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Pakistan finish on 223/9 at Stumps on Day 2 of the second Test vs England

Not sure about the best at the moment but, factually he is the only Pakistani wicket keeper bastman in the last 3 decades to score a 50 in both Aus and Eng. This shows good adaptability.

He has the best domestic stats for a keeper in Pakistan's cricket history which also gives hope.

Just to add and he has outperformed other Pakistani keeper batsmen in SENA in just under 10 career tests with a 50 in Aus as well as Eng. Previous keepers only had a 50 or two only under one of these conditions but in 5-6 times more matches.
 
Someone should be hung here today. If I had the score, I would have sued ICC. In fact, if it was in USA, someone would have definitely filed a case here.
 
7pm is the cutoff today so play has to start before that or its stumps
 
Not sure about the best at the moment but, factually he is the only Pakistani wicket keeper bastman in the last 3 decades to score a 50 in both Aus and Eng. This shows good adaptability.

He has the best domestic stats for a keeper in Pakistan's cricket history which also gives hope.

It’s a promising start. But we’ve been here before.
 
The hovercraft is on the field though not covered the pitch, its not raining

that's it for the day by the look of the things. just sad day for cricket lovers
 
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This match has been a hot mess.

Disastrous batting, poor fielding, lackluster bowling in patches and some ridiculous officiating.

A terrible advert for Test cricket.
 
If both the teams bat sensibly from here, I see this game heading towards draw.
 
I do not see any result in this match. Umpires and referees are in chai sipping mood.

It’s still not over - still 340 overs can be bowled😝 but I think another 200-220 should be enough for a direct result.
 
This has been one of the most ridiculous last hour and a half you can imagine . . Not a spot of rain, and they've been off! Both the batsmen seemed aright . . no one was complaining! There's no 90 mph bowler either . . did umpires make a mistake by setting a bad reading yesterday costing an hour and a half of play today (and counting)!? absolutely ludicrous!!
 
This has been one of the most ridiculous last hour and a half you can imagine . . Not a spot of rain, and they've been off! Both the batsmen seemed aright . . no one was complaining! There's no 90 mph bowler either . . did umpires make a mistake by setting a bad reading yesterday costing an hour and a half of play today (and counting)!? absolutely ludicrous!!


I heard the new quote "Umpires are from Mars"
 
its just unlucky out of all the places in the UK, I'd least expect Southampton to suffer from bad light being on the south coast.

put into perspective, Manchester which is usually criticised as a venue because of rain, light is basked in sunshine.
 
60% and 90% chances of rain on tomorrow and sunday. This test will be a washout which is a shame.
 
other issue now is that eng could get much easier conditions now although should still be gloomy tomorrow. some rain due as well throughout the weekend into next week.
 
Catching up on today's play right now noticing how boring and monotonous Holding was this morning! Babar was playing some delectable flicks and all he could come up with was "So many runs through the on side" in the most unenthusiastic tone!

While I understand that he's not the one for OTT reactions, at least talk about the darn shot and give credit to the batsman! Boundaries don't come by in the test cricket all too often, but when they do, at least play them up!
 
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so which commentators gve congrats to wasim about 14 august ?

Atherton ended up asking him about the celebrations. From the way WA started speaking it looked like he may end up saying when we got rid of the ‘British rule’ lol. Think he checked himself...
 
I can only laugh at the assertion that we have been unlucky with the breaks.

The only team that has been unlucky is England. Without these countless interruptions, we would have been dismissed for a below par total at least 2 sessions ago.

These interruptions have given Pakistan a glimmer of hope of running away with a draw.
 
Second day's play called-off due to bad light

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Pakistan have the key elements of a decent team here.

Apart from Azhar and Shafiq (and now poor Fawad) everyone else has contributed in this series, and shown some guts.
 
I can only laugh at the assertion that we have been unlucky with the breaks.

The only team that has been unlucky is England. Without these countless interruptions, we would have been dismissed for a below par total at least 2 sessions ago.

These interruptions have given Pakistan a glimmer of hope of running away with a draw.

Rubbish again, all its meant is Bess hasn't got a bowl in 90 overs of play. He'd normally be bowling 2nd session
 
Stuart Broad speaking about the 2nd days play:

"We are pretty happy after losing the toss. I think we have controlled the rate really well. We are a bit disappointed we have not bowled Pakistan out – they have played really nicely at times and we have missed a few chances and maybe not been as ruthless with the ball as we could have been – but we know the team batting second here generally outscores the team batting first so we have given ourselves an opportunity to go past Pakistan is that is our way of winning the game."

BROAD is confident England can force victory despite the weather interruptions...

"It feels a result pitch – we just need the light and the rain to play ball. Even with losing a bit of time, we could get a result. There is a dryness to it that will bring the spinners into the game in the fourth innings. I feel we could have bowled Pakistan out for 170-odd but we are pretty happy with 230."

England have dropped a few catches in the slips this summer, including two in this game. Here is BROAD's take and whether he has an input in where the fielders stand...

"I leave the slip cordon to adjust themselves – whatever they feel comfortable with. I agree that the longer a slip cordon is together the more natural it becomes. We do a lot of practice in training but there is nothing like a game to know which catch is yours. We have moved away from bowlers in the slips so the slips are not constantly changing and we were really good in the winter. I just think the conditions this summer have been tough."

So, STUART, what was the deal when bowling at Rizwan and the tail?

"It’s a tactical part of the game I have seen no one master in all, the games I have played. If you bring all the field up with a batsman in on 60, you can leak 30 or 40 runs quickly. What you don’t want is to bowl five balls as the in batter and they get one off the last. At tea, I think we decided to bowl our best ball as often as possible with the field up but it also gives a bit of a free hit to the boundary for a guy on 60. If everyone is on the boundary you lose intensity and hope foe a mistake. It’s a tricky one. We kept two or three slips in as we felt they were in the game but it is a big ground to defend on as well. It was a really frustrating eight or nine down as you want to bowl as many balls at 10 and 11 as possible but if someone plays it well they can really manipulate the field."

BROAD is on the crest of a wave after a superb summer with the ball...

"It’s the sort of form and confidence you want to wrap in cotton wool and take everywhere with you but we know that doesn’t happen. Even in this game I have felt a bit unlucky and could have got a few more wickets so I feel confident and have a very clear game plan. Try to hit the stumps as often as possible but with that extra bit of nip I have developed I have brought the outside edge into play as well. I don’t want this summer to end, to be honest."

BROAD says he he delighted at the ways in which he is challenging batsmen...

"I judge myself on percentage of leaves – I don’t want to get left very often. I have got lots of lbws and made batsmen play which has pleased me the most. I have executed my plans really well and brought the outside edge into play more often than previous summers, which has added another string to my bow. I think the best out-swinger beats the outside edge and your best nip-backer gets lbw and bowled. I prefer being the bowler who nips it back onto the stumps but it is useful to move the ball away."

Broad has three wickets for the innings and so does Anderson, who STUART says has shown his class in this game...

"We have talked loads over the last week. Technically he has put a bit more of an arc into his run-up which he feels aims him a bit more at off stump. In training he said he felt really good so I think his confidence was lifted a lot from something he worked on in the nets. But he has had one bad game in, what, eight years and I don’t think it was that bad a game. He just went at over two an over which is rare for him. It’s easy to jump on the bandwagon and say ‘is he coming to the end?’ and all that sort of nonsense but we know what a class bowler he is and he has shown that over the last few days."

{Quotes via Sky Sports]
 
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I can only laugh at the assertion that we have been unlucky with the breaks.

The only team that has been unlucky is England. Without these countless interruptions, we would have been dismissed for a below par total at least 2 sessions ago.

These interruptions have given Pakistan a glimmer of hope of running away with a draw.

Anderson and Broad were able to ball almost 50 overs out of total of 86 overs. That was only possible due to constant breaks. Its part of the game but its definitely an advantage when you can start off after each break with your best bowlers (Not just any, two with more than 1000 wickets between them).

I am not saying Pak would have scored 400 if that wasnt the case but, if we talk about benefit yes it was there as we cant deny bowling 50 out of 86 overs with two of your best pacers is a luxury.
 
Rubbish again, all its meant is Bess hasn't got a bowl in 90 overs of play. He'd normally be bowling 2nd session

Anderson and Broad were able to ball almost 50 overs out of total of 86 overs. That was only possible due to constant breaks. Its part of the game but its definitely an advantage when you can start off after each break with your best bowlers (Not just any, two with more than 1000 wickets between them).

I am not saying Pak would have scored 400 if that wasnt the case but, if we talk about benefit yes it was there as we cant deny bowling 50 out of 86 overs with two of your best pacers is a luxury.

Regardless of how England would have rotated its bowlers without interruptions, we would not have batted beyond 4-5 sessions.

We simply don’t have the quality and depth. England have been hard done by here because their chances of whitewashing Pakistan are getting slim now.

They will have to bat quickly tomorrow and look to score around 280-300 runs in 3 sessions tomorrow.
 
Regardless of how England would have rotated its bowlers without interruptions, we would not have batted beyond 4-5 sessions.

We simply don’t have the quality and depth. England have been hard done by here because their chances of whitewashing Pakistan are getting slim now.

They will have to bat quickly tomorrow and look to score around 280-300 runs in 3 sessions tomorrow.

Actually don’t agree with the rotational element. Also, it’s been pointed on air that ENG were often lacklustre going into some of the breaks only to come out a regrouped side in terms of tactics.

In any case, Burns, Sibley and Crawley do not look like 300 in 3 sessions kind of platform people. Admittedly have not seen them enough so let’s see - not saying they will do the accelerating but more the setting up of the platform.
 
Regardless of how England would have rotated its bowlers without interruptions, we would not have batted beyond 4-5 sessions.

We simply don’t have the quality and depth. England have been hard done by here because their chances of whitewashing Pakistan are getting slim now.

They will have to bat quickly tomorrow and look to score around 280-300 runs in 3 sessions tomorrow.

I wasn’t discussing the quality of Pak team or the result of the match. Irrespective of whether you are playing against Ireland or Aus, two main pacers bowling 50 out of 86 overs in a day along with being able to start after each break is definitely a benefit. Result not coming is a completely different matter and doesnt change the fact that it was a benefit for whatever cricket we have seen till now.
 
I wasn’t discussing the quality of Pak team or the result of the match. Irrespective of whether you are playing against Ireland or Aus, two main pacers bowling 50 out of 86 overs in a day along with being able to start after each break is definitely a benefit. Result not coming is a completely different matter and doesnt change the fact that it was a benefit for whatever cricket we have seen till now.

* in an innings.
 
Atherton ended up asking him about the celebrations. From the way WA started speaking it looked like he may end up saying when we got rid of the ‘British rule’ lol. Think he checked himself...

Athers is class!
 
England v Pakistan: Mohammad Rizwan & weather frustrate hosts

England were frustrated by gritty Pakistan batting and more bad weather on day two of the second Test at the Ageas Bowl.

Rain and bad light meant only 40.2 overs were possible as the tourists reached 223-9.

Babar Azam blunted England in seamer-friendly conditions before falling for 47 to Stuart Broad.

Pakistan were 158-6 but Mohammad Rizwan capitalised on strange England tactics with an unbeaten 60 after being dropped on 14.

He dominated a ninth-wicket stand of 39 with Mohammad Abbas which could prove crucial.

Pakistan are edging towards a good score in conditions that may suit their seam attack.

There have been only 86 overs across the first two days - on day two, rain delayed the start by 90 minutes and bad light took the players off at 16:45 BST - but there is still time for a positive result in a low-scoring game.

When England, who lead 1-0 in the three-Test series, bat they will likely face a stiff examination with more gloomy, humid weather forecast for much of the match.

England began the day on top with Pakistan 126-5. They ended it having allowed Pakistan to battle back.

Babar and Rizwan were patient in the delayed morning session. They scored only 29 runs in an hour-long session.

When Babar edged a fine delivery from Stuart Broad - one that pitched on a good length and moved away - to wicketkeeper Jos Buttler, England had an opening at Pakistan's long tail.

Rizwan had been troubled by deliveries similar to the Babar dismissal early on. Instead of continuing with that tactic, England changed their approach and offered Rizwan easy singles in an attempt to bowl at the tailenders.

Rizwan - dropped on 14 by wicketkeeper Buttler diving high to his left off a top-edged pull - punished England with the bowling now scattergun, his five fours coming after he had faced 70 balls.

At the other end, Yasir Shah came out with attacking intent but edged a drive to Buttler off James Anderson, and Shaheen Afridi was run out by a Dom Sibley direct hit for a 19-ball duck.

Rizwan's stand with Abbas lasted 10.2 overs and was a passage of play similar to two seen in the first Test at Emirates Old Trafford, when England also faltered tactically.

After bad light brought an early tea, England came out and reverted to their original plan. Broad immediately dismissed Abbas lbw with a full, straight ball.

Babar's innings shows the difficulties to come

At the start of the day, most would have expected Babar to be the batsman to cause England problems rather than Rizwan.

Babar is sixth in the International Cricket Council Test rankings and had scored five hundreds and six fifties in his previous 12 Tests. The way a batsman of his class was becalmed showed the difficulties others will face.

The right-hander left 30% of balls in his innings, the most in any of his innings that lasted 35 balls or more.

The ball swung and seamed all day and there was notable bounce too.

The wily Abbas will expect to capitalise on the movement when he comes to bowl, while Shaheen Afridi and Naseem Shah, both of whom are capable of higher speeds than England's bowlers, will also pose a threat.

If the weather holds over the final three days we could be faced with a fascinating Test.

'It will be a sleepless night for the England openers' - what they said

Stuart Broad, speaking to Sky Sports, on England's tactics to Rizwan: "If you bring all the field up with a batsman in on 60 you can leak 30-40 runs really quickly.

"But you lose intensity when everyone is on the boundary - you're just hoping for a mistake. If someone gets in and starts playing awkwardly it can be tricky."

Former England captain Michael Vaughan on BBC Test Match Special: "Pakistan are back in the game and England are going to have to fight hard with the bat tomorrow - 223 doesn't sound a massive amount but a 140 all out is possible on this pitch.

"It will be a sleepless night for the England openers. I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight knowing that I had to face Mohammad Abbas on this wicket. He could win Pakistan the Test."

Former England spinner Phil Tufnell: "England could easily be 50-4 on this pitch."

Former Pakistan all-rounder Azhar Mahmood: "If Pakistan can get another 15-20 runs they will be crucial."e with the fielders up but it also gives a bit of a free hit if a guy is on 60."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/53773608
 
Pakistan have the key elements of a decent team here.

Apart from Azhar and Shafiq (and now poor Fawad) everyone else has contributed in this series, and shown some guts.

Events playing out as expected. Tell me this, if everyone else can see it and its blatantly obvious, how does the management not see it? Or what is it they're seeing and we're missing?
 
Events playing out as expected. Tell me this, if everyone else can see it and its blatantly obvious, how does the management not see it? Or what is it they're seeing and we're missing?

Someone should ask this question to Misbah.

I think we are lucky that both Babar and Shaheen established themselves before Misbah's reign started.
 
Let's just hope Pakistan gets very similar conditions to what England got today . . we might have a game on!
 
Regardless of how England would have rotated its bowlers without interruptions, we would not have batted beyond 4-5 sessions.

We simply don’t have the quality and depth. England have been hard done by here because their chances of whitewashing Pakistan are getting slim now.

They will have to bat quickly tomorrow and look to score around 280-300 runs in 3 sessions tomorrow.

Dont think we will get whitewashed here. You predict annihilation for Pakistan whenever we visit England, and you get proven wrong every time. As per tradition, i see a series draw.
 
Dont think we will get whitewashed here. You predict annihilation for Pakistan whenever we visit England, and you get proven wrong every time. As per tradition, i see a series draw.

Armchair “experts” with limited appreciation of the game! Best to ignore.

When one of the greatest cricketers of all time says that a score of 250 will be very competitive on this pitch and in these conditions against an attack consisting of 2 of the greatest English bowlers. 230 - 240 would be a very good effort on the part of a young Pakistan team.

Very enjoyable test match but the subtitle ebb and flow of test cricket is lost on armchair “experts” who view the game from the perspective of an extended T20 match.
 
Events playing out as expected. Tell me this, if everyone else can see it and its blatantly obvious, how does the management not see it? Or what is it they're seeing and we're missing?

No, events didn’t play as the script. In that case Shaheen & Naseem should have been on 6-7 wickets each and PAK leading the series 1-0. I read bullish comments like 20 wickets in 3 Tests for each of them before the series .....

Junaids has a biased view on PAK’s youngsters and he keeps on changing the ground breakers, for example Haider is the latest essence and Faheem is missing from the hype - on a neutral stand, both Naseem & Shaheen were equally failure as Asad & Azhar; in-fact Asad was run-out, otherwise could have taken the game out of PAK’s reach.

Unless we fans starts to judge players on merit without double standard, we will be disappointed time & again.
 
No, events didn’t play as the script. In that case Shaheen & Naseem should have been on 6-7 wickets each and PAK leading the series 1-0. I read bullish comments like 20 wickets in 3 Tests for each of them before the series .....

Junaids has a biased view on PAK’s youngsters and he keeps on changing the ground breakers, for example Haider is the latest essence and Faheem is missing from the hype - on a neutral stand, both Naseem & Shaheen were equally failure as Asad & Azhar; in-fact Asad was run-out, otherwise could have taken the game out of PAK’s reach.

Unless we fans starts to judge players on merit without double standard, we will be disappointed time & again.

TBH, I didn't expect the same with Naseem and Shaheen but did expect that Azhar and Asad were going to fail as 90% of PP probably did.
 
TBH, I didn't expect the same with Naseem and Shaheen but did expect that Azhar and Asad were going to fail as 90% of PP probably did.

Then you see - who are actual heart breakers. We have to be honest with players - we predict & bash a group, then when they fail, we say - I told you .... we hype another group on to moon and when they fail, we run to find excuses ....... eventually our ego will hunt us back to justify our hype with manipulation.
 
Then you see - who are actual heart breakers. We have to be honest with players - we predict & bash a group, then when they fail, we say - I told you .... we hype another group on to moon and when they fail, we run to find excuses ....... eventually our ego will hunt us back to justify our hype with manipulation.

Yeah. 4 wickets in total for the young pacers is just not good enough.
 
Armchair “experts” with limited appreciation of the game! Best to ignore.

When one of the greatest cricketers of all time says that a score of 250 will be very competitive on this pitch and in these conditions against an attack consisting of 2 of the greatest English bowlers. 230 - 240 would be a very good effort on the part of a young Pakistan team.

Very enjoyable test match but the subtitle ebb and flow of test cricket is lost on armchair “experts” who view the game from the perspective of an extended T20 match.
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The arrogance of Pakistani fans is comical. Brace yourselves for more humiliation. I am sure you were celebrating midway during the first Test.

This team is utter garbage and they will continue to find new ways of being humiliated.

There is a huge disconnect between the reality of this team and what the fans perceive this team to be.

Unfortunately, we are not even 25% as good as our fans think.

If rain doesn’t save us, England will win 3-0.
 
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Can’t see a result here.... the weather forecast is beyond awful.

Hoping that the forecast turns out to be wrong.
 
Knowing Paks 2nd inns batting, Eng should just declare with 80-90 run lead to try and win the game
 
Armchair “experts” with limited appreciation of the game! Best to ignore.

When one of the greatest cricketers of all time says that a score of 250 will be very competitive on this pitch and in these conditions against an attack consisting of 2 of the greatest English bowlers. 230 - 240 would be a very good effort on the part of a young Pakistan team.

Very enjoyable test match but the subtitle ebb and flow of test cricket is lost on armchair “experts” who view the game from the perspective of an extended T20 match.

With any other teams bowling 250 is a good score. With the lack of experience and direction in Pakistan bowling, how can one inspire confidence. There is no pacer who can be considered a strike bowler.
 
[MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION]

The arrogance of Pakistani fans is comical. Brace yourselves for more humiliation. I am sure you were celebrating midway during the first Test.

This team is utter garbage and they will continue to find new ways of being humiliated.

There is a huge disconnect between the reality of this team and what the fans perceive this team to be.

Unfortunately, we are not even 25% as good as our fans think.

If rain doesn’t save us, England will win 3-0.

to be fair England is very good in home conditions vs non SENA teams. Plus they have got the perfect balance for these conditions So they are rightfully the favourites to win.

However pakistan is a bit underrated and if they play to their potential pakistan can upset England..
 
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