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Pakistan A v Australians | Tour Match | 15/10/2014 | Sharjah l Day 1

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His out, but at least showed what he is capable of and I hope, we get to see him in the 2nd innings.
 
Arsal_AK said:
Only 90 overs allowed per innings. So don't think they can get there but yeah both should target Notouts at the day's end.

A :six by Haris as I write.
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only 90? may be that's the reason for over attacking I guess.
 
My test side....Shan Masood, Shahzad, Yunis ( C ), Azhar Ali, Harris Sohail, Asad Shafiq, Sarfaraz ( wk ), Wahab, Juniad, Raza Hasan and Karamat Ali or bilawal Bhati ( depending of the pitch )
 
very good innings by haris, but it is important to note he mostly faced lyon and o keefe,

did not have a single delivery from johnson.

He took all his runs from smashing lyon and o keefe.

But considering our international squad are bunnies against spin, haris still warrants a spot in the team.
 
Effy said:
My test side....Shoan Masood, Shahzad, Yunis ( C ), Azhar Ali, Harris Sohail, Asad Shafiq, Sarfaraz ( wk ), Wahab, Juniad, Raza Hasan and Karamat Ali or bilawal Bhati ( depending of the pitch )
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Wahab is unfit.
 
The match does not have first-class status and the
teams are limited to 90 overs per innings,
 
Since only 90 overs are allowed per team, they should show some intent like Harris was trying to.
 
We need a left hander in the middle order... Pakistan generally don't pay attention to little details, that's why all right handers bottled against Harath... Knowing that why in the world you will left our a decant left hander.... Pragmatic Misbah and Co
 
Fastandfurious said:
He wants Pakistan's standards to be higher however he does misread/misunderstand a player's performance or potential sometimes.
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A lot of us overestimate some players and underestimate others. I rate haris though.. I just described his innings how it was.
 
blackanhyellow said:
pakistani batsmen have to learn the difference between being agressive and going ott. :facepalm:

but Haris should play over azhar ali atleast for a trial period.
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you can dream about Azhar Ali not playing. Azhar and Asad's spot is fixed in the playing 11.
 
How about this people, for the first test??

Shehzad.
Azhar.
Haris/Shafiq.
Younus.
Misbah.
Shafiq/Haris.
Sarfraz.
Hafeez.
Yasir.
Ehsan.
Babar.

Pitch type: A Bunsen Burner.:P
 
only 14 more over remaing for pak to play, they should be more aggressive.
 
Shafiq with back to back sixes of O'Keefe.

They really have gone after O'Keefe in the latter part of this innings.
 
Arsal_AK said:
How about this people, for the first test??

Shehzad.
Azhar.
Haris/Shafiq.
Younus.
Misbah.
Shafiq/Haris.
Sarfraz.
Hafeez.
Yasir.
Ehsan.
Babar.

Pitch type: A Bunsen Burner.:P
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Why would you want to pick Hafeez in a test match?
 
Going by the flow i think we should have this batting lineup in the first test:

Ahmad shehzad
Azhar Ali
Asad Shafiq
Younus Khan
Haris Sohail
Misbah ul Haq
Sarfraz Ahmad (wk)
 
Hilfenhaus to Adnan Akmal, FOUR, superbly onto the backfoot and cuts it past point


:))) Adnan is in for a quick 50.
 
steelo green said:
Shafiq this is the time to become a star. You've had ups and downs but finally look like you've worked out the silly kinks. You need to get fifties and centuries every other innings now in test and you need to hit 3 figures in one day.
[MENTION=107807]Pete Rose[/MENTION] and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] if he really has worked on his issues and we keep him at 3, he may be the player that could lead Pakistans batting in the WC. Really needs to ensure he knows what he can be and not get hampered down by bowling attacks and instead throw them off with a bit of originality in his batting.

Sarfraz and Shehzad should be set as openers, Shafiq I give him till the WC since we lack options and he's looked solid, after that though is the issue. If Umar could get his damn head in the game that top 4, with talent, aggression, temperament and an anchor is actually not bad.
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Well, you are rare breed of poster. Few want to even budge from their original point of view. Back on Shafiq, he has done better so far in every innings that he has played. It would be fanboyish of me to say it's all good and he is gonna be smashing it every innings, I expect a hiccup here or there. But I think he is hitting a rich vein of form and as you he needs to cash in right. Long term, he is the real deal. The best way for me to judge good players is to see how easily they rotate the strike against good bowling.
It was a HUUGE call for management to put him here, given the amount of abuse they would with his poor record. But so far he is proving their faith in him: a rare moment of applause for them, no matter how tempered.
 
Asad playing a captain's knock here. I am sure more and more posters here will understand how important it is to have technically correct players in Tests/ODIs.
 
Pakistan shold try Bambar khan, he is young and bowls at 150 kmp/hour consistently, he is only 19 years.
 
yes Bambar khan has real pace, he bowls at 95 miles speed and is young and agressive.
 
Arsal_AK said:
Because he is a fantastic spinner and comfortably a better bowler than the likes of Talha and Rahat.

Second, we need a offie in the team can be very dangerous against there lefties.
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So u r trying to say that we should have a single pacer and three spinners?
 
Pakistan shold try Bambar khan, he is
young and bowls at 150 kmp/hour
consistently, he is only 19 years.

Haha!! so where is he ??
 
Arsal_AK said:
Because he is a fantastic spinner and comfortably a better bowler than the likes of Talha and Rahat.

Second, we need a offie in the team can be very dangerous against there lefties.
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We can't have another container in the team with our pacers being inexperienced and he's not a good enough bat to play in the top 6.
 
Noway Adnan is going to make it to playing 11 even if he score a 20 ball century
 
Arsal_AK said:
We don't have any pacer apart from Ehsan capable of getting wickets.Talha with his 128 kph thunderbolts is not going to be a help at all neither is Rahat Ali who makes Sami look like Mcgrath.
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imran khan or atta ullah
 
Fastandfurious said:
We can't have another container in the team with our pacers being inexperienced and he's not a good enough bat to play in the top 6.
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I would bet on him scoring more than Azhar this series.

But thats not the point, as I said Junaid, Wahab are not available and Rahat, Talha are not good enough. Hafeez is comfortably better as a bowler than both esp in these conditions.
 
Bambar khan is from NWFP, Legendry Imran khan spotted him a few months back and he bowled at 95 miles per hour.
 
Arsal_AK said:
I would bet on him scoring more than Azhar this series.

But thats not the point, as I said Junaid, Wahab are not available and Rahat, Talha are not good enough. Hafeez is comfortably better as a bowler than both esp in these conditions.
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If Pakistan decide to go with three spinners, then Raza, Yasir and Babar are the better options. Unlike ODI's, Aus will have time to settle against Hafeez and will obliterate him because of his lack of turn.
 
Fastandfurious said:
If Pakistan decide to go with three spinners, then Raza, Yasir and Babar are the better options. Unlike ODI's, Aus will have time to settle against Hafeez and will obliterate him because of his lack of turn.
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I second it.. Hafeez is good when batsmen try to score against him. In a test match you have ample time to work for your runs. He is no more danger in tests than say Ahmed Warne
 
Arsal_AK said:
No, it can't. The fifteen will be selected from those. If they wanted Sadaf, Shenwari both of them would have made the cut, the first time.
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Who said it can't be changed! What's the fun of having Babar azam In practice game and sami Aslam in 19 man squad. It's just a nothing of a list. Even Umar Gul after his 5fer may get a comeback.
 
Fastandfurious said:
If Pakistan decide to go with three spinners, then Raza, Yasir and Babar are the better options. Unlike ODI's, Aus will have time to settle against Hafeez and will obliterate him because of his lack of turn.
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He turns it more than most.

And no they won't. Hafeez is a very intelligent bowler and will be damn good against their lefties. See his bowling spells against Eng and then later in SA. I still think we could have won the second test if Misbah had given him the ball more often.Was turning it square in the last few over of the innings he got.


Third, how confident are you of Talha and Rahat getting more than a wicket combined in the match??
 
7 overs to go. Pakistan should target 320.

BTW, why do they not go with Rizwan for the backup wk spot? Adnan has a horrible batting record against top teams.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...re;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

Rizwan doesn't have the best record, but can at least turn out to be a good batsman if groomed well. Although his WK exploits do make him sound like another K akmal, I'd like to see how he does on the big stage
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/323389.html
 
Pete Rose said:
Well, you are rare breed of poster. Few want to even budge from their original point of view. Back on Shafiq, he has done better so far in every innings that he has played. It would be fanboyish of me to say it's all good and he is gonna be smashing it every innings, I expect a hiccup here or there. But I think he is hitting a rich vein of form and as you he needs to cash in right. Long term, he is the real deal. The best way for me to judge good players is to see how easily they rotate the strike against good bowling.
It was a HUUGE call for management to put him here, given the amount of abuse they would with his poor record. But so far he is proving their faith in him: a rare moment of applause for them, no matter how tempered.
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I support Pakistan and if Farhat came in and started playing well then I would even support him but Shafiq has looked really good. I hope he can finally show his talent and turn it into production.
 
Hafeez the bowler is criminally underrated on this forum. He is damn good in tests too, both at taking wickets esp the lefties and drying the runs.Ask cook and co.
 
Arsal_AK said:
And Rahat,Talha are??
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Talha is useless as seen from his performance in Lanka.
Rahat was below average in UAE last time around.
So they should pic Shinwari or anyone else outside the 19 member squad based on current domestic performance.
 
Saqib Yousuf Yatoo said:
Talha is useless as seen from his performance in Lanka.
Rahat was below average in UAE last time around.
So they should pic Shinwari or anyone else outside the 19 member squad based on current domestic performance.
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Man Shinwari is not ready yet. Playing test cricket is no joke. And Sadaf is really out of favor with the selectors. More chances of hell freezing over than him getting a game.

Anyway they named the squad for a reason, the final 15 will be picked from there.
 
Arsal_AK said:
We play three spinners and Adil as the seamer.Hafeez,Adil,Babar and Yasir should be the bowling attack provided the pitches are rank turners.
[MENTION=57355]pakistanigoneaussie[/MENTION] what do you think??
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Nah i think we should still go with two pacers, the pitch in both Dubai and Abu Dhabi almost always provide something for the seamers up front. Ours arent that great i admit, which is why i say again Bhatti would have been a better selection as he can bat and always has the ability to surprise with his pace. Having said that i dont think Rahat is someone we can just throw away just yet. dare i say it he has more 'tools' than any of our other test pacers at this stage. Hopefully he can be a Tool Prince and not another Tool Kit
 
Havoc said:
I believe nailing the team balance right makes a significant difference.
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Most deinfelty which is why im prepared to persist with people like Anwar ali. Unfortunately we are stuck with afridi till the world cup. I dont think we should play another spinner because of that.

Ideally i have Hammad Azam at 7 followed by afridi and three pacers one of which should either be ehsan or anwar
 
Arsal_AK said:
And Rahat,Talha are??
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Arsal_AK said:
Man Shinwari is not ready yet. Playing test cricket is no joke. And Sadaf is really out of favor with the selectors. More chances of hell freezing over than him getting a game.

Anyway they named the squad for a reason, the final 15 will be picked from there.
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I did still prefer fast bowler. You don't just waste the new ball. And UAE is unlike the subcontinent dust bowls. It have always helped the fast bowlers. Playing one fast bowler and 2 and a Half Spinner is not a good idea.
If I'm asked to choose between Rahat and Hafeez as a 4th bowling option, I did pick Rahat.
 
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