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Pakistan vs South Africa | 2nd Test | Lahore | 10/10/07 | Day 3

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I'm bored with this series now ;)

lets start the India one with Sami, Sohail Tanveer, Afridi, and Yasir Hameed in the playing 11..
 
Haha… he still has the wood over your boys saffer. Kallis looks visibly scared batting against him and remember when he rearranged Gary Kirsten’s face?
 
I remember when Australia beat up 5-1 in a series 2 years ago....right up until about game 4 I was shouting at south african batsmen....performing about how they did this wrong and that wrong..how the bowlers bowled in the wrong places ..etc etc etc

then it occured to me......hey ! Maybe australia are just better !

It helped me find some peace...maybe you guys should do the same .
 
cant believe we are going to lose a series at home to the saffers.. they are rubbish at test cricket
 
TaZ said:
cant believe we are going to lose a series at home to the saffers.. they are rubbish at test cricket

What do you expect when the best pace man is sitting at home somewhere in Karachi?
 
Forget it. We have only two seamers and they are dead tired as they were hoping for a longer rest. Only by a miracle we will be able to save this test which still means that the SA win the series. Bummer! 20:20 hangover continues and Lawson/Malik have to work thier socks off to make this into a formidable test playing unit. What I cannot see is where is the mental toughness going to come from?
 
a series loss at home to the chokers.. whatever next

Yeah....after all the talk about how we would get thrashed . It's fine . It's not that pakistan are useless...just we are a better side ....accept it and focus on the one day series .
 
saffer said:
Yeah....after all the talk about how we would get thrashed . It's fine . It's not that pakistan are useless...just we are a better side ....accept it and focus on the one day series .

2 pacer, 2 spinner strategy was never going to work. You were always going to win the first test with the likes of faisal iqbal playing

SA is no way a better team
 
And guys let me re-iterate: It's our batting that is going to cost us a series loss not our bowling - when your team cannot score 300 in 3 innings so far you you should seriously think about playing test cricket!
 
NeVerMind said:
Forget it. We have only two seamers and they are dead tired as they were hoping for a longer rest. Only by a miracle we will be able to save this test which still means that the SA win the series. Bummer! 20:20 hangover continues and Lawson/Malik have to work thier socks off to make this into a formidable test playing unit. What I cannot see is where is the mental toughness going to come from?
Going in with 2 pacers was a joke of a strategy from the very start. Someone needs to tell Malik & Lawson that we are not India playing in the 70's. To a certain degree the selection commitee is also to blame for picking Rao, which could be a reason why Pak are playing only 2 pacers b/c they know Rao is no where near test bowler unless the pitch has grass on it. Sami or some other faster bowler could have come in handy. Not having Afridi has hurt Pakistan b/c they have been forced to play 2 pin since Malik & hafeez are no where near test standard as bolwers
 
NeVerMind said:
And guys let me re-iterate: It's our batting that is going to cost us a series loss not our bowling - when your team cannot score 300 in 3 innings so far you you should seriously think about playing test cricket!
But when the bowlers let a team score from 259-7 to 357 & let a tail ender score 46 runs than you know that your bowlers have also let you down. Had Pakistan bowled SA for 270 than the lad would not have been as big as it is now.
 
SA is no way a better team

beat you away ..beat you at home..always have beaten you in all forms...better batting averages and rankings...better bowling averages and rankings...better fielding...

in no way ????
 
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TaZ said:
2 pacer, 2 spinner strategy was never going to work. You were always going to win the first test with the likes of faisal iqbal playing

SA is no way a better team
Faisal or no Faisal (he didn't even play the 2nd test & we are still lossing!) SA have outplayed Pakistan
 
NeVerMind said:
And guys let me re-iterate: It's our batting that is going to cost us a series loss not our bowling - when your team cannot score 300 in 3 innings so far you you should seriously think about playing test cricket!


spot-on - frankly the bowlers have done the best they can under the circumstances -

lack of discipline/temperament/concentration/skill levels of our batsmen is what is at fault here

still a long time to go in this test match...i want to see some figth & passion from the boys
 
saffer said:
beat you away ..beat you at home..always have beaten you in all forms...better batting averages and rankings...better bowling averages and rankings...

in no way ????
he is just going thru the 1st phase: denial :)
 
KA$H said:
spot-on - frankly the bowlers have done the best they can under the circumstances -

lack of discipline/temperament/concentration/skill levels of our batsmen is what is at fault here

still a long time to go in this test match...i want to see some figth & passion from the boys
259-7 to 357...yea our bowlers really set the field on fire
 
deviously~fading~away said:
But when the bowlers let a team score from 259-7 to 357 & let a tail ender score 46 runs than you know that your bowlers have also let you down. Had Pakistan bowled SA for 270 than the lad would not have been as big as it is now.

Granted we were a fast bowler too short but we should have still come close to 350 if not exceeded it. The bowling problem is not impossible to fix (Sami possibly Akhtar could come back or we could groom somebody like Sohail Tanvir), it's our batting as always that is the issue. When Lawson was made the coach I was happy with him but did not know how he was going to inmprove our batting. And this still seems to be the case. What I cannot see is where the mental toughness in our bating line-up is going to come from once Inzy retires from this test. Once MoYo or YK fails, that's it. Can we sriously rely on the likes of Fasial or Misbah?
 
Pakistan needs a whole new work over....pick a few young guys with obvious talent and let them have a long run in the side. This is what S.A have done and now we starting to see the rewards .

Watch a guy like Hashim Amla...he failed terribly for his first few tests but the selectors see he has obvious talent and will stick with him...in years to come he'll be putting up huge scores for their patience. You cant keep bringing in players and dropping them if they fail .

Asif , gul and danish make the back of a decent attack....fine another seamer and you will ne alright..
 
deviously~fading~away said:
259-7 to 357...yea our bowlers really set the field on fire

how are you possbly defending being 90/0 to 123/4 to 206 all out??
 
KA$H said:
how are you possbly defending being 90/0 to 123/4 to 206 all out??
never defending that either & nor can it be defended even if i wanted to! What i am trying to say is that we played poor cricket all togeather. Both the batting & the bowling failed. Its not like we bowled like champions or batted like champions, we failed in both!
 
good morning all...

looks like we are heading for another defeat .. only difference from karachi is this one will only take 4 days.

batting has been poor and so has our fast bowling.

asif and gul are having a series to forget about !
 
finally - and what way does the batsman go? having a huge swish - but at least his team is in theposition to be playing that shot
 
saffer said:
Pakistan needs a whole new work over....pick a few young guys with obvious talent and let them have a long run in the side. This is what S.A have done and now we starting to see the rewards .

Watch a guy like Hashim Amla...he failed terribly for his first few tests but the selectors see he has obvious talent and will stick with him...in years to come he'll be putting up huge scores for their patience. You cant keep bringing in players and dropping them if they fail .

Asif , gul and danish make the back of a decent attack....fine another seamer and you will ne alright..
ah never knew a day would come when a SA would advice us on what to do with our cricket team... :P (just kidding)
 
NeVerMind said:
Granted we were a fast bowler too short but we should have still come close to 350 if not exceeded it. The bowling problem is not impossible to fix (Sami possibly Akhtar could come back or we could groom somebody like Sohail Tanvir), it's our batting as always that is the issue. When Lawson was made the coach I was happy with him but did not know how he was going to inmprove our batting. And this still seems to be the case. What I cannot see is where the mental toughness in our bating line-up is going to come from once Inzy retires from this test. Once MoYo or YK fails, that's it. Can we sriously rely on the likes of Fasial or Misbah?
Picking Rao for test matches in Pakistan is a decision i will never understand, is Rao the best we have for test cricket? If yes than God help us!
 
Islamabadi said:
kami misses another chance
it was a difficult chance, the one in which luck needs to on your side like how Boucher got Kami in 2nd inning in the 1st test, defference being that boucher got lucky & kami got unlucky but if Pakistan are to spring a suprise they need such lucky chances to go their way
 
deviously~fading~away said:
it was a difficult chance, the one in which luck needs to on your side like how Boucher got Kami in 2nd inning in the 1st test, defference being that boucher got lucky & kami got unlucky but if Pakistan are to spring a suprise they need such lucky chances to go their way

kami is unlucky everytime he misses a chance
 
Islamabadi said:
kami is unlucky everytime he misses a chance

& Kaneria is always is the unlucky bowler...... :D
Maybe it is because the true test of a keeper is against spin which suggests Akmal isn't very good.
 
Kaneria to Smith, 1 run, delivery looped up on the off, angling away from the left hander and then spins back in sharply, Smith comes on the frontfoot and looks to defend it, inside edges, Akmal tries to catch it, dropped, a real tough chance goes a begging
 
Pakistan marching to 7th positon in ICC test ranking.....only one test nation below(WI)..

:P
 
Islamabadi said:
kami is unlucky everytime he misses a chance
when he drops a catch that he should have taken then he should be blamed but when a chance like the one vs Smith now goes down than you can't really blame him. Need to be fair here
 
Lead is already to 210 which is more than what we could muster in the first innings. With regards to pace always being our main strength, I think it's time to move away from our mentality. We don't have the 2 Ws anymore and if you look at the Aussie example they excel in both departments which is why they are on top. The batting has always been taken too easily and it's about time we rectify this and set a template for the furure.
 
deviously~fading~away said:
when he drops a catch that he should have taken then he should be blamed but when a chance like the one vs Smith now goes down than you can't really blame him. Need to be fair here

The problem is that sympathy (for the devil - cue the Rolling stones) ran out months ago. No need to be fair now. His time is over.
 
Islamabadi said:
rehman...what the hell u doing
After you stop slitting your wrists...he's taking out middle stump to send Amla back to the pavillion!

Lovely ball!
 
deviously~fading~away said:
Pakistan are marching quite well, unstoppable at the moment :D


(PAK) :112: ................. :119: (PAK fans)
 
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Oxy said:
After you stop slitting your wrists...he's taking out middle stump to send Amla back to the pavillion!

Lovely ball!

OXy that was about an hour ago when he let the ball go through his hands...comon now
 
So PEEVED right now! I was so pumped to wake up for Sehri and now THIS! UGH, Pakistan makes me sickk!

Lead of 217 and Kallis and Smith to go. Wow. Good luck keep lead under 400.
 
66 for 2 (217)

Need to somehow instigate a collapse.

Keep the lead to around 350......time for some true Pakistani magic.
 
saffies should declare already .. they got more then enough runs to bowl us out with :D :)) :))
 
kashif77 said:
saffies should declare already .. they got more then enough runs to bowl us out with :D :)) :))

They are playing for the draw.
 
WOW! I have had a free link this WHOLE time! HIGH QUALITY! But haven't been watchng due to distugusting timings! If I knew that I had one, I would have stayed up after Fajr EVERYDAY to watch for an hour!
 
Hash said:
They are playing for the draw.


booo ...party poopers ..

if this was australia instead ... they would be going straight for the jugular !
 
hopefully someone put something dodgy in Smith's chai
 
Heheh.. they have plenty of time in there hand to bowl out Pakistan, excess of 300 will do enough to declare SAF...
 
Hash said:
66 for 2 (217)

Need to somehow instigate a collapse.

Keep the lead to around 350......time for some true Pakistani magic.


the only magic that will save these jokers is black magic
 
hasbeen said:
the only magic that will save these jokers is black magic

maybe Shoaib's hakim has something to give our players
 
rehman vs kaneria ...

i think rehman is def winning in this series !
 
Hash said:
maybe Shoaib's hakim has something to give our players

or inzamam's pep talk about how he only needs 6 runs, doesnt matter about winning boys. inshallah i will make 6 runs.
 
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