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Pakistani fan was asked to cover his shirt during the ENG vs IND 4th Test. Fair call or unnecessary?


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What do you guys make of this? It's a cringe uncle who has decided to support his team in match that doesn't involve Pakistan. However this behaviour seems quite common in cricket. I've seen lots of matches where people rock up with random flags and shirts, usually nobody in the crowd cares and it's a non-issue.


I'm surprised in this instance security were called in. There usually isn't any violence in cricket matches or crowd trouble so I wonder what the reasoning behind it was.

There are of course two issues - 1. Did the man need to wear the shirt. The reason for that is no, but nowadays freshies in the UK do daft things for social media.

But crucially is 2. Should he have been removed? I hope we aren't turning into football where police are scared of crowd behaviour.
 
I have seen before Indian fans coming to a neutral game with Indian flags/t-shirts. This is a complete non-issue.

The security guard seems like an Indian fella.

I hope the fan will sue them big time. This is harassment and discrimination. It may work in India but shouldn't happen in UK.
 
The fan should go for lawsuit.

A fan can come in with any team's t-shirt. What's the issue? He paid for his ticket.

It is possible some Indian fruitcake complained. This should be a non-issue. :inti
Yeah it's common in cricket and usually isn't badly received which is why I was really surprised by the fact that security and police got involved. I'm not sure what the end result was.
 
What do you guys make of this? It's a cringe uncle who has decided to support his team in match that doesn't involve Pakistan. However this behaviour seems quite common in cricket. I've seen lots of matches where people rock up with random flags and shirts, usually nobody in the crowd cares and it's a non-issue.


I'm surprised in this instance security were called in. There usually isn't any violence in cricket matches or crowd trouble so I wonder what the reasoning behind it was.

There are of course two issues - 1. Did the man need to wear the shirt. The reason for that is no, but nowadays freshies in the UK do daft things for social media.

But crucially is 2. Should he have been removed? I hope we aren't turning into football where police are scared of crowd behaviour.
he is well within his rights.

common around the world for fans to wear sports apparel of teems not involved to sporting events
 
over the top reaction by the authorities

I have a feeling security guard (who looked Indian) acted without authorization from higher-up. Probably some Indian losers complained and the security guard obliged.

An example should be made out of this. The security guard should publicly apologize and he should lose his job. This was full-blown discrimination. :inti
 
You can’t really blame the Indian reaction

the last thing any indian wants while enjoying a cricket match is to suddenly spot a Pakistan shirt. It’s bound to bring back memories of that humiliating defeat in May 2025, and honestly, that would ruin any indians day.
 
You can’t really blame the Indian reaction

the last thing any indian wants while enjoying a cricket match is to suddenly spot a Pakistan shirt. It’s bound to bring back memories of that humiliating defeat in May 2025, and honestly, that would ruin any indians day.
Oh yes , we know who humiliated whom . Don't worry india will humiliated Pakistan for the third time on 14 sep with Live telecast after already humiliated Twice ( 23 Feb and May 2025 ). This time we can see the live streaming of humiliation with FULL HD.

:kp
 
Maybe we need to go back in time and live-stream the 2007 England v India series, like you did all those years ago :kp

Not sure if you're referring to OTT streaming but I remember watching the 2009 Ind-NZ series on pirated stream links (tv) available on the internet.
 
Oh yes , we know who humiliated whom . Don't worry india will humiliated Pakistan for the third time on 14 sep with Live telecast after already humiliated Twice ( 23 Feb and May 2025 ). This time we can see the live streaming of humiliation with FULL HD.

:kp
Will be*
Humiliated by*
 
Oh yes , we know who humiliated whom . Don't worry india will humiliated Pakistan for the third time on 14 sep with Live telecast after already humiliated Twice ( 23 Feb and May 2025 ). This time we can see the live streaming of humiliation with FULL HD.

:kp
The only humiliation was when India asked for surrender after Pakistans reply. Stay in your Aukaat boy hiding behind a K.P empji will not protect you from anything 🤣🤣🤣
 
So petty and insecure of Indian fans really feel bad for these people anyone with sense can see this guy was in his rights he was not bothering anyone, he paid for his tickets and is in his right to wear what he likes. The Indians really need to see the world how it really is, and remove the Indian lenses.
 
While on the face of it, wearing a Pakistani flag T-shirt to a cricket match might seem harmless, the context in which it happened matters greatly.

This occurred during a high-profile Test match between India and England, two of the biggest cricketing nations, two of the largest economies with a long-standing history and large, passionate fanbases.

Security officials are trained to be especially alert, not just for physical threats but also for anything that could provoke tensions or create unnecessary disruptions in the crowd.

Unfortunately, due to a combination of historical baggage, recent incidents, and a generally negative image of the Pakistani community in the UK, Pakistani symbols particularly in charged environments like these can sometimes be viewed with suspicion. This is not ideal, nor is it always fair to law-abiding British Pakistanis, but it reflects the complex intersection of geopolitics, security concerns, and the public perception of national identity. Unless Pakistan as a nation or Pakistanis as a diaspora significantly improve their public perception and trust incidents like these will continue to occur here and there.

There’s also a diplomatic dimension to consider. The UK holds its relationship with India in much higher regard strategically, economically, and culturally. So the authorities are often extra cautious about anything that could be perceived as provocative or potentially lead to altercations among fans during matches involving India particularly.

If you’re a British Pakistani who simply wants to enjoy world-class Test cricket especially when India is touring my sincere advice would be to dress neutrally and enjoy the game like any other gentlemanly cricket fan. A cricket stadium isn’t the ideal place to assert national identity, especially when that identity might be misinterpreted under the prevailing atmosphere. As unfortunate as it may be, expressing Pakistaniyat in such settings could subject you to embarrassment, misunderstanding, or even ejection, as this incident has demonstrated.

This isn’t about suppressing pride in one’s heritage but about reading the room, respecting the context, and prioritizing the shared spirit of the game over personal or political statements.
 
Probably one of them ,They way they are crying today @Wasim Ghulam @shaz619 :kp
irony of indians saying this.....u guys have been crying since the past 3 decades....in face the reason u stopped playing against pakistan is that you couldn't win anything not even in your home turf you couldn't win series

Imagine how much negative the W/L was when even today its in negative and this is the worst pakistani team in history

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Even a shirt is triggering Indians....LOL

You guys need to throw the hatred-filled glasses to see the world.. It is beautiful..
He literally says in the video that no Indian complained about his tshirt :srt

As far as the issue, shouldn't have been removed in my view. If he was chanting anti-India slogans or something, yes, that can be interpreted as inciting potential violence.
 
He literally says in the video that no Indian complained about his tshirt :srt

As far as the issue, shouldn't have been removed in my view. If he was chanting anti-India slogans or something, yes, that can be interpreted as inciting potential violence.
It is a free country, you are allowed to hate indians in a free country
 
It is a free country, you are allowed to hate indians in a free country
Sure. But only until you start doing something to draw attention of the law. So if he started slogans, eviction would be the right thing to do. Not for a jersey though unless that had some India text on it or something lol
 
Sure. But only until you start doing something to draw attention of the law. So if he started slogans, eviction would be the right thing to do. Not for a jersey though unless that had some India text on it or something lol
It's a free country, you can GTA from the law :vk2
 
Oh yes , we know who humiliated whom . Don't worry india will humiliated Pakistan for the third time on 14 sep with Live telecast after already humiliated Twice ( 23 Feb and May 2025 ). This time we can see the live streaming of humiliation with FULL HD.

:kp
Yes we know who humiliated who on May 2025 as shown by the detrimental effect left on the indians now when seeing anything green 🤣🤣
 
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irony of indians saying this.....u guys have been crying since the past 3 decades....in face the reason u stopped playing against pakistan is that you couldn't win anything not even in your home turf you couldn't win series

Imagine how much negative the W/L was when even today its in negative and this is the worst pakistani team in history

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Do you Even know when was the Pakistan last time win a match against India ? Almost 3000 days ago Pakistan won a odi match against India. Your entire generation didn't win a single World Cup match against India since beginning of World Cup's.

:kp
 
Yes we know who humiliated who on May 2025 as shown by the detrimental effect left on the indians now when seeing anything green 🤣🤣
Don't worry on 14 September, there will be live telecast of match with Ful HD so Entire World will see, who will humiliated by whom 😂😂😂😂 :kp
 
I have seen before Indian fans coming to a neutral game with Indian flags/t-shirts. This is a complete non-issue.

The security guard seems like an Indian fella.

I hope the fan will sue them big time. This is harassment and discrimination. It may work in India but shouldn't happen in UK.
yeah but we own the sport, and you especially. respect us or we will turn the money spigot off and starve you.

you can hate it, you can cry, but you will take it.
 
over the top reaction by the authorities
i am upset that not a single other fan in attendance spoke up on his behalf. this is absolute nonsense. had i been sitting by this uncle, i would have called it out and said, fine, he will cover his shirt, but i would swap the shirt with him. then if asked to cover it, i would swap it with the next fella.
 
Don't worry on 14 September, there will be live telecast of match with Ful HD so Entire World will see, who will humiliated by whom 😂😂😂😂 :kp
Ahh right, May 2025 'badla' on 14 September cricket match and then making a dramatic anti-Pakistani Bollywood film then suddenly all wounds are healed, lol,Scores settled, pride restored, Must feel good living in that fantasy. 🤣🤣🤣
 
Embarrassing to wear a tshirt of Test minnows to a proper Test match.

But he shouldn't have been thrown out. That was poor.

Being tasteless is not a crime.
 
Pakistani fans know their team is a Bangladesh level minnow (finished below them last cycle and got whitewashed by them too) so have to figure out their own joy.
 
This so strange, why the heck would the Pakistani dude get in trouble for wearing their cricket teams shirt. I bet there is more to this, he might have done something more...
 
Ahh right, May 2025 'badla' on 14 September cricket match and then making a dramatic anti-Pakistani Bollywood film then suddenly all wounds are healed, lol,Scores settled, pride restored, Must feel good living in that fantasy. 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, Pakistan "won" by getting all their major cities bombed like some tinpot African country (tbh most African countries are way richer than Pakistan. Pakistan is one of the poorest and backwards countries in the world).
 
Pakistani fans know their team is a Bangladesh level minnow (finished below them last cycle and got whitewashed by them too) so have to figure out their own joy.

Losing to Bangladesh is the lowest of lows, I don't understand Pak cricket team they beat Eng at home but can't take care of business against the lowly Bangladeshi kitty cats.
 
Losing to Bangladesh is the lowest of lows, I don't understand Pak cricket team they beat Eng at home but can't take care of business against the lowly Bangladeshi kitty cats.
England win was with massive pitch tampering. Even that backfired against useless WI.

They were smashed in the first test and in SA as well.

Will prolly end up in the bottom this WTC cycle as well. Might end up being relegated from WTC like their hockey team.
 
England win was with massive pitch tampering. Even that backfired against useless WI.

They were smashed in the first test and in SA as well.

Will prolly end up in the bottom this WTC cycle as well. Might end up being relegated from WTC like their hockey team.
Big talk from a fan whose team has won 2 out of 12 tests.....don't let some useless phatta runs fool you. Babar > Gill.
 
Big talk from a fan whose team has won 2 out of 12 tests.....don't let some useless phatta runs fool you. Babar > Gill.
Lol no that is cause those matches were against good teams.

Pakistan is so small ticket they hardly get series against good teams and that too 2 match series.

India's 2 wins are in England and Australia, in venues no Asian team has won before. Pakistan hasn't won a SENA test in years lol.

Gill > Babar - already has same no of centuries and is 5 years younger. Gill has outscored Root in these phattas and root is a greater test batsman than anyone in Pakistan's entire history.

In fact, Jadeja has more SENA centuries than Babar lol.

And your Rizwan is out of the T20 team. So neither will Rizwan ever become a T20 champ nor will the Saim Ayub era happen as he seems to be finished. So both our usernames are bunk. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
 
Big talk from a fan whose team has won 2 out of 12 tests.....don't let some useless phatta runs fool you. Babar > Gill.
Big talk from a fan whose team has won 2 out of 12 tests.....don't let some useless phatta runs fool you. Babar > Gill.
Daily reminder for you and other Pakistani fans

Since 2018 , Pakistan win in Sena Nations - 1

India win in sena Nations in last eight months - 2.

:shh:kp
 
Losing to Bangladesh is the lowest of lows, I don't understand Pak cricket team they beat Eng at home but can't take care of business against the lowly Bangladeshi kitty cats.

In case you have forgotten, India also lost ODI series in BD back to back (2015 and 2022). :inti

Instead of derailing the thread, why don't you condemn the action of this security guard like a civilized human being? :inti
 
In case you have forgotten, India also lost ODI series in BD back to back (2015 and 2022). :inti

Instead of derailing the thread, why don't you condemn the action of this security guard like a civilized human being? :inti

I know sweep_shot bro, that was the lowest moment in Indian history

😔
 
If you excluding your hate against india , this incident has nothing to do with india or indian cricket fans.

This is slapped of wannabe England suppoters from Pakistan, because England literally threw away their identity .

:kp
 
Excellent work by security. When you wear a team jersey or a t-shirt with some messages, you clearly showing your allegiance for a specific country or a cause. In an India vs England test match, what is the need to wear Pakistani t-shirt? What message was he trying to send?

We all have watched cricket in UK and well aware that security will not bother anyone unless there is a reason behind it. India and Pakistan recently fought a war. I refuse to believe this guy was a silent watcher and was not their to instigate. UK police and security will not go after anyone without proper intel.
 
You can’t really blame the Indian reaction

the last thing any indian wants while enjoying a cricket match is to suddenly spot a Pakistan shirt. It’s bound to bring back memories of that humiliating defeat in May 2025, and honestly, that would ruin any indians day.

The guy was wearing world cup 2019 jersey and that too in Old Trafford ground. We all know what memory that will bring.

Oo bhai...maaro mujhe maaro

:rp :kp
 
Oh yeah and the indians felt frightened

Rafale maroon ✈️

The guy in the video clearly saying no Indians complained. It is just that UK authorities dont trust someone with Pak t-shirt in an India game as they are known trouble makers. I can guarantee you, if someone was wearing India or CSK t shirt in a Pakistani match, no one will bat eye lid. Respective reputation of both countries bro.
 
Many sporting events across the world & specially in Europe are facing issues with people raising the Palestine flags during the match. Since they cannot say "we are banning Palestine flag" (for now, they may later state that too), they resort to a more subtle phrase which goes something on the lines of "Spectators are allowed flags & kit only of the teams participating in the match".
 
The guy in the video clearly saying no Indians complained. It is just that UK authorities dont trust someone with Pak t-shirt in an India game as they are known trouble makers. I can guarantee you, if someone was wearing India or CSK t shirt in a Pakistani match, no one will bat eye lid. Respective reputation of both countries bro.
Is this the same test where the English refused to shake hands with the indians 🤔
 
The fan should go for lawsuit.

A fan can come in with any team's t-shirt. What's the issue? He paid for his ticket.

It is possible some Indian fruitcake complained. This should be a non-issue. :inti

Yes he should file a law suit if he really innocent. However, he will not as that will lead to investigation and his real motive will be caught. That may risk in visa cancellation and back to pindi. So he will not take such risk.
 
Lol no that is cause those matches were against good teams.

Pakistan is so small ticket they hardly get series against good teams and that too 2 match series.

India's 2 wins are in England and Australia, in venues no Asian team has won before. Pakistan hasn't won a SENA test in years lol.

Gill > Babar - already has same no of centuries and is 5 years younger. Gill has outscored Root in these phattas and root is a greater test batsman than anyone in Pakistan's entire history.

In fact, Jadeja has more SENA centuries than Babar lol.

And your Rizwan is out of the T20 team. So neither will Rizwan ever become a T20 champ nor will the Saim Ayub era happen as he seems to be finished. So both our usernames are bunk. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Sayon, I mentioned earlier as well. Rizwan is already a T20 Champ in PSL - get some cricket knowledge. He is unlucky so far in T20I but he is still one of the GOATs there. How many T20 WCs did Adam Gilchrist and Sachin Tendulker win? Thanks.
 
indians have shown up to plenty of matches in SENA countries wearing india jerseys while pakistan playing home team. it’s only the Indians who get all paranoid and get scared at the sight of a Pakistani shirt
Bewal should send some donations to Inds so that they can also buy a Pakistani tshirt.
 
Sayon, I mentioned earlier as well. Rizwan is already a T20 Champ in PSL - get some cricket knowledge. He is unlucky so far in T20I but he is still one of the GOATs there. How many T20 WCs did Adam Gilchrist and Sachin Tendulker win? Thanks.
Sachin and Gilly have won IPL titles, far superior to Paisa Shortage League.
 
indians have shown up to plenty of matches in SENA countries wearing india jerseys while pakistan playing home team. it’s only the Indians who get all paranoid and get scared at the sight of a Pakistani shirt
It is the Manchester authorities who stopped them.

I mean, can you blame them?

Manchester has had a history with these things in public gatherings like concerts. :sneaky:

Mancurians just don't want to take any risks.
 
Had to log back in specially for this.

Match Day Guide. Refer page 4 of 6.


Only Lancashire, England, and India replica shirts were allowed during the match. The Pakistani fan should have read and followed the rules.

/ End thread.
Unless i have missed something why didn’t 3 security guards plus 2 police officers mention this to the gentleman on the video to save this fiasco
 
Had to log back in specially for this.

Match Day Guide. Refer page 4 of 6.


Only Lancashire, England, and India replica shirts were allowed during the match. The Pakistani fan should have read and followed the rules.

/ End thread.
Good find. I didn't know there were such rules on the grounds. It's a very common sight in cricket, but if those are Lancashire's rules, then that's that.
 
England are a disgraceful team. I'm glad India managed to draw this Test match. This is as good as a loss for England
 
Ideally a fan can wear any jersey he likes, no issues.

Non Resident Pak crowd from what I am told during WT20 in NY was extremely inappropriate and racist. I mean it’s one thing to troll cricketers or even take below the belt potshots but I heard it goes personal in SENA venues like ethnic and even religion slurs . Not the most shocking thing though.

Maybe pre-emptive from security to prevent any such nuisance or what are the odds that the guy was just minding his business. I have my doubts.

However in principle I don’t see anything wrong in wearing you’re fav teams jersey to any sporting event.👍
 
Good find. I didn't know there were such rules on the grounds. It's a very common sight in cricket, but if those are Lancashire's rules, then that's that.
Watched games across several grounds in the UK. They have all sorts of rules. Lord’s is the strictest.
 
People are often oblivious to their own prejudices while alleging discrimination.

I agree that there is absolutely no reason to eject that fan on the basis of the shirt he was wearing. It’s a disgrace.

But those of you claiming the (even that is so far assumed) Indian origins of the security guard as a trigger- do you even realise how prejudiced you yourself are?
 
Not sure the issue with this. Fans can wear any shirt.

Authorities are wrong here.
Knowing the hatred between both countries, its not a smart thing to do especially when everyone expected India to loose easily after bazball onslaught. Only a thick skinned attention seeking troll will do it.if I attend a aus -pak match in Sydney , I will not jump like a clown at the fall of pak wickets unless am in middle of Aussies. You can't expect logic and sense to prevail when ur team is looking to loose quite badly. Add alcohol effect on top of it.
 
Knowing the hatred between both countries, its not a smart thing to do especially when everyone expected India to loose easily after bazball onslaught. Only a thick skinned attention seeking troll will do it.if I attend a aus -pak match in Sydney , I will not jump like a clown at the fall of pak wickets unless am in middle of Aussies. You can't expect logic and sense to prevail when ur team is looking to loose quite badly. Add alcohol effect on top of it.
Shows your small thinking. No wonder you are celebrating Math olympiad or whatever it was.
 
Knowing the hatred between both countries, its not a smart thing to do especially when everyone expected India to loose easily after bazball onslaught. Only a thick skinned attention seeking troll will do it.if I attend a aus -pak match in Sydney , I will not jump like a clown at the fall of pak wickets unless am in middle of Aussies. You can't expect logic and sense to prevail when ur team is looking to loose quite badly. Add alcohol effect on top of it.
I have seen some Indo-Pak games and there has never been hatred ( of course, recent events may have changed that), there has been singing, dancing, some mild taunting, but also food sharing, respect for the elderly and kids and overall a nice atmosphere in most instances.

I hope that we don't suddenly have situations like in football where fans are fighting or need to be segregated. Part of the cricket experience is enjoying it with others.
 
I have seen some Indo-Pak games and there has never been hatred ( of course, recent events may have changed that), there has been singing, dancing, some mild taunting, but also food sharing, respect for the elderly and kids and overall a nice atmosphere in most instances.

I hope that we don't suddenly have situations like in football where fans are fighting or need to be segregated. Part of the cricket experience is enjoying it with others.
Pak fans were large respectful towards Indians in aus. I have attended few pak matches and there was no issue.but after may conflict, its still testing waters. So I will ask suggest a little bit of precaution for any one.if everything is fine like before, we should be good.Any how i dont expect that we behave like hooligans apart from pulling legs or usual light hearted banter
 
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