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Pakistan collapse to 190 all out at stumps on Day 2, set South Africa target of 149 to win

Tricky chase for SA here, but they are not batting today. That's a saving grace.
 
Junaids said:
The situation has changed.

Did you see Dale Steyn wasting time? They want to minimise how many overs they face tonight.

So I’d think “declare now, make them face 6 overs”.

Pakistan lasted an extra over for 4 runs, but now there will probably only be 3 overs to face tonight I suspect.
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There will be no overs
 
With Shaheen hitting a 4, this is the 2nd time in last few months that PAK Captain is dismissed for the lowest score in combined team innings (here in each innings) - I doubt if any bowling captain has this glorified record.
 
Pathetic batting display...

South African batsmen will be under no pressure at all and only a miraculous effort with the ball can turn Pakistan's way.
 
100/1 to 190 all out. Huge effort from a sure shot losing position.

148 is still lots of runs here, but it was not that hard to imagine Pakistan putting additional 80-100 runs here. That would have put this game beyond SA reach.

Fascinating day tomorrow.
 
Amir needs to do Amir in 2010 vs Aus in Eng and Shaeen and Hassan need to back him.
 
At least it's technically an 150 target. Didn't think we'd get that at the latter stages got a bit lucky with a few decent boundaries by the tailenders to add on.
 
Would be hilarious if somebody said "Skipper your contribution to this Test match was a grand total of 0" when Sarfraz gives his pep talk tomorrow morning about how they can defend 149. I don't know how somebody can command respect after Sarfraz's attitude on the field coupled with his batting exploits for the past 2 years.
 
shariqnoor said:
Would be hilarious if somebody said "Skipper your contribution to this Test match was a grand total of 0" when Sarfraz gives his pep talk tomorrow morning about how they can defend 149. I don't know how somebody can command respect after Sarfraz's attitude on the field coupled with his batting exploits for the past 2 years.
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This.
 
Buffet said:
100/1 to 190 all out. Huge effort from a sure shot losing position.

148 is still lots of runs here, but it was not that hard to imagine Pakistan putting additional 80-100 runs here. That would have put this game beyond SA reach.

Fascinating day tomorrow.
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148 on day five may be.
But day three is usually the best day for batting and from what I saw the wicket only seems to be getting better and better to bat on.
 
The outfield is rapid. One major partnership of 50-60 and its game over for Pak.

100-1 to 190 ao is pak in a nutshell. I don't think we will ever see a reliable Pak batting line up in our life time
 
Need to set mini targets,
10-2
40-4
And we take it from there.
We had them 40-4 in the first innings too.
Need to bowl straight and at the top of middle and off and hope for the best.
No drive balls at all
 
Another 25 runs would have tilted the balance in favor of Pakistan.

This is still a tricky total. But SA should be able to win this with 6 wickets to spare. Pitch looks good to bat on. New ball is very important for Pakistan. They need to rip through SA's top order very quickly. SA batting is not that great and Pak's strength is their bowling.
 
Weather predictions for tomorrow?

If it’s cloudy, Pakistani bowlers can lick their lips and will be in a great chance to win the game.
 
IMMY69 said:
148 on day five may be.
But day three is usually the best day for batting and from what I saw the wicket only seems to be getting better and better to bat on.
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Inconsistent bounce and ball jagging around. This won't be an easy chase for South Africa, provided we keep our discipline.
 
Buffet said:
100/1 to 190 all out. Huge effort from a sure shot losing position.

148 is still lots of runs here, but it was not that hard to imagine Pakistan putting additional 80-100 runs here. That would have put this game beyond SA reach.

Fascinating day tomorrow.
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If PAK wins this Test, it'll be massive failure for SAF's part, but PAK's display was pathetic - SAF has to out perform them.
 
So by not declaring at 9 down, Pakistan don’t bowl at all tonight, whereas they would have had 4 overs had the innings closed before 5.20 pm.

What is wrong with Sarfraz’s brain?

He’s only got 3 quicks, and I’d rather defend 144 from 6-2 overnight than 149 with all 10 wickets intact.

I’m 50 years old but my brain adapts to rapidly changing circumstances. But Sarfraz seems incapable of that.
 
Our inability to win close games exposes our mental frailties, but I am glad because Sarfraz and his supporters deserve this.
 
IMMY69 said:
148 on day five may be.
But day three is usually the best day for batting and from what I saw the wicket only seems to be getting better and better to bat on.
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This SA batting line up can choke, no matter how the surface is playing. Only reason they in this game is due to tails putting runs. Otherwise they were out of this game.
 
Very little hope of winning.Our bowling is good but i dont think they can defend 149.We have basically 3 bowlers only as Yasir wont be of much use and with hassan bowling 5 lose deliveries for 1 peach,this chase might be over in the first session.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Inconsistent bounce and ball jagging around. This won't be an easy chase for South Africa, provided we keep our discipline.
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Yes but our top order showed that you can get runs on this wicket easily.

Azhar, Asad and Safaraz (our entire middle order) just threw their wickets away.
It would take a similar display by the Saffies for us to stand a chance.
Also, chasing a small target with two days to spare takes away any pressure.

It really would take an extra special effort to win this game from this position.
it has to be 85/15, if not more, in favour of South Africa.
 
Junaids said:
So by not declaring at 9 down, Pakistan don’t bowl at all tonight, whereas they would have had 4 overs had the innings closed before 5.20 pm.

What is wrong with Sarfraz’s brain?

He’s only got 3 quicks, and I’d rather defend 144 from 6-2 overnight than 149 with all 10 wickets intact.

I’m 50 years old but my brain adapts to rapidly changing circumstances. But Sarfraz seems incapable of that.
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No one in their right mind would declare when the lead is only 140. Every run seems to be like gold dust there. If anything, time is not a factor in this test
 
Mamoon said:
Our inability to win close games exposes our mental frailties, but I am glad because Sarfraz and his supporters deserve this.
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ya run after Sarfaraz what about duds like Azahr and Asad? embarrassing to watch their dismissal a potential younus and misbah replacement lol ya right... they ll play a 4th innings classic in last test and all will be fine.
 
MMHS said:
If PAK wins this Test, it'll be massive failure for SAF's part, but PAK's display was pathetic - SAF has to out perform them.
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I am not too sure if SA won't outperform Pakistan here. Only issue I can see that Pakistan bowling is not that tight and they give enough hit me balls. Those extra 30-40 runs may make it easier for SA.
 
Abdullah said:
That's what hurts the most
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Sometimes, I really feel do these bunch deserve this passion? We are watching this game wasting time & sleep, and absolutely no ownership, no remorse, to commitment!!!!!
 
I'll start watching test cricket again only when Sarfraz and Asad are out of the team. For now, its waste of time
 
Often fans have been shielding the middle and lower order for collapsing with the excuse that as the top order doesnt perform it puts the lower order under pressure.But today both Shan and Imam performed well but again our other batsmen left us stranded.They literally handed over the match to the Saffers with their pathetic performance.so disheartening this is.
 
Junaids said:
So by not declaring at 9 down, Pakistan don’t bowl at all tonight, whereas they would have had 4 overs had the innings closed before 5.20 pm.

What is wrong with Sarfraz’s brain?

He’s only got 3 quicks, and I’d rather defend 144 from 6-2 overnight than 149 with all 10 wickets intact.

I’m 50 years old but my brain adapts to rapidly changing circumstances. But Sarfraz seems incapable of that.
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SA openers didn't want to bat today, but no way team is going to declare with 140-150 lead. Even 15 extra runs would mean adding 10% of runs.
 
Faisalabad 1997
South Africa set us up 144 in 4th innings.
Pollock Donald Symcox ripped pak team apart under 100.

Can pakistan return favor ?
 
rhony said:
No one in their right mind would declare when the lead is only 140. Every run seems to be like gold dust there. If anything, time is not a factor in this test
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You make the opposition do what they don’t want to do.

When Steyn started messing around with his boots you knew that they were terrified of losing one or two wickets tonight and then being anxious all night.

Shaheen can’t bat. I’d have declared the second Steyn took off his boot and put the pressure right back on to them. Under the playing conditions they would have batted from 5.29 to 5.45, so probably 4 overs.
 
I fear that the wicket is not that bad.It's our batsmen who have made it seem more than it actually is.And today was better than yesterday in terms of batting.And its just Day 3 tomorrow.how many more heartbreaks from Sarfaraz and co.
 
Why did the umpires call stumps for the day!?

10 overs were left!

I am sure we could have atleast picked up a couple of weeks during this time but umpires made such a pathetic decision

Now SA will be fresh for tomorrow and we will have no chance

Biased officiating against Pakistan
 
Haseeb 22 said:
10 overs were left!

I am sure we could have atleast picked up a couple of weeks during this time but umpires made such a pathetic decision

Now SA will be fresh for tomorrow and we will have no chance

Biased officiating against Pakistan
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think we needed to have played one more over for that to happen
 
Buffet said:
I am not too sure if SA won't outperform Pakistan here. Only issue I can see that Pakistan bowling is not that tight and they give enough hit me balls. Those extra 30-40 runs may make it easier for SA.
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Out perform in terms of how pathetic you ban be :(

That's exactly the concern - remember in other thread (... how PAK pacers could perform on Perth track), I wrote that they are not tight enough, and might get over excited. Last year, IND pacers kept things tight at J'burg until floodgate opened and SAF lost like 9-35!!! Even in Adelaide, AUS batted much longer than IND, but bowlers kept scoring rate tight.

A part from Amir, others are not tight enough to choke runs - PAK has to blow SAF here, can't defend this total by tightening screw.
 
We have to be spot on with our bowling.

Absolutely no looseners in 1st 10 overs. If we can get Elgar, Faf, Bruyn and Bavuma cheaply, we might just have a shot at this. Remember, they were 44-4 in the 1st innings. No reason why we can't do it again especially under clouds and rainy conditions.

And Yasir needs to come to the party to clean up the tail/lower order.

Let's see what rain does to the pitch. Hopefully the extra moisture aids us.

Very low expectations though. Realistically, SA will win with 3/4 wickets to spare.
 
Very,very surprising.Very easily 10 more overs could have been done.if Pakistan were still batting i am sure stumps wouldn't have been called this early.Indeed SA will be well rested tomorrow and fresh.Anther bonus factor for them.Hopefully it backfires and the pitch deteriorates further.Fat chance but one can hope.
 
MenInG said:
think we needed to have played one more over for that to happen
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If they got out an over earlier, SA would have had to bat again I think.

Stipulated close of play is 5pm, extra half hour takes it to 5.30pm. Pakistan's innings was wrapped up around 5.22pm and changeover takes like 10 mins I guess.
 
Junaids said:
You make the opposition do what they don’t want to do.

When Steyn started messing around with his boots you knew that they were terrified of losing one or two wickets tonight and then being anxious all night.

Shaheen can’t bat. I’d have declared the second Steyn took off his boot and put the pressure right back on to them. Under the playing conditions they would have batted from 5.29 to 5.45, so probably 4 overs.
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Hasan can hit them long.

You can't make such left-field decisions with such a small total on the scoreboard.
 
Faf and Amla are not going to fail two innings in a row. Game is done and dusted. They gonna win by 6-7 wickets max. Chill out.
 
Green Patriot said:
Very,very surprising.Very easily 10 more overs could have been done.if Pakistan were still batting i am sure stumps wouldn't have been called this early.Indeed SA will be well rested tomorrow and fresh.Anther bonus factor for them.Hopefully it backfires and the pitch deteriorates further.Fat chance but one can hope.
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You can't just keep playing forever. You can only play on for 30 minutes after the scheduled close of play.
 
No game awareness shown from our idiotic batsmen.
Its a recurrent theme so I suspect some of them lack IQ.

When you get lose two quick wickets and are suddenly 103 for three with only a lead of 70 with 2 days and almost a session left you make sure you don't throw your wicket away...Yet our batsmen do the very opposite. Azhar, Shafiq and Safaraz played like complete novices.
 
SA has won this game. They can slog to 150 here if they need to. Our bowlers will be all over the place trying too much. SA to win this by 6 wickets.:(
 
Junaids said:
You make the opposition do what they don’t want to do.

When Steyn started messing around with his boots you knew that they were terrified of losing one or two wickets tonight and then being anxious all night.

Shaheen can’t bat. I’d have declared the second Steyn took off his boot and put the pressure right back on to them. Under the playing conditions they would have batted from 5.29 to 5.45, so probably 4 overs.
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Yes, if the lead was around 200. 140+ is where you pray for some lucky runs from No. 10 and 11.
 
Haseeb 22 said:
I bet Pakistan would have been ordered to get their backsides out in the field if it was the other way around
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NO. Game started 10 AM local time - 7 hours + 30 minutes extension, it's scheduled to close at 5:30 PM. If there was some weather interruptions, further time could have been added. No conspiracy, no victimization here - umpires are playing by rule. Faf & Sarfraz might be fined for slow over rate.
 
And just like that, another Asian team has fluffed a match winning position in south Africa in one session. :facepalm:

All Pak needed was one good partnership after imam/Shan and they got none. Atleast a 30-40 run one would have put Pak in a commanding position.
But nope , not gonna happen.
 
Because time was over.

You can't keep playing beyond extended time due to slow over rates by both teams.
 
Plumb said:
ya run after Sarfaraz what about duds like Azahr and Asad? embarrassing to watch their dismissal a potential younus and misbah replacement lol ya right... they ll play a 4th innings classic in last test and all will be fine.
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They are poor but still far better than the captain.
 
DUANNE OLIVIER completed an 11-wicket haul in the match, Kagiso Rabada went past his half-century of Test wickets in the calendar year, and Dale Steyn took his 50th wicket against Pakistan as 15 wickets again fell on the second day of the first Castle Lager Test match at SuperSport Park on Thursday.

Nine of those wickets fell in the final session of play for just 90 runs as Pakistan were bowled out shortly before the close, leaving the Standard Bank Proteas a victory target of 149 runs on what seems certain to be the final day tomorrow.

This was as a result of the Proteas taking a lead of 42 runs on the first innings thanks to Temba Bavuma’s half-century (53 off 87 balls, 9 fours) and 45 from Quinton de Kock (53 balls, 5 fours) which could have been a lot more had he not run out of reliable partners.

Bavuma has become a key member of the Proteas batting line-up, particularly when the pressure is on. Apart from the retired AB de Villiers he is the only South African batsman to have an average of 40 in the current calendar year with Aiden Markram and Dean Elgar the next best, both on 35.

The Proteas would have been happy to have scored 96 in the morning session even if it came at the cost of their remaining 5 first innings wickets.

Then Pakistan looked as though they would set the Proteas a very tough target as Imam-ul-Haq (57 off 96 balls, 8 fours and a six) and Shan Masud (65 off 120 balls, 7 fours and a six) shared a second wicket partnership that took Pakistan to 100/1 at tea.

As has been the case so often in this match it was Olivier who started the collapse by dismissing Imam and Pakistan’s senior batsman, Azhar Ali, in the space of four balls, thus opening up the rest of the order.

Shan continued to fight until he was 9th man out but nobody was able to hang around with him for any length of time. Olivier took five wickets for the second time in the match to finish with a career best 11/96, the 10th best match figures for South Africa of all time. Rabada picked up three to take his total for the calendar year past 50 in only 10 matches and Steyn picked up the other 2 to take his total against Pakistan to exactly 50 in 11 matches.
 
MMHS said:
Out perform in terms of how pathetic you ban be :(

That's exactly the concern - remember in other thread (... how PAK pacers could perform on Perth track), I wrote that they are not tight enough, and might get over excited. Last year, IND pacers kept things tight at J'burg until floodgate opened and SAF lost like 9-35!!! Even in Adelaide, AUS batted much longer than IND, but bowlers kept scoring rate tight.

A part from Amir, others are not tight enough to choke runs - PAK has to blow SAF here, can't defend this total by tightening screw.
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Pakistani bowlers not having discipline has saved SA so far and likely allow a win due to same reason, but I am disgusted with batting by SA here. Last series it was AB who won it against SA and others were thumb sicking.
 
Let the game finish and then you all can start crying. SA still needs to knock off 150 odd. Sure we could and should have done a lot better but lets support the team and inshallah they will pull it off!
 
149 is just not good enough. Remember South Africa will be batting on Day 3 pitch not Day 5
 
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