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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

Both countries possess missiles capable of reaching any city, and that reality alone demands restraint. Should Pakistan escalate further? Absolutely not. It has already demonstrated its capability by bringing down Indian jets.

Those who understand Pakistan’s deterrent need no further proof. The rest, the noise, the bravado, the keyboard chest-thumping, that’s just theater for the media and teenagers trying to sound like generals online.

In truth, India was well aware of Pakistan’s capabilities. But trapped by the very domestic pressure it cultivated, the Indian government made a calculated choice, striking civilian targets while publicly blaming Pakistan’s military for Phalgham. That contradiction isn’t just dangerous, it’s deliberate.
Absolutely disagree.

Detterence is always like for like. The next time they will attack Lahore and Karachi, will we still on hands quietly?

A Pakistani must feel safe in Pakistan from Indian aggression. That safety was taken away and till India realizes Indians will in Indian cities face the same thing there is no deterrence.
 
23 minutes mission.

IAF managed to hit targets deep inside Pakistan, 150-170 kms farther from the international border(Bahawalpur, Murdike etc)

This is unprecedented.
 
Source - you ignored the Reuters article, are in denial and are calling everything fake news.
Reuters are quoting same Pakistani sources and not done any investigation themselves. Your defence minister is saying in CNN the only proof he has of Indian jets down are from social media posts. LMAO
 
Make me an admin? I have already declined that role 3 or 4 times over the past couple of years. You weren't even around in this world when I was setting up and managing forums for clients back in the early 2000s, so don't go there, munna.

As for those being civilians, someone from Pakistan shared images of the kids killed in that attack. But of course, everything looks fake to an andhbhakt like you who blindly trusts godi media every single day. :inti
By the way why do you have this itch of attacking individual posters, making insulting remarks etc than actually contributing with something meaningful.

Frustration from real life?
 
Source - trust me bro
Pakistanis who claim as martial race and for an army controlled country have serious illiteracy when it comes to these matters. I mean diplomacy etc I can understand they are poor but how can they lack common sense is beyond me.

Downing 6 jets would mean hordes of Indian planes entered Pakistani territory. Even let us say their strike rate is 100% meaning 6/6 Indian planes that is still a lot of planes.

Unless it is a chaotic world war situation or India actually wants to invade and occupy Pakistan why would we send so many planes . These are not bullets lol. The inventory even for a country like USA will be limited for fighter jets.

On top of that they themselves are denying that no Indian plane entered Pakistan airspace.

Forget all that the Pak defense ministers argument is “it’s all over social media” 🤣🤣🤣

You really can’t make this s up lol.
 
BBC also verified atleast 3. 2 are definitely from the Rafales. Can check on their main page.
 
By the way why do you have this itch of attacking individual posters, making insulting remarks etc than actually contributing with something meaningful.

Frustration from real life?

You also attack others. :inti

Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
 
Reuters are quoting same Pakistani sources and not done any investigation themselves. Your defence minister is saying in CNN the only proof he has of Indian jets down are from social media posts. LMAO
No, they are quoting government sources from Indian Kashmir. Read the article. Dude, you can't wish this away.
 
Pakistan should keep on smashing those Indian jets. Indians can deny but who cares about their denials? :inti

Pakistan go full on John Wick mode now. Proportional retaliation.
 
There is no detterence established. Our enemy came and attacked our cities deep inside our country leading to civilian deaths. The visuals of the attack will be played in years. While we downed their jets in defensive action.

Till India faces the same attack ie how Iran faced one from us, there is no deterrence. An Indian city must face the same attacks.

Otherwise what message are you sending as a military? Attack us if we shoot down your attack forced good if not oh well.
Hafiz Munir does not have the cajones. He can only act tough against PTI workers and Pakistanis
 
Pakistanis who claim as martial race and for an army controlled country have serious illiteracy when it comes to these matters. I mean diplomacy etc I can understand they are poor but how can they lack common sense is beyond me.

Downing 6 jets would mean hordes of Indian planes entered Pakistani territory. Even let us say their strike rate is 100% meaning 6/6 Indian planes that is still a lot of planes.

Unless it is a chaotic world war situation or India actually wants to invade and occupy Pakistan why would we send so many planes . These are not bullets lol. The inventory even for a country like USA will be limited for fighter jets.

On top of that they themselves are denying that no Indian plane entered Pakistan airspace.

Forget all that the Pak defense ministers argument is “it’s all over social media” 🤣🤣🤣

You really can’t make this s up lol.
This is what happened.

India attacked caught Pakistan off guard. Then they peddled those fake news of bringing down Indian jets to keep their awaam happy. It was not even an attack using aircrafts but using missiles from Indian soil. However miraculously they shot 5 Indian Rafaele jets from somewhere. When the evidence was asked from the defence minister, his response was it is all in social medial. It is comical but I don't mind if it is keeping the awaam happy. North Korea participated in FIFA world cup once and got knocked out early. However, the govt there peddled the news that North Korea won that world cup which the people believed in, became happy and hailed the leadership.
 
By the way, if posts on Pakpassion are of any indication, i am relieved. I thought Pakistanis would be furious over violation of the border, instead they seem quite happy on these downing of jets reports.
 
Wait what?? Is this the real umpire?? Or just some indian decided to buy to make a dupe acc and buy the tick mark???

Question is rhetorical.....

Indians are stereotypical walking memes...

Lmao - looks like his account has been hacked or some major patriotic Indian has taken over as his PR!
 
This is what happened.

India attacked caught Pakistan off guard. Then they peddled those fake news of bringing down Indian jets to keep their awaam happy. It was not even an attack using aircrafts but using missiles from Indian soil. However miraculously they shot 5 Indian Rafaele jets from somewhere. When the evidence was asked from the defence minister, his response was it is all in social medial. It is comical but I don't mind if it is keeping the awaam happy. North Korea participated in FIFA world cup once and got knocked out early. However, the govt there peddled the news that North Korea won that world cup which the people believed in, became happy and hailed the leadership.
They want to de-escalate. They give a narrative that we crushed India etc already you see people here are happy that Pakistan has responded 😁 They will try end the matter and maybe even back channel requests to open the taps again.
 
Only one model in Compaq? What an idiot, lol. And call your dad 'buddha', infact a 'badtameez budha' because he raised a chhapri like you.

You remind me of that uppercut guy, did you two attend the same school? Also, I never claimed managing forums was a big deal. You accused me of licking their boots to become an admin, and I proved you wrong. I used to set up and manage forums for clients so clearly, it wasn't a big deal to me. You just got caught in your own web. Now shoo. :inti

TBF - Bhaag Viru Bhaag has been one of the balanced and fair Indians to post on PP…
 
BBC had ex Indian commissioner who said retaliation is expected and Pakistan has been given encouragement by friendly nations.
 
Great performance by PAF overnight. I was doubtful about the news, but real money doesn't lie. Chengdu aviation shares are up 20% on the day. Professional investors do not throw their money at rumours. Regardless of what planes were shot down, it's obvious at least three Indian jets were knocked out of the sky.

even india said "all our pilots are accounted for", which is a silly thing to say unless all your jets are not accounted for. PF again showing its superiority to IAF. obviously india cannot admit to confirming which planes were shot, it would be a massive PR and diplomatic disaster for the countries which sell them equipment.
 
Its hilarious that some Indians are denying even the authentic/mainstream media.
No authetic media has claimed it with any evidence. They are quoting Pakistani sources which has been debunked multiple times. Had there been credible evidence, you defence minister will not be saying in national tv (CNN) that his source is social media.

Also, it was a missile attack launched from Indian soil and jets were not used. So what exactly has PAF brought down? Surveillance jets?
 
Bharti Jahaj gir gye koi maane ya na maane, From Bulgaria to NY to BBC everybody reporting on it
 
Bro who is attacking you? let me know. I want to know who is giving you so much attention and engaging with you . That person needs to be attacked for picking on challenged person . I Got your back 👍
Doctor Sahib, welcome back. Have you washed your hands?
 
Great performance by PAF overnight. I was doubtful about the news, but real money doesn't lie. Chengdu aviation shares are up 20% on the day. Professional investors do not throw their money at rumours. Regardless of what planes were shot down, it's obvious at least three Indian jets were knocked out of the sky.

even india said "all our pilots are accounted for", which is a silly thing to say unless all your jets are not accounted for. PF again showing its superiority to IAF. obviously india cannot admit to confirming which planes were shot, it would be a massive PR and diplomatic disaster for the countries which sell them equipment.

Indeed.

Pakistan targeted Indian military assets while Indians targeted civilians.

Pakistan achieved military and moral victories.
 
BBC also verified atleast 3. 2 are definitely from the Rafales. Can check on their main page.

Its accepted by mainstream foreign media now. However Indians are working around the clock on twitter and forums to use random posts to attempt to prove otherwise.

33 odd French jets remain for india . If air battles continue they'll be out before the ipl ends .

So far ...India attacks mosques , residential areas, killing women and children . Pakistan takes out jets , hq and attacks multiple bases over loc .

Pakistanis everywhere should be happy the pak forces didnt attack to kill civilians, most are . On the other hand Indians are rejoicing knowing kids died .

nobody is perfect but there is only one cowardly evil aggressor here . Sadly majority in India has little regard for self respect and dignity. Such people can never really win any substantial conflict.
 
No authetic media has claimed it with any evidence. They are quoting Pakistani sources which has been debunked multiple times. Had there been credible evidence, you defence minister will not be saying in national tv (CNN) that his source is social media.

Also, it was a missile attack launched from Indian soil and jets were not used. So what exactly has PAF brought down? Surveillance jets?
Again, wishing something into existence won't do so. The sources are from Indian Kashmir government as per Reuters article. You can keep repeating your narrative till end of time, it won't make it true.
 
Its accepted by mainstream foreign media now. However Indians are working around the clock on twitter and forums to use random posts to attempt to prove otherwise.

33 odd French jets remain for india . If air battles continue they'll be out before the ipl ends .

So far ...India attacks mosques , residential areas, killing women and children . Pakistan takes out jets , hq and attacks multiple bases over loc .

Pakistanis everywhere should be happy the pak forces didnt attack to kill civilians, most are . On the other hand Indians are rejoicing knowing kids died .

nobody is perfect but there is only one cowardly evil aggressor here . Sadly majority in India has little regard for self respect and dignity. Such people can never really win any substantial conflict.
Meanwhile foreign media


:kp
 
also, just reading news that india said they killed 10 family members of masood azhar, so they are admitting to the extra judicial assassination of ten people, and they didnt even get the target they were aiming for. what an epic blunder of intelligence and execution. india continues to shoot itself in the foot on the PR and diplomatic stage.
 
also, just reading news that india said they killed 10 family members of masood azhar, so they are admitting to the extra judicial assassination of ten people, and they didnt even get the target they were aiming for. what an epic blunder of intelligence and execution. india continues to shoot itself in the foot on the PR and diplomatic stage.

India is digging a big hole for themselves.

A hole they may not get out of.
 
Pakistanis who claim as martial race and for an army controlled country have serious illiteracy when it comes to these matters. I mean diplomacy etc I can understand they are poor but how can they lack common sense is beyond me.

Downing 6 jets would mean hordes of Indian planes entered Pakistani territory. Even let us say their strike rate is 100% meaning 6/6 Indian planes that is still a lot of planes.

Unless it is a chaotic world war situation or India actually wants to invade and occupy Pakistan why would we send so many planes . These are not bullets lol. The inventory even for a country like USA will be limited for fighter jets.

On top of that they themselves are denying that no Indian plane entered Pakistan airspace.

Forget all that the Pak defense ministers argument is “it’s all over social media” 🤣🤣🤣

You really can’t make this s up lol.
And this guy is talking about military literacy. Ever heard of BVR capabilities ?
 
Hey there buddy, did you finally figure out what the meaning of “hygiene” is 😁
It’s reassuring that Indian doctors still understand the importance of hygiene and continue administering polio vaccines, because without them, a worrying number might’ve ended up like certain jets, dropping out of the sky without ever putting up a fight.
 
The French government officials seem to be totally livid regarding the loss of their Rafale planes.

They are totally shifting the blame on the incompetence of the Indian pilots as their brand is taking a hammering 🤭
I believe in the future, most jet manufacturer will stop selling jets to India, imagine if it were to actually happen for this very reason. hahah
 
I know bro. I had one when i was in college .

I was talking about a basic one lol. Bhaggu bina mtlab chidh gaya.
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The French government officials seem to be totally livid regarding the loss of their Rafale planes.

They are totally shifting the blame on the incompetence of the Indian pilots as their brand is taking a hammering 🤭

This is what happens when bhakts try to fly complex jets.

They should stick to whining about Mughals and playing with cows.

:qdkcheeky
 
In that case Pakistan should have probably nuked India by now considering the instability they hav fomented in Balochistan.
If Pakistan nukes India, half of Asia will be gone including Pakistan. Nuclear threats are hollow to say the least.

Only thing Pak can do is to send terrorists to attack Indian civilians. Previously we used to keep quiet but now the gunda type govt we have hits back hard.

That is the difference.
 
I believe in the future, most jet manufacturer will stop selling jets to India, imagine if it were to actually happen for this very reason. hahah
Worry about your Chinese maal missile defense systems first 🤣 india gave you 2-3 weeks heads up and sent missiles and still your army had no clue. You can be smug and believe what you beleive but we all know how this will end 👍
 
And this guy is talking about military literacy. Ever heard of BVR capabilities ?
In another thread, he was breaking down the pathophysiology of the polio virus like a seasoned physician, full lecture on hygiene and all. Truly the Johnny Sins of this forum, one day he’s a doctor, the next he’s Major General Arya, leading the charge from a keyboard near you.
 
Worry about your Chinese maal missile defense systems first 🤣 india gave you 2-3 weeks heads up and sent missiles and still your army had no clue. You can be smug and believe what you beleive but we all know how this will end 👍
Pakistan has no capability of stopping missiles after it is launched, India has S4.

Maj General Arya, control.
 
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