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These two should make a big partnership. Other than Shehzad they are the real batsmen on the team. A hundred would do nicely for both and Shafiq should definitely get there. Here is hoping. Shafiq has done well so far.
 
Yeah neither do I. Personally I would have..

1.)Shehzad
2.)Opener?
3.)Younis
4.)Haris
5.)Shafiq
6.)Misbah
7.)Sarfraz (wk)

If Hafeez is fit, we will probably see him opening. He gives us a much needed 5th bowling option, but is a liability as an opener. Can anyone else in this lineup open? If so, that would be great, it would mean Hafeez can bat lower down the order.

If Professor cant play I honestly think they will call up Babar purely for his bowling
 
Haris is someone who has a very good record, and technically he is pretty good too. But he has always been ignored by the selectors, mostly based on fitness issues. He's been included in the 19 man probable squad, but he'll probably need a good performance here to get him into the 15 maybe into playing XI, so he's under a bit of pressure and will be watchful. Think Shafiq will have to be the aggressor between the two.

I can understand his mindset. But's he's still going to need to up the strike rate a bit.
That said he hit a four just after I said that so he probably knows it as well.
 
whats the point of adnan akmal as wicketkeeper

wouldn't it have been better to try another option or even let sarfraz ahmed play.
 
Wow we can already see runs flowing more freely after Babar's wicket...

What match are you watching?

Babar had a SR of 30 and posters like you couldnt stop critisizing his slow approach. On the other side Haris has a SR of 26. I don't see you complain about his SR. Why not? Oh you must be a fan boy right? I have been crying for Sohails inclusion for the last 2-3 years, but I see all of them as pakistani players first and foremost. Praise those who are doing well, but also critisize the others no matter who they are.

This is 4 day match so just let all the kids play. It is first time some of them are facing this quality bowling and they should be allowed to take their time. They are also tiring out the aussie bowlers.
 
What match are you watching?

Babar had a SR of 30 and posters like you couldnt stop critisizing his slow approach. On the other side Haris has a SR of 26. I don't see you complain about his SR. Why not? Oh you must be a fan boy right? I have been crying for Sohails inclusion for the last 2-3 years, but I see all of them as pakistani players first and foremost. Praise those who are doing well, but also critisize the others no matter who they are.

This is 4 day match so just let all the kids play. It is first time some of them are facing this quality bowling and they should be allowed to take their time. They are also tiring out the aussie bowlers.

Babar did well, but if he rotated strike a bit more, he could have ended up with 20-25 more runs more than he got.
 
Interesting. How good a bowler is Babar Azam?

better than his stats suggest, i would say in between Maxwell and professor

Pretty sure he is being groomed as a future Professor, i just hope his batting stands up more
 
I can understand his mindset. But's he's still going to need to up the strike rate a bit.
That said he hit a four just after I said that so he probably knows it as well.

Yeah, let's see how he goes after the tea break
 
If Hafeez is fit how many of you are in favor of him playing as an offie?? I feel his bowling is criminally underrated here. He can turn the ball and has the straighter one as well.Has done really well whenever he has been given the ball for example vs SA and then also Eng in 12.

If they prepare rank tunners, I am all for going with three spinners with Adil being the seamer. Rahat and Talha are not going to get more wickets than Hafeez, period.
 
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better than his stats suggest, i would say in between Maxwell and professor

Pretty sure he is being groomed as a future Professor, i just hope his batting stands up more
Not bad. The LO team essentially is need of such a part time bowler or two for the sake of being able to add in more lower order batting depth.

If Hafeez is fit how many of you are in favor of him playing as an offie?? I feel his bowling is criminally underrated here. He can turn the ball and has the straighter one as well.Has done really well whenever he has been given the ball for example vs SA and then also Eng in 12.

If they prepare rank tunners, I am all for going with three spinners with Adil being the seamer. Rahat and Talha are not going to get more wickets than Hafeez, period.
Would play him at 5 or 6.
 
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Babar did well, but if he rotated strike a bit more, he could have ended up with 20-25 more runs more than he got.

But I dont see Haris rotating the strike either. He has scored 14 from 50+ balls., even slower than Babar.

I personally have no problem with slow sr, but treat the players equally. When set they can allways play faster.

One bad thing Babar did was throwing his wicket away. Hopefully Haris wont do that.
 
Rizwan was the best option for the A game.

I know its not much to go by but i haven't seen a single ex player express confidence in rizwans keeping. Rashid called him a backstop and after watching a few games i could see why.

Adnan is also a waste though, i like him but his batting is number 8 at best.

The selectors should have picked either Rehan Afridi http://www.espncricinfo.com/Australia/content/player/392285.html

or they should have gone with B. Khan for this game as well
 
What match are you watching?

Babar had a SR of 30 and posters like you couldnt stop critisizing his slow approach. On the other side Haris has a SR of 26. I don't see you complain about his SR. Why not? Oh you must be a fan boy right? I have been crying for Sohails inclusion for the last 2-3 years, but I see all of them as pakistani players first and foremost. Praise those who are doing well, but also critisize the others no matter who they are.

This is 4 day match so just let all the kids play. It is first time some of them are facing this quality bowling and they should be allowed to take their time. They are also tiring out the aussie bowlers.

When Haris just came in, there were no maidens for the next 4 overs, scoreboard was ticking at 3RPO. When Babar was there, all i saw was maiden after maiden. Now Haris has gone below 30, needs to amp it up just a little bit.
 
If Hafeez is fit how many of you are in favor of him playing as an offie?? I feel his bowling is criminally underrated here. He can turn the ball and has the straighter one as well.Has done really well whenever he has been given the ball for example vs SA and then also Eng in 12.

If they prepare rank tunners, I am all for going with three spinners with Adil being the seamer. Rahat and Talha are not going to get more wickets than Hafeez, period.

If Hafeez is fit, he should play hands down. I don't see how we can win games with this 4 bowlers ploy, it's already backfired on us. Hafeez gives us a more than decent 5th bowling option. Seamers should be Ehsan and Rahat imo.
 
Not bad. The LO team essentially is need of such a part time bowler or two for the sake of being able to add in more lower order batting depth.

Babar comes across as a top order bat but i have seen him do some decent hitting in the past.

I remember a warmip game for the 2012 india series which was a Misbah 11 vs Malik 11 game. Malik's team was basically Pak A. Babar came in at 6 and hit 60 odd at a strike rate of 120 to chase down the total. Keep in mind he was playing Ajmal, Gul and Irfan


The one disappointing thing about him though is that he hasn't done well in first class which is a bit mind boggling when you consider the gifts he posses
 
This is more like it. Hopefully they maintain/increase the RR.

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If Hafeez is fit, he should play hands down. I don't see how we can win games with this 4 bowlers ploy, it's already backfired on us. Hafeez gives us a more than decent 5th bowling option. Seamers should be Ehsan and Rahat imo.

I wanted Bhatti over Rahat, mainly because i dont think the seamer will do much so might as well have one who can bat, but since he isn't here i would want Rahat and Ehsan.


Rahat at least has decent pace and swings it both ways, just needs consistency
 
But I dont see Haris rotating the strike either. He has scored 14 from 50+ balls., even slower than Babar.

I personally have no problem with slow sr, but treat the players equally. When set they can allways play faster.

One bad thing Babar did was throwing his wicket away. Hopefully Haris wont do that.

Haris has played 50 odd deliveries yet, Babar had played 100. Haris can improve his S/R, if he doesn't dont worry, I will criticize him as well. Batting with a higher S/R is likely to be beneficial for your own cause. Nobody is telling them to hit boundaries every ball, just rotate strike more. As I said Babar missed out on 20-25 runs because of poor strike rotation.
 
If Hafeez is fit, he should play hands down. I don't see how we can win games with this 4 bowlers ploy, it's already backfired on us. Hafeez gives us a more than decent 5th bowling option. Seamers should be Ehsan and Rahat imo.

Rahat is not going to get a single wicket. So what's the use playing him??

If the rank tuners theory is correct, Azhar and Shehzad will be more the enough as fifth bowling options..Esp Shehzad, he can turn it a long way.Was troubling Sanga and Mathews in Lanka.
 
I know its not much to go by but i haven't seen a single ex player express confidence in rizwans keeping. Rashid called him a backstop and after watching a few games i could see why.

Adnan is also a waste though, i like him but his batting is number 8 at best.

The selectors should have picked either Rehan Afridi http://www.espncricinfo.com/Australia/content/player/392285.html

or they should have gone with B. Khan for this game as well

Yeah Ive heard people say his keeping-technique isnt good but if he doesn't drop catches and if he's scoring runs, I won't mind that at all. Rehan, Bismillah would be better options batting-wise, yeah.
 
Rahat is not going to get a single wicket. So what's the use playing him??

If the rank tuners theory is correct, Azhar and Shehzad will be more the enough as fifth bowling options..Esp Shehzad, he can turn it a long way.Was troubling Sanga and Mathews in Lanka.

You need 2 seamers to share the new ball. Talha won't be any better than Rahat. Rahat will give you a left right combo + Rahat can swing the ball at a decent pace.
 
What happen to ATG Haris Sohail's SR? Slower than selfish Asad.

Misbah must have told Haris T20 Beast to bat at such poor SR.
 
You need 2 seamers to share the new ball. Talha won't be any better than Rahat. Rahat will give you a left right combo + Rahat can swing the ball at a decent pace.

New ball or not, how confident are you of Talha or Rahat picking up a wicket?? The pitches are most likely to be turners with nothing for the pacers. No need to play them just for the sake of it.
 
Babar comes across as a top order bat but i have seen him do some decent hitting in the past.

I remember a warmip game for the 2012 india series which was a Misbah 11 vs Malik 11 game. Malik's team was basically Pak A. Babar came in at 6 and hit 60 odd at a strike rate of 120 to chase down the total. Keep in mind he was playing Ajmal, Gul and Irfan
Nice. Also I didn't necessarily mean him batting in the lower order, more as in his part time bowling even when slotted up top and someone's else together allowing lesser specialist bowlers needing to be played. Another method being slotting the likes of Kamran Ghulam at 7 and Zafar Gohar at 8 followed by just the 3 specialist bowlers when Afridi the curse eventually makes way.

I believe nailing the team balance right makes a significant difference.
 
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New ball or not, how confident are you of Talha or Rahat picking up a wicket?? The pitches are most likely to be turners with nothing for the pacers. No need to play them just for the sake of it.

Who do we play ahead of them then? Who shares the new ball with Ehsan? Rahat may pick a couple of wickets here and there. He's not that bad, got the skill set, just doesn't use head.
 
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What happen to ATG Haris Sohail's SR? Slower than selfish Asad.

Misbah must have told Haris T20 Beast to bat at such poor SR.

And who told you Haris had a great SR in T20s? He has a sr of 107 in domestic T20.

Let the kid play. He values his wicket. He can hit sixes but he like to play carefully and that is what we want. We do not have many players like him so it is completely fine that he is playing like this. Once set he will rotate the strike and also hit boundaries.
 
Who do we play ahead of them then? Who shares the new ball with Ehsan? Rahat may pick a couple of wickets here and there. He's not that bad, got the skill set, just doesn't use head.

We play three spinners and Adil as the seamer.Hafeez,Adil,Babar and Yasir should be the bowling attack provided the pitches are rank turners.
[MENTION=57355]pakistanigoneaussie[/MENTION] what do you think??
 
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We play three spinners and Adil as the seamer.Hafeez,Adil,Babar and Yasir should be the bowling attack provided the pitches are rank turners.
[MENTION=57355]pakistanigoneaussie[/MENTION] what do you think??

But that would just be wasting the new ball...
 
Sohail has a FC average of 50, more tons than the other contenders/current players, is 25 years old- why on earth is he not in tests?

If runs count he should be first in the line surely? Why play guys with FC averages of 35/40 when this guy stands out?
 
Decent performance from pakistan A so far, but typically no batsmen has scored a hundred here, 50s/60s dont really win you games or provide foundations for very big team totals.
 
And who told you Haris had a great SR in T20s? He has a sr of 107 in domestic T20.

Let the kid play. He values his wicket. He can hit sixes but he like to play carefully and that is what we want. We do not have many players like him so it is completely fine that he is playing like this. Once set he will rotate the strike and also hit boundaries.

If it was Azhar playing at this SR you wouldn't be saying this.
 
But that would just be wasting the new ball...

Rahat and Talha waste the new ball anyways. Have you seen them bowl?? And I am pretty sure whatever the swing its not going to last more than five overs.

If Junaid was there I would have played two seamers too.But just playing a bowler for 5 overs doesn't seem a good decision to me.
 
Shehzad, Shafiq impress on flat pitch
The Report by Brydon Coverdale in Sharjah
October 15, 2014

Tea Pakistan A 170 for 4 (Shafiq 41*, Sohail 14*) v Australians

Nathan Lyon was the only one of Australia's likely frontline Test bowlers who remained wicketless at tea on the first day of the warm-up match in Sharjah, where Pakistan A had reached 170 for 4. Captain Asad Shafiq took a liking to Australia's three spinners and had reached 41 at the break with Haris Sohail on 14, after Ahmed Shehzad earlier scored an entertaining half-century.

The match does not have first-class status and the teams are limited to 90 overs per innings, so the Australians were keen to spread the bowling load throughout the squad. Mitchell Johnson and Peter Siddle each struck in the early stages of the day before Ben Hilfenhaus chipped in with a wicket after lunch and Steve O'Keefe also had success in his audition for a Test debut.

Several of the Pakistan batsmen made starts but failed to build a big score, although Shafiq showed his Test class and looked dangerous during the second session. He smashed O'Keefe for six over long on and was also keen to use his feet against Lyon, and when Glenn Maxwell was given three overs shortly before tea he too was struck for a pair of boundaries by Shafiq.

There was not a great deal of turn in the pitch but in the hot conditions the spinners were always going to be asked to do the bulk of the work, and O'Keefe was the only one to make a breakthrough. He got rid of Babar Azam, who had compiled a patient 40 when he advanced and tried to loft O'Keefe down the ground, only to find the safe hands of James Faulkner at mid-on.

The Pakistan batsmen had generally found O'Keefe, with his accurate, skiddy style, tougher to get away than Lyon, who was more prepared to flight the ball and therefore a more appealing prospect to attack. After a cautious start, the opener Shehzad had also enjoyed going after Lyon and used his feet well against the spin, lofting him over long-on for six and back over his head for four.

The new-ball bowlers, Johnson and Siddle, found a few hints of movement early but once Shehzad saw that off he punched Johnson off the back foot for four through point and pulled Siddle for a cleanly struck six. But both fast men had struck in their early spells to leave Pakistan A at 11 for 2 after they chose to bat.

Johnson had Shan Masood caught behind in the third over with a fullish ball that moved away slightly, and his pace was good in the early stages. Siddle struck in the next over when No.3 Israrullah got a thick edge to third slip, where Steven Smith took a sharp catch moving to his left.

Siddle created another half-chance when he returned for a post-lunch spell and drew an edge from Azam, but the ball fell just short of Smith at first slip. The Australians regularly rotated players through the field with all members of the squad, apart from the injured David Warner, available to be used in the match.

Australia had already announced that allrounder Mitchell Marsh would not bowl in the first innings as he continues his recovery from a hamstring injury, but they were hopeful he would bowl in the second in an effort to prove his fitness for the first Test.

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Very disturbing not to see the likes of UA. Fawad and maqsood !

Dont feel for umar akmal. That idiot will never learn. Yea, Fawad alam and maqsoob will be missed esp. Fawad - he has the ability to score bug hundreds and double hundreds. He made 168 on test debut against srei lanka
 
Rahat and Talha waste the new ball anyways. Have you seen them bowl?? And I am pretty sure whatever the swing its not going to last more than five overs.

If Junaid was there I would have played two seamers too.But just playing a bowler for 5 overs doesn't seem a good decision to me.

Junaid would waste the new ball too. Rahat Ali get's the ball to swing, he should definitely play ahead of Talha. Playing only one seamer will backfire.
 
Lyon to Haris Sohail, FOUR, beautifully driven straight down the ground
 
70.6

Lyon to Haris Sohail, FOUR, gives the charge and hits it over the mid-on fielder into the fence
70.5

Lyon to Haris Sohail, 2 runs, goes onto the backfoot and late cuts the balls into the point area


all the shots coming into play. This is why Haris is rated highly because he has some good range of shots to score..:14:
 
been a critic of sohail but if he gets a big score he has to be in the reckoning. My only worry is our useless top order. with jonno and siddle getting early movement even on these phattas it could mean 11-3 before we know it.
 
70.6

Lyon to Haris Sohail, FOUR, gives the charge and hits it over the mid-on fielder into the fence
70.5

Lyon to Haris Sohail, 2 runs, goes onto the backfoot and late cuts the balls into the point area


all the shots coming into play. This is why Haris is rated highly because he has some good range of shots to score..:14:

That is exactly what I said. He has abiltity to increase his SR when set. Hopefully he will play the first Test inshaAllah.
 
Junaid would waste the new ball too. Rahat Ali get's the ball to swing, he should definitely play ahead of Talha. Playing only one seamer will backfire.

No it won't. Any Junaid is better than anyone with the new ball in the country ATM.Doesn't swing it much but gets decent seam movement.

Anyway, new ball or the old one, bottom line is Rahat and Talha can't buy a wicket even against Lanka, what hope do they have against the Aussies??

I can bet that if all three playing, Hafeez will end up with more wickets than both.
 
Shafiq this is the time to become a star. You've had ups and downs but finally look like you've worked out the silly kinks. You need to get fifties and centuries every other innings now in test and you need to hit 3 figures in one day.
[MENTION=107807]Pete Rose[/MENTION] and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] if he really has worked on his issues and we keep him at 3, he may be the player that could lead Pakistans batting in the WC. Really needs to ensure he knows what he can be and not get hampered down by bowling attacks and instead throw them off with a bit of originality in his batting.

Sarfraz and Shehzad should be set as openers, Shafiq I give him till the WC since we lack options and he's looked solid, after that though is the issue. If Umar could get his damn head in the game that top 4, with talent, aggression, temperament and an anchor is actually not bad.
 
been a critic of sohail but if he gets a big score he has to be in the reckoning. My only worry is our useless top order. with jonno and siddle getting early movement even on these phattas it could mean 11-3 before we know it.

That is exactly what happend in the tour match earlier today, two early wickets. The report from the ground said it was good bounce and carry early on with the new ball.
If we somehow can get through the first 10-12 overs without losing a wicket that would mean lesser preassure on the middle order.
 
Reading the commentary at CI, Haris seems to be in utmost ease. Brilliant player.
 
That is exactly what happend in the tour match earlier today, two early wickets. The report from the ground said it was good bounce and carry early on with the new ball.
If we somehow can get through the first 10-12 overs without losing a wicket that would mean lesser preassure on the middle order.

we need to see off the first spells. I don't care what the score is as long as we don't lose any wickets because we can make them pay if our lot get set. I have a horrible feeling that if they bat fisrt they will come at us like a train in our first innings. could be over quickly
 
Shafiq this is the time to become a star. You've had ups and downs but finally look like you've worked out the silly kinks. You need to get fifties and centuries every other innings now in test and you need to hit 3 figures in one day.
[MENTION=107807]Pete Rose[/MENTION] and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] if he really has worked on his issues and we keep him at 3, he may be the player that could lead Pakistans batting in the WC. Really needs to ensure he knows what he can be and not get hampered down by bowling attacks and instead throw them off with a bit of originality in his batting.

Sarfraz and Shehzad should be set as openers, Shafiq I give him till the WC since we lack options and he's looked solid, after that though is the issue. If Umar could get his damn head in the game that top 4, with talent, aggression, temperament and an anchor is actually not bad.
Yup, his problem is more mental than anything.Has all the shot, good on the frontfoot,backfoot; can play both spin and pace but still doesn't seem to click.

Needs to stand up now, its about time and get some consistency into his game.Also needs to stop his habit of throwing away starts.
 
Reading the commentary at CI, Haris seems to be in utmost ease. Brilliant player.

Looks like Shafiq is the more at ease but both looking good. This should be a century for both. They are set and at ease. Do not throw this away. These two could be the middle order batsmen we've been waiting for. Shafiq has definitely improved in his off time.
 
Lyon to Haris Sohail, no run, backfoot defense to the point fielder
72.4

Lyon to Haris Sohail, no run, frontfoot defense


Not bad haris
 
Anybody watching it live? - I don't know if they are showing it any where
 
Lyon to Haris Sohail, FOUR , looked like he was
waiting for a flighted delivery saw it
coming,came down the track and smashed it
over the mid-on fielder couple of bounce into
the fence

Haris accrlerating now
 
Hope Haris plays to his potential today. He's looking good now. Been regarded as a proper test player for long time, I never understood why he never got a chance in tests... I remember when in 2012 he was in beast mode and his FC avg was touching 60 and people were madly pushing for his selection. His scores in 5 consecutive FC matches were (2 innings): 115*, 58*, 117, 3, 120, 5, 35, 68*, 152

This was the tournament, in case anyone's curious.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-domestic-2012/content/series/584258.html
 
O'Keefe to Haris Sohail, SIX, he's seeing it like a football, walks down the pitch and smacks it over mid-wicket for a maximum

great shot..
 
Hits O'Keefe for a :six now. This is truly brilliant. Sending out a message to the selectors.
 
Looks like Shafiq is the more at ease but both looking good. This should be a century for both. They are set and at ease. Do not throw this away. These two could be the middle order batsmen we've been waiting for. Shafiq has definitely improved in his off time.

Only 90 overs allowed per innings. So don't think they can get there but yeah both should target Notouts at the day's end.

A :six by Haris as I write.
 
Sohail has a FC average of 50, more tons than the other contenders/current players, is 25 years old- why on earth is he not in tests?

If runs count he should be first in the line surely? Why play guys with FC averages of 35/40 when this guy stands out?

Fitness.:23:
 
No need to worry guys. I think he was trying to get runs quickly.

You are only allowed to bat 90 overs per innings.
 
pakistani batsmen have to learn the difference between being agressive and going ott. :facepalm:

but Haris should play over azhar ali atleast for a trial period.
 
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