"Pakistan players should first learn to respect India" : BCCI Source

[kuskash]

So basically BCCI crying about 18th June )

Bhai, you dont know how much damage to Pak cricket is being done by not playing India. People may realize after few years. And you contuniue to be in CT mode. Think about future and outside of CT for a moment.

 

[big_gamer007]

Did they say they are hurt by it, no all they said was if Pakistan want a series, PCB first needs to tell its players to show some respect to others.

I don't see anything wrong in what they done here.

First of all what Hasan did was outside the field I have been to Wagah plenty of times and couple of times crowds have been very hostile.. What Hasan did wasn’t even worth mentioning as something disrespectful.. Off the field he is a human being and can troll or trash talk like any other person.. I don’t believe sportsperson or any other celebrity should all be humble or down to earth different people are different and as long as they are within the laws they can do whatever they want..

Secondly why being Afridi? He is retired if you bring Afridi then what about Sehwag and Gambhir or Kirti Azad or other unknown smaller Indian players who say bad things about Pakistan? People have opinions they can say what they want BCCI should not worry about individual players opinions or off the field actions..

Regarding PCB wanting a series I agree they are probably desperate and want the money and should just fight it out in ICC court and if they win or lose shut up after that..

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Of all the vitriol Pakistan cricket has recieved from BCCI, their players and Indian public, we have been very dignified.

 

[cricketjoshila]

First of all what Hasan did was outside the field I have been to Wagah plenty of times and couple of times crowds have been very hostile.. What Hasan did wasn’t even worth mentioning as something disrespectful.. Off the field he is a human being and can troll or trash talk like any other person.. I don’t believe sportsperson or any other celebrity should all be humble or down to earth different people are different and as long as they are within the laws they can do whatever they want..

Secondly why being Afridi? He is retired if you bring Afridi then what about Sehwag and Gambhir or Kirti Azad or other unknown smaller Indian players who say bad things about Pakistan? People have opinions they can say what they want BCCI should not worry about individual players opinions or off the field actions..

Regarding PCB wanting a series I agree they are probably desperate and want the money and should just fight it out in ICC court and if they win or lose shut up after that..

You are incorrect that outside the field national cricketers can do what they please. They cannot.

Hasan Ali broke rules to disrupt a military ceremony. You may not have any issues with it, others do have.

Secondly, BCCI is under no obligation to play pcb in future also even if govt allows. Thats what they are telling pcb. Pcb players can mock India and do and say whatever they want. Thats their freedom. But then pcb shouldnot come and ask bcci to play series. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

 

[MMHS]

It's turning out to be isn't it. Show's not over yet, waiting for Hasan's statements on this

I won't say anything on this thread - lots of politics, financials involved in it. But, that was absolute foolish from Hasan, he could have done that to his soldiers. He might come up with a damage control statement, but in few months time, this antics will hurt him; that's social media for you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Please...Sehwag gets paid from the BCCI and is actively involved in the IPL. Afridi is a retired player...didn't make the statement while playing the PSL. You saying Indians haven't appeased Pakistanis is childish...seriously..let's just accept both of those guys making statements about the other isn't right...rather than try to justify my dog is better than yours....

Sehwag is a retired cricketer. He gets a pension. Do you understand what pension is?

Sehwag is a coach in IPL like Ponting or Moody or Kallis. Are they all bcci employees?

Hasan Ali is a present cricketer and member of national team. The entire pak team was in attendance when Ali did his antics.

 

[Mercurial]

Forget it, and move on. Not a big deal.

 

[sshakir411]

Sehwag is a retired cricketer. He gets a pension. Do you understand what pension is?

Sehwag is a coach in IPL like Ponting or Moody or Kallis. Are they all bcci employees?

Hasan Ali is a present cricketer and member of national team. The entire pak team was in attendance when Ali did his antics.

I never brought up Hasan Ali...we were talking about Afridi and Sehwag. Indians twisting things to make themselves seem like they have a moral high ground on this. No surprises.

 

[CadPakFan]

Indeed, if you are desperate to get Indian money then show respect towards India. Neither India nor any other cricket playing nation is dying to play Pakistan.

We are simply asking for you to honor the MOU which is the only reason we voted for the creation of the "big three".

 

[BaankeJi]

This doesn't even seem to be an official statement from BCCI. It seems like an individual said something and it was cashed in by a channel. CricketNext is known for sensationalizing matters without any ground. I have taken their bait in past only to be proven wrong later on. Wait till something concrete is said by BCCI.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We are simply asking for you to honor the MOU which is the only reason we voted for the creation of the "big three".

A Letter of Intent is not a MoU.

Btw have you heard of Force Majeure?

 

[CadPakFan]

A Letter of Intent is not a MoU.

Btw have you heard of Force Majeure?

No, I have not, what is it?

 

[Josh]

Why was the bilateral series stopped between the two countries? I think it had to do something with 2008 terrorist attacks of Mumbai.

Anyway what Hassan Ali did was very immature and what this source of BCCI is saying is also very immature.

The two nations could easily benefit from playing each other. The main reason of India not playing Pakistan is due to Mumbai attacks I think?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Unfortunately, you can’t buy respect. It has to be earned.

 

[English August]

And BCCI isn't petty to hold Afridi's statement as a reason to play India. Oh man...the Indians are seriously out of their depth today.

India hasn't played bilaterally with Pak for 5+ years. Played one ODI series in 10 years. BCCI-PCB relationship broke down long before Afridi opened his mouth or this noname player did his drama on the border.

Get a clue.

 

[Square Drive]

Aweee, keep crying.

Nothing better than Indian tears.

 

[zizour]

Saying India is Pakistan's baap is a friendly statement? Perhaps Afridi should make the same comment and see the Indian reaction.

Thats exactly the point he made a foolish statement and rightfully got the flak for it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No, I have not, what is it?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure

 

[cricketjoshila]

Aweee, keep crying.

Nothing better than Indian tears.

The only one crying is Sethi.

 

[BaankeJi]

This report by CricketNext is unsubstantiated. They haven't even named the official. That is a sure shot give away. Don't fall for it.

 

[emranabbas]

 

[sshakir411]

India hasn't played bilaterally with Pak for 5+ years. Played one ODI series in 10 years. BCCI-PCB relationship broke down long before Afridi opened his mouth or this noname player did his drama on the border.

Get a clue.

Yet BCCI threw in the MoU to get Pakistan on the table during that time...the one thing that has become a core issue of today. They also decided to add in a bilateral series when things were arguably at their worst during 2012. Do you see a pattern here?

BCCI is now using Afridi or this noname players's border drama as an excuse to to not play Pakistan or pay up. That is the epitome of pettiness.

 

[sshakir411]

PCB negotiated in good faith with BCCI...BCCI snakes haven't held up their end of the deal.

 

[CanadianG00se]

PCB negotiated in good faith with BCCI...BCCI snakes haven't held up their end of the deal.

PCB never learns eh

They should’ve known that BCCI will dupe them yet they went with the deal.
Perhaps, PCB should learn to do just that and say no to BCCI when they run after them for series.

 

[sshakir411]

PCB never learns eh

They should’ve known that BCCI will dupe them yet they went with the deal.
Perhaps, PCB should learn to do just that and say no to BCCI when they run after them for series.

So you just admitted to being snakes? We've known that since 1947 buddy....though we often try to see if Indians have actually progressed since then only to be disappointed over and over again.

Thanks for admitting though. Must've been either a mistake or you thought it made you look good.

Indian double standards taking the damn win, once again.

 

[kuskash]

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Currently there is different PM, you may not want to discuss him here.

 

[CanadianG00se]

So you just admitted to being snakes? We've known that since 1947 buddy....though we often try to see if Indians have actually progressed since then only to be disappointed over and over again.

Thanks for admitting though. Must've been either a mistake or you thought it made you look good.

Indian double standards taking the damn win, once again.

PCB too are at fault here if they thought they would make fortune out of India.

Indian management are snakes? Perhaps. Tbh i dont really care, my concern is only for my team, rest it doesnt matter to me. So snakes or not, they are doing best for team India and that is all I care.

 

[sshakir411]

PCB too are at fault here if they thought they would make fortune out of India.

Indian management are snakes? Perhaps. Tbh i dont really care, my concern is only for my team, rest it doesnt matter to me. So snakes or not, they are doing best for team India and that is all I care.

So you're okay with snaking others just because you're looked after. Is it the same if you were at the receiving end?

 

[MeanAndGreen]

Sehwag is a retired cricketer. He gets a pension. Do you understand what pension is?

Sehwag is a coach in IPL like Ponting or Moody or Kallis. Are they all bcci employees?

Hasan Ali is a present cricketer and member of national team. The entire pak team was in attendance when Ali did his antics.

Only a 12 year old would get this fired up over a clear light-hearted joke by Hasan. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[CanadianG00se]

So you're okay with snaking others just because you're looked after. Is it the same if you were at the receiving end?

This is pure business bro where every organization is looking after their own interest. As i said, PCB are also at fault for depending on Indian market for their surplus instead of developing their own market. PCB cant control what BCCI or any other boards can or cant do, but they can control their own actions.

As far as If im ok if someone else snake us? Well PCB have done that to us in early 90s and we seemed to have done fairly well since then, have we not?

 

[MeanAndGreen]

Fair enough if some teen Indian fans are getting fired up on social media but would never expect such a reaction from grown men who are governing officials of one of the most powerful sporting organisations in the world.

Like the Sachin and Duckett incident before this, these little exhibitions of Indian jingoism reek of insecurity.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

1. Pensioners are Retired people.

2. Commentators are not bcci employees. They are on series by series contracts.

3. Sehwag is a coach of KXIP not bcci just like Tom moody for SRH or Ponting for DD.

4. Players are under the board not commies or coaches except national coaches.

And at last Bcci isnt asking pcb for anything. Pcb is asking for a series.

PCB isn't "asking" for a series - its asking for compensation after your lot played a low hand and got the fool that is Najam Sethi to sign a MOU which completed the formation of the Big 3.

Its business, IND knew exactly what they were doing and Sethi should have known better. IND has shown on numerous occasions that they are willing to reach real low depths in order to gain power, which I have nothing against.

However, stop pretending this never happened. This isn't as simple as "PCB asking India for series because they are bankrupt" .

 

[mohan11]

BCCI should teach them a lesson for their antics. I feel sorry for sethi bcuz media in india would be thrashing him on this issue.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

BCCI should teach them a lesson for their antics. I feel sorry for sethi bcuz media in india would be thrashing him on this issue.

What lesson will they teach exactly? There are no cricketing relations between PAK and IND as it stands currently and the sun will continue to rise east to west.

 

[daytrader]

You have no right to get a dime from India.

We have every right to demand what's owed to us. If you don't pay up or honour your commitments than we will continue to publically expose your board. This issue isn"t gonna disappear just because Indians wish it to disappear. BCCI will have to address it at one point or another

 

[mohan11]

What lesson will they teach exactly? There are no cricketing relations between PAK and IND as it stands currently and the sun will continue to rise east to west.

To continue snub Pakistan. Infact BCCI never said that they don't want to play with Pakistan now they can make it lot clearer

 

[sshakir411]

This is pure business bro where every organization is looking after their own interest. As i said, PCB are also at fault for depending on Indian market for their surplus instead of developing their own market. PCB cant control what BCCI or any other boards can or cant do, but they can control their own actions.

As far as If im ok if someone else snake us? Well PCB have done that to us in early 90s and we seemed to have done fairly well since then, have we not?

I applaud you for admitting it. Really, that is a rarity. Most Indians blame Pakistan for making India do it. But yeah, it's all business which is fine and good....

This issue won't go away though...not as long as it comes to a resolution. Which is sad...wish both boards could move on and not have to deal with each other. That is the right way forward.

 

[mohan11]

We have every right to demand what's owed to us. If you don't pay up or honour your commitments than we will continue to publically expose your board. This issue isn"t gonna disappear just because Indians wish it to disappear. BCCI will have to address it at one point or another

There is no contract, forget about it

 

[daytrader]

There is no contract, forget about it

You wish we forget it. If you want us to move past this then honour the MoU

 

[mohan11]

You wish we forget it. If you want us to move past this then honour the MoU

There should be limit on begging. This is embarrassing

 

[syedahsan]

Hassan Ali antics were in appropriate agreed. But BCCI has been looking for trivial reasons even before Hassan Ali antics. To play on a neutral venue has always been a possibility. The fact is BCCI does not want PCB to profit from the series for all their right or wrong imagined reasons. This babbling "our money" that our Indian folks keep talking about, let me tell you that in a bilateral series the team that host the team earns money through television rights and other means and the expences of the team visiting is taken care by the hosting nation which is paid to board of the visiting nation. In 1989 you guys were begging for Pakistan to come when shiv sana thugs dug the pitch and threatened the Pakistani team. Pakistan team refrained from travelling and it wss your board running around requesting and begging for a series or I should say in your language wanted " our money" but we were gracious to travel in 1999. My point is times at times are difficult and moments have their place. There will be matches between India and Pakistan when the need supersedes their greed and the adopted mean attitude . At this time India appears to enjoy the upper hand and that's fine but they should know how to control their success as they should better know thst yesterday we had success and today you have it, but not necessarily for ever. Time will decide! but during the moment of high how you behave is what follows you in your lows.

 

[Tusker]

In 1989 you guys were begging for Pakistan to come when shiv sana thugs dug the pitch and threatened the Pakistani team. Pakistan team refrained from travelling and it wss your board running around requesting and begging for a series or I should say in your language wanted " our money" but we were gracious to travel in 1999. .

Pakistan boycotted the 1991 Asia Cup in India and also the 1993 Test Series which was to be held in India. Despite that India visited Pakistan in 1997 out of turn. You need to get your facts straight.

 

[The_Odd_One]

India should be the last country talking about mixing politics with game and earning respect.

 

[GrandMaster]

We have every right to demand what's owed to us. If you don't pay up or honour your commitments than we will continue to publically expose your board. This issue isn"t gonna disappear just because Indians wish it to disappear. BCCI will have to address it at one point or another

Expose? lol entire universe understands the BCCI stance apart from the current PCB management and whole lot of PPers. Even Zaka Ashraf (ex PCB boss) made it very clear that PCB is wasting time and money on this baseless case.

 

[daytrader]

Expose? lol entire universe understands the BCCI stance apart from the current PCB management and whole lot of PPers. Even Zaka Ashraf (ex PCB boss) made it very clear that PCB is wasting time and money on this baseless case.

Yup entire universe understands that BCCI will go back on their word. After this saga, I'm sure other boards will be more vary of how they deal with BCCI

 

[Titan24]

Indian media and govt is so childish and their touch me not attitude pretty silly.

Wagah border show is for entertainment of the crowd of both sides and there is nothing serious there.

For God’s sake Indian side was having comedians there and what not which shows that its a pretty casual environment.

What Hassan did was just for spectators and to cheer up the crowd. Its not at all that big a deal as people and Indian govt are making it our to be.

 

[Titan24]

Isnt Afridi still playing PSL under PCB?

Isnt Sehwag still involved in IPL?

 

[Titan24]

90's team never lost to SL 2-0
90's team never whitewashed 5-0 by NZ
Yes Pakistan heading back to 90's

90s team never won odi series in SA, didnt beat Aus so convincingly in UAE. We just won a champions trophy. Yes it was an awesome team but I have no doubts this team can achieve a lot of things.

By the way what India has achieved which is so called their golden period other than playing tons of matches at home and becoming no 1. Ind lost to NZ 4-0, beaten by SA in tests recently, yes won the SA odi series with half of their side missing but we did that in 2013 against their peak team including Kallis.

 

[Titan24]

Expose? lol entire universe understands the BCCI stance apart from the current PCB management and whole lot of PPers. Even Zaka Ashraf (ex PCB boss) made it very clear that PCB is wasting time and money on this baseless case.

Whats there stance? Did they sign the MOU after consulting with their govt, if not than why not as they according to them cant do anything without their govt permission?

If they asked permission from their govt before signing MOU than Indian govt should obey by it.

Its pretty simple what exactly is BCCI’s stance?

 

[Send1983]

Hassan Ali antics were in appropriate agreed. But BCCI has been looking for trivial reasons even before Hassan Ali antics. To play on a neutral venue has always been a possibility. The fact is BCCI does not want PCB to profit from the series for all their right or wrong imagined reasons. This babbling "our money" that our Indian folks keep talking about, let me tell you that in a bilateral series the team that host the team earns money through television rights and other means and the expences of the team visiting is taken care by the hosting nation which is paid to board of the visiting nation. In 1989 you guys were begging for Pakistan to come when shiv sana thugs dug the pitch and threatened the Pakistani team. Pakistan team refrained from travelling and it wss your board running around requesting and begging for a series or I should say in your language wanted " our money" but we were gracious to travel in 1999. My point is times at times are difficult and moments have their place. There will be matches between India and Pakistan when the need supersedes their greed and the adopted mean attitude . At this time India appears to enjoy the upper hand and that's fine but they should know how to control their success as they should better know thst yesterday we had success and today you have it, but not necessarily for ever. Time will decide! but during the moment of high how you behave is what follows you in your lows.

Lol. Pak was never as big as what BCCI is currently. At best they were slightly better because of having more stars in their team and Indian economy was at all time low in early 90s and late 80s. Before 80s and 2000s, it’s all BCCI. Karma is a dash. That’s why whatever you guys did during the little time you were bigger, BCCI is reciprocating with double interest.

 

[Send1983]

90s team never won odi series in SA, didnt beat Aus so convincingly in UAE. We just won a champions trophy. Yes it was an awesome team but I have no doubts this team can achieve a lot of things.

By the way what India has achieved which is so called their golden period other than playing tons of matches at home and becoming no 1. Ind lost to NZ 4-0, beaten by SA in tests recently, yes won the SA odi series with half of their side missing but we did that in 2013 against their peak team including Kallis.

Yes we played 50% of our games against Windies and 20% against world 11 to become no 1 in test and ODI. Sour Grapes!

 

[StreetSmart]

Well if India is not worthy of respect why are PCB/Fans running after it like hell for past decade.India and BCCI are doing just fine without PCB.

All these statements have come from BCCI in response to the PCB going everywhere they can to get their money from India.

Because like always BCCI lied to get vote in big 3 favor

 

[BreadPakoda]

Seems like a harmless comment by an anonymous entity from India has triggered 20 crore people across the border.

 

[StreetSmart]

BCCI go stop your players before pointing finger on a Pakistani players CRY BABIES like always

 

[Titan24]

Yes we played 50% of our games against Windies and 20% against world 11 to become no 1 in test and ODI. Sour Grapes!

Lol! Bro I didnt talk about opposition I talked about playing at home, even we were able to beat Aus, Eng at home and became number 1. India has played almost all its cricket at home in the last two years except may be playing WI and Srl.

 

[Snow]

So Whats next? Pakistan player should become Modi Bhkats. We got way too many Idiots in India.

 

[USHK]

BCCI with its usual drama in place as usual. We would have expected the same level of drama had PCB backed out from Asia Cup. Refusal to play in India just alone just sent BCCI into panic mode which does indicate that BCCI is just desperately clinging to Pakistan whether it is Asia Cup or ICC tournaments.

It is Pakistan that doesn't need India since Pakistan is not benefiting anything from India. Only India does whether in Asia Cup or ICC tournaments through ICC.

So chalk it up with the reaction for Ali celebratory wicket as usual drama day-time classes.

 

[aliyafis]

While Hassan Ali did what he did. Please also have a look at what Azhar Ali did: https://twitter.com/AzharAli_/status/987697497375150081

 

[Balthazar]

"It may be optional to follow the law in Pakistan, but in India it is mandatory."

This statement was just a savage from the official. Hasan Ali just gave them an excuse to pile up the misery on PCB.

 

[jaywcric]

BCCI with its usual drama in place as usual. We would have expected the same level of drama had PCB backed out from Asia Cup. Refusal to play in India just alone just sent BCCI into panic mode which does indicate that BCCI is just desperately clinging to Pakistan whether it is Asia Cup or ICC tournaments.

It is Pakistan that doesn't need India since Pakistan is not benefiting anything from India. Only India does whether in Asia Cup or ICC tournaments through ICC.

So chalk it up with the reaction for Ali celebratory wicket as usual drama day-time classes.

If Pakistan doesn't need India, why does Najam Sethi begs again and again for bilateral series even after suffering humiliations zillion of times from BCCI. And PCB does get its fair share from ICC for playing against India in ICC tournaments. So yes Pakistan does get benefits for playing against India.

 

[Vildoc]

Only a 12 year old would get this fired up over a clear light-hearted joke by Hasan. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.

It was light hearted for you. The exercise at Wagah border is done by soldiers alone and no civilian is allowed without prior consent. What Hasan Ali did was shameless and cheap. He should show his heroics on the cricket field.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

"It may be optional to follow the law in Pakistan, but in India it is mandatory."

This statement was just a savage from the official. Hasan Ali just gave them an excuse to pile up the misery on PCB.

There's no excuse its made up. Small minded racists. Najam needs to give up.

 

[Vildoc]

BCCI with its usual drama in place as usual. We would have expected the same level of drama had PCB backed out from Asia Cup. Refusal to play in India just alone just sent BCCI into panic mode which does indicate that BCCI is just desperately clinging to Pakistan whether it is Asia Cup or ICC tournaments.

It is Pakistan that doesn't need India since Pakistan is not benefiting anything from India. Only India does whether in Asia Cup or ICC tournaments through ICC.

So chalk it up with the reaction for Ali celebratory wicket as usual drama day-time classes.

It is not that easy. The media rights that PCB got has a caveat that it should play series with India in order to get the full amount. PCB stands to lose a substantial amount in the eventuality of not playing India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Only a 12 year old would get this fired up over a clear light-hearted joke by Hasan. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.

You can defend the antics of Hasan Ali. But you cant tell Indians how they should react.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We have every right to demand what's owed to us. If you don't pay up or honour your commitments than we will continue to publically expose your board. This issue isn"t gonna disappear just because Indians wish it to disappear. BCCI will have to address it at one point or another

No commitment was made. Bcci wont play now or even in future. Heck they even said that we will not play even if govt allows.

Pcb will not see a dime from the Indian market.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indian media and govt is so childish and their touch me not attitude pretty silly.

Wagah border show is for entertainment of the crowd of both sides and there is nothing serious there.

For God’s sake Indian side was having comedians there and what not which shows that its a pretty casual environment.

What Hassan did was just for spectators and to cheer up the crowd. Its not at all that big a deal as people and Indian govt are making it our to be.

You do the antics. You also decide how we should react.

 

[Balthazar]

There's no excuse its made up. Small minded racists. Najam needs to give up.

In Indian culture, patting one's thigh is a very rude gesture and he made that in-front of Indian soldiers. Doing it on cricket field is one thing but to mock soldiers, where he had no business to intervene in the first place? NOPE.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Whats there stance? Did they sign the MOU after consulting with their govt, if not than why not as they according to them cant do anything without their govt permission?

If they asked permission from their govt before signing MOU than Indian govt should obey by it.

Its pretty simple what exactly is BCCI’s stance?

1. BCCI says they didnot sign a MoU.

2. If they did, the govt has every right to stop bcci from playing pakistan. Thats the law of the land.

 

[English August]

Small minded racists.

You'll have explain this a bit more. How's a brown-skinned guy (the BCCI idiot) commenting on another brown-skinned idiot's stupid antics racism?

Do you even understand the meaning of racism?

 

[desirous of desire]

India should learn to earn some respect from us Pakistanis. We wont learn to respect india otherwise.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

You'll have explain this a bit more. How's a brown-skinned guy (the BCCI idiot) commenting on another brown-skinned idiot's stupid antics racism?

Do you even understand the meaning of racism?

We are not all the same shade of 'brown' or Indian. Different country different ethnicities, different culture. If you don't get this then you are typical ignorant Indian. This is called racism. Not going to tolerate it anymore.

Misbah Sharyar era is over. If you can't take it then don't give it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India should learn to earn some respect from us Pakistanis. We wont learn to respect india otherwise.

Bhai we do not need your respect. Stop begging us for a series.

 

[IMMY69]

1. BCCI says they didnot sign a MoU.

2. If they did, the govt has every right to stop bcci from playing pakistan. Thats the law of the land.

Actually you are wrong regarding the second point.

Firstly force majeure would not be applicable as the situation has not changed fundamentally from the time the MOU was drawn up. Furthermore, there are examples of other countries playing sports against each other even in times of genuine war. So you can forget that argument.

The government approval bit would also be discarded unless there are genuine concerns for safety. Now playing Pakistan in tournaments on neutral grounds (even in India itself) discounts this argument.

All Pakistan would have to do is to prove a genuine loss incurred from agreeing to this letter of intent or mou to have grounds for suing or expecting compensation.

The law, thankfully, takes the intentions of the parties and the surrounding circumstances in to account when trying to ascertain whether there was a legal contract or not. So a binding contract does not necessarily have to include a written contract, signed or not... it requires intent and consideration.

BCCI knows it will have to pay. How much is unknown.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Actually you are wrong regarding the second point.

Firstly force majeure would not be applicable as the situation has not changed fundamentally from the time the MOU was drawn up. Furthermore, there are examples of other countries playing sports against each other even in times of genuine war. So you can forget that argument.

The government approval bit would also be discarded unless there are genuine concerns for safety. Now playing Pakistan in tournaments on neutral grounds (even in India itself) discounts this argument.

All Pakistan would have to do is to prove a genuine loss incurred from agreeing to this letter of intent or mou to have grounds for suing or expecting compensation.

The law, thankfully, takes the intentions of the parties and the surrounding circumstances in to account when trying to ascertain whether there was a legal contract or not. So a binding contract does not necessarily have to include a written contract, signed or not... it requires intent and consideration.

BCCI knows it will have to pay. How much is unknown.

Other countries playing doesnot apply to India.

Indian laws allow GOI to stop BCCI from playing pakistan. Bcci cannot go againist that law. So its a force majeure.


Have you heard of LoI? Letters of Intent? Such letters are exchanged between companies on daily basis. They are not binding.

Safety is secondary. It will only come into play if govt allowed Bcci to proceed. Here even that is not allowed.

You cannot give examples of other nations to say bcci must do this. Different countries different laws.

Bcci will not pay. How will icc make them pay? Suppose bcci loses and intends to pay the govt can still block the transfer of money from bcci.

Btw just to quote from Najam Sethi
"
See, right now India has not slotted Pakistan into any of the matches. Our position is that whatever we sign right now is going to be subject to the decision of the tribunal. If the tribunal holds in our favour then the FTP will have to be changed to accordingly."

So even in case of winning they are hoping for a series. Unless you believe ICC can force the GOI nothing will happen.

 

[Balthazar]

Only delusionals would think that BCCI will be willing to pay money. Even if an outside chance of losing this hearing, they will simply say they have no obligations to pay money to it's enemy board.

 

[Runner Up]

24 saal ke choray ne poora India hila ke rakh dia. Well done champ.

 

[cricketjoshila]

24 saal ke choray ne poora India hila ke rakh dia. Well done champ.

If doing such cheap antics make him a champ. Then its good that Bcci doesnot engage with pcb.

 

[RainMan_]

I'm glad to see that PCB is getting a dose of their own medicine.

It's not as if PCB is some sort of angel anything like that. I can even bet my house that Pcb would've done the exact same thing if they were in BCCI'S position.

Remember how PCB tried to blackmail BCB to send Bangladesh cricket team in Pakistan? Remember how they refused to invite Bangladesh to UAE for a series? So I say, PCB deserves to be treated in such fashion.

 

[desirous of desire]

Bhai we do not need your respect. Stop begging us for a series.

Try telling that to your board who is begging for our respect. From the statement of BCCI, It is as if what hassan ali did is a reason for not playing this series. And if it was not the actual reason , BCCI is just begging for the respect from our players in an offensive tone. It was a mutual understanding between two boards and your government just cant respect it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Try telling that to your board who is begging for our respect. From the statement of BCCI, It is as if what hassan ali did is a reason for not playing this series. And if it was not the actual reason , BCCI is just begging for the respect from our players in an offensive tone. It was a mutual understanding between two boards and your government just cant respect it.

One this is a "source" info.

Najam Sethi has been begging for a series. Bcci just showed him his hypocrisy of some concocted goodwill that he claimed exists.

Bcci wants nothing to do with PCB or Pakistanis. But pcb keeps coming back.