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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

This is purely emotional and biased take from you for now. We need to know for real what’s going on. We have to get to the bottom of this because this is dangerous territory now for all of us including your and my families
Of course I am biased. My country has been hit by India on the basis of nonsense with no evidence. I am not claiming to be unbiased.

But this is the only explanation.
Pak army were heroes. They didn't need to do anything.
 
Indian public weren't happy with ceasefire.

In Pakistan it was seen as a victory.

No reason for Pakistan to breach. In our eyes India had been humbled.
Don't worry. Some international journalists in and around Kashmir will shortly update who breached it. This time it will be a face loss and everything loss.
 
Of course I am biased. My country has been hit by India on the basis of nonsense with no evidence. I am not claiming to be unbiased.

But this is the only explanation.
Pak army were heroes. They didn't need to do anything.

This is not the only explanation.
We have to get to the bottom of this with an open mind. Whoever has backtracked has done a very very bad thing here be it Bharat or Pakistan
 
Pak army has revolted against the govt. India should use this.
This may have been the case in the past but this time Pak Army is the government. These chachus are just the front face. They are acting in unison. There is no need to revolt.
 
The damage was thought only to be to runways and base infrastructure of 3 PAK airbases. Perhaps PAK suffered more damage than they let on and now looking for retribution and hence the ceasefire violation
 
Lol coming a from a terrorist country. Btw India violates you over and over . You delusional people still believe you won the 1971 war.
Thanks for your admission of repeated violations.

As I said it's likely India broke the ceasefire. The public is on the same page as the evil army.
 
Thanks for your admission of repeated violations.

As I said it's likely India broke the ceasefire. The public is on the same page as the evil army.
Their is a reason why ppl are only talking about Amis Munir and not Shabaz sheriff. It's because you are under military rule.
 
Apart from this being terrible for our countries this is also a slap on the face of Donald Trump who tried to show to the whole world he successfully brokered this ceasefire. He will be extremely pissed about this and i think whoever has broken this ceasefire is now going to hear it from him knowing his personality. I think we will get to know very soon who did it. I don’t think Trump is going to keep it private. He will take it as an insult.
 
Their is a reason why ppl are only talking about Amis Munir and not Shabaz sheriff. It's because you are under military rule.
You haven't had a eureka moment. The whole country has known it for a while lol we have been talking about on PP for months.

Most Pakistanis don't care. Government is government whether civil or khaki.
 
Well, there are a few issues.

1. The Hindu nationalist or whatever government came to power in 2014. What was Pakistan’s stand before that? India suffered even worse terrorist attacks back then. Bomb blasts were routine incidents in major Indian cities.

2. You can’t negotiate with a country using terrorists. India will never accept it.

3. Pakistan wants any discussion to start with Kashmir. India does not. All the points you mentioned like a permeable border etc will happen when two countries are on friendly terms. India doesn’t entertain any direct discussion on Kashmir because it sees that as an interference in its internal matter. It’s like approaching a girl with a honeymoon itinerary.

4. Things have reached a stage where India doesn’t care. The default policy now is to accept that Pakistan will be an eternal enemy and avoid running into them.

5. You are seriously underestimating the complications involved. The terror networks, their funding, the army’s existence and the biggest factor of them all, the religious element are all problems. It can’t be shut down in one day or even a year. When the Pakistani minister made that statement to Sky News about being forced to do the dirty job, he wasn’t kidding. Pakistan is indeed a victim of religious extremism in the sense that knowingly or unknowingly it created a Frankenstein’s monster it can’t control.
I want to answer your points from the perspective of an Indian who is more interested in fixing out, much more significant existential problems faced by the country than our belligerent neighbor.
  1. I do not have the statistics, so i refer you to the wikipedia page here As would be evident, there was a surge in violence from 2005-2008: fewer attacks but much more deadly attacks. Since then, the number of attacks have increased, but their intensity has decreased. Thus your statement that the attacks were routine is inaccurate and the decrease in the number of attacks occurred after 2008 not 2014. Why? that requires a subject matter expert, which i am not, and nor are you, so dont bother opining. maybe include a reference to someone who studies this subject extensively.
  2. That is not how negotiations work. You negotiate or rather use diplomacy with people who are opposed or antagonistic to you. you dont need to negotiate with allies, you have a dialogue with them. you negotiate with those whose self interest differ from yours. For instance, one negotiation could be, hey, if you can tamp down on the rhetoric in the POK and dont look the other way when it comes to training grounds, we will reduce cross border shelling and reopening train routes.
  3. Not true. Not true for either countries. Pakistan wants what India wants, prosperity and peace. However, for Pakistan that cannot come without appeasing the elements that want an independent kashmir and India is not willing to conced any territory.
  4. No, India does care, but India recognizes that they have more allies at the global stage than Pakistan. with the end of the American led mission in Afghanistan, Pakistan is now a pariah on the global stage and India is utilizing that to their advantage by not coming to the discussion table. India's perspective is, we are in no urgent hurry when our stock is up, and we have a vibrant economy. Think of it as a siege. A diplomatic and economic siege, exhaust your opponent and then come to the negotiating table, if so required. It has worked to the advantage of numerous nations in the past.
  5. On this we agree. Pakistan is also a victim here. The entire infrastructure of support for extremist elements has reached a point of inflection where it now operates as a shadow, parallel government that cannot simply be turned off with the flick of a switch. My proposal would be:
    1. Significantly increase access to English medium education in Pakistan. Focus on Mathematics and Science.
    2. Prioritize the education of girls.
    3. Eliminate islamic laws and customs from the judicial system.
    4. Implore direct foreign investment into economic generators in Pakistan.
 
Apart from this being terrible for our countries this is also a slap on the face of Donald Trump who tried to show to the whole world he successfully brokered this ceasefire. He will be extremely pissed about this and i think whoever has broken this ceasefire is now going to hear it from him knowing his personality. I think we will get to know very soon who did it. I don’t think Trump is going to keep it private. He will take it as an insult.
Putin did same thing to Trump as Modi has done here. Fired drones straight after alleged ceasefire. Nothing really happened. Trump moved on.
 
Disturbing news of beheading of Two soldiers by the infiltrated Jihadis at Nagrota airbase . Asim Munir using ceasefire agreed by Modi as weakness to inflict damage. Modi is bloody coward if he doesn't respond to this.
 
Disturbing news of beheading of Two soldiers by the infiltrated Jihadis at Nagrota airbase . Asim Munir using ceasefire agreed by Modi as weakness to inflict damage. Modi is bloody coward if he doesn't respond to this.
Lots of unverified news. This news was made before at the start of the war but turned out false.

Hope it's false again
 
Disturbing news of beheading of Two soldiers by the infiltrated Jihadis at Nagrota airbase . Asim Munir using ceasefire agreed by Modi as weakness to inflict damage. Modi is bloody coward if he doesn't respond to this.
Both are now fine. Nothing to worry about it.
 
Lets hope so brother. Both side should hold on to commitments. If ceasefire is agreed then follow it to the spirit.
Indian media outlets have started to delete this horrible story about the beheadings. I am hoping it was fake news and they are notlw retracting.

Journalists should really think 100 times before tweeting such serious things.
 
Missed you brother. I was afraid of bad news. Glad you are back safe and sound.
I checked many international media. The first mention of ceasefire violation is reported from jammu and Srinagar in all of them. You rightfully said that only international media news can be trusted before. Hope you do the same now.
 
Is everything normal now or China doesn't want Trump to steal credit in its backyard.
 
I checked many international media. The first mention of ceasefire violation is reported from jammu and Srinagar in all of them. You rightfully said that only international media news can be trusted before. Hope you do the same now.
Situation is fluid. Will need to reassess as news comes in more and when PM addresses the nation. It takes some time for complete picture.
 
Religious extremist is your prime minister.
Well since my point clearly flew over your head, let’s look at the UN designated terrorist groups operating from Pakistan. Al Qaeda, LeT, JeM, TTP and the Haqqani network. UN designated terrorist groups operating from India: None.
 
PM Shehbaz thanks Trump’s ‘leadership, proactive role’ in securing full, immediate ceasefire

“India has consistently maintained a firm and uncompromising stance against terrorism in all its forms and manifestations. It will continue to do so,” he added.

India’s Foreign Secretary Shri Vikram Misri said a ceasefire was established between the two neighbours at 5pm IST (4:30pm PKT), adding during a press briefing that the military operations chiefs of both nations agreed “that both sides would stop all firing and military action on land, air and sea with effect”.

“Instructions have been given on both sides to give effect to this understanding,” Misri said, adding that the Directors General of Military Operations would “talk again on 12th of May at 1200 hours (11:30am PKT)”.

PM Shehbaz thanked Trump for his “leadership and proactive role” in helping Pakistan and India achieve peace in the region.

“Pakistan appreciates the US for facilitating this outcome, which we have accepted in the interest of regional peace and stability,” PM Shehbaz said in a post on X.

“We also thank Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio for their valuable contributions to peace in South Asia,” the premier said, adding that the country believed the step marked a new beginning in resolving issues that have plagued the region and hindered its journey toward peace, prosperity and stability.


PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari said that Pakistan has consistently pursued dialogue and diplomacy as the “only viable path to peace”.

“War, violence and aggression are never the answer,” the Bhutto scion wrote on X. “Now that both India and Pakistan have agreed to a ceasefire and dialogue, we welcome this as a victory for diplomacy.”

Bilawal appreciated the role of the US, Saudi Arabia and all countries “involved in achieving this historic milestone”.

“As a Pakistani, I could not be more proud of our people, our army and especially our Air Force. Pakistan Zindabad.”

Operations commence
At around 3:30am on Saturday, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Lt Gen Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry said that India targeted the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) Nur Khan (Chaklala, Rawalpindi), Murid (Chakwal) and Rafiqui (Shorkot in Jhang district) air bases, adding that all PAF assets remained safe.

Addressing a press conference, he said that India was “pushing the whole region towards a dangerous war with its madness, aggression and deceit”. The DG ISPR also said that India had fired missiles at Afghanistan and used drones to conduct attacks as well.

The military spokesperson said that “the majority” of Indian missiles fired at PAF airbases were intercepted by the armed forces’ air defence systems. He noted that the few Indian missiles that were not intercepted and “sneaked in” had “not been able to cause any damage” to PAF’s flying assets, as per the initial damage assessment reports.

The DG ISPR said that the air defence systems of the armed forces were able to “successfully prevent the desired objectives of India”.

He added the missiles and drone attacks by India on Afghanistan shortly after attacks on the territory of Indian Punjab were “part of a larger sinister plan to push the region and beyond into havoc”.

Lt Gen Chaudhry said that the PAF had the electronic signatures of all Indian missiles, including “from where they were initiated and what was targeted”.

The military’s spokesperson assured the nation that the armed forces were “vigilant and thwarting all these cowardly acts of aggression by Indians”.

“These blatant acts of aggression by India actually reflect the paranoia within Indian mindset which continues to grow after failure of each of these acts and the paranoia continues to also grow once it realises that they cannot break the resolve and will of the people of Pakistan which actually strengthens and further grows with each such cowardly act.”

He further said that the “growing frustration and paranoia” of the Indians would be “further compounded”.

At 4:38am, state-run PTV News said that the Pakistani military had launched its counter-attack against Indian aggression.

At 5:52am, PTV News and Radio Pakistan announced that the Pakistani military had destroyed a site storing Brahmos missiles in India’s Beas region as part of the retaliatory operation called ‘Bunyan-um-Marsoos’.

In a statement, the broadcasters reported that attacks were ongoing at more places in India and that airbases in Udhampur and Pathankot were also destroyed.

Federal Minister for Communications Abdul Aleem Khan also confirmed that Operation Bunyan-um-Marsoos was launched against the “enemy”.

“Long live Pakistan — May Allah protect our falcons,” the minister said in a post on X.

PPP Senator Sherry Rehman said that Pakistan responded with precision and strategic integrity by targeting only Indian military targets.

“In tonight’s unprovoked attack by India once again, civilian populations have been indiscriminately attacked in Pakistan,” Rehman said. “This is the clear difference.”

At 6:13am, PTV News said in a video update that a storage site of Brahmos missiles was destroyed.


At 6:50am IST (6:20am PKT), The Times of India reported that explosion-like sounds were heard in Punjab’s Pathankot district early on Saturday morning,

“The blasts, reported around 5am, however, have not yet been officially acknowledged by authorities. A blackout was enforced in Pathankot on Friday night, with officials urging residents to remain indoors as a precautionary measure,” it said.

PTV News said at 6:29am that Pakistani drones were active in the skies above India’s capital New Delhi. Soon after, the government said on X that Pakistan had targeted key Indian military installations in a “befitting response” as part of ‘Bunyan-um-Marsoos’.

“These actions are being carried out in response to India’s initial attack, which was an assault on our homeland, people and sovereignty,” the statement said, referring to Indian missile strikes against the three PAF bases.

PTV News further reported at 7:13am that hypersonic missiles launched by a PAF JF-17 Thunder destroyed an Indian S-400 system in Adampur. It added that the S-400 air defence system is worth approximately $1.5 billion.

PTV News also said that most Indian websites, including the BJP’s official website and the Border Security Forces (BSF), were hacked as Pakistan’s counterattack continued.

Other hacked websites included the Crime Research Investigation Agency, the Mahanagar Telecommunication Company Limited, the Bharat Earth Movers Limited, All India Naval Technical Supervisory Staff Association, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, Unique Identification Authority of India.

“Data leaked sites include Indian Air Force, Maharashtra Election Commission and others,” the statement added. “In addition, more than 2,500 surveillance cameras have also been hacked.”

Deputy Prime Minister Ishaq Dar spoke to Geo News around 7am and said that Pakistan was operating on the defensive and had no choice but to retaliate to India’s military actions.

“The tamasha (circus) that India has done in the past three days, we will not let India claim hegemony. The Pakistan Armed Forces and government are determined that this will not happen.

“This operation that we started today, it will all end in some way. It all depends on what India wants,” he said.

“Pakistan had no choice, so our civil military leadership made the decision following the attack on Nur Khan Air Base. No more patience. We are just giving them a response.

“We’ve exhibited a lot of patience so far. There is a threshold which we cannot.

Source: Dawn News
 
Religious extremist is your prime minister.

Exactly. These Indians love acting like they are some secular, open minded tolerant country. Your PM was one time banned from entering USA for being behind the genocide of muslims in Gujrat.

Looking into the mirror is not a bad idea sometimes :rizwan
 
Well since my point clearly flew over your head, let’s look at the UN designated terrorist groups operating from Pakistan. Al Qaeda, LeT, JeM, TTP and the Haqqani network. UN designated terrorist groups operating from India: None.
Modi was on US travel ban list until that extremist was elected as PM. This bs narrative of yours used to sell decades ago. Now no one buys it as evident from recent events.
 
Facts after IndoPak War 2025

India was overconfident and mistaken Pakistan as Bhutan or Maldives by launching Missiles.

Pakistan responded aptly by downing state of the art Rafales which rattled IAF.

India lauded a drone war on Pakistan to test further waters in enemy territory


Pakistan did war damage in J&K , perplexing India to launch more missile attacks.

Pakistan knew enough is enough and responded with a heavy attack on Indian Military bases.

Sensing the situation India pleaed to US to intervene and stop the war.
 
No. Both have nuclear weapons. Population is almost same. Land mass wise China is slightly bigger.

We never believed usa will be with us. Isreal n Russia are the only allies we ever had and ever will
Russia was very neutral in comments as well.

The only country who outright supported you was Israel. Itself who survives on US billions and US handouts for everything worth in their weapon inventory.
 
Facts after IndoPak War 2025

India was overconfident and mistaken Pakistan as Bhutan or Maldives by launching Missiles.

Pakistan responded aptly by downing state of the art Rafales which rattled IAF.

India lauded a drone war on Pakistan to test further waters in enemy territory


Pakistan did war damage in J&K , perplexing India to launch more missile attacks.

Pakistan knew enough is enough and responded with a heavy attack on Indian Military bases.

Sensing the situation India pleaed to US to intervene and stop the war.
You are conveniently omitting the fact that Pakistani airbases and airdefence in Lahore got destroyed which was recorded live in front of the whole world..anything else is ..he said she said
 
Facts after IndoPak War 2025

India was overconfident and mistaken Pakistan as Bhutan or Maldives by launching Missiles.

Pakistan responded aptly by downing state of the art Rafales which rattled IAF.

India lauded a drone war on Pakistan to test further waters in enemy territory


Pakistan did war damage in J&K , perplexing India to launch more missile attacks.

Pakistan knew enough is enough and responded with a heavy attack on Indian Military bases.

Sensing the situation India pleaed to US to intervene and stop the war.
So this is the pak media and public narrative that's been fed. Ok
 
Good to hear about the ceasefire.

I mentioned last night this was the perfect time after the fancy operations from both sides. Otherwise, they might not have been able to reel this in later.
 
You are conveniently omitting the fact that Pakistani airbases and airdefence in Lahore got destroyed which was recorded live in front of the whole world..anything else is ..he said she said
Show us the record of the destruction..is it the same file with Karachi port destroyed and Islamabad captured by India?
 
So this is the pak media and public narrative that's been fed. Ok
The truth will come out and there was probably a nuclear blackmail involved after taking a big hit in Nur Khan air base. CNN already reporting about a critical intelligence input that was passed on to Modi from VP Vance yesterday night Washington time.
 
So this is the pak media and public narrative that's been fed. Ok

These are hard facts based on foreign media reports though one thing which is omitted ,the pleading of Col. Sofia who submissively agreed for deescalation before Trump jumped in
 
Show us the record of the destruction..is it the same file with Karachi port destroyed and Islamabad captured by India?
the whole world have seen the videos of it.. do you wanna see all of them or just a sample..??
 
Modi was on US travel ban list until that extremist was elected as PM. This bs narrative of yours used to sell decades ago. Now no one buys it as evident from recent events.
Ok so you’re intentionally deflecting. We have a different thread to discuss Modi. I was talking about the ideology India is fighting, supported by a list of UN designated terrorist organisations based in Pakistan. I’m not selling a narrative for you to buy, just stating our position wrt Pahalgam attack and terrorism in general.
 
Indians love using the word terrorist not realising India championed terrorism in the 80s (AI182), right up to the murder on foreign soil recently.

Rone do.

Cult Indians went running and begging to Amreeka, and now are trying to find solace at the UN. 😂😂😂
 
Foreign media is great when they quoted 'an unnamed french source' about Rafale being shot. By the way number of jets still differ from poster to poster.

Foreign media not so great when they reported Lahore airbase and air defence destroyed..

Hmmm
 
Ok so you’re intentionally deflecting. We have a different thread to discuss Modi. I was talking about the ideology India is fighting, supported by a list of UN designated terrorist organisations based in Pakistan. I’m not selling a narrative for you to buy, just stating our position wrt Pahalgam attack and terrorism in general.
I am not deflecting. A religious extremist named Modi ordered terrorist attacks in Pakistan hence this thread is created.
 
The video literally showed the airbases getting bombed.. and these are neutral verified sources none of which are Indian

But ofcourse even Allah comes before you and tells you ..you won't believe .. even your DG ISPR has told that three airbases got attacked ..

You guys are so delusional it's funny🤣
Pindi sattelite videos today show only small burns on taxi way.
My entire family is from Lahore and I despise the military generals in Pakistan but neither side 'destroyed' anything. Both have extremely powerful ballistic missles which could wipe small fortifications, never mind airbases, but only smaller scale almost rocket level munitions were used.

The entire world was laughing at your media, learn some humility atleast. From CNN to Reuters to BBC articles were churned out how you guys lost your prized jets.

Get some self reflection.
 

Pakistan 'committed to ceasefire' as it accuses India of 'violations in some areas​


In the last few minutes, Pakistan's foreign ministry has responded to that statement made by Vikram Misri.

A spokesperson said: “Pakistan remains committed to faithful implementation of ceasefire between Pakistan and India, announced earlier today.

"Notwithstanding the violations being committed by India in some areas, our forces are handling the situation with responsibility and restraint.

"We believe that any issues in smooth implementation of the ceasefire should be addressed through communication at appropriate levels.

"The troops on ground should also exercise restraint.”

Source: BBC
 
You are conveniently omitting the fact that Pakistani airbases and airdefence in Lahore got destroyed which was recorded live in front of the whole world..anything else is ..he said she said
So? Pakistan can take any take damage. We don’t cry. We hit back. You losers are loud and obnoxious and know how to make noise but fold when **** hits the fan.
 
Pindi sattelite videos today show only small burns on taxi way.
My entire family is from Lahore and I despise the military generals in Pakistan but neither side 'destroyed' anything. Both have extremely powerful ballistic missles which could wipe small fortifications, never mind airbases, but only smaller scale almost rocket level munitions were used.

The entire world was laughing at your media, learn some humility atleast. From CNN to Reuters to BBC articles were churned out how you guys lost your prized jets.

Get some self reflection.
The poor indian awaam have been shielded from the true losses indian forces suffered. But the indian establishment knows it. They know not to mess with Pakistan and risk losing their expensive toys again.
 
Come on, it’s honestly been pretty embarrassing for India. They thought they could just hit Pakistan, call it a strike on ‘terrorist hideouts,’ and get away with it like nothing would happen.

the moment Pakistan hit back, India ran to America and shook hands with pakistan on the orders of anerica.

For a country that’s always hyping itself up, that’s pretty embarrassing.

Brother Pakistanis said back in 1971 they won as well even though they lost a good chunk of their country and 91k of your soldiers surrendered.

Not accepting reality is a Pakistani speciality decades after decades 🤡
 

Modi you won't be spared.

Nah not really brother, I was speaking to my hardcore communist family members yesterday who always hated BJP in my pseudo secular home town kerala, even they are now fully backing Modichayan....
 
Nah not really brother, I was speaking to my hardcore communist family members yesterday who always hated BJP in my pseudo secular home town kerala, even they are now fully backing Modichayan....
Purpose of this whole drama fulfilled.
Exactly what the fascists regimes do. They do violence abroad to deal with dissent at home.
All in the name of national pride and security.
 
Purpose of this whole drama fulfilled.
Exactly what the fascists regimes do. They do violence abroad to deal with dissent at home.
All in the name of national pride and security.

Purpose achieved for Asim Munir and the military that has seen its popularity dip and Imran Khan's popularity on the rise..

Munir needed the Palgham incident to strengthen his position....
 
Purpose achieved for Asim Munir and the military that has seen its popularity dip and Imran Khan's popularity on the rise..

Munir needed the Palgham incident to strengthen his position....
In the absence of any evidence that Pak was involved in Pahalgham I am compelled to believe that attack would help Modi a lot more before Behar elections.
Just like Pulwama incident did right before 2019 general election.
 
In the absence of any evidence that Pak was involved in Pahalgham I am compelled to believe that attack would help Modi a lot more before Behar elections.
Just like Pulwama incident did right before 2019 general election.

Yes brother yes, Pakistan can do no wrong and is always right.. Agreed..
 
Brother Pakistanis said back in 1971 they won as well even though they lost a good chunk of their country and 91k of your soldiers surrendered.

Not accepting reality is a Pakistani speciality decades after decades 🤡

Indian preconfigured response:

1965
1971
Kargil
Terrorists
Evidence (No unnamed sources allowed even from the most credible voices in world media)
Grok Sarr

These pathetic losers are burning and the funniest thing is they're here on a Pakistani forum selling their narrative Hahaha. Utter losers
 
Apparently we have a female pilot in custody but part of ceasefire deal was she won't be put on media.
 
In the absence of any evidence that Pak was involved in Pahalgham I am compelled to believe that attack would help Modi a lot more before Behar elections.
Just like Pulwama incident did right before 2019 general election.

There is enough circumstantial evidence, as much as there is for any such attack, to suggest that Pakistan may have had a hand in it.
 
Looks like prayers have worked. Trump came to the rescue of his devotees.
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Yes brother yes, Pakistan can do no wrong and is always right.. Agreed..

And vice versa right? Facts are that India took on a country on 5th your size, beat your chests and celebrated kids getting killed. Your massive army, economy and so called firepower did not land a knockout blow and you agreed a ceasefire at the first opportunity. However you sell it, the international community aren't buying it. Sure, it'll sell to your domestic audience but that's about it.
 
Such as?

Also no attackers caught is a big red flag for an inside job.

Modi played to his jahil awaam domestically, got a bloody nose. Sacrificed jawaans for his ego and political means. His band of merry online keyboard warriors here on a pak forum fighting his war like good little underlings sarrr
 
India has been humiliated.
Evidence: just read the Indian posts here on PP
 
There is enough circumstantial evidence, as much as there is for any such attack, to suggest that Pakistan may have had a hand in it.

May have had a hand in it? That's enough to launch an attack on a sovereign country and then suffer losses in return? How'd that work out mate?
 
Apparently we have a female pilot in custody but part of ceasefire deal was she won't be put on media.
We have I have seen pictures of her with pakistan army but I can't find the picture looking for it I came across it on tiktok.

Shivani Singh her name is
 
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