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Pakistan's chances of reaching the semi-finals stage of the ICC World Cup 2023?

Will Pakistan somehow qualify for the semi-finals of the ICC World Cup 2023?

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Okay if we have to do it...we have to do it. I want India to beat Pakistan twice in this tournament and went onto win the cup.

Come on Pakistan, meet us in Semi Final again to have the well deserving 9-0

#JustBringIt

@Devadwal @Mesozoic are you guys ready?
 
If we are knocked out because of rain just like in 2019, it would be too much of a heartbreak to bear

Hopefully rain doesn't play spoil-sport on Saturday and we win InshAllah

If we win by 83 runs or more, we are going through. Our game against England is After NZ play SL, and would know the exact margin of defeat we would have to inflict on England to go through
 
Rajdeep said:
Okay if we have to do it...we have to do it. I want India to beat Pakistan twice in this tournament and went onto win the cup.

Come on Pakistan, meet us in Semi Final again to have the well deserving 9-0

#JustBringIt

@Devadwal @Mesozoic are you guys ready?
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We are getting ahead of ourselves like India vs SA will go India's way.
 
Rana said:
Pak v NZ is first on Saturday

That’s why I ask. How many does Pakistan need or how quickly do they need those runs for Pak to go ahead of NZ on nrr?
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Refer to this page and do the math. Before NZ-RSA game, it said NZ had faced 279 overs. Even though they faced only 35, it counts as 50. Hence it reflects 329 overs at the end of the game.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
We are getting ahead of ourselves like India vs SA will go India's way.
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India will not face SA in semi final. We will finish top of the group as no one can beat us in group stages.

Table topper will face 4th team which can only be Pakistan, Afghanistan or a certain team who intentionally opted to bowl first today without any unexplicable reason.
 
All hinges on Pak beating NZ in do or die but then NRR still comes into play so I'm not having any expectations for now.
 
At this stage would take a 2 run victory over NZ as well, what if NZ have only 11 fit players yet we are unable to win against them
 
Rajdeep said:
India will not face SA in semi final. We will finish top of the group as no one can beat us in group stages.

Table topper will face 4th team which can only be Pakistan, Afghanistan or a certain team who intentionally opted to bowl first today without any unexplicable reason.
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Yes, if Pak somehow made it to semis, then better to lose there than in final.
 
Just in case people are wondering..

Pak scores 300 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.11, NZ +0.29
Pak scores 350 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.24, NZ +0.16
NZ scores 250 and Pak chase in 38 overs: Pak +0.16, NZ +0.25
NZ scores 300 and Pak chase in 42 overs: Pak +0.10, NZ +0.31

Though the team should decide toss based on their assessment of the pitch/conditions/team's morale/plan, it's obvious that there's more NRR advantage to gain if you bat first and post a big total. This is especially true if you don't have the kind of line-up that can chase a score quickly - for example, if NZ post 300, we might not even win the game if we try to chase it in 40 overs.
 
zulfiqar said:
Just in case people are wondering..

Pak scores 300 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.11, NZ +0.29
Pak scores 350 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.24, NZ +0.16
NZ scores 250 and Pak chase in 38 overs: Pak +0.16, NZ +0.25
NZ scores 300 and Pak chase in 42 overs: Pak +0.10, NZ +0.31

Though the team should decide toss based on their assessment of the pitch/conditions/team's morale/plan, it's obvious that there's more NRR advantage to gain if you bat first and post a big total. This is especially true if you don't have the kind of line-up that can chase a score quickly - for example, if NZ post 300, we might not even win the game if we try to chase it in 40 overs.
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So yeah, I'd say focus on the game first. But if the team XI back themselves to try to post a big total up front, I'd definitely recommend that option! Though Pakistan has had more success chasing this tournament (we lost only 1 game while chasing vs Aus), they should take encouragement from watching other teams use scoreboard pressure to bundle sides out cheaply in the 2nd innings (SA v NZ, Ind v ENG, etc.)
 
zulfiqar said:
Just in case people are wondering..

Pak scores 300 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.11, NZ +0.29
Pak scores 350 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.24, NZ +0.16
NZ scores 250 and Pak chase in 38 overs: Pak +0.16, NZ +0.25
NZ scores 300 and Pak chase in 42 overs: Pak +0.10, NZ +0.31

Though the team should decide toss based on their assessment of the pitch/conditions/team's morale/plan, it's obvious that there's more NRR advantage to gain if you bat first and post a big total. This is especially true if you don't have the kind of line-up that can chase a score quickly - for example, if NZ post 300, we might not even win the game if we try to chase it in 40 overs.
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As if Pakistan understands rr lol. Only fakhar does
 
Kianig89 said:
At this stage would take a 2 run victory over NZ as well, what if NZ have only 11 fit players yet we are unable to win against them
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Wouldn't be the first time. Remember the Pindi Test against Eng when the visitors were struck by food poisoning. We decided to be generous hosts and fielded 4 debutants. That's what led to the 506 on the first day..
 
Pakistan had literally no game plan till AFG game, after that game the hue and cry and harakiri in media made Mickey and Co. work day and night to devise a strategy and they inducted Wasim in the side yet we lost by 1 wicket albeit an unlucky lbw decision, a stitch in time save nine if and if only we've had woken up earlier
 
I'll say we have great chance if we can cash that. We need to find right combination against NZ first forget everything else. We still due a team performance rather than individuals.
As spinners are not doing anything.
Can we go with 4 pacers?
Right combination is the key here.
 
Saj said:
Win your games and you don't have to rely on others.

What a mess this World Cup has been so far for Pakistan.
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It was an even messier mess when Pak actually won the World Cup in 1992.

Miracles brought us to the semi and final.
 
Hawkeye said:
It was an even messier mess when Pak actually won the World Cup in 1992.

Miracles brought us to the semi and final.
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We didn't lose to a minnow team (Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe) in that WC.

We only lost to India, West Indies and South Africa ( wasn't born then but have read that we were winning the South Africa game but then the rain law at that time was pathetic and highly favored the team batting first) otherwise would have won against South Africa as well.

This time we have lost 4 games already and 1 of them against a minnow team.

Really really hope we go through though. But the 1992 stories are more exaggeration than fact.
 
zulfiqar said:
Just in case people are wondering..

Pak scores 300 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.11, NZ +0.29
Pak scores 350 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.24, NZ +0.16
NZ scores 250 and Pak chase in 38 overs: Pak +0.16, NZ +0.25
NZ scores 300 and Pak chase in 42 overs: Pak +0.10, NZ +0.31

Though the team should decide toss based on their assessment of the pitch/conditions/team's morale/plan, it's obvious that there's more NRR advantage to gain if you bat first and post a big total. This is especially true if you don't have the kind of line-up that can chase a score quickly - for example, if NZ post 300, we might not even win the game if we try to chase it in 40 overs.
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More posts like this required on this forum.

Highly informative NRR scenarios. Thank youu
 
How can Pakistan overtake New Zealand on Net Run Rate?

To do so, Pakistan will need to win with roughly 15 overs to spare if batting second, or by around 84 runs if batting first. There is some flexibility in these numbers, dependent on the precise totals in the game. Essentially, if batting first, the more runs Pakistan score, the bigger their margin needs to be, and if batting second, the lower the target, the quicker the chase needs to be. If batting second, Pakistan can also give themselves more leeway by surpassing New Zealand’s total by more than one run, if the winning hit is a boundary. This also all assumes that the game is not rain-affected.

However, while overtaking New Zealand’s net run rate would be a boost for Pakistan, they can still qualify for the semi-finals even if they don’t do so in this game. Pakistan’s last group game is after New Zealand’s, so they will go into that match – against current table-proppers-up England – knowing exactly what they need to do to leapfrog whoever is above them.
 
Rajdeep said:
India will not face SA in semi final. We will finish top of the group as no one can beat us in group stages.

Table topper will face 4th team which can only be Pakistan, Afghanistan or a certain team who intentionally opted to bowl first today without any unexplicable reason.
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I read in one of the forums which highlighted the tactical side of NZ bowling first. They are confident of winning against SL and fancy their chances against India in semi final. If they were to be third in the points table, they would be facing AUS with less chance of winning.
 
mikeypbadana86 said:
I read in one of the forums which highlighted the tactical side of NZ bowling first. They are confident of winning against SL and fancy their chances against India in semi final. If they were to be third in the points table, they would be facing AUS with less chance of winning.
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This is a ridiculous theory , risking knockout to avoid Australia
 
mikeypbadana86 said:
I read in one of the forums which highlighted the tactical side of NZ bowling first. They are confident of winning against SL and fancy their chances against India in semi final. If they were to be third in the points table, they would be facing AUS with less chance of winning.
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Lol. So NZ would rather take the chance of not qualifying at all as opposed having to face Australia in the semis. As things stand, NZ can get knocked out even if they beat SL on NRR.
 
Saanji said:
England is not waking up to anything. They should finish dead last.
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England are due couple of wins. They aren't a bad team, just playing bad cricket, similar to Pakistan couple of games ago.
 
saqib.rai said:
If we are knocked out because of rain just like in 2019, it would be too much of a heartbreak to bear

Hopefully rain doesn't play spoil-sport on Saturday and we win InshAllah

If we win by 83 runs or more, we are going through. Our game against England is After NZ play SL, and would know the exact margin of defeat we would have to inflict on England to go through
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Even if it rains there is still a very good chance of shortened match in BLR. Chinnaswamy has probably the best drainage system of all the stadiums in india. In shortened game Pak has a better chance as they are a much better T20 team. So dream on
 
Rajdeep said:
Okay if we have to do it...we have to do it. I want India to beat Pakistan twice in this tournament and went onto win the cup.

Come on Pakistan, meet us in Semi Final again to have the well deserving 9-0

#JustBringIt

@Devadwal @Mesozoic are you guys ready?
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Pakistan aren't making it. They'll certainly lose one of the games against NZ/Eng and NZ are way too professional a side to not beat Sri Lanka in a must win game.

It's going to be a repeat of 2019 Manchester once again in Mumbai.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
If NZ bowled out for 200 runs Pakistan roughly has to get in 39 overs as per my calculation. Soon someone will publish these details.
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Win by 85 runs margin or chase target within 35 overs will see Pakistan go above Newzealand on NRR.

With all being said rain looms for a wash out of this match
 
zulfiqar said:
Just in case people are wondering..

Pak scores 300 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.11, NZ +0.29
Pak scores 350 and NZ scores 250 in reply: Pak +0.24, NZ +0.16
NZ scores 250 and Pak chase in 38 overs: Pak +0.16, NZ +0.25
NZ scores 300 and Pak chase in 42 overs: Pak +0.10, NZ +0.31

Though the team should decide toss based on their assessment of the pitch/conditions/team's morale/plan, it's obvious that there's more NRR advantage to gain if you bat first and post a big total. This is especially true if you don't have the kind of line-up that can chase a score quickly - for example, if NZ post 300, we might not even win the game if we try to chase it in 40 overs.
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Great post. What would be the NRR scenarios in a shortened game, say 20-30 overs?
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
I don't want to face nz in semis. Hope pak/ afg sneak in
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We beat them at Dharamshala comfortably despite our bowling and fielding not at their best. In Mumbai, we can absolutely put them to the sword. Only teams we should be worried about are Australia and South Africa.
 
Wasim Akram on Pakistan vs England game:

“They (Pakistan) can only do one thing. They just have to win their games and then hope and pray that other teams provide favorable results. Because those things aren't in your control. If New Zealand loses by a big margin, again, that's not in Pakistan's control. They should focus on their cricket. The next two games, against big teams,”

“I'm scared of England because they are out. They are going to play fearless cricket. They have nothing to lose. They will be aggressive and will intend to spoil someone's party.”​
 
There is 80% chance of rain (Thunders storms) in Bangalore on Saturday evening!
 
BouncerGuy said:
Wasim Akram on Pakistan vs England game:

“They (Pakistan) can only do one thing. They just have to win their games and then hope and pray that other teams provide favorable results. Because those things aren't in your control. If New Zealand loses by a big margin, again, that's not in Pakistan's control. They should focus on their cricket. The next two games, against big teams,”

“I'm scared of England because they are out. They are going to play fearless cricket. They have nothing to lose. They will be aggressive and will intend to spoil someone's party.”​
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Wrong. England has ct qualification at stake
 
PAK, OZ, NZ, AFG are all vying for those last 2 SF spots.

SA have 99.99 % qualified with their ridiculous NRR and India, too, are pretty much through and will confirm qualification with 1 more win.

But considering OZ have AFG and BD left, it's actually just 1 spot I guess.
 
There shouldn't be any rain and pak's remaining matches must happen, let's see if they can win them. pak fans shouldn't get any excuse. i really think this pak team doesn't deserve a semi final berth. Never bought their fake 1 ranking which they have attained by playing weaker teams and B sides. before reaching 1, this pak was at 5 - 6 for some time in the recent years, which is their appropriate position.
 
If sl wins today, that's huge problem for pak. Sl remaining matches are with ban, nz.. They will easily defeat ban and for nz match if nz wins pak will be out and if sl wins then nnr comes into the equation.
So this match outcome is more important for pak than for India.
 
jiduguravindra said:
If sl wins today, that's huge problem for pak. Sl remaining matches are with ban, nz.. They will easily defeat ban and for nz match if nz wins pak will be out and if sl wins then nnr comes into the equation.
So this match outcome is more important for pak than for India.
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india will crush sl
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
We haven't played as bad as England especially considering they are defending champions.
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England is the biggest disappointment in this cup however you have to realise bairstow, Stokes, and Root haven't played since 2019, barely played,

Their all at the end of their rope and have no experience in a nutshell.

Malan and butler not kicking off is a suprise though, since malan for me is medicore but I didn't expect him to fail so miserably needed one good game and I didn't expect Butler to be like this.
 
Does anyone know what the scenarios would be if Pakistan was to win in regards to what they would then need in the England game ? Or is it too early for those yet
 
If Pakistan doesnt make it due to run rate then we all know who is to blame. We could have easily sent Ifti at number 3, but there is a certain gentleman who would not leave his favourite batting position even on gun point.

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TANKZY said:
Does anyone know what the scenarios would be if Pakistan was to win in regards to what they would then need in the England game ? Or is it too early for those yet
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To early to think about stipulations in England game. Pakistan need to beat NZ 1st.
 
With SL playing they way they are, we will really have to thrash NZ
 
Kianig89 said:
Pakistan had literally no game plan till AFG game, after that game the hue and cry and harakiri in media made Mickey and Co. work day and night to devise a strategy and they inducted Wasim in the side yet we lost by 1 wicket albeit an unlucky lbw decision, a stitch in time save nine if and if only we've had woken up earlier
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Exactly , but still not there yet.. Bowling Haris rauf in PP for no reason... He gets hammered in his first over for boundaries for fun , as he bowls outside off or bouncer with the field restrictions getting spanked all over the park..
Feels very bad on him after bowiing 1000+ balls and with the team for 3 years havent learnt the art of swing bowling (either inswing or outswing)

Bring him only after 12th over... feels like they badly miss Imad Wasim here who could have done that role which they are trying with Ifthikar, and well he could have easily covered ifthikhar in both batting and bowling...
 
mominsaigol said:
England is the biggest disappointment in this cup however you have to realise bairstow, Stokes, and Root haven't played since 2019, barely played,

Their all at the end of their rope and have no experience in a nutshell.

Malan and butler not kicking off is a suprise though, since malan for me is medicore but I didn't expect him to fail so miserably needed one good game and I didn't expect Butler to be like this.
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They should have taken Roy instead of Brook and play Malan at 3 and Root at 4 , should have gone with experience...
Alex Hales got them to win the T20 WC , should have taken him as backup opener...
 
As the match is in the Chinnaswamy Stadium, with the dimensions and the pitch, wont a big score be more than likely rather than a 250-300, as a smaller stadium is more beneficial for NRR? So chases of around 300-350 more likely.
 
Pakistan may beat New Zealand by a margin but if New Zealand thrashes Sri Lanka, NZ's NRR could be out of reach again, before Pakistan's final game against the English. So Pakistan beating both NZ and ENG could be totally irrelevant.
 
Dawood_02 said:
As the match is in the Chinnaswamy Stadium, with the dimensions and the pitch, wont a big score be more than likely rather than a 250-300, as a smaller stadium is more beneficial for NRR? So chases of around 300-350 more likely.
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New Zealand will play at the same stadium against Lanka
 
The level of cricket other teams are playing, such as South Africa, New Zealand and India.

I see no point of Pakistan to play Semi- Final
 
The way SL are playing NZ may give them a real beating, and sky rocket their net run rate. Just gotta hope for a once in a blue moon performance from the Lankans, which to be fair they might knowing they want to qualify for the CT25. But I don’t see Pak going through on NRR, Sri Lanka have got to win that match.
 
If pak does quality by chance, they'll be facing India at Mumbai ground that SL faced today xD.

We can see who's pace is best or batting for that matter.

But nz losing to pak and winning remaining match still means pak are out of wc.

I'd day 25% chance to qualify.
 
If Pakistan doesn't make it - it will all come down to the slow innings from Babar against Afg where they ended 50-60 short. Came close to SA but that was 50-50.
Also, i think they failed to play 50 overs in more than couple of matches. That gives the NRR extra negative hit.
 
gazza619 said:
If Pakistan doesnt make it due to run rate then we all know who is to blame. We could have easily sent Ifti at number 3, but there is a certain gentleman who would not leave his favourite batting position even on gun point.

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I remember years ago when Hafeez was a mainstay at #3 but started to decline for the last time, we’d hear reports of him being too stubborn to move from the position.

Sohaib Maqsood hit 3 back to back 50s at 3 because Hafeez was either injured or opening, but soon enough they put Hafeez back at 3 and Sohaib would come out at 7… and eventually faded into obscurity.

Not saying that alone is the reason Sohaib never kicked on, but these “seniors” have a disgusting habit of playing for themselves and not the team, and this disease goes as far back as the 90s.

Would’ve liked to give Sohaib and UA an extended run at 3 and opening position, respectively, just like everyone else on PP, but that time is gone…
 
Sindragosa said:
No. If PAK qualifies they'll be in Calcutta. Even if they're facing India.
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That's ridiculous. India will most likely be 1st. SA will rank 2nd. AUS will rank 3rd.

Semi matchups are 1st vs 4th and 2nd vs 3rd.

Only shot Pakistan has at semis is 4th spot which means they'll only be playing at Wankhede vs no.1 spot.

Now there's a chance that SA could go 1st by beating india. In any case, pak will only be playing at Mumbai ground if they reach semi. Either India or SA. I'd say worst of the lot.
 
Dantheone said:
If Pakistan doesn't make it - it will all come down to the slow innings from Babar against Afg where they ended 50-60 short. Came close to SA but that was 50-50.
Also, i think they failed to play 50 overs in more than couple of matches. That gives the NRR extra negative hit.
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PassionForPak said:
If pak does quality by chance, they'll be facing India at Mumbai ground that SL faced today xD.

We can see who's pace is best or batting for that matter.

But nz losing to pak and winning remaining match still means pak are out of wc.

I'd day 25% chance to qualify.
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PassionForPak said:
If pak does quality by chance, they'll be facing India at Mumbai ground that SL faced today xD.

We can see who's pace is best or batting for that matter.

But nz losing to pak and winning remaining match still means pak are out of wc.

I'd day 25% chance to qualify.
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You have arrived at an incorrect conclusion. If Pakistan beats NZ by 83 runs or reached the target by 15 overs to spare, we are tied on points and our NRR will be better albeit slightly than NZ’s.

Then it becomes a shootout of who beats their opponents by a bigger margin. NZ vs SRL …. Pak vs Eng.

Going by how SRL’s current form NZ will fancy their chances of winning against them by a big margin if they lose to us. So we have a tough ask. But this is not all over if NZ win their last game after losing to us. In fact I am sure Pakistan are planning with that in view.

One positive is our game against Eng is last. So if we beat NZ and BZ beat SRL, we wi have a clear picture as to by what margin we need to beat England.

All this is of course depending on us beating NZ by 83 runs or finishing the game in 35 overs if chasing.
 
Stewie said:
You have arrived at an incorrect conclusion. If Pakistan beats NZ by 83 runs or reached the target by 15 overs to spare, we are tied on points and our NRR will be better albeit slightly than NZ’s.

Then it becomes a shootout of who beats their opponents by a bigger margin. NZ vs SRL …. Pak vs Eng.

Going by how SRL’s current form NZ will fancy their chances of winning against them by a big margin if they lose to us. So we have a tough ask. But this is not all over if NZ win their last game after losing to us. In fact I am sure Pakistan are planning with that in view.

One positive is our game against Eng is last. So if we beat NZ and BZ beat SRL, we wi have a clear picture as to by what margin we need to beat England.

All this is of course depending on us beating NZ by 83 runs or finishing the game in 35 overs if chasing.
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That's being too hopeful.
England being wounded tiger, will be be out of blood to avoid getting knocked out of champions trophy and there's decent chance that they'll crush pak if they bat first.

Pak must force Eng to bat 2nd for a good outcome.

Nz are having too many injuries and their star players are out of team so I would fancy pak in that contest but win by 83+ runs is also a very tough ask. Again this depends if pak can force nz to bat 2nd. They have horrible RR while batting 2nd.
 
Remaining fixtures for teams currently in 3rd to 6th place:

Australia - England, Afghanistan, Bangladesh
New Zealand - Pakistan, Sri Lanka
Pakistan - New Zealand, England
Afghanistan - Netherlands, Australia, South Africa

I really cannot see this Sri Lanka side beating New Zealand so that's at least 10 points for NZ.

Also I cannot see Pakistan beat Pakistan beat England and NZ.

It's not looking good.
 
PassionForPak said:
That's ridiculous. India will most likely be 1st. SA will rank 2nd. AUS will rank 3rd.

Semi matchups are 1st vs 4th and 2nd vs 3rd.

Only shot Pakistan has at semis is 4th spot which means they'll only be playing at Wankhede vs no.1 spot.

Now there's a chance that SA could go 1st by beating india. In any case, pak will only be playing at Mumbai ground if they reach semi. Either India or SA. I'd say worst of the lot.
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Pakistan is not playing at Wankhede under any circumstances.
 
Saj said:
Remaining fixtures for teams currently in 3rd to 6th place:

Australia - England, Afghanistan, Bangladesh
New Zealand - Pakistan, Sri Lanka
Pakistan - New Zealand, England
Afghanistan - Netherlands, Australia, South Africa

I really cannot see this Sri Lanka side beating New Zealand so that's at least 10 points for NZ.

Also I cannot see Pakistan beat Pakistan beat England and NZ.

It's not looking good.
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Aus can easily crush BD so that's 10 points already and Their 3rd spot is most likely seale
Sindragosa said:
Pakistan is not playing at Wankhede under any circumstances.
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How so, they can not score more than 10 points so they'll be forced to stick to 4th spot if they luckily qualify.

That means they are destined for wankhede.
Semi venues are already decided and 1st and 4th spot teams will face the heat at Wankhede.

Anyway, Pak will thank their starts to qualify first then worry about ground.
Having good seamers is a blessing at Wankhede.
 
PassionForPak said:
That's ridiculous. India will most likely be 1st. SA will rank 2nd. AUS will rank 3rd.

Semi matchups are 1st vs 4th and 2nd vs 3rd.

Only shot Pakistan has at semis is 4th spot which means they'll only be playing at Wankhede vs no.1 spot.

Now there's a chance that SA could go 1st by beating india. In any case, pak will only be playing at Mumbai ground if they reach semi. Either India or SA. I'd say worst of the lot.
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Pakistan is confirmed to play in Kolkata if they reach the semis due to security reasons.

It doesn't matter if they finish 1, 2, 3, or 4.
 
PassionForPak said:
Aus can easily crush BD so that's 10 points already and Their 3rd spot is most likely seale

How so, they can not score more than 10 points so they'll be forced to stick to 4th spot if they luckily qualify.

That means they are destined for wankhede.
Semi venues are already decided and 1st and 4th spot teams will face the heat at Wankhede.

Anyway, Pak will thank their starts to qualify first then worry about ground.
Having good seamers is a blessing at Wankhede.
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Dude, If Pakistan plays at Wankede, I'll give you my cat.
 
kingusama92 said:
Pakistan just needs to focus on winning against NZ. A big win will make a real dent in the NRR.

Even if NZ wins against SL, if Sri Lanka keeps it close then Pakistan might have a shot at chasing the NRR win against England.

Anything can happen.
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If the right Pakistan turns up, beating BZ would mean beating them by close to 83 runs if not more. NZ beating SRL or not is inconsequential if Pakistan go in with this mindset. Statistically speaking, it’s akistab’s fortune is in their hands. Win and win big against both teams and you are through. Don’t think about the result of NZ vs SRL.

I believe if Fakhar fires and Wasim bowls the way he did in the last game, anything is possible.
 
PassionForPak said:
That's being too hopeful.
England being wounded tiger, will be be out of blood to avoid getting knocked out of champions trophy and there's decent chance that they'll crush pak if they bat first.

Pak must force Eng to bat 2nd for a good outcome.

Nz are having too many injuries and their star players are out of team so I would fancy pak in that contest but win by 83+ runs is also a very tough ask. Again this depends if pak can force nz to bat 2nd. They have horrible RR while batting 2nd.
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That’s all conjecture. I am just telling you a hard fact: NZ beating SRL is not curtains for Pakistan. NZ beating Pakistan would be. So let us wait for that to happen first.

And England are as clueless as a Gali team without a bat. Talk them up if you want but I would think Pakistan would fancy their chances against them.
 
Mickey Arthur during the Pakistan vs. New Zealand pre-game presser:

[Reporter:]

Sitting outside, we have been calculating, okay, this margin, this margin, that margin can Pakistan take, surpass. So do you have this thing in your mind that if we can win by around 85 runs, it will take us above New Zealand in net run rate. So, do you, I mean, this thing is in your mind that we have to not only to win, but also to pass, surpass New Zealand on net run rate?

[Mickey Arthur:]

Yeah, look, of course it is. It is based on and during the Calcutta chase, I had every scenario in my pocket as to if we won in 25 overs, if we won in 26 overs, 27 overs. So, we kind of knew as to how we were going to eat into the net run rate of particularly New Zealand. What I didn't factor into was South Africa doing us a favour the next night. So, we do have all those scenarios. Of course, we have those scenarios. I think the first thing for us, though, is we've got to respect our position. New Zealand are a very, very good team. I think they're very well coached. I think they're very well led. I think they're a very experienced cricket team. We've got to respect it. And once we get ourselves in a position, only then can we start talking about those net run rates. Now, I'll have all the information, but I won't necessarily give it to the players until we feel the time is right to put the foot down and potentially try and close that net run rate because we've still got to win the game as well.​
 
Hawkeye said:
It was an even messier mess when Pak actually won the World Cup in 1992.

Miracles brought us to the semi and final.
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But Imran khan was our captain and miandad was in the squad, even though our team had part time bowlers like ijaz ahmed. Does Babar have that mental strength?
 
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