Mr.Q
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Firstly there's no love in Pakistan bar a few nutters for these Hafiz Saeeds and Masood Azhars. However do you seriously believe Pakistani state would meekly hand them over without any quid pro quo at the behest of a hardline Hindu nationalist government ?
Most Pakistanis accept they cannot win a conventional war with India. We cannot match your military and economic capacity over the long-run. Therefore Pakistan must maximise its points of leverage.
I cannot speak for Pakistani state but it's hard to believe they wouldn't entertain a return to dialogue on basis of Musharraf-Singh four point plan on Kashmir - turning LOC into a soft IB like Ireland, phased demilitarisation, no forced demographic change, and both countries ending support for proxies in Kashmir and Balochistan.
Please don't mention Kargil (started by an egomaniac general long dead) or Modi's 2015 visit which was all PR with no groundwork or preparation (which would've shown Nawaz as a lame duck with a nonexistent relationship with his military).
India's unsubstantiated declarations of victory (as we heard after repeal of Article 370) or screaming "INTERNAL ISSUE" doesn't end a conflict and makes a Pahalgam inevitable. Sit down and resolve this once and for all.
Well, there are a few issues.
1. The Hindu nationalist or whatever government came to power in 2014. What was Pakistan’s stand before that? India suffered even worse terrorist attacks back then. Bomb blasts were routine incidents in major Indian cities.
2. You can’t negotiate with a country using terrorists. India will never accept it.
3. Pakistan wants any discussion to start with Kashmir. India does not. All the points you mentioned like a permeable border etc will happen when two countries are on friendly terms. India doesn’t entertain any direct discussion on Kashmir because it sees that as an interference in its internal matter. It’s like approaching a girl with a honeymoon itinerary.
4. Things have reached a stage where India doesn’t care. The default policy now is to accept that Pakistan will be an eternal enemy and avoid running into them.
5. You are seriously underestimating the complications involved. The terror networks, their funding, the army’s existence and the biggest factor of them all, the religious element are all problems. It can’t be shut down in one day or even a year. When the Pakistani minister made that statement to Sky News about being forced to do the dirty job, he wasn’t kidding. Pakistan is indeed a victim of religious extremism in the sense that knowingly or unknowingly it created a Frankenstein’s monster it can’t control.