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Pakistan finish on 223/9 at Stumps on Day 2 of the second Test vs England

Maybe England should give 5 test matches to New Zealand. Im sure that will draw a lot of money from the south asian community in England and around the world for Sky.
 
Maybe ECB should just keep playing Australia and India for 5 tests each summer [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

That will do justice to cricket?

If performance is the criteria, then India probably deserve only 1 test series at max in Eng
 
At least it was better than Misbah's tuktuk era. Current generation are too timid and don't even able to play big shot

There is a middle path between tuk tuk and big shot. That is important in test cricket
 
They learned LOT, LOT from his bowling - hence, from the days of Intekhab, Qadir, Saq, Mush & Danish ... PAK is the team these days where darters galore. His fielding was nothing to learn from to be honest.

Super convenient to pin poor techniques and abundance of darters on Afridi.

Guy's pulling off blinders at 40 in the PSL yet Afridi's fielding was "nothing to learn from"? Wow.
 
Looking at the conditions and the way ball is swinging, Pakistan didnt do all that poorly. If they somehow reach 220, it will be a pretty decent score.

Expect Pakistani bowlers to bowl out Eng cheaply as well.
 
At least it was better than Misbah's tuktuk era. Current generation are too timid and don't even able to play big shot

You are making the fundamental mistake like many - playing big shot is not an issue of attitude, rather it’s a matter of your technic and skills. Don’t ever think that 5’6” Saeed Anwar used to hit big, because he had big heart.
 
Pakistan looking like they will be all out for under 200.

I still don’t think England will get much more than 250 though. They have their own vulnerabilities to the moving ball.

And pak won't get more than 150 in their 2nd innings

The batting will always let us down
 
Since 2016, Pakistan have produced 5-6 enthralling Test matches in England. Today they are 175-7 in seaming conditions batting first.

It is time to downgrade them to 2 Test matches like Australia has
 
Hopefully ECB will do what CA did and downgrade us from 3 Tests to 2 Tests.

These poster boys of mediocrity do not deserve to play a 3 Test match series in England, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand.

By that logic AUS shouldn't tour Asia for the next two years.

Sometimes I wonder if you had a secret lobotomy done as a child.
 
I don't know why you all are getting angry about Rizwan taking a single off the first ball. That's about 3 more runs to the total. Rizwan is as likely to get out as Shaheen against this bowling in the remaining 5 deliveries, so I'd take those 3 runs happily.
 
A hattrick will be perfect slap for Rizwan. Giving 4-5 balls to tailenders.
 
These guys won't last 4 overs after the new ball is taken. Rizwan needs to accelerate and make the most of the 7 overseas available
 
Well played Shaheen and I have a feeling Root is deliberately bowling Curren- the wicket is drying fast and I would love to keep batting side in here as long as they don’t score much. Poms will be happy if PAK bats till an hour after tea to reach 200.....
 
Since 2016, Pakistan have produced 5-6 enthralling Test matches in England. Today they are 175-7 in seaming conditions batting first.

It is time to downgrade them to 2 Test matches like Australia has

2 be fair they need to stop touring Australia full stop.

They are too one sided and and waste of time.
 
Rizwan not cashing in on the bad balls is frustrating.

Curran's short balls should be dispatched.
 
Ok the reverse angle shows the ball clearly touching the ground, so yeah not out.
 
Ball is on the ground

This umpire has been so pro England throughout Covid
 
You are making the fundamental mistake like many - playing big shot is not an issue of attitude, rather it’s a matter of your technic and skills. Don’t ever think that 5’6” Saeed Anwar used to hit big, because he had big heart.

I mean our current team not a single player has ability to play like Afridi/Jaya/Kalu/Greatbatch
. Afridi if he used his brain would go far in batting.But our current batsmen none has ability to score 4s and 6s to scare opposition. They are too timid. Neither technique nor ability.
 
Third umpire did the correct thing..but the onfield umpire, on earth what was he doing?
 
Come on man, need to put these deliveries away. Just not much point loitering about.
 
downgrade Pakistan to two Test matches, they are struggling at 176-7
 
Aah the infamous soft signal. I think the soft signal should be gotten rid of. I mean it's almost impossible for an umpire to truly judge these 50/50 catches
 
because he believed Root did not grass it. He does not have a TV

Thats a silly comment.

You only have to look at the fielders reaction...if the fielder is unsure then how can the umpire be sure??

get it?
 
Apparently you need to be 400-1 in Seaming conditions being a touring Asian side to not be downgraded to two Test matches
 
I mean our current team not a single player has ability to play like Afridi/Jaya/Kalu/Greatbatch
. Afridi if he used his brain would go far in batting.But our current batsmen none has ability to score 4s and 6s to scare opposition. They are too timid. Neither technique nor ability.

Courage comes with ability. Babar can play every type of shots in book and he does play aggressively, even on his day Asad is a fantastic driver & cutter of the ball. But, do you really think what Rizwan is doing here is because of lack of courage or the way Azhar, Imam, Shan, Abid normally plays has noting to do with their shot making ability?
 
What the hell was Shaheen trying to achieve. Why do they not use their brains.
 
Thats a silly comment.

You only have to look at the fielders reaction...if the fielder is unsure then how can the umpire be sure??

get it?

No. Umpire can still see how the catch was taken. His view. Otherwise why the soft signal. Anyways there goes Afridi:amir3
 
That has got to be one of the dumbest run outs I have ever seen.
 
Didn't see any improvement in batting since Younis appointed as batting coach.
we need foreign coaches with proper teaching skill.
 
See, that's why take every single on offer. You're going to get out anyways. 1 less run to the scorecard by denying the single.
 
Hahahaha this is so usual for Pakistan that it doesn’t hurt anymore.

It kinda feels funny...
 
That run out is a strong case for Pakistan as a nation to be downgraded to 2 test matches. We deserve this humiliation
 
Shaheen is as dumb as they get with the bat. Anyone batting with Rizwan is a circus.
 
Soft signal is another of many flaws in cricket. Why you need soft signal when third umpire can watch replays?
 
I miss the days of Rana Naved, Umar Gul, Tanvir etc just having a go and playing cameos to get the run rate going.
 
comedy all around, Pak tail at its best, man we should always just Dec the inning after 7th wicket loss, and save our legendary tail the further embarrassment and save everyone's time.
 
Courage comes with ability. Babar can play every type of shots in book and he does play aggressively, even on his day Asad is a fantastic driver & cutter of the ball. But, do you really think what Rizwan is doing here is because of lack of courage or the way Azhar, Imam, Shan, Abid normally plays has noting to do with their shot making ability?

Fully agree but Babar cannot never score 25 runs in last over because of lack of muscle power where in case of Afridi its might be possible if he use his brain.
 
Let's see what Rizwan has in him in terms of strokes. A lot to like about his grit and all that, but you have to move beyond that to establish yourself firmly.
 
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