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The pitch will break on day 4 and day 5If Shan is going at 100+ and Shafique is close to 70 too with sr…
You know this is an absolute pancake
Pakistan must score 650+ at a quick rate
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The pitch will break on day 4 and day 5If Shan is going at 100+ and Shafique is close to 70 too with sr…
You know this is an absolute pancake
Yeah well we still have to be honest about ourselves. It’s not like we’ve won all of our Tests in the past 3 years or so.Runs banaye to bhi problem or ni banaye to bhi problem .
I agree but there is no harm in acknowledging the role of the pitch and the poor bowlers. Pakistan will need to bat long and stack a lot of runs to put England under pressure. Even though the scorecard looks very good its about par for what type of surface this is ( and the new nature of test match cricket being played worldwide)Runs banaye to bhi problem or ni banaye to bhi problem .
Once pakistan starts playing like Australia, the problems will end.Runs banaye to bhi problem or ni banaye to bhi problem .
Also this'll take defeat by an innings out of the equationPak should take advantage of this start and score big, may be >650 to ensure they dont have to bat again.
Mate this pitch is a scam to save Shan and the rest of the crap lotThis is the test of our mental capacity now. Are they satisfied with their little 50s? Or will they make it count?
I suspect the former but hope for the latter
Well, a little 50 gives Abdullah and Shan another 10 Test matches.This is the test of our mental capacity now. Are they satisfied with their little 50s? Or will they make it count?
I suspect the former but hope for the latter
Rizwan has been treated like an outsider@gazza619 I think the curator for this pitch was smuggled in from Israel. Clear conspiracy to save Shan’s captaincy and keep Rizwan away.
This road was rolled out so Rizwan doesn’t get enough time to cash in and do what anyone else does at 6 with easier batting conditions with the ball gone soft…his 178 cannot be deemed better than Saud’s 160 in such conditions for captaincy, he won’t have enough time.Rizwan has been treated like an outsider
As opposed to a seam attack of Atkinson, Woakes and Carse which is world-class I guess?Pakistan seam attack of Shaheen, Naseem and Jamaal on this deck.
Maybe even I fancy a double ton.
I agree - the problem with our boys is that even with everything stacked in their favour, they’ll make a nice 50 - do a calculation of “will this enable selection for the next 2 years”. If “yes”, time to head back to the pavilion and relaxMate this pitch is a scam to save Shan and the rest of the crap lot
Also, Pakistani batters were very laidback in their approach which led to wickets being thrown away against the run of play. These guys were as comfortable in the first innings of the Bangladesh series where they went for a stupid declaration, then proceeded to collapse in the subsequent innings.The pitches were flat in the last series too. But to their credit, the Bangladesh bowlers bowled with alot of discipline and consistency. They did not allow PAK batters the opportunity to score runs easily. England by comparison have been all over the place.
Yes. Poor defensive approach and they completely misread the pitch too. PAK need to understand that flat pitches at home are a fact of life. It has almost always been this way, with the pitch breaking on Day 4 and 5. The only thing that has changed is the quality of our bowling.Also, Pakistani batters were very laidback in their approach which led to wickets being thrown away against the run of play. These guys were as comfortable in the first innings of the Bangladesh series where they went for a stupid declaration, then proceeded to collapse in the subsequent innings.
They will collapse in this series too under pressure, it's a given.
Pakistan pitches have always been flat. Reverse swing plays a very important role in these conditions.PCB is killing TEST cricket by making such absurd roads !
He deserves to. Nothing wrong with that. Doesn't mean srt wasn't a great player. Root has to prove he can score in aus though to be regarded as the best ever. Or top 5 best ever. Right now top 10 in all time list.Indians be very worried roooot may well break tendulkars record in this series.
Shaheen and naseem will get reverse and run through englandPakistan pitches have always been flat. Reverse swing plays a very important role in these conditions.
Our bowlers have fitness issues, which leads to them bowling below 130 kph. Reverse swing will do nothing at that pace, and our spinners have been worse than the visiting teams for a while now.Yes. Poor defensive approach and they completely misread the pitch too. PAK need to understand that flat pitches at home are a fact of life. It has almost always been this way, with the pitch breaking on Day 4 and 5. The only thing that has changed is the quality of our bowling.
Just want to see some brutal pace and bounce. Want to see pakistan bowlers broken some bones of the English batters and potentially retire them.The pitches were flat in the last series too. But to their credit, the Bangladesh bowlers bowled with alot of discipline and consistency. They did not allow PAK batters the opportunity to score runs easily. England by comparison have been all over the place.
nilIs there any carry and bounce
Just want to see some brutal pace and bounce. Want to see pakistan bowlers broken some bones of the English batters and potentially retire them.
If you can't get them our, hurt them and get rid of them via inflicting pain.
Yes I think alot of issues are at play. But what I am seeing is that there are not even many express pacers in domestic anymore. All the best performers: Khurram Shahzad, Mir Hamza, Mohammad Ali are 130 kph medium pacers. So clear lack of talent too.Our bowlers have fitness issues, which leads to them bowling below 130 kph. Reverse swing will do nothing at that pace, and our spinners have been worse than the visiting teams for a while now.
No rocket science why we are struggling in the longer formats.
Pitch is one of the flattest ever even by PAK standards.@Nikhil_cric now what is your opinion this english attack ?? Have you seen more weakest english bowling attack from past 20 years?
Unfortunately Pakistan does not have those type of bowlers anymore. Just boring milk toast 130 kph medium pacers.Just want to see some brutal pace and bounce. Want to see pakistan bowlers broken some bones of the English batters and potentially retire them.
If you can't get them our, hurt them and get rid of them via inflicting pain.
Yeah that's basically how Lyon got him out in Australia after he hit Lyon for a couple of straight boundaries.Shan Masood's wagon wheel shows that he hits straight against spin but not so much against pace.
Maybe spinners need to bowl wider and slightly shorter and force him to hit square of the wicket.
Ya multan pitch has history of spinning so pak should get around 500 runs and hang on there to see the pitch responding.I have a strong feeling this pitch will start to do something by Day 4 and 5. Spin will come into play.
He will get double 100 hopefully.
Such obsession with Riz, lol.@gazza619 I think the curator for this pitch was smuggled in from Israel. Clear conspiracy to save Shan’s captaincy and keep Rizwan away.
Yea I think so. We shall see. Want to see some reverse.I have a strong feeling this pitch will start to do something by Day 4 and 5. Spin will come into play.
Very poor planning and execution by Pope/English bowlers.Yeah that's basically how Lyon got him out in Australia after he hit Lyon for a couple of straight boundaries.
There is a thing called cricinfo maybe you should check that out and see the last 2 tests of Pakistan in both of which he scored more than 45.Pak pitches have always been flatter than there roads. But don’t have the reverse swing bowlers now.
Has walking wicket Ayub ever scored more than 45 since he started playing for Pak? Whoz parchi is this guy?
W/L ratio = 1.2 with StokesBen Stokes is a X-factor
I don't think so...this slight grass cover will not let it crumbleI have a strong feeling this pitch will start to do something by Day 4 and 5. Spin will come into play.
Shan Masood delivers an above-par performance, hitting his first century in over four years.And his average is above 30 wooooohoooo
Give it 4 days under the baking sun, it will crumble.I don't think so...this slight grass cover will not let it crumble