Pakistan vs England | 2nd Test | Dubai | Oct 22-26 | Day 3

[Markhor]

Can't every Test be in Dubai - this has been a great Test. Action on a regular basis, enough to keep the viewer interested.

This day alone has been more exciting than the 4 days of the Abu Dhabi borefest.

 

[WC-Passion]

Two quick wickets and we will feel the heat.

Not really, Shafiq is in next and he is very good.

 

[Mamoon]

'Mid-ouff'

 

[yasir]

Relax, it's 219-3 tehnically

I am not worried about this match yet, but a trailer of what to expect on green. Chance of 4-0 against England. If we have Amir/Asif along with Wahab/Yasir, maybe we can win one test.


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[castortroy]

Dreading the England tour next summer

I am struggle to see how paks batting line up will score over 150 in any innings

 

[Mamoon]

Not really, Shafiq is in next and he is very good.

But can he handle pressure.

 

[Anchorman]

Can't every Test be in Dubai - this has been a great Test. Action on a regular basis, enough to keep the viewer interested.

This day alone has been more exciting than the 4 days of the Abu Dhabi borefest.

Completely agree.

 

[adnan yasin]

Lead 220-3

 

[ahanank]

I am not worried about this match yet, but a trailer of what to expect on green. Chance of 4-0 against England. If we have Amir/Asif along with Wahab/Yasir, maybe we can win one test.


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Yeah..I get your point but our bowling would be stronger

 

[WC-Passion]

Rashid's action looks really weird.

 

[pak4life]

Typical Hafeez innings - A few good shots looking comfortable then out comes the fishing rod.
From our top 3 84-3 is on par. The real batting starts now.

 

[adnan yasin]

so the short ball continues by wood

 

[WC-Passion]

Dreading the England tour next summer

I am struggle to see how paks batting line up will score over 150 in any innings

Azhar,Shafiq and Misbah have done well in England in the past.

I'm worried about Malik Sarfraz and Hafeez/Shehzad.

 

[ahanank]

Rashid's action looks really weird.

He would never make the Pakistani team.
Doubt his prolonged stay in the English team as well. Bowls really slow!

 

[Amjid Javed]

Big partnership needed here.

 

[WC-Passion]

But can he handle pressure.

Yes he can, people who fall to knee-jerk reactions on PP will tell you otherwise.

 

[WC-Passion]

He would never make the Pakistani team.
Doubt his prolonged stay in the English team as well. Bowls really slow!

Yup, Much rather have Zafar Gohar.

 

[castortroy]

There will be no spinners in England for Misbah and Anderson will have a field day against the line up

 

[Amjid Javed]

Misbah off mark with 1

 

[yasir]

Why they play short pitch bowling so pathetically??

At our level we love short pitch, that's hit me delivery for us.


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[Anchorman]

Whoa! On a side note, I'm nearly up to 5k posts.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Losing Hafeez at that time was massive blow.

 

[yasir]

Mark wood is bowling well, in this innings as well


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[ahanank]

Wood is a smart bowler. Mixes it up pretty well !

 

[Bullet Drive]

Why they play short pitch bowling so pathetically??

At our level we love short pitch, that's hit me delivery for us.


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Misbah & YK are old. Hardly ever play it. Same with Shafiq and Azhar really.

Only good pullers are Hafeez, Shehzad, Akmal & Babar.

 

[ahanank]

Why they play short pitch bowling so pathetically??

At our level we love short pitch, that's hit me delivery for us.


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Short delivery coming at 140+ is hard to manage.

 

[Anchorman]

Why they play short pitch bowling so pathetically??

At our level we love short pitch, that's hit me delivery for us.


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Do you have 90 mph bowlers bowling bouncers at your head at your level?

 

[WC-Passion]

Losing Hafeez at that time was massive blow.

Agreed, but I think the "stalwarts" can handle this.

 

[Big Mac]

Rashid's action looks really weird.

He would never make the Pakistani team.
Doubt his prolonged stay in the English team as well. Bowls really slow!

It's the Shane Warne effect.

A generation of young spinners grew up wanting to bowl just like him and coaches decided that because he was the best ever, everybody should copy his style. So instead of jogging in, they walk gently to the crease. Instead of bouncing and jumping through the crease they conserve energy.

It totally ignores the fact that Warne was a freak of nature who could generate incredible power from his shoulder and wrist from a gentle run-up.

Look at the difference in how Yasir and Rashid approach the crease and you'll have an answer as to why Yasir bowls that little bit faster.

 

[WC-Passion]

Misbah & YK are old. Hardly ever play it. Same with Shafiq and Azhar really.

Only good pullers are Hafeez, Shehzad, Akmal & Babar.

Which Akmal?

 

[Mamoon]

Misbah looking ungainly against Rashid bhai, but I suspect a slog to Cow Corner is imminent.

 

[Anchorman]

It's adorable when people link international cricket to the cricket they play in their daily lives.

 

[WC-Passion]

It's the Shane Warne effect.

A generation of young spinners grew up wanting to bowl just like him and coaches decided that because he was the best ever, everybody should copy his style. So instead of jogging in, they walk gently to the crease. Instead of bouncing and jumping through the crease they conserve energy.

It totally ignores the fact that Warne was a freak of nature who could generate incredible power from his shoulder and wrist from a gentle run-up.

Look at the difference in how Yasir and Rashid approach the crease and you'll have an answer as to why Yasir bowls that little bit faster.

Yeah, same goes for all those hacks in domestic trying to emulate Lala.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Pak 87/3 - Lead 225

 

[yasir]

Short delivery coming at 140+ is hard to manage.

On these wickets it's not that hard.

Secondly they play 75-80 mph short pitch the same way as well. Premeditatedly ducking, no game plane of actually ever playing now it.


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[ahanank]

It's the Shane Warne effect.

A generation of young spinners grew up wanting to bowl just like him and coaches decided that because he was the best ever, everybody should copy his style. So instead of jogging in, they walk gently to the crease. Instead of bouncing and jumping through the crease they conserve energy.

It totally ignores the fact that Warne was a freak of nature who could generate incredible power from his shoulder and wrist from a gentle run-up.

Look at the difference in how Yasir and Rashid approach the crease and you'll have an answer as to why Yasir bowls that little bit faster.

Yeah, kinda like the Saqlain effect for off-spinners.
Kills their careers.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Wood is a smart bowler. Mixes it up pretty well !

He bowls with pace too. Hovering around 86-89mph.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Imperative we get 350+

 

[ahanank]

On these wickets it's not that hard.

Secondly they play 75-80 mph short pitch the same way as well. Premeditatedly ducking, no game plane of actually ever playing now it.


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It's harder on this pitch, actually.
Bounce is uneven.

 

[WC-Passion]

Misbah looking ungainly against Rashid bhai, but I suspect a slog to Cow Corner is imminent.

Weird to have to associate Misbah of all people to slogging.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Imperative we get 350+

130 more runs and this game is in the bag. We should be able to do this.

 

[Mamoon]

Weird to have to associate Misbah of all people to slogging.

He does like to slog, but the idea of taking singles is what kills him.

 

[ahanank]

He bowls with pace too. Hovering around 86-89mph.

Yeah, doubt he could swing much with that action, though.
Reverse swing yeah, but not conventional swing.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Single for Misbah into the gully region

 

[Bullet Drive]

Which Akmal?

Umar

 

[Big Mac]

That's shot of the day, nothing like an on-drive to show your class.

 

[Mamoon]

Younis hits a pacer down the ground for four. Surprise.

 

[Amjid Javed]

shot of the inns so far by YK down ground for 4.

 

[Syed2015]

Is it only me, or did someone noticed, that Misbah wears the old kind of helmet, which exposes the part of head on which Phil Hughes got hit. Didnt PCB took any measures, to provide all players with these helmets ( i dont mean to be a PCB basher), or is it up to the individual liking? Maybe i sound a bit too hypothetical, but with English bowlers using mainly the boucer as a delivery to trouble the batsman, i just came to this thought. Not wanting to foresee any of such incidents, which god forbid no one should experience.

Again, im not meaning to put the attention back to this tragic incident, thus it may be absorbed offensive by some posters - just an observation.

 

[Abdullah719]

Younis hits a pacer down the ground for four. Surprise.

And then walks off for Tea before it has even reached the boundary... like a boss, Team Man.

 

[Barragan]

Wood has been really impressive, excellent find for Eng.

A lead of 350 should be enough, hope Sarfraz is sent in next to up the tempo.

 

[WC-Passion]

He does like to slog, but the idea of taking singles is what kills him.

Sounds a bit like Shehzad in that regard.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Pak 92/3 - lead 228

We need to bat solidly for atleast another 2 sessions here.

 

[WC-Passion]

Umar

Really? When i see him bat he skies the thing to a fielder or hits it to deep mid wicket.

 

[yasir]

Do you have 90 mph bowlers bowling bouncers at your head at your level?

I am pretty good of guy now. But we have seen these Asian players come to play here in USA. They are not good at short pitch, there technique is poor, it's not speed. Too much on the front foot, don't have back foot game. You can control them on back foot.

It was surprising to see international players not so good with short and back of length bowling specially guys from India and Pakistan.


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[The_KING]

Great shot by Younis to end the session. Insha'Allah King and Younis will have another big partnership.

 

[yasir]

I am pretty good of guy now. But we have seen these Asian players come to play here in USA. They are not good at short pitch, there technique is poor, it's not speed. Too much on the front foot, don't have back foot game. You can control them on back foot.

It was surprising to see international players not so good with short and back of length bowling specially guys from India and Pakistan.


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I meant pretty old now in first sentence


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[axl100mph]

Umar

both akmals r good with the pull. in fact kami is better as umar just pulls off the front foot which was exploited by broad in 2010

 

[ahanank]

Sounds a bit like Shehzad in that regard.

Shehzad doesn't do either these days.
The most underrated tuk-tuk.

 

[WC-Passion]

Shehzad doesn't do either these days.
The most underrated tuk-tuk.

Doubt it.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

"In Asia, excluding Bangladesh, only three non-Asian teams have chased more in the fourth innings to win - in 363 Tests."

 

[ahanank]

I am pretty good of guy now. But we have seen these Asian players come to play here in USA. They are not good at short pitch, there technique is poor, it's not speed. Too much on the front foot, don't have back foot game. You can control them on back foot.

It was surprising to see international players not so good with short and back of length bowling specially guys from India and Pakistan.


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Asian players have a strong front foot game; flicking of the wrists is more common than hammering a bouncer.
Hafeez is probably the only one that does it with authority in the team.

 

[ahanank]

Doubt it.

That doesn't mean a thing.
One of the many reasons for sitting out from the test team.

 

[axl100mph]

Asian players have a strong front foot game; flicking of the wrists is more common than hammering a bouncer.
Hafeez is probably the only one that does it with authority in the team.

shehzad is also a good puller n hooker.
in fact he is very strong of the back foot
kami, another one

 

[ahanank]

shehzad is also a good puller n hooker.
in fact he is very strong of the back foot
kami, another one

I meant in the team.
If I had to name, Inzi was good, even Afridi was not that bad.

 

[WC-Passion]

That doesn't mean a thing.
One of the many reasons for sitting out from the test team.

Did you watch the Lanka series? He smashed 4's and then tuk-tuked and then back to hitting fours... Didn't rotate the strike very well.

 

[axl100mph]

I meant in the team.
If I had to name, Inzi was good, even Afridi was not that bad.

afridi? lol
that is where he gets found out, the short ball coz he just pulls off the front foot

 

[yasir]

Asian players have a strong front foot game; flicking of the wrists is more common than hammering a bouncer.
Hafeez is probably the only one that does it with authority in the team.

Azhar Not Hafeez. Azhar has best over all game against pace; sound defense, pull, cut and drive. That's why I wanted him to open in Odis specially after two new balls.

For similar reason I want Harris to be in top 3/4 in test, he has very sound defense against pace. He plays late and watch the ball till end. He need to work on playing short ball, but that is true for everybody.


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[axl100mph]

Azhar Not Hafeez. Azhar has best over all game against pace; sound defense, pull, cut and drive. That's why I wanted him to open in Odis specially after two new balls.

For similar reason I want Harris to be in top 3/4 in test, he has very sound defense against pace. He plays late and watch the ball till end. He need to work on playing short ball, but that is true for everybody.


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azhar cant score off the short ball, can duck n fend okayish which is why he has survived.
haris is also poor on the short ball
in this facet, hafeez trumps both so called best players of pace

 

[yasir]

azhar cant score off the short ball, can duck n fend okayish which is why he has survived.
haris is also poor on the short ball
in this facet, hafeez trumps both so called best players of pace

He does not go after short ball in test, but in odi he does that all the time and better than Shezad or Hafeez.

His pull and cut are superior than rest. Hook is variation of pull, most Asian don't go for it, since they don't have too specially in test.


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[Deewana Mastana]

Pakistan need atleast a lead of 450

 

[Critical Analyst]

Everyone does it now, got to get that sponsors logo on TV.

"Da paisu spee dey"

Means every player nowadays has only one goal and that is to maximize their income in whatever way they can, they're literally dogs running after $$$

 

[Critical Analyst]

These two should aspire to extend the lead around 350 today, then Sarfraz and Shafiq to add a quickfire 50-60 in first session tomorrow and declare.

 

[yasir]

Rashid's pace is pretty slow(75-80), he is not going to cause problem at the pace. He needs to bowl more like 83-90


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[Deewana Mastana]

Pakistan need a good last session

 

[yasir]

These two should aspire to extend the lead around 350 today, then Sarfraz and Shafiq to add a quickfire 50-60 in first session tomorrow and declare.

Why declare?? - if we declare that would be well into the after lunch session, close to tea. The more you bowl on 5th day easier to get wickets.


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[Big Mac]

Pakistan need atleast a lead of 450

"Da paisu spee dey"

Means every player nowadays has only one goal and that is to maximize their income in whatever way they can, they're literally dogs running after $$$

I'm not going to begrudge someone earning more sponsorship money if all they have to do it show the back of their bat instead of the face.

 

[uberkoen]

I think it's about time Younis scored a big one. Can't keep relying on Misbah.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Pakistan need to look to bat until tea tomorrow get a 450 lead and give themselves 4 sessions to bowl out England.

 

[Bilal7]

I am not worried about this match yet, but a trailer of what to expect on green. Chance of 4-0 against England. If we have Amir/Asif along with Wahab/Yasir, maybe we can win one test.


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Amir, Riaz, Junaid/Asif/Mir Hamza/Rahat and Shah will win us the series against England if the batting holds up. If Sri Lanka can win a series, I don't see any reason why we can't either.

As for Australia, if they lay out the same flat tracks that India were served, our batsmen will pile on the runs if they can get over the mental pressure of batting in Australia. Riaz will give Australia a whole serving of their own medicine in Perth.