nathan Lyon and Steve O'Keefe, who operated in tandem for much of the session. Shehzad was especially willing to use his feet against Lyon and lofted him over long-on for six and back over his head for four, also pulling and clip a pair of consecutive boundaries through leg.

O'Keefe kept the runs a little tighter than Lyon but his quicker, skiddy style did not offer much threat if the batsmen were willing to see him off. The fast bowlers, Johnson and Siddle, found a few hints of movement early but once Shehzad saw that off he punched Johnson off the back foot for four through point and pulled Siddle for a cleanly struck six.

Johnson had started the day well by having Shan Masood caught behind in the third over with a fullish ball that moved away slightly, and his pace was good in the early stages. Siddle struck in the next over when No. 3 Israrullah got a thick edge to third slip, where Steven Smith took a sharp catch moving to his left.

The match does not have first-class status and the Australians have the option to bring on members from outside the starting XI, with Ben Hilfenhaus nominated as the playing 12th man. Mitchell Starc, James Faulkner and Glenn Maxwell were named on the team sheet as playing emergency fielders.

Australia had already announced that allrounder Mitchell Marsh would not bowl in the first innings as he continues his recovery from a hamstring injury, but they were hopeful he would bowl in the second in an effort to prove his fitness for the first Test.

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hussain.r97 said:
I think they have to try Hafeez at 4. To be honest Hafeez isn't the solution for #3. He will fail down under. I reckon Hafeez is more suited to the middle order, he should bat at 4, he's a walking wicket when the ball is moving. Asad Shafiq is ideal for #3 and should be our permanent #3.
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Thats what you reckon but he has been best number 3 in years for pakistan with 5 tons. Dont f8x anything which isnt broken.. shafiq should open or bat at number 4.
Averages 43 at sr 82 at 3 , vs av 34 sr 70 at three. I have my clear choice who should bat at 3.
 
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Dragon said:
so why aren't they showing the first test? or has it not started yet
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This is a scratch match.
Pakistan A vs an Australian team.
Both sides can use more than 11 players (though only 11 on the field at once and only 11 to bat per innings)

It's not even a first class match
 
JibranAnsari said:
Thats what you reckon but he has been best number 3 in years for pakistan with 5 tons. Dont f8x anything which isnt broken.. shafiq should open or bat at number 3.
Averages 43 at sr 82 at 3 , vs av 34 sr 70 at three. I have my clear choice who should bat at 3.
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Against non-minnows, it's 35 sr 76. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...=6;opposition=8;template=results;type=batting

Narrow it down and he averages 12 in AU, 6 in SA, and 12 in ENG at #3 vs non minnows. Considering a World Cup is coming, and considering in the longer run, Shafiq should be at 3, with Hafeez in the middle/lower order.
 
hussain.r97 said:
Against non-minnows, it's 35 sr 76. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...=6;opposition=8;template=results;type=batting

Narrow it down and he averages 12 in AU, 6 in SA, and 12 in ENG at #3 vs non minnows. Considering a World Cup is coming, and considering in the longer run, Shafiq should be at 3, with Hafeez in the middle/lower order.
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Against non minnows shafiq has average of 31 sr 68 at 3. Averages 17 in england and 1 in sa.

Again I have a clear view of who is better at number 3.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Against non minnows shafiq has average of 31 sr 68 at 3. Averages 17 in england and 1 in sa.

Again I have a clear view of who is better at number 3.
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Hafeez has played for longer. Shafiq has a far better potential and will come good if you give him some slack at 3. Hafeez is a walking wicket outside the SC, and right now we have to think about the WC in Australia/New Zealand. Shafiq has also proven himself on the big stage. I would have anyone but Hafeez in the top 3 outside Asia. Hafeez belongs in the middle order.
 
Lets see what Shafiq does.

Its time he started to show some consistency.Those pretty 50's after five innings of nothing are not going to cut it.
 
hussain.r97 said:
Hafeez has played for longer. Shafiq has a far better potential and will come good if you give him some slack at 3. Hafeez is a walking wicket outside the SC, and right now we have to think about the WC in Australia/New Zealand. Shafiq has also proven himself on the big stage. I would have anyone but Hafeez in the top 3 outside Asia. Hafeez belongs in the middle order.
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What potential.. averaging 26 after 50 matches? He is 29.. not a youngster so we can suppose that he will bloom. The supposition that hafeez will fail in australia at number 3 where none of the pakistani batsman has averaged more than him is a proper fallacy.
 
2 runs off the last 23 deliveries. Baber Azam should now take the initiative and rotate strike seeing as how he's the settled batsmen.
 
JibranAnsari said:
What potential.. averaging 26 after 50 matches? He is 29.. not a youngster so we can suppose that he will bloom. The supposition that hafeez will fail in australia at number 3 where none of the pakistani batsman has averaged more than him is a proper fallacy.
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I'm 100% sure no one averages less than Hafeez in Australia. Hafeez averages 12 in AU :facepalm:
It's no fallacy, it's a fact.
Shafiq averages 54 SR 97 in List A. If you give him a consistent run at his position (#3), someone with his ability, technique and temperament will be sure deliver. He hasn't played enough matches in Sa, England, AU, NZ to call him an ftb. He has a century vs SA in SA against a #1 SA attack in a pressure situation, and a few other pressure performances.
 
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Misbah is leaving behind quite a legacy..


Azhar ali
Ahmed shehzad

And babar azam might be a welcome addition.
 
hussain.r97 said:
I think they have to try Hafeez at 4. To be honest Hafeez isn't the solution for #3. He will fail down under. I reckon Hafeez is more suited to the middle order, he should bat at 4, he's a walking wicket when the ball is moving. Asad Shafiq is ideal for #3 and should be our permanent #3.
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azhar ali is doing good at no.3 and shafiq is doing good at no. 6.... ODIs over bro... Now we have test and i think ppl are talking about test matches... pls dont confuse or mislead
 
Babar Azam shouldn't have been picked for the 4 dayer. He hasn't down anything notable at FC level. He's however performed in LA and T20, but that shouldn't warrant a place in the 4 day side...
 
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Pakistan A skipper Asad Shafiq said that his team
has the ability to challenge Australia in the four-
day warm-up match at Sharjah starting from
Wednesday. Shafiq is confident that the youngsters
in the side will come good against Australia.
“Everyone must have confidence in the youngsters
and also the team. After the first match, our batting
improved in the second and in the third it was
even better. So we are getting better and we are
working on our mistakes and we will give our best
in this match,” Shafiq was quoted as saying by
Gulf News . “We have created a good combination
to play against Australia and hope to give our
best,” he added.
The skipper also thanked the selectors for
appointing him to lead Pakistan A. “I feel honoured
at being able to lead the Pakistan ‘A’ team. From a
personal point of view, it is a big honour,” he said.
Looking at the challenge of facing a strong Aussie
side, he said “Australian bowlers are superb,
especially their pace attack. They have come here
very prepared but we have improved with every
one-day match. Even in our practice our focus
was on how to apply ourselves and win matches.”
 
hussain.r97 said:
I'm 100% sure no one averages less than Hafeez in Australia. Hafeez averages 12 in AU :facepalm:
It's no fallacy, it's a fact.
Shafiq averages 54 SR 97 in List A. If you give him a consistent run at his position (#3), someone with his ability, technique and temperament will be sure deliver. He hasn't played enough matches in Sa, England, AU, NZ to call him an ftb. He has a century vs SA in SA against a #1 SA attack in a pressure situation, and a few other pressure performances.
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He averages 26 in international cricket and List A domestic would be useful only for untested players.

Hafeez last played in australia in 2005. A lot of water under the bridges. They had shane warne mcgrath gillespie then. I only can imagine what shafiq could have done against them.
 
Again the same problem shehzad gone after scoring a fifty. Now babar should some resistance and least get an 80
 
JibranAnsari said:
He averages 26 in international cricket and List A domestic would be useful only for untested players.

Hafeez last played in australia in 2005. A lot of water under the bridges. They had shane warne mcgrath gillespie then. I only can imagine what shafiq could have done against them.
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3 ya 4 ek he baat ha hamare opener consistently zyada time tik nai paate
y r u fighting
 
JibranAnsari said:
He averages 26 in international cricket and List A domestic would be useful only for untested players.

Hafeez last played in australia in 2005. A lot of water under the bridges. They had shane warne mcgrath gillespie then. I only can imagine what shafiq could have done against them.
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List A average can tell your capabilities in most cases. On top of his good record, he has a very good technique, good against pace/spin, plays the short ball well, making him a versatile player.
Ok Hafeez last went to AU in 2005, now tell me what he averages in SA/ENG in 2013. He averages 6 in SA and 12 in ENG. If he was in the middle order, i'm certain those averages would be higher. I'm not even going to bother if you reject the facts.
 
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