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Pakistan deserve 7th position in ICC's Test rankings

Seems a few posters trying hard to outdo each other in the level of inane comments

Suggest watch how you express yourself
 
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Time is ripe to start 2 tier system in test cricket.

No discrimination please in the game which we all so dearly love. I'm pretty sure most of us Indian fans would have fumed at such a suggestion back in the 90's.
 
No discrimination please in the game which we all so dearly love. I'm pretty sure most of us Indian fans would have fumed at such a suggestion back in the 90's.

It nothing to do with discrimination, the most important point is when everybody is trying to convince each other how important test cricket is and players having to give interviews saying people should watch it etc If we have to tiers the second tier teams will just not play test cricket and just concentrate on ODI's which some are already doing.
 
Pakistan is a proper #7 team in Tests

Very poor batting.

Looked like 10 kids batting out there, on a Sunday morning, just slogging.

This is test format, you should respect it.

Losing from a winning situation.

Pak is a poor test team and #7 rightfully so.
 
We weren't like this.

This loser Sarfraz led us to a whitewash against SL, in the freakin UAE.

Now a potential defeat to NZ in a test that was impossible to lose. A draw against a depleted Aussie side.

We're becoming certified minnows under him.
 
Very poor batting.

Looked like 10 kids batting out there, on a Sunday morning, just slogging.

This is test format, you should respect it.

Losing from a winning situation.

Pak is a poor test team and #7 rightfully so.

Reminding me of the way the Windies batted in the recent test series in India.

Poor from PCT. They are better than this.
 
Some people were serving me humble pies yesterday morning after Hasan took some quick wickets.

I do not expect or need an apology, but please remember that there is always some wisdom behind what I say. I won’t call them out of respect, but they know who they are.

Our fans deserve this humiliation.
 
Yet we go out and draw series against england at their den which number 1 team fails to do.

No we are not.
 
That was the worst batting display I've ever seen in my life.

A complete shambles; top to bottom. Awful, gutless, mentally shot cricketers who should hang their heads in shame.
 
We may be number 7 in rankings, but when it comes delusion, our fans are number one without any competition.

Zero, zero understanding of cricket and negative infinity level of perception.
 
Some people were serving me humble pies yesterday morning after Hasan took some quick wickets.

I do not expect or need an apology, but please remember that there is always some wisdom behind what I say. I won’t call them out of respect, but they know who they are.

Our fans deserve this humiliation.

no your the only one who deserves himiliation with your innane stupid posts and desire to spread misery..its a game..its test match cricket..thinks like this can happen..especially with an inexperienced team..but you wouldnt know that because to eager to spread your brand of drug induced joy for everyone..
 
Man, I so badly want India to play test series against Pak. We will smash them in test cricket anywhere on planet green earth. Our boys are missing out on easy wins :sanga
 
Embarssing defeat. Changes need to be made. Azhar isn't a number 3. Hafeez is finished. Bilal is a garbage spinner.

Captain won't be replaced. But I don't see a point in stick with the 2nd coming of Breeley.
 
Very poor performance. Unexpected really. Their best batsmen is Azhar Ali, that explains how poor the batting is.
 
Don't remember when we were this brainless in Tests. All credit goes to Sarfraz.
 
Forget rankings for a minute. Forget India for a minute.

Somebody needs to get these boys with a psychologist ASAP. They aren't fit to play international cricket.
This has been going on for way too long now. The players that we are producing are all mentally fried to the core and there needs to be an inquest into this.

The bowling, batting and fielding can come later.
 
Don't want to sound rude but, that batting application looked worse than Zim, who worked hard against Ban.

Babar, the only decent player has been run out by his mate.
 
We may be number 7 in rankings, but when it comes delusion, our fans are number one without any competition.

Zero, zero understanding of cricket and negative infinity level of perception.


Bro fair enough some fans take it too far. But I would back myself to see off 20 odd runs with 6 wickets left in the shed on a flat wicket in Abu Dhabi infront of a single-digit crowd.

The bigger issue is here is the mental state of the cricketers we have been producing for the past 15 odd years.
 
Pakistan is the worst Test side currently....

1- Making new spinners hero
2-No batsmen with second gear
3-Four no 11 batsmen
4- Never chase anything
5-Bad spinners
Just cancel those last two tests to survive whitewash...pathetic
 
Forget rankings for a minute. Forget India for a minute.

Somebody needs to get these boys with a psychologist ASAP. They aren't fit to play international cricket.
This has been going on for way too long now. The players that we are producing are all mentally fried to the core and there needs to be an inquest into this.

The bowling, batting and fielding can come later.

This has been Pakistan for a while now. We had a great like Younis saving us from humiliation from even worse sides like Zimbabwe 4 years ago. His 200 saved us, or it was a series win for Zimbabwe.

There's no great now.

I won't say we're minnows etc, I know our worth, but we are definitely not top 3 as some people have us think. Probably above SL and WI and below everyone else.
 
Forget rankings for a minute. Forget India for a minute.

Somebody needs to get these boys with a psychologist ASAP. They aren't fit to play international cricket.
This has been going on for way too long now. The players that we are producing are all mentally fried to the core and there needs to be an inquest into this.

The bowling, batting and fielding can come later.

Agreed man and zero cricketing sense in our players
 
Bro fair enough some fans take it too far. But I would back myself to see off 20 odd runs with 6 wickets left in the shed on a flat wicket in Abu Dhabi infront of a single-digit crowd.

The bigger issue is here is the mental state of the cricketers we have been producing for the past 15 odd years.

This is a bunch of mental midgets with very mediocre skills. Our best hope is to be ranked 7th or 6th. Utter shambles.
 
And the wrist slitting begins!

Win some - Pakistan are the world beaters!

Lose some - Pakistan are minnow level and the worst team of the lot

When are people going to learn it’s just a sport and a team game.Have some patience with the team.
 
And the wrist slitting begins!

Win some - Pakistan are the world beaters!

Lose some - Pakistan are minnow level and the worst team of the lot

When are people going to learn it’s just a sport and a team game.Have some patience with the team.
Even they win last two, they was and will be minnows for me.... Worst team ever...pathetic
 
Pak vs bd in UAE will be close one. In their home they will have the edge.
Even zim can give tough fight, if pitch is bowlers friendly.
Without yasir this team is minnow level.
 
We may be number 7 in rankings, but when it comes delusion, our fans are number one without any competition.

Zero, zero understanding of cricket and negative infinity level of perception
.

The one that takes the cake is:

"India have benefited immensely over the last decade by not having to play Pakistan".
 
The team is great. The problem is with the wrist-slitters, naysayers, haters, attention-seekers and people who have forgotten to take their meds.
 
Forget rankings for a minute. Forget India for a minute.

Somebody needs to get these boys with a psychologist ASAP. They aren't fit to play international cricket.
This has been going on for way too long now. The players that we are producing are all mentally fried to the core and there needs to be an inquest into this.

The bowling, batting and fielding can come later.

Which doctor should the psychologist see after meeting these guys?
 
no your the only one who deserves himiliation with your innane stupid posts and desire to spread misery..its a game..its test match cricket..thinks like this can happen..especially with an inexperienced team..but you wouldnt know that because to eager to spread your brand of drug induced joy for everyone..

Lame excuse of inexperience, Please don't. Accept we are rubbish as cricketing brain talent chicken hearted player. One win here and there won't changed reality.
 
Our batting is on West Indies level. It's our bowling that keeps up competitive.
 
They are just an average side, probably still above WI, SLN and BAN. That is it. No where close to the top 5 teams. You need to unearth some good talent to be able to be in top 5 again, let alone top 3.
 
It's reflected in the rankings.

#7

For a reason.

Got whitewashed against SL at home.

Beat by NZ at home.

Drew a test against the weakest AUS side.

All under Sarfraz the street fighter. :sarf
 
I actually think 7 is low for PAK. 6 seems to be the right ranking for this team. SL are gonna be dreadful without Herath so i expect PAK to be better than WI/SL.
 
A full strength AUS side would have had beaten us too.

We were exactly like this before Misbah took over....
 
I actually think 7 is low for PAK. 6 seems to be the right ranking for this team. SL are gonna be dreadful without Herath so i expect PAK to be better than WI/SL.

Thanks but I think we are worse than west Indies
 
Pak will wipe the floor with teams at T20 when it comes to proper cricket teams like eng nz ind wil give them a good hiding
 
A full strength AUS side would have had beaten us too.

We were exactly like this before Misbah took over....

True.

Misbah is too underrated. Had an unbelievably good run under King Misbah.
 
We beat a weak Aussie side 1-0 and made a hash of doing so, i said before kiwi series this would be tough and a reality check and so it has to be one.
 
I actually think 7 is low for PAK. 6 seems to be the right ranking for this team. SL are gonna be dreadful without Herath so i expect PAK to be better than WI/SL.

SL whitewashed us though lol. I said the same earlier but there's not much separating SL and Pakistan tbh
 
SL, BD and PAK asia ki naak katwa rhe ho yaar... Now India will have to win in Aus to balance it out.
 
SL whitewashed us though lol. I said the same earlier but there's not much separating SL and Pakistan tbh

True but they have declined even more now and they no longer have Herath so i'll rate PAK ahead based on the current players. Also Pakistan still have talented players coming through - Shaheen etc. SL's future looks bleak.
 
SL, BD and PAK asia ki naak katwa rhe ho yaar... Now India will have to win in Aus to balance it out.

Pak is the best overseas touring Test side in the last few years.

IND ne naak katwai hai Asian teams ki, outside Asia.
 
Man, I so badly want India to play test series against Pak. We will smash them in test cricket anywhere on planet green earth. Our boys are missing out on easy wins :sanga

I'm not going to boast prematurely how we'd wipe the floor with them, but I too desperately want us to play a Test series against them.
 
Lame excuse of inexperience, Please don't. Accept we are rubbish as cricketing brain talent chicken hearted player. One win here and there won't changed reality.

ok lets accept this. Then waht? start taking anti-depressants like our resident doctor?

stop this negative nonsense. We are a weak side, there is no doubt about it but we are also a dangerous and fast improving side. You all moan about TTF's etc but now that we have a side with new players you want even newer players. Get behind the side and support them instead of moaning like 12 year olds.
Hell my 12 year old doesnt moan this much!!
 
I don’t understand how there were people who seriously thought we could challenge India if we played them. This might be our worst era of batsman who play spin well. Really need to add Fakhar into the team.
 
I'm not going to boast prematurely how we'd wipe the floor with them, but I too desperately want us to play a Test series against them.

You wish. The rules of form dont apply India pak scenarios..your team in the late 00's thought the same and we proved to be capable. The presure will be on you not us..we would be underdogs and you should understand how we perform against India in tests when we are underdogs..dont forget bangalore..
 
The batting lineup is bad. We were saved by Misbah and Younus in some difficult times and our bowling always won us games. Whenever Pakistan will be asked to chase they'll trip. Need mentally tough guys in the side, not these pressure cooker duds.
 
You wish. The rules of form dont apply India pak scenarios..your team in the late 00's thought the same and we proved to be capable. The presure will be on you not us..we would be underdogs and you should understand how we perform against India in tests when we are underdogs..dont forget bangalore..

That's why I said that I won't boast anything before hand. My point is that Pakistan leads us 12-9 in Test matches. It would be nice to get a chance for us to catch up. And it's been 11 years since both teams played a Test series. I have always wanted both the teams to play cricket irrespective of any political situation.
 
No, Sri Lanka are a #7 team. India, England, South Africa, Pakistan, New Zealand and Australia are all interchangable. There is no clear #1 and no clear #6.

I know this was a disappointing loss but this wrist-slitting is unwarranted. Pakistan should most likely win the next two tests against New Zealand.
 
That's why I said that I won't boast anything before hand. My point is that Pakistan leads us 12-9 in Test matches. It would be nice to get a chance for us to catch up. And it's been 11 years since both teams played a Test series. I have always wanted both the teams to play cricket irrespective of any political situation.

yes we should play..PP would go mad for a month..i would probably get some infractions (like the old days) then we would all shake hands and discuss movies lol..
 
Some people were serving me humble pies yesterday morning after Hasan took some quick wickets.

I do not expect or need an apology, but please remember that there is always some wisdom behind what I say. I won’t call them out of respect, but they know who they are.

Our fans deserve this humiliation.

Mamoon you are absolutely legend, i remember when you say that NZ just need Azhar to bat and we loss this match with Azhar at one end
 
Mamoon you are absolutely legend, i remember when you say that NZ just need Azhar to bat and we loss this match with Azhar at one end

I have watched nearly every innings of his since summer of 2010, and I can say with confidence that he is the biggest match-loser in Test cricket. In 8 years, he has directly influenced only one win, i.e. Sharjah 2014.

If you want to beat Pakistan, keep him at the crease for as long as possible. It doesn’t matter how many runs he scores, they will all be dead runs.
 
I have watched nearly every innings of his since summer of 2010, and I can say with confidence that he is the biggest match-loser in Test cricket. In 8 years, he has directly influenced only one win, i.e. Sharjah 2014.

If you want to beat Pakistan, keep him at the crease for as long as possible. It doesn’t matter how many runs he scores, they will all be dead runs.

Sir any solution for Pakistan team to compete with top 5?
 
I have watched nearly every innings of his since summer of 2010, and I can say with confidence that he is the biggest match-loser in Test cricket. In 8 years, he has directly influenced only one win, i.e. Sharjah 2014.

If you want to beat Pakistan, keep him at the crease for as long as possible. It doesn’t matter how many runs he scores, they will all be dead runs.

PCB need to hire some great analyst like you, because you watch the game very closely
 
Sir any solution for Pakistan team to compete with top 5?

Of course, but it will take 10 years to show results. Our incompetence was always going to backfire eventually, and the problem is that other teams are not going to wait for us to catch up.

Our days of an elite team are over. It is time we embrace our mediocrity and lower our expectations in order to minimize the disappointment.
 
Well, they just beat Australia and drew in England. What does that make them? What will it make New Zealand when Pakistan invariably beats them in the next two games?
 
We weren't like this.

This loser Sarfraz led us to a whitewash against SL, in the freakin UAE.

Now a potential defeat to NZ in a test that was impossible to lose. A draw against a depleted Aussie side.

We're becoming certified minnows under him.

when he was made captain for tests. I did say it was a wrong choice. Azhar ali undeservingly given the LOI captaincg but neglected for test when he is the most deserving for captaincy. Always make wrong choices and suffer for it.

Sarfraz if not the captain would have been discarded long time from tests for his performances
 
We weren't like this.

This loser Sarfraz led us to a whitewash against SL, in the freakin UAE.

Now a potential defeat to NZ in a test that was impossible to lose. A draw against a depleted Aussie side.

We're becoming certified minnows under him.

First it’s misbah now it’s sarfaraz. All teams go through transition and ups and down. But we are rightly ranked so low. Our batters have always been hopeless but at least we had three world class batsmen at a time now we have none.

We always had a decent seam attack with plenty of options but now barring Abbas we have nobody.

It’s impossible to climb rankings when there’s such a dearth of talent.
 
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