Peace loving Indians should ask Narendra Modi to resign

[SecondSlip]

This war mongering buffoon has single handedly made India a laughing stock in front of whole world just to get some votes. India has been humiliated today just because of one man and his greed to win election. It's high time general peace loving Indians should wake up and ask their government to stop this madness.

As Prime Minister Imran Khan Sahab said, "hope better sense prevails."

 

[Varun]

Elections in under 2 months.

Just wait and watch.

 

[Kroll]

Not only is he a war-monger but an extremist and extremists don't resign.

 

[90MPH]

Modi got schooled big time in his misadventure.

Time will tell because yesterday it seemed he had this election in the bag.

 

[DRsohail]

Elections in under 2 months.

Just wait and watch.

Very sad with what is ahppening,people of kashmir I mean POK and IOK are have to face more hardships...I can only pray for peace.Tired up these chest thumpings for year from both sides.

 

[King-Misbah]

I think what happen today will definitely dent his election chances. But it was all Modis stupidity!

 

[PakLFC]

He will take his anger out on Kashmiris and non-Hindu's. the man is a nutter.

 

[Syed1]

India is a billion strong country, some of them go onto be CEOs of biggest companies in the world. Yet they elected a chai wala, dehat posh as their PM who has an insatiable bloodlust

 

[King-Misbah]

India is a billion strong country, some of them go onto be CEOs of biggest companies in the world. Yet they elected a chai wala, dehat posh as their PM who has an insatiable bloodlust

No issue being a villager or a chai wala; the issue is his extremism.

 

[Madplayer]

It would be better for Pakistan if Modi wins.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It would be better for Pakistan if Modi wins.

I have said the other day that I was praying for a Modi victory, but that was mainly out of spite as I think a leader who is so backward thinking can only hold India back. It's that pathetic state of mind where if I can't succeed then I hop you don't either!

 

[Varun]

Indian democracy was alive and kicking when the BJP got thumped in 3 states not long ago - MP, Rajasthan and Chattisgarh.

Just wait a few more weeks for people to vote again.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Elections in under 2 months.

Just wait and watch.

#Hope better sense prevails...

And I hope the Indians are aware of this BJP election drama...

 

[moh12]

No issue being a villager or a chai wala; the issue is his extremism.

That's a disservice to chai walas.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

He killed thousands to become the PM and still a killing bloodlust... Recently saw a video there was lady swamy inside a van confessing Modi was the orchestrator of Godhra bombing and begging Modi to handover Godhra like one massacre to Pakistan lol...

Hope he doesnt win and being put behind the bars for all his killings of innocent people....

 

[slipcatch]

He is someone that Indian movie portray as evil politician with a charm personality in public, countless bollywood movies have been made on such characters.

He is someone who is power hungry and I am afraid he would do almost anything to stay in power.

He is someone who believe in furthering his perverted version of Hinduism.

I just hope Indian do the right thing and elect someone who would be open to discuss anything and everything pertaining to Pak and Ind issues.

 

[last_knight]

Elections in under 2 months.

Just wait and watch.

In Pakistan, Religious groups were so powerfull they would solve your problems even if police and courts were unable to solve it for you. This was hijacking the domain of local underworld goons who were not strong enough to fight against well established religious groups and goons eventually ended up joining these groups. This mixture of religious mask and goons really got dirty and we Pakistani would face it everyday. Through army's struggle, we are finally getting rid of it.

That's exactly what is Modi doing in India. Religious groups are becoming unaccountable. You can foresee their powers getting dirty in next 5 years. Unaccountable today means uncontrollable tomorrow.

An unstable Pakistan is not in India's favour and an unstable India is not in Pakistan's favour. For the sake of both countries, it's better if Modi loses.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I think Modi has been sold down the river either by his own advisors or outsiders.

Modi thought he could go into Pak terrirtory and come back as a victor.

Now he finds himself in a desperate situation. Modi being an extremist will want to gain back some respectability by showing his public a fighter jet shot down, a pilot captured, a base hit or a sub drowned.

If this guy was a man of the nation, he would call a truce but I have a bad feeling he will do something very stupid once again which could also backfire or worse escalate the situation into an all out war.

 

[rhony]

What? Naa. Modi is still the best leader India have. He doesnt have a peer in Indian politics. But this incident will teach him a lesson.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What? Naa. Modi is still the best leader India have. He doesnt have a peer in Indian politics. But this incident will teach him a lesson.

In your view, what will Modi do now? I think we can say if he does nothing and things settle down Modi would be seen as a failure in a war like situation and would lose the next election?

 

[UP]

In your view, what will Modi do now? I think we can say if he does nothing and things settle down Modi would be seen as a failure in a war like situation and would lose the next election?

The Indian PM is in a tricky situation right now because his planes have been shot down and a pilot captured. His image is on the cards. He is also aware if he touches Pak - his hands will get burned. A dilemma for him for sure!

 

[rhony]

In your view, what will Modi do now? I think we can say if he does nothing and things settle down Modi would be seen as a failure in a war like situation and would lose the next election?

I think Indian psyche has changed over the years. They have ambitions to be recognized as one of the best in the world in every domain. The attitude is better to have tried and lost than to never attempt and admit defeat. The India media will spin this slowly from a defeat to an embarrassment to a miscalculation. It will never be about the inability though.

Modi despite the rhetoric has done wonders with foreign diplomacy. India on a global level is at a much better position than it was 5 years ago. People talk about lack of jobs but I also see incredible growth in self employment and startups. It will take a bit of time before people will realize that automation is going to kill the jobs further and the government jobs ai'nt coming with most of the fields privatized.

This, I must say is his first major embarrassment. Him being an alpha male, I don't think he will stop here. This ended with Pak supremacy and he will continue until it's tilted towards India. Indian public have castigated Nehru for decades for ceasefires and they will not accept Modi backing down now. He will also do something spectacular in Kashmir to divert some of the attention. I initially thought he would give up after the Pilot capture but I don't think he will now. He will try to gain ascendency before he gives up.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The Indian PM is in a tricky situation right now because his planes have been shot down and a pilot captured. His image is on the cards. He is also aware if he touches Pak - his hands will get burned. A dilemma for him for sure!

I agree. I think something else will go wrong for India in their next step. Bad luck comes in 3's as they say.

I think Indian psyche has changed over the years. They have ambitions to be recognized as one of the best in the world in every domain. The attitude is better to have tried and lost than to never attempt and admit defeat. The India media will spin this slowly from a defeat to an embarrassment to a miscalculation. It will never be about the inability though.

Modi despite the rhetoric has done wonders with foreign diplomacy. India on a global level is at a much better position than it was 5 years ago. People talk about lack of jobs but I also see incredible growth in self employment and startups. It will take a bit of time before people will realize that automation is going to kill the jobs further and the government jobs ai'nt coming with most of the fields privatized.

This, I must say is his first major embarrassment. Him being an alpha male, I don't think he will stop here. This ended with Pak supremacy and he will continue until it's tilted towards India. Indian public have castigated Nehru for decades for ceasefires and they will not accept Modi backing down now. He will also do something spectacular in Kashmir to divert some of the attention. I initially thought he would give up after the Pilot capture but I don't think he will now. He will try to gain ascendency before he gives up.

Fair summary. The question is will he try something minor to get a little respect back or do something very serious which will lead to an all out war?

 

[rhony]

I agree. I think something else will go wrong for India in their next step. Bad luck comes in 3's as they say.



Fair summary. The question is will he try something minor to get a little respect back or do something very serious which will lead to an all out war?

He will try something to get the semblence of victory. The strike in retaliation of 40 killed soldiers cannot end with a capture of his own IAF commander. There is more to come. My bet is he's going to strike something and then use his diplomatic channels to end this on the Pak side.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think Indian psyche has changed over the years. They have ambitions to be recognized as one of the best in the world in every domain. The attitude is better to have tried and lost than to never attempt and admit defeat. The India media will spin this slowly from a defeat to an embarrassment to a miscalculation. It will never be about the inability though.

Modi despite the rhetoric has done wonders with foreign diplomacy. India on a global level is at a much better position than it was 5 years ago. People talk about lack of jobs but I also see incredible growth in self employment and startups. It will take a bit of time before people will realize that automation is going to kill the jobs further and the government jobs ai'nt coming with most of the fields privatized.

This, I must say is his first major embarrassment. Him being an alpha male, I don't think he will stop here. This ended with Pak supremacy and he will continue until it's tilted towards India. Indian public have castigated Nehru for decades for ceasefires and they will not accept Modi backing down now. He will also do something spectacular in Kashmir to divert some of the attention. I initially thought he would give up after the Pilot capture but I don't think he will now. He will try to gain ascendency before he gives up.

Are those advances in business down to Modi or just a natural outcome of the world's shift towards tech solutions? India was already well set to take advantage of that well before Modi ever came to prominence.

I think the need for a chest thumping alpha male at the helm is more dangerous than useful. You would be better served by a leader who can see the bigger picture rather than chasing short term votes. Pakistan isn't Gujarat where he can bully civilians in his home territory.

 

[mustang]

Are those advances in business down to Modi or just a natural outcome of the world's shift towards tech solutions? India was already well set to take advantage of that well before Modi ever came to prominence.

I think the need for a chest thumping alpha male at the helm is more dangerous than useful. You would be better served by a leader who can see the bigger picture rather than chasing short term votes. Pakistan isn't Gujarat where he can bully civilians in his home territory.

This is a good point, exactly how some here in US also rightfully question Obama's or Trump's claimed achievements. We don't know if the boat is rising because it is a good boat and floats well or if it is merely rising with the tide. I doubt we will ever know for certain at our levels in the totem pole.

I do see one thing for certain, Indians do not seem to have a choice besides Modi at least for now. You either vote for a right wing religious fanatic or you vote for a foreign mafia with 50+ year history of looting the nation. So you just assume one is the lesser of the 2 evils and go with it. I think outsiders (especially Pakistanis as current adversaries) should see Indians' choice for Modi through this light, perhaps that should change the views of hardcore elements on the Pakistani side who may assume majority of Indians are "Modi Bhakts" just because they voted for him - many voted for him because the other choice has proven to be far worse from Indians' standpoint.

 

[rhony]

Are those advances in business down to Modi or just a natural outcome of the world's shift towards tech solutions? India was already well set to take advantage of that well before Modi ever came to prominence.

I think the need for a chest thumping alpha male at the helm is more dangerous than useful. You would be better served by a leader who can see the bigger picture rather than chasing short term votes. Pakistan isn't Gujarat where he can bully civilians in his home territory.

You can never pinpoint the advances on a particular leader unless u live under Gaddaffi or Saddam for decades. His advantage is the lack of credible leadership alternative in India

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

This is a good point, exactly how some here in US also rightfully question Obama's or Trump's claimed achievements. We don't know if the boat is rising because it is a good boat and floats well or if it is merely rising with the tide. I doubt we will ever know for certain at our levels in the totem pole.

I do see one thing for certain, Indians do not seem to have a choice besides Modi at least for now. You either vote for a right wing religious fanatic or you vote for a foreign mafia with 50+ year history of looting the nation. So you just assume one is the lesser of the 2 evils and go with it. I think outsiders (especially Pakistanis as current adversaries) should see Indians' choice for Modi through this light, perhaps that should change the views of hardcore elements on the Pakistani side who may assume majority of Indians are "Modi Bhakts" just because they voted for him - many voted for him because the other choice has proven to be far worse from Indians' standpoint.

Bro it's very much understandable that one party rule is just because of incompetence of other parties but the question is why BJP is continuing with Modi. I am sure they will have many high profile politicians like Jaswant Singh in the party.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This is a good point, exactly how some here in US also rightfully question Obama's or Trump's claimed achievements. We don't know if the boat is rising because it is a good boat and floats well or if it is merely rising with the tide. I doubt we will ever know for certain at our levels in the totem pole.

I do see one thing for certain, Indians do not seem to have a choice besides Modi at least for now. You either vote for a right wing religious fanatic or you vote for a foreign mafia with 50+ year history of looting the nation. So you just assume one is the lesser of the 2 evils and go with it. I think outsiders (especially Pakistanis as current adversaries) should see Indians' choice for Modi through this light, perhaps that should change the views of hardcore elements on the Pakistani side who may assume majority of Indians are "Modi Bhakts" just because they voted for him - many voted for him because the other choice has proven to be far worse from Indians' standpoint.

Fair enough. I respect your view although it is a surprise that the only choice the electorate of a country like India should have is a religious fanatic or a foreign mafia. Would make an interesting topic at another time as to how a situation like that has come about in the subcontinent's oldest democracy.

 

[mustang]

Fair enough. I respect your view although it is a surprise that the only choice the electorate of a country like India should have is a religious fanatic or a foreign mafia. Would make an interesting topic at another time as to how a situation like that has come about in the subcontinent's oldest democracy.

I concur - this would make an interesting thread. Even here we were arguably stuck between 2 not so good choices in the past election - a corrupt lady on one side and a "wall-monger" on the other. As a 2 party system, we felt we were stuck between 2 bad choices. One saving grace for us is that no matter how bad, we can bid farewell to that leader after a max of 8 years. Somehow in every South Asian country I see leaders are entrenched not just for their lifetime but kids' and grandkids' lifetimes. There is no term limit and that dilutes the quality of all those democracies.

India - Stuck with Gandhi clan, Modi (until he chooses to move on), so many state level family rulers .. list is endless here
Pakistan - Bhuttos, Zardari, Sharifs ...
Bangladesh - Hasina, khaleda zia
Sri Lanka - Bandaranaike clan, Rajapakse

Without effective term limits, all of South Asia has degenerated into a pseudo democracy ... democracy on paper but near-dynastic monarchy in reality.

Does UK have term limits on PMs? For clarification, term limit = cap on how long the leader can be President/PM in their lifetime.

 

[PetroDollars]

nothing will change in india as the media is as stupid as its leader, they will just sell a false victory like they have done in every war and the gullible people will fall for it.

 

[Sher Khan]

The truth is that’s Indian people arent exactly peace loving. A lot of them are in favour of war with Pakistan. Keep in mind, that modi was elected as pm for his anti Pakistan views.

Us, Pakistanis we are the only ones wishing for peace.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Peace loving Indians....I feel like we could count on fingers how many there are out of 1.3B. It is a shameful existence as far as I'm concerned, to be some emotionally charged, melodramatic and jingoistic.

Simply said, Indians are a bunch of idiots. I don't generalize, and I don't think I am in this case.

 

[amax]

Peace loving Indians....I feel like we could count on fingers how many there are out of 1.3B. It is a shameful existence as far as I'm concerned, to be some emotionally charged, melodramatic and jingoistic.

Simply said, Indians are a bunch of idiots. I don't generalize, and I don't think I am in this case.

Sometimes I wish , we were not bordering these 1.3 billion nation of fanatics, or there was a big wall between us and them. I would say after this conflict totally ignore India that it is even our neighbor.

 

[big_gamer007]

The truth is that’s Indian people arent exactly peace loving. A lot of them are in favour of war with Pakistan. Keep in mind, that modi was elected as pm for his anti Pakistan views.

Us, Pakistanis we are the only ones wishing for peace.

That is false and is called brainwashing. Follow the entire election campaign of Modi in 2014 (one of the costliest election campaigns ever) his main points were development, corruption and black money..

He won the election and people voted for him for these 3 reasons.

Pakistan was a minor point during his election campaign which was used to make the hardcore ones happy..

After a year or so when he couldn't do anything on the promises he made of big development, corruption and bringing back black money etc the narrative has changed..

Like you guys blame Indians for believing our media for everything you should also not believe what is fed to you.. If in 2019 Modi wins then what you are saying will be true however for 2014 elections the public voted for him purely on basis of domestic issues.

 

[big_gamer007]

Sometimes I wish , we were not bordering these 1.3 billion nation of fanatics, or there was a big wall between us and them. I would say after this conflict totally ignore India that it is even our neighbor.

Peace loving Indians....I feel like we could count on fingers how many there are out of 1.3B. It is a shameful existence as far as I'm concerned, to be some emotionally charged, melodramatic and jingoistic.

Simply said, Indians are a bunch of idiots. I don't generalize, and I don't think I am in this case.

There's a funny video by comedian Russel peters where he makes a joke how he went to an Arab country and could hear people talking not ally. However those people are never shown on TV only the psychopaths are shown by media who blow themselves up to give Muslims a bad name.

It's the same case everywhere there are 1.3 billion Indians and you only see the ones who bark the loudest or the ones who troll the loudest .

At the end of the day both sides need to understand where they stand in quality of life for their citizens and work on improving that.