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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

Buzzinga said:
Must be someone else. He was Pakistani Australian too. Thats why i was wondering, was it you!!
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Their more then 100,000 Pakistani's living in Aus? And I'm not even the only aussie resident on this forumn? Kron and varun are from Australia as well?

I'm not the only one. 🤣🤣.
 
Massive - High-level meeting underway between Defence Minister Rajnath Singh, Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) General Anil Chauhan, Army Chief General Upendra Dwivedi, Navy Chief Admiral Dinesh Tripathi, and Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal AP Singh.

A cordinate attack by Army , Airforce and Navy 👁️
 
Rajdeep said:
Posters here are missing the point. India and Indians are most peace loving people on planet green earth. We are never aggressors, let alone wanting a war. However, we are victims of terrorism for last 30 years and now patience have run out. It is time for iss paar ya uss paar...no other option. We cant let Pak to continue their terrorist attacks after every other year

1999 Kandahar, 2001 Parliament, 2008 Mumbai, 2016 Uri, 2017 Pathankot, 2019 Pulwama....no more

#NoMoreToPakTerrorism
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Oh yar , We should stop this BS.

We will show them nobody can be more violent than us.

These are descendants of Bhagwan Parashuram
 
Rajdeep said:
Posters here are missing the point. India and Indians are most peace loving people on planet green earth. We are never aggressors, let alone wanting a war. However, we are victims of terrorism for last 30 years and now patience have run out. It is time for iss paar ya uss paar...no other option. We cant let Pak to continue their terrorist attacks after every other year

1999 Kandahar, 2001 Parliament, 2008 Mumbai, 2016 Uri, 2017 Pathankot, 2019 Pulwama....no more

#NoMoreToPakTerrorism
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Lol I just watched 30 of your boys burnt alive on the border. Embarrassing for India.
 
Rajdeep said:
Pak F16 has been destroyed by S 400 interceptors from Russia.

Jai Bharat, Hail Putin

:love: :love:
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Is that lie a coping mechanism for Indians for all the news that are coming as confirmation for Pakistan destroying multiple indian jets? :) We told you we will humiliate you at will, you asked for it now see world is already posting about your destroyed jets. Losing Rafaels is a huge embarrassment, but you Indians are used to it so it's okay
 
Rajdeep said:
Posters here are missing the point. India and Indians are most peace loving people on planet green earth. We are never aggressors, let alone wanting a war. However, we are victims of terrorism for last 30 years and now patience have run out. It is time for iss paar ya uss paar...no other option. We cant let Pak to continue their terrorist attacks after every other year

1999 Kandahar, 2001 Parliament, 2008 Mumbai, 2016 Uri, 2017 Pathankot, 2019 Pulwama....no more

#NoMoreToPakTerrorism
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^^ Idk man, I don't see it.
 
Today India’s S-400 defence system is MOTM…. Pakistan’s 8 missiles were intercepted and destroyed.

This is why India alliance were opposing to S-400 defence system deal
 
IAJ said:
Honestly really really stupid move by India to start this war. If this escalates they will regret as they were progressing as a country.
Now Shankar is calling Rubio. Doval is running to Modi.
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No regrets.

The whole nation is firmly behind PM Modi on this. It’s our unanimous decision
 
Kriketer said:
Is that lie a coping mechanism for Indians for all the news that are coming as confirmation for Pakistan destroying multiple indian jets? :) We told you we will humiliate you at will, you asked for it now see world is already posting about your destroyed jets. Losing Rafaels is a huge embarrassment, but you Indians are used to it so it's okay
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Pak is unable to use f16 in offensive ops due to agreement with US. It's highly unlikely that they were used.
 
Rajdeep said:
Posters here are missing the point. India and Indians are most peace loving people on planet green earth. We are never aggressors, let alone wanting a war. However, we are victims of terrorism for last 30 years and now patience have run out. It is time for iss paar ya uss paar...no other option. We cant let Pak to continue their terrorist attacks after every other year

1999 Kandahar, 2001 Parliament, 2008 Mumbai, 2016 Uri, 2017 Pathankot, 2019 Pulwama....no more

#NoMoreToPakTerrorism
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🤣🤣

As usual, India is innocent, India does no wrong, India is 4 year old that everyone picks on. Terrorism done in US, Canada, Sri Lanka, and Pakistan is all imaginary.
 
IAJ said:
You are lying right in front of many other indian posters here who are against this.
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Being Anti War and Standing firmly with the Nation to go to war for the nation’s interest are two different things

Wars aren’t good

But you cannot hide from a war when it’s standing at the door.

A Sanatani never backs off from war. This is yudh aahuti. This is Dharma calling
 
sweep_shot said:
This is a defensive war for Pakistan. India is the aggressor.

If Pakistan can't use F16 for this, what's the use of it? :inti
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I think they can use it if Indian fighters enter Pak airspace but can't enter India with it.

However the PAF hit Indian held Kashmir in 2019 using f16 and the Americans didn't do anything so they may have used again
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I think they can use it if Indian fighters enter Pak airspace but can't enter India with it.

However the PAF hit Indian held Kashmir in 2019 using f16 and the Americans didn't do anything so they may have used again
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Technically Kashmir is disputed territory
 
Imagine life in Jammu. (1) You get droned (2) By your own military (3) Then need to show forced nationalism to the same military with straight face (4) Else will be eliminated anyway by the insurgents/insiders (5) Which are a result of revoking the special status and infiltrating the once beautiful land with hindu loongis.
 
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Indian terrorists on the loose day 2. A terrorist organization at a national level with an entire army and country and air force going crazy on civilians of Pakistan.

They think they are heroes, but instead of taking payback from instigators they are butchering innocent civilians thinking they are peace makers.

Not one drop of blood will go unanswered. If this seems like a time to you Indians to make memes and celebrate, then your heart truly is dead and numb. If you think killing innocents is a part of war and this is “payback” for what the cowards of Pahalgam did to you , you have another thing coming.

The tide of battle can turn very fast. Just ask Firawn, Caesar, Abu Lahab, Abraha, etc.
 
The Pakistani military has denied that the country launched any drones towards Jammu in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Two military officials have told Al Jazeera that the accusation by India is yet again “a continuity of their lies,” referring to the claims made by the Indian government earlier in the day, which said Pakistan launched drone attacks on 15 cities.

“Pakistan did not launch any attack last night,” or today, a senior military source said on condition of anonymity, as he was not authorised to speak to the media.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
Mockingbird said:
You guys don’t get

You guys don’t get to play victims, not after your guys shot down innocent tourists after dropping their pants and asking their religion. Nobody believes that false attack story your guys purported.
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Yes, India never does any wrong, never supports terrorism anywhere outside India, is a 4 year old innocent kid that everyone picks on. Is that right? No one even buys this narrative anymore.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
The Pakistani military has denied that the country launched any drones towards Jammu in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Two military officials have told Al Jazeera that the accusation by India is yet again “a continuity of their lies,” referring to the claims made by the Indian government earlier in the day, which said Pakistan launched drone attacks on 15 cities.

“Pakistan did not launch any attack last night,” or today, a senior military source said on condition of anonymity, as he was not authorised to speak to the media.

Source: Al Jazeera
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Just saw this too - will trust Al Jazeera
 
The Bald Eagle said:
The Pakistani military has denied that the country launched any drones towards Jammu in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Two military officials have told Al Jazeera that the accusation by India is yet again “a continuity of their lies,” referring to the claims made by the Indian government earlier in the day, which said Pakistan launched drone attacks on 15 cities.

“Pakistan did not launch any attack last night,” or today, a senior military source said on condition of anonymity, as he was not authorised to speak to the media.

Source: Al Jazeera
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Brother @Bhaag Viru Bhaag already warned us of this

Pakistan will use the Indian denial narrative now to their benefit.
 
followed said:
All the people here are chilling in their homes but here we are suffering.
This war was unnecessary. India made a huge mistake now everyone will pay for it.
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Stay strong brother. These soulless scum make memes and post twitter screenshots as if this is a cricket match thread… that’s how little they care about human life. Even if Pahalgam didn’t happen, their reaction would be the same.

May Allah keep you safe. Keep us updated. Know that whether Pak army is capable or incapable of making sure civilians like you are safe, Allah SWT will never forsake you.
 
emranabbas said:
This is what pti's do resort to abuse

in the other thread along with your friend @Bewal Express you were crying your eyes out Pakistan are not going on a full on war if imran khan was incharge this and that would happened by now etc...

It's easy for you guys to say living in your homes in englaaaaand ask people like @followed
How it effects their lives

Anyways sit in your England home and enjoy the casualties
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You need stop this crap. You guys are led by donkeys that can't utter a word. The PK people are crying for leadership and we have NS and his daughter that cant utter a word..why can't they support PK. PK should have responded as soon as the 1st attack happened.
 
emranabbas said:
This is what pti's do resort to abuse

in the other thread along with your friend @Bewal Express you were crying your eyes out Pakistan are not going on a full on war if imran khan was incharge this and that would happened by now etc...

It's easy for you guys to say living in your homes in englaaaaand ask people like @followed
How it effects their lives

Anyways sit in your England home and enjoy the casualties
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I have seen the kind of language you have used on this forum. Anyways, I take back my 'chawal' comment.

You don't know where I am sitting at and no one was crying. I only responded to your pathetic comment about people of KPK and Baluchistan. You lot are not redeemable.
 
I don't understand why some people are getting so happy and excited.

If their families were directly under danger of being attacked, I wonder if they'd be so excited for this war. Or if they were sent to the border to fight for the country.

At the end of the day, our soldiers and the civilians who lose their lives will be nothing but a statistic for them. They won't care in the least for all of the lives that are lost forever as a result of a war. They will never see their faces or know their names, so for them they don't even exist.
 
Greenstorm said:
I have seen the kind of language you have used on this forum. Anyways, I take back my 'chawal' comment.

You don't know where I am sitting at and no one was crying. I only responded to your pathetic comment about people of KPK and Baluchistan. You lot are not redeemable.
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These losers are always attacking our own minorities, whilst their own leaders have all their wealth outside PK and who can't even mention Modis name.
 
Breaking - India is now attacking Lahore & Sialkot. Also some attacks in Islamabad.

:kp
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
I don't understand why some people are getting so happy and excited.

If their families were directly under danger of being attacked, I wonder if they'd be so excited for this war. Or if they were sent to the border to fight for the country.

At the end of the day, our soldiers and the civilians who lose their lives will be nothing but a statistic for them. They won't care in the least for all of the lives that are lost forever as a result of a war. They will never see their faces or know their names, so for them they don't even exist.
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Not true. Just India needs to pay now. We didn't want this but you left us with no option.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
I don't understand why some people are getting so happy and excited.

If their families were directly under danger of being attacked, I wonder if they'd be so excited for this war. Or if they were sent to the border to fight for the country.

At the end of the day, our soldiers and the civilians who lose their lives will be nothing but a statistic for them. They won't care in the least for all of the lives that are lost forever as a result of a war. They will never see their faces or know their names, so for them they don't even exist.
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Exactly. It’s pathetic…
 
Rana said:
Brother @Bhaag Viru Bhaag already warned us of this

Pakistan will use the Indian denial narrative now to their benefit.
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Yes, only the locals there will be able to share the real story with their grandchildren, no one in India will believe it anymore, as most are influenced by Godi media.

And just look at how those two disappeared after the IPL match was abandoned. Many in India celebrated when a PSL match was called off, but now the same thing has happened here.

This conflict will be unlike past wars, more chaotic because some lockdown kids( :kp ) are running around with AKPottySevens hanging in their diapers. :inti
 
Theanonymousone said:
That Hafiz is a globally designated terrorist. While I don't completely deny the possibility of RAW supporting BLA, do you see Indian army posing with globally designated terrorists?

Its not like India is doing terrorist activities from Indian soil. You can make your house clean and claim innocence right? How long has this terror funding from Pak army has to go on?
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Look I can safely say most Pakistanis are sick of its soil being used as a chessboard for the generals' games. While most support the cause of Kashmiri freedom, they have little sympathy for the likes of Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar.

However Indians are naive to insist Pakistan must simply hand these people over at the behest of a hardline Hindu nationalist government without a quid pro quo. Most Pakistanis are not delusional - we're perfectly aware India has a larger military and more stable economy. India has the advantage in a conventional war. Therefore Pakistan calculated it needs all possible points of leverage and these unsavoury characters are the bargaining chips regardless of how much it isolates us internationally.

I cannot speak for the military leadership. However I find it hard to imagine Pakistan wouldn't seriously consider an Indian offer consisting of:

- An end to all sponsorship of proxy groups in Kashmir and Balochistan.
- A return to the Musharraf-Singh four point agenda on Kashmir involving a) establishing the LOC as the international border but not a hard border with freedom of movement a la Northern Ireland-Republic of Ireland; b) phased withdrawal of all troops; c) enabling all Kashmiris to attain their full political and economic rights with freedom of religion and no forced demographic change; d) a joint supervision mechanism involving India, Pakistan and Kashmir.

From there relations could gradually improve with greater trading relations and more people-to-people contact.

Loudly declaring an issue is resolved doesn't make it so. Like Trump and Netanyahu who've made unsubstantiated declarations of victory into an artform, Modi's repealing of Article 370 wasn't the end of the Kashmir conflict. Unlike India's other separatist conflicts which are indeed internal matters, Kashmir is internationally defined as a disputed territory and Pakistan remains a party to the conflict.

Pakistanis accept our state has miscalculated on many occasions. However Indians must also accept its mistakes. Of all Prime Ministers since 1947, arguably Modi was the best placed to end the Pakistan-India conflict. It's far easier for Governments of the Right to make peace than Governments of the Left.

He started well inviting Nawaz to his inauguration. However he screwed up massively with his sudden Christmas 2015 visit, designed more for PR than actual diplomacy. A cursory glance at Pakistan's politics would've shown the civilian and military government weren't aligned. Nawaz's relationship with the military was worsening by the day (and was turfed out 18 months later). A few days later Pathankot happened, Modi got slapped by his hardliners and the window of opportunity for dialogue ended for the following decade.

Imagine if Modi Govt actually worked the backchannels over several months, identified mutual red lines and established a framework for negotiations before such a visit. It would've greatly increased the chances for success however remote. But that's the problem with populists - PR takes priority over actual work and unfortunately the conflict has since claimed more lives.
 
Greenstorm said:
I have seen the kind of language you have used on this forum. Anyways, I take back my 'chawal' comment.

You don't know where I am sitting at and no one was crying. I only responded to your pathetic comment about people of KPK and Baluchistan. You lot are not redeemable.
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I have with people who I have on going issued with as they use it towards me but you don't need to get your leg in it.

Again with that conversation if you don't understand it and what the other guy was referring to you don't need to butt your self in
 
From Sadanand Dhume on Twitter:

In the West we’re deeply conditioned to think of India and Pakistan as near-peer rivals, but this disguises the chasm that has opened up between the two countries thanks to Pakistan’s persistent mismanagement of its economy. India has about 6X Pakistan’s population, but India’s GDP is about 11X as large as Pakistan’s and the gap widens each year.

In a sense, India is attempting the difficult task of aligning Pakistan’s self-image with its economic reality. New Delhi is trying to impress upon Pakistan—or specifically upon the generals in Rawalpindi—the sheer lunacy of constantly poking a much larger neighbor in the eye. Most countries around the world instinctively know not to do this, but Pakistan is run by an army that has a hard time seeing through the fog of a supremacist ideology that views Pakistan in messianic religious terms.

Here’s a recent quote from a speech by army chief Gen. Asim Munir: “Till date, there have been only two states which have been built on the foundation of the Kalma… first was the Riyasat-e-Tayyaba (or Riyasat-e-Medina, the first Islamic state established by the Prophet)… and the second, which Allah built 1,300 years later, is your country (Pakistan).”

Will India succeed in making Pakistan view itself through the prism of economic reality rather than messianic zeal? Color me skeptical. Pakistan isn’t the only country to suffer from self-delusion. India too has its own brand of “vishwaguru” (teacher to the world) hubris. For Pakistan to aspire to be a normal country, like say Thailand or Uruguay or Indonesia, would require a wholesale reimagining of the country. (@husainhaqqani has written an excellent book on this.)

This is not possible as long as the army is in charge, and it’s certainly not possible as long as Munir is in charge of the army. At its heart, the mismatch between how Indians sees Pakistan (bankrupt nation constantly before the IMF with a begging bowl) and how Pakistan’s generals see their country (“the fort of Islam”) will continue to fuel conflict.

Twenty-five years ago, when the average Pakistani was richer than the average Indian, the Indian public was more willing to tolerate terrorism emanating from Pakistan. That willingness has evaporated. Pakistan cannot rely on India using a familiar playbook because that playbook no longer exists.
 
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