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Pakistan A v Australians | Tour Match | 17/10/2014 | Sharjah l Day 3

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Faulkner has always been a rubbish bowler and what a phainta this is.
 
What channel you guys are watching this on? Or yous just reading the commentary as I am.
 
Mamoon said:
Faulkner has always been a rubbish bowler and what a phainta this is.
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Lets hope they select him in the tests. If we survive Johnson and we should, I don't see the rest doing any good.

The only hurdles I see are Azhar and Misbah to some extent.
 
Domestic average is not everything but if a player is unable to perform in domestic he is likely to fail at the more difficult stage. Not all domestic performers are international material but none of the domestic failures are international material.
 
Warner stops a certain boundary..:(

Lyon to Haris Sohail, 1 run, late cut, superb dive and stop by little warner at point
 
Now these two will be selected down the line! then they will be asked to play responsibly etc. control their natural game and then we will have two more potential match winners turned Tuks Tuks.

Same problem in India with bowling - Line and length at the expense of Pace
 
Pleased with Babar today, my only concern is that he has only 15 FC matches under his belt with an average of 27. He seems in good touch though, what helps is that he's an opener, so could replace Masood who seems completely out of it.
 
88.6

Lyon to Babar Azam, :six, tossed up again, Azam temptep by the flight, lofts it straight above the sight screen!
 
What an ideal partnership for Pak A, i would pick harris for first test, hard luck to babar
 
Brilliant batting from these two. Now please get Haris in for Azhar.

Babar can make a claim for the opening spot too, if Hafeez isn't fit enough.Bowls some good off breaks.
 
Haris got a ton too. Fabulous stuff. Should get into the Test XI now inshaAllah, otherwise team management is nuts
 
Arsal_AK said:
Brilliant batting from these two. Now please get Haris in for Azhar.

Babar can make a claim for the opening spot too, if Hafeez isn't fit enough.Bowls some good off breaks.
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Haris should replace Azhar but Babar shouldn't make his Test debut before he establishes himself in ODIs/T20s.
 
Mamoon said:
Haris should replace Azhar but Babar shouldn't make his Test debut before he establishes himself in ODIs/T20s.
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I would debut him now to carry his form into the tests, he has confidence behind him. If Babar doesn't play, let Azhar open, Asad at 3, Haris at 6.
 
Aman said:
Who do Pakistan have to open instead of Masood? And please don't say Hafeez, he'll be a sitting duck against :mj
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Hafeez is only surviving because he can bowl decently else he is useless. There are better specialist batsman and all rounders like harris sohal, fawad alam, babar azam, imam ul haq, hammad azam etc who are way better than him.

The PCB keeps saying that there arent good players in domestic circuit by not giving talented players a chance. These are all lies which are being exposed now.

Now that harris and babar have scored centuries against the same bowling attack that will play the senior team we have to see who will score a century. Hafeez will be a sitting duck for siddle ( let alone johnson as he belongs to a different class).
 
Fastandfurious said:
I would debut him now to carry his form into the tests, he has confidence behind him. If Babar doesn't play, let Azhar open, Asad at 3, Haris at 6.
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Talking about Babar? It will take one bad game to shatter his confidence.

I really don't the logic behind selecting a batsman to make his debut in a format that isn't his best by any means. Makes no sense to me.

The order for Babar should be ODIs - T20s - Tests.
 
Mamoon said:
Haris should replace Azhar but Babar shouldn't make his Test debut before he establishes himself in ODIs/T20s.
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There is no golden rule that a batsman should establish himself in ODI's before making test debut dear mamoon. If a player is good enough he can start playing in any format of the game. If jokers like umar amin, Owais zia, imran farhat, kamran akmal, can be given chances then why shouldn't talented ones be given.
 
Arsal_AK said:
Lets hope they select him in the tests. If we survive Johnson and we should, I don't see the rest doing any good.

The only hurdles I see are Azhar and Misbah to some extent.
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Faulkner was no chance of playing in the tests in the first place.

Because he's mediocre
 
cricketsam said:
There is no golden rule that a batsman should establish himself in ODI's before making test debut dear mamoon. If a player is good enough he can start playing in any format of the game. If jokers like umar amin, Owais zia, imran farhat, kamran akmal, can be given chances then why shouldn't talented ones be given.
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There isn't but in my opinion, it is important to have a player debut in the format(s) that are his strength and from there he can establish himself into other formats.

If a batsman is naturally a Test batsman, he should establish himself in Tests before moving onto other formats/if ever.

If a batsman is naturally a LOI batsman, he should establish himself in LOIs before moving onto Tests/if ever.

This doesn't mean that Babar will be a failure in Tests now. In fact, he might do really well because he is tremendous prospect but it is too much of a risk and could hamper his development. We already have a reputation of not developing players properly.
 
Babar Azam should debut in NZ ODI series

One bad test atch and he'll be forgotten, I want him to get a complete chance in NZ ODIs
 
Zeshan547 said:
What an ideal partnership for Pak A, i would pick harris for first test, hard luck to babar
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Partiality shown even before they start their int'l career. Why not babar. He came in after haris sohail and made century before haris sohail. Gimme the reason why not babar azam why hard luck for him.
 
We need to follow the de Kock model with Babar. Will work for him perfectly.
 
Three batsmen from the A team have scored centuries and have clobbered the Australian bowling and made them look like club bowlers, now let's see which batsmen from senior side score century against this attack. If Azhar younis and misbah couldn't score century or a 50 above when they face the same bowlers in the tests then the senior brigade should be sent packing. Bye bye seniors.
 
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What the hell was Babar doing sitting out of the ODI team all this time? Need to fast track him in there asap after WC, possibly as an opener if Sarfraz gets found out in Aus/NZ.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Partiality shown even before they start their int'l career. Why not babar. He came in after haris sohail and made century before haris sohail. Gimme the reason why not babar azam why hard luck for him.
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Haris scored in both innings ....
he has better domestic stats .....
babar is still young and has time on his side .....
and he said he would pick him concludes it is his personal preference .....
 
Suleiman said:
What the hell was Babar doing sitting out of the ODI team all this time? Need to fast track him in there asap after WC, possibly as an opener if Sarfraz gets found out in Aus/NZ.
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Why after the WC??

Its not as if all our batsman are performing Babar can play anywhere in top 4, he should play all ODI games leading to the World cup
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Three batsmen from the A team have scored centuries and have clobbered the Australian bowling and made them look like club bowlers, now let's see which batsmen from senior side score century against this attack. If Azhar younis and misbah couldn't score century or a 50 above pack all of them home. Bye bye seniors.
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Harsh. Johnson will bowl more than six overs in the tests.
 
Good batting but let's not get ahead ourselves. I would've loved to to Sami Aslam play too but I guess we won't see him for a while yet.

Either way well batted Haris and Babar.
 
Mamoon said:
Talking about Babar? It will take one bad game to shatter his confidence.

I really don't the logic behind selecting a batsman to make his debut in a format that isn't his best by any means. Makes no sense to me.

The order for Babar should be ODIs - T20s - Tests.
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You should check babar's interview from pakpssion, may be search for it or if i find will post it here... He was asked the question why he avg so low in the FC only 27 but have avg more than 40s in ODIs and T20s.. He said he was injured during the FC season when he was on form but still could play only 15 matches which is much less than what I expect to play, it was a disappointing season that I could play all the matches.. And moreover he moved from lahore to islamabad team just because too many batsmen in lahore team which made them play him even at 9 so he said he decided to move from lahore to islamabad where im now playing in the top 3 ...

hope i have cleared ur conception of babar being a poor FC batsman and not suited for test cricket...he is only 20 now and he has a bright future ahead, havent seen a young fellow clobbering the aussies and made them look like club bowlers...
 
Some PPers getting carried away here, this is a warm up game and the intensity of the Aussie bowling will be alot different come the test match series,
 
babar and haris it was the right an left hand combination in at 4 and 5...great partnership which shows both of them have scored equally which means both have contibuted and not one partner was good and the other was giving company..
 
ask_analyse_act said:
You should check babar's interview from pakpssion, may be search for it or if i find will post it here... He was asked the question why he avg so low in the FC only 27 but have avg more than 40s in ODIs and T20s.. He said he was injured during the FC season when he was on form but still could play only 15 matches which is much less than what I expect to play, it was a disappointing season that I could play all the matches.. And moreover he moved from lahore to islamabad team just because too many batsmen in lahore team which made them play him even at 9 so he said he decided to move from lahore to islamabad where im now playing in the top 3 ...

hope i have cleared ur conception of babar being a poor FC batsman and not suited for test cricket...he is only 20 now and he has a bright future ahead, havent seen a young fellow clobbering the aussies and made them look like club bowlers...
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I know that but I don't base on my opinions on domestic stats. I say so from what I've of him with my own eyes.

He has all the credentials to succeed in Tests one day but at the moment, he is definitely a better fit for Limited Overs.
 
Two young guns proving their talent on the field...this is what Pak team needs for the future. Batsmen that are struggling better pull up or pull out and make way for these guys.
 
really happy for haris, big fan of the guy. Only if he can improve his fitness
 
great stuff from these two. Earlier I was talking about how people like Haris needs to hit big scores to be noticed and he has done that. lets see how things go from here. The aussies will come out blasting either way and the pressure of a test match is totally different. I hope these young guys don't get bogged down in the tuk tuk culture and express themselves.
 
tauseef_mahmood said:
Haris scored in both innings ....
he has better domestic stats .....
babar is still young and has time on his side .....
and he said he would pick him concludes it is his personal preference .....
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haris scored 43 (95) and babar 40(130), in first innings...go check the scorecard first... actually later was the best innings according to test standard as he has survived more balls than haris...now what u say.. both of them should be in...
 
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