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We all know that barring unforeseen circumstances, Joe Root will surpass Sachin Tendulkar as the leading run scorer in Test cricket.

This seemed fairly unthinkable only 4 years ago because Joe Root was in the middle of a career slump and lagging behind Steve Smith and Virat Kohli, let alone Sachin Tendulkar.

However, in January 2021, Joe Root flicked a switch in Sri Lanka and since then, he has been an unstoppable force in this format and 3.5 years later, not only as he left Virat Kohli in his dust, he is almost certain to soar past Sachin Tendulkar as well.

We all know how protective and sensitive Indian fans are when it comes to Sachin Tendulkar. For billions of Indian fans, any comparison of Sachin Tendulkar with any batsman has almost been viewed as blasphemy.

Sachin Tendulkar’s legacy as the leading run scorer and century maker is a matter of immense pride for Indian fans. It is as if they have monopolized batting records and only an Indian batsmen is worthy enough to have the baton.

For very long, they were under the impression that like in ODIs, if there is one batsman who could, would and should surpass the Little Master, it will be their new King, Virat Kohli.

However, Joe Root’s rise was not part of the script and not something that they were prepared for.

As a result, in the coming years, I can foresee a collective media (social & mainstream) campaign to discredit Joe Root and sell the narrative that he might overtake Sachin Tendulkar in terms of runs, he will never compare him to him in terms of quality of batting.

We the non-Indian stakeholders in cricket must ensure that we protect Joe Root from the fangs of Indians who will leave no stone unturned to manufacture situations, stats and contexts to make Joe Root look like a lesser batsman.

For example, they would fixate on his record in Australia even though, his record in Australia is hardly worse than Sachin Tendulkar’s record in Pakistan, and the quality of attack that he has faced in Australia is very much comparable to the quality of attack that Tendulkar couldn’t dominate in Pakistan.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Joe Root is one of the greatest Test batsmen we have ever seen. We are proud to witness a legendary Test batsman at the peak of his powers in an era where there is an over-consumption of T20 cricket.

There is no doubt whatsover that he would have been a phenomenal Test batsman in an era because his technique, skill and temperament are timeless.

Joe Root’s reputation will be in danger due to Indian propaganda because with billions of more fans than all other cricket nations put together, Indian fans and Indian media hold the ultimate power when it comes to shaping narratives. Their beliefs and their convictions become the ultimate source of truth.

This is how a bang average cricketer like M.S. Dhoni became one of the all-time greats and the benchmark for WK in post-Gilchrist era even though you will find better WK batsmen than him in all Test nations.

This is how Jasprit Bumrah has somehow entered the GOAT conversation even though they are several active fast bowlers who are as good as him.

Joe Root will be targeted over the coming years and we the non-Indian stakeholders in cricket have a responsibility towards him and towards English cricket to ensure that when he surpasses Sachin Tendulkar, he gets his due credit and the Indian voices who attempt to make him look a lesssr batsman in comparison are muffled.
 
Despite their population there is not one legitimate cricket pundit, writer or scribe from India that is considered influential in cricketing circles.

Joe has already surpassed Tendulkar, if he breaks the record it will just be the cherry on top.

His reputation won't be tarnished by Indian propaganda however I do fear for his safety as he approaches the record. Many of these Indian fans will go to any length to defend Tendulkar and there is no doubt they may try something to ensure that the leading scorer record remains with him.
 
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Mamoon said:
This is how Jasprit Bumrah has somehow entered the GOAT conversation even though they are several active fast bowlers who are as good as him.
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Bumrah pole-vaulted himself into the GOAT conversation, it has nothing to do with indian fans.

Even a crusty pom like Bumble believes Bumrah has long surpassed Mcgrath.


 
These are major deflection tactics right here, buddies. Can’t defend his favorite Babar anymore- so go on the offensive against Indians with unfounded allegations and conspiracies.

Majority of Indians have nothing but respect for Joe Root & I have never read or seen anybody talk crap about him. Even though he has been playing in a crap team for the longest time, he has always scored runs against us & we respect and appreciate that. So even if he surpasses Tendulkar we will doff our hat and move on.
 
Mamoon said:
We all know that barring unforeseen circumstances, Joe Root will surpass Sachin Tendulkar as the leading run scorer in Test cricket.

This seemed fairly unthinkable only 4 years ago because Joe Root was in the middle of a career slump and lagging behind Steve Smith and Virat Kohli, let alone Sachin Tendulkar.

However, in January 2021, Joe Root flicked a switch in Sri Lanka and since then, he has been an unstoppable force in this format and 3.5 years later, not only as he left Virat Kohli in his dust, he is almost certain to soar past Sachin Tendulkar as well.

We all know how protective and sensitive Indian fans are when it comes to Sachin Tendulkar. For billions of Indian fans, any comparison of Sachin Tendulkar with any batsman has almost been viewed as blasphemy.

Sachin Tendulkar’s legacy as the leading run scorer and century maker is a matter of immense pride for Indian fans. It is as if they have monopolized batting records and only an Indian batsmen is worthy enough to have the baton.

For very long, they were under the impression that like in ODIs, if there is one batsman who could, would and should surpass the Little Master, it will be their new King, Virat Kohli.

However, Joe Root’s rise was not part of the script and not something that they were prepared for.

As a result, in the coming years, I can foresee a collective media (social & mainstream) campaign to discredit Joe Root and sell the narrative that he might overtake Sachin Tendulkar in terms of runs, he will never compare him to him in terms of quality of batting.

We the non-Indian stakeholders in cricket must ensure that we protect Joe Root from the fangs of Indians who will leave no stone unturned to manufacture situations, stats and contexts to make Joe Root look like a lesser batsman.

For example, they would fixate on his record in Australia even though, his record in Australia is hardly worse than Sachin Tendulkar’s record in Pakistan, and the quality of attack that he has faced in Australia is very much comparable to the quality of attack that Tendulkar couldn’t dominate in Pakistan.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Joe Root is one of the greatest Test batsmen we have ever seen. We are proud to witness a legendary Test batsman at the peak of his powers in an era where there is an over-consumption of T20 cricket.

There is no doubt whatsover that he would have been a phenomenal Test batsman in an era because his technique, skill and temperament are timeless.

Joe Root’s reputation will be in danger due to Indian propaganda because with billions of more fans than all other cricket nations put together, Indian fans and Indian media hold the ultimate power when it comes to shaping narratives. Their beliefs and their convictions become the ultimate source of truth.

This is how a bang average cricketer like M.S. Dhoni became one of the all-time greats and the benchmark for WK in post-Gilchrist era even though you will find better WK batsmen than him in all Test nations.

This is how Jasprit Bumrah has somehow entered the GOAT conversation even though they are several active fast bowlers who are as good as him.

Joe Root will be targeted over the coming years and we the non-Indian stakeholders in cricket have a responsibility towards him and towards English cricket to ensure that when he surpasses Sachin Tendulkar, he gets his due credit and the Indian voices who attempt to make him look a lesssr batsman in comparison are muffled.
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This is one of the reasons why I wanted Joe Root to reach a 300. Nonetheless he still has a higher score than Sachin. In fact he has two 250+ scores now and Sachin has none.

But the resistance will be big. Indian fans won't accept it internally if Joe Root surpasses Sachin in runs.
 
Records are meant to be broken. Joe Root will eventually break Sachin’s record. Judging by the pitches and bowling quality, Root can surpass Moyo’s record and Brook can break Lara’s record in this series itself. I don’t understand the need to pull down Dhoni or Bumrah though.
 
RidiculousMan said:
This is one of the reasons why I wanted Joe Root to reach a 300. Nonetheless he still has a higher score than Sachin. In fact he has two 250+ scores now and Sachin has none.

But the resistance will be big. Indian fans won't accept it internally if Joe Root surpasses Sachin in runs.
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Who are Indian fans NOT to accept if he surpasses Sachin in test runs? It will be written in history books and everyone need to accept.

However, any sane individual with an iorta of cricket acumen will not accept that Root is a better batsman than Tendulkar. If people wants to troll, they are absolutely fine to do so.

Here is the thing, Sachin has got highest runs and most number of centuries in Test cricket. He also has highest number of runs and most centuries in ODI cricket until Kohli broke that record in last world cup semi final. If Root also went onto surpass his tally of runs in test cricket, it will only mean that he surpassed one of his many records. The fact is, multiple modern day batters are required to beat the record set by Sachin all by himself and that too playing in an era of ATG bowlers, bigger boundaries and red ball ODI cricket. When Kohli his surpassed his 49 ODI centuries record, not many Indian fans cared bcoz we all know 49 ODI centuries in modern ODI cricket is equivalent to perhaps 75 when Sachin used to bat.

If only the stats can tell the whole picture, will you consider Harbhajan Singh being a better test bowler that any Pakistani bowler in history? Afterall he has got more test wickets than Imran, Wasim, Waqar etall...so does Kapil, Ashwin and Kumble.

All these Bhangra we are doing today just bcoz Root scored a 250+ score in flattest of decks where Sehwag once scored triple century in 4 sessions. Same Root who is yet to score a century in Australia where Sachin had a ton as 18 year old facing ATG bowlers.

Kitne batsman aaye...kitne gaye. Some will outscore him in ODI cricket, some will get close to him in tests, some will surpass his x or y or z but no modern contemporary batsman can break all the records that Sachin accomplished himself and that is why he is the second greatest batsman of all time (only 2nd to Bradman)

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RexRex said:
Bumrah pole-vaulted himself into the GOAT conversation, it has nothing to do with indian fans.

Even a crusty pom like Bumble believes Bumrah has long surpassed Mcgrath.


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Now do the bumble interview about Lara vs sachin
 
Rajdeep said:
Who are Indian fans NOT to accept if he surpasses Sachin in test runs? It will be written in history books and everyone need to accept.

However, any sane individual with an iorta of cricket acumen will not accept that Root is a better batsman than Tendulkar. If people wants to troll, they are absolutely fine to do so.

Here is the thing, Sachin has got highest runs and most number of centuries in Test cricket. He also has highest number of runs and most centuries in ODI cricket until Kohli broke that record in last world cup semi final. If Root also went onto surpass his tally of runs in test cricket, it will only mean that he surpassed one of his many records. The fact is, multiple modern day batters are required to beat the record set by Sachin all by himself and that too playing in an era of ATG bowlers, bigger boundaries and red ball ODI cricket. When Kohli his surpassed his 49 ODI centuries record, not many Indian fans cared bcoz we all know 49 ODI centuries in modern ODI cricket is equivalent to perhaps 75 when Sachin used to bat.

If only the stats can tell the whole picture, will you consider Harbhajan Singh being a better test bowler that any Pakistani bowler in history? Afterall he has got more test wickets than Imran, Wasim, Waqar etall...so does Kapil, Ashwin and Kumble.

All these Bhangra we are doing today just bcoz Root scored a 250+ score in flattest of decks where Sehwag once scored triple century in 4 sessions. Same Root who is yet to score a century in Australia where Sachin had a ton as 18 year old facing ATG bowlers.

Kitne batsman aaye...kitne gaye. Some will outscore him in ODI cricket, some will get close to him in tests, some will surpass his x or y or z but no modern contemporary batsman can break all the records that Sachin accomplished himself and that is why he is the second greatest batsman of all time (only 2nd to Bradman)

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These are the voices that will have to be muffled. Root has walked over Kohli in Test cricket. David is up next and then finally, Sachin will be hunted down.

The pain shall remain constant.
 
Mamoon said:
We all know that barring unforeseen circumstances, Joe Root will surpass Sachin Tendulkar as the leading run scorer in Test cricket.

This seemed fairly unthinkable only 4 years ago because Joe Root was in the middle of a career slump and lagging behind Steve Smith and Virat Kohli, let alone Sachin Tendulkar.

However, in January 2021, Joe Root flicked a switch in Sri Lanka and since then, he has been an unstoppable force in this format and 3.5 years later, not only as he left Virat Kohli in his dust, he is almost certain to soar past Sachin Tendulkar as well.

We all know how protective and sensitive Indian fans are when it comes to Sachin Tendulkar. For billions of Indian fans, any comparison of Sachin Tendulkar with any batsman has almost been viewed as blasphemy.

Sachin Tendulkar’s legacy as the leading run scorer and century maker is a matter of immense pride for Indian fans. It is as if they have monopolized batting records and only an Indian batsmen is worthy enough to have the baton.

For very long, they were under the impression that like in ODIs, if there is one batsman who could, would and should surpass the Little Master, it will be their new King, Virat Kohli.

However, Joe Root’s rise was not part of the script and not something that they were prepared for.

As a result, in the coming years, I can foresee a collective media (social & mainstream) campaign to discredit Joe Root and sell the narrative that he might overtake Sachin Tendulkar in terms of runs, he will never compare him to him in terms of quality of batting.

We the non-Indian stakeholders in cricket must ensure that we protect Joe Root from the fangs of Indians who will leave no stone unturned to manufacture situations, stats and contexts to make Joe Root look like a lesser batsman.

For example, they would fixate on his record in Australia even though, his record in Australia is hardly worse than Sachin Tendulkar’s record in Pakistan, and the quality of attack that he has faced in Australia is very much comparable to the quality of attack that Tendulkar couldn’t dominate in Pakistan.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Joe Root is one of the greatest Test batsmen we have ever seen. We are proud to witness a legendary Test batsman at the peak of his powers in an era where there is an over-consumption of T20 cricket.

There is no doubt whatsover that he would have been a phenomenal Test batsman in an era because his technique, skill and temperament are timeless.

Joe Root’s reputation will be in danger due to Indian propaganda because with billions of more fans than all other cricket nations put together, Indian fans and Indian media hold the ultimate power when it comes to shaping narratives. Their beliefs and their convictions become the ultimate source of truth.

This is how a bang average cricketer like M.S. Dhoni became one of the all-time greats and the benchmark for WK in post-Gilchrist era even though you will find better WK batsmen than him in all Test nations.

This is how Jasprit Bumrah has somehow entered the GOAT conversation even though they are several active fast bowlers who are as good as him.

Joe Root will be targeted over the coming years and we the non-Indian stakeholders in cricket have a responsibility towards him and towards English cricket to ensure that when he surpasses Sachin Tendulkar, he gets his due credit and the Indian voices who attempt to make him look a lesssr batsman in comparison are muffled.
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Great post. I don’t know how much is genuine, due to your latest trolling fad, but at face value it’s a great post.
 
Mamoon said:
These are the voices that will have to be muffled. Root has walked over Kohli in Test cricket. David is up next and then finally, Sachin will be hunted down.

The pain shall remain constant.
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No pain bro. Root is a better test batsman than Kohli without any doubt and the later is better than him in LOI cricket. Kohli has statistically already surpassed Sachin in ODI cricket century wise. So Root can also surpass him in test cricket. Whether he does that remain to be seen as same thing was said about Alistair Cook also few years ago. However, even if he does that he will only be surpassing one of Sachin's record in one format like Kohli did last year. No modern day batsman can achieve Sachin's all record by himself. I am not even going into quality of bowlers back in 90s or bat size etc. Even with all the luxuries of modern cricket, I will wait for a batsman to beat Sachin's all record on his own.

English media has got the habbit of hyping up their players. They did the same with Cook few years ago. They did the same with Micahel Vaughan earlier and now they are doing the same for Root. Good for them but lets see how this thing turns out
 
India media is below garbage level so what OP is proposing has substantial concern.
 
Fellow Indians and fellow Pakistanis not blinded by hate, this post reminds me of politicians across both sides of the border.

When there is trouble at home, point fingers at your neighbor, villainize them, and divert attention from the problem at your doorstep.

There is a test match going on in Pakistan where any Pakistani fan would feel ashamed by his team's performance, which is not a one-off anymore, it's more of a given!

Instead of talking about that Test match or Pakistan's performance, OP is talking about Indian media and its propaganda, which hasn't happened yet, but might happen sometime in the future. That's pure conjecture on his part but anything goes for OP at this point.

Not only that, OP has used a religious slur in response to a post today against a fellow Indian, which suggests he has lost his marbles completely.

As a matter of principle, I will not entertain a religious bigot or anyone who partakes in religious slurs of any kind, so I'm definitely not going to respond to him.

I urge you all to not take the bait and ignore his pleas for attention completely.

This is just the beginning -- he will try to latch on to the coattails of any player in order to put Indian players/legends down.

Right now it's Joe Root, tomorrow it will be Steve Smith, Kamindu Mendis or anyone else.

He has been humiliated after getting caught posting deliberate lies and fudged stats that he will do anything to get back at Indians.

And finally, take this as a compliment -- OP has joined the I-hate-Indian-Cricket-because-it's-so-good-right-now bandwagon.

He will have to ride it for a long, long time and experience severe heartburn on almost a daily basis, given the amount of cricket India plays these days.
 
Pakistan cricket team has made Pakistan fans total clueless so for relevance they have to Praise someone else .

Pakistan cricket become jokes still they are not learnt the lesson.
 
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Ajmal's career and Babar's reputation also died thanks to Indian propaganda. Gotta protect precious Root from that fate, let the Cricketing world unite against Bharat and show them their place. 😤
 
TheSultan said:
He’s a spinner, Pakistan’s greatest bowlers have been pacers. Comparing apples and oranges mate
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You are smarter than this. Okay, Is Kapil Dev better than all Pakistani seamers in their test history?

Mate? :rabada2
 
Devadwal said:
Pakistan cricket team has made Pakistan fans total clueless so for relevance they have to Praise someone else .

Pakistan cricket become jokes still they are not learnt the lesson.
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Pakistani fans can either stop caring about Cricket or start cheering for foreign players to beat Bhartiya records. Which option is better brother? I am happy to see the jazba going as 250 million Pakistanis going quiet and sad will be a tragedy to the sport.
 
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Hahahaha Sachin Tendulkar still being in the discussions over a decade after retiring is absolute gold!! As ungainly it may be, it is still a lot of fun watching Keep it going!
 
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People may dismiss the OP as paranoia, but when Ponting was threatening to surpass Tendulkar's records, I prayed to my black magic deities, and Ponting ended up having an even lesser average than him.

With Joe Root looming on the horizon, it’s time to invoke the shaman again. On the next full moon night (one week from now), the ritual will begin: vermilion smeared across the altar, a black goat ready for sacrifice, smoke from burning red chillies, dipped in mustard oil, rising to the heavens, summoning the spirits who have always responded to me.

When it comes to cricket, it’s not just the runs that matter... it’s who controls the dark forces.

Jai Ma Kali. Mark this post.
 
Sachin Tendulkar never scored a 250 in his entire Test career that lasted almost as long as the dinosaurs on earth.

He only picked up 5 Man of the Series awards in spite of the fact that he has played more Test series than anyone in history.

He never scored more than 500 runs in a Test series.

He was the definition of a low impact player who drizzled for two decades but never thundered.

One of the most pathetic Man of the Match to Test series played ratios in history tells us the following:

  • He was never good enough to prevent India from losing series that they were meant to lose.

  • Most of the times when India won, there were other Indian players who did better than him.

Joe Root is clearly a superior batsman at a lot of aspects of batting. It is by no means an unfair comparison.
 
Quinton De Kock is a far better WK batsman than Dhoni in all formats and KG Rabada is a better fast bowler in Tests than anyone in Indian history including Bumrah.

But Dhoni and Bumrah have the force of billions of fans behind their backs that has elevated their status far beyond what it is actually worth while superior players in comparison have been disrespected & devalued.

This is the outcome of allowing a disproportionate fanbase to build perceptions and narratives.

The only way to curb the Indian influence to ensure that the cricketing world does not revolve around them and their version of events is not the ultimate source of truth which sadly is today.

Indians hold the key to decide if you are good or bad, but the non-Indian stakeholders can negate this by staying firm in their beliefs and convictions.
 
Literally we have karun Nair who scored 300 against England's Jimmy Anderson, Mark wood type bowlers .

But india never care about him as we have better player than him :kp
 
Building perceptions and narratives - Ramiz Raja about Babar Azam and Pakistani fans lapping it.
 
Mamoon said:
Indians hold the key to decide if you are good or bad, but the non-Indian stakeholders can negate this by staying firm in their beliefs and convictions.
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So your complaint is that non-indians are not staying firm in their beliefs - perhaps that's because indians are persuasive & put up very intelligent & convincing arguments lol.

As a famous youtuber once said, 'Facts don't care about your feelings.'
 
Seriously who cares about media or former players etc. A player is either great or not and Joe Root is a great. If he breaks Sachin's record he deserves all the praise he gets. It is not easy to score 16K test runs. There is a reason only one player has done it. For years now Pakistan fans etc have been running propaganda to belittle Sachin Tendulkar, hasn't affected his legacy. He is still a great. It is funny that the OP himself is belittling the acheivements of MSD and Bumrah but expects others to do otherwise. When you write something to drive home a point, at least try to not do what you are accusing Indian fans/media will do in the future? Fans/Media create a hyperbole always of legends from their country. For example Pakistan fans calls Asif as the second coming of McGrath etc, Called Babar as the best batsman in the world etc, it is common. So why are you worried about Indian fans or media calling MSD a great. How is it affecting you? One country calling their player a great does not make him/her a great. The entire world should say it. Joe Root, if he surpasses Sachin, he will be regarded as a great all over the world, no one cares what Indian media or fans say. The same way we don't care about what Pakistan fans say about Sachin, Bumrah, Dhoni or Virat, we will consider them as greats and so will the world, that's all matters.

For years now Indian former players and media go gaga over Wasim, Waqar, Miandad, Imran etc, so should we disregard that as well? and call them overhyped because Indian media is doing it? I know you are trying to bait the people here. I have been in this forum for a long time and I have seen your posts. Don't think you actually care or believe what you write. You had different POV just till a year ago and then have changed it to the opposite just for fun. Whatever it may be, I will take that bait this one time. I will take anyone else who posts here seriously as at least they are true to what they post but you it is hard to take anything you post seriously, because I know in a years time you will start a thread which will contradict this one.
 
Right now, if there is anyone who can surpass Joe Root's record (and endanger his reputation), it's one and only King Babar.
 
ok ok he is trying really hard now I hope he baits few new posters atleast or maybe I can just show him the link to his old posts
 
Root is a quality bat but Pakistani fans shouldn't be celebrating after watching England score 823/7 against them in their backyard and Root surpassing Cook in terms of runs tally.

These are the two events that happened yesterday, concentrate on that rather than doing bhangra over whether he can surpass SRT's runs tally which is almost 3500 runs far.

By the way, I thought Shaheen and Naseem will finally breach the 200 wickets mark. What happened to them? Will Shaheen hang that much to get to 200 wicket mark or he will replace with two more exciting overhyped 18 year old 145+ kph pacers?
 
TheSultan said:
He’s a spinner, Pakistan’s greatest bowlers have been pacers. Comparing apples and oranges mate
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Kapil better than Imran and Wasim.
Why are Pakistanis so bad at sports?
Does Pakistan has the weakest genetics in the world?
 
Mamoon said:
Quinton De Kock is a far better WK batsman than Dhoni in all formats and KG Rabada is a better fast bowler in Tests than anyone in Indian history including Bumrah.

But Dhoni and Bumrah have the force of billions of fans behind their backs that has elevated their status far beyond what it is actually worth while superior players in comparison have been disrespected & devalued.

This is the outcome of allowing a disproportionate fanbase to build perceptions and narratives.

The only way to curb the Indian influence to ensure that the cricketing world does not revolve around them and their version of events is not the ultimate source of truth which sadly is today.

Indians hold the key to decide if you are good or bad, but the non-Indian stakeholders can negate this by staying firm in their beliefs and convictions.
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So cute, trying so hard.
Unless PP gets a decent influx of new Indian posters this heel turn will fall flat just like Austin’s.
 
England have been unable to produce a batsman who averages 50+ or a bowler who averages 25- in living memory.

Can Joe Root be the exception?
 
You can clearly tell Indians have lost it since all of them are just resorting to excessive trolling.

Theirs a reason why their isnt a single good journalist or someone world renowned in regards to cricket from India.

This thread is a perfectly viable thread yet instead of actually debating, ofcourse the hive mind comes across as ransacking penguins.

This is my issue that I have with this lot. Their excessive trolls, virtually all of em.
 
Varun said:
England have been unable to produce a batsman who averages 50+ or a bowler who averages 25- in living memory.

Can Joe Root be the exception?
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Maybe they have got the first one finally who can average 50 if not more.
 
Mockingbird said:
These are major deflection tactics right here, buddies. Can’t defend his favorite Babar anymore- so go on the offensive against Indians with unfounded allegations and conspiracies.

Majority of Indians have nothing but respect for Joe Root & I have never read or seen anybody talk crap about him. Even though he has been playing in a crap team for the longest time, he has always scored runs against us & we respect and appreciate that. So even if he surpasses Tendulkar we will doff our hat and move on.
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That's a you thing and many Indians will respect your views. However I'm fully aware of some Indian trolls here who will hypocritically claim this but their toxic mask will slip eventually.
 
The only issue I have with this post, is that it's not as genuine like it would be if I had made it, because in my case I would be honestly comparing root vs Tendulkar,

Whereas in this case the OP is trying to defelct from Babar's form and the fact that the prediction of beating England was wrong which I had already claimed months back that it was.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Despite their population there is not one legitimate cricket pundit, writer or scribe from India that is considered influential in cricketing circles.

Joe has already surpassed Tendulkar, if he breaks the record it will just be the cherry on top.

His reputation won't be tarnished by Indian propaganda however I do fear for his safety as he approaches the record. Many of these Indian fans will go to any length to defend Tendulkar and there is no doubt they may try something to ensure that the leading scorer record remains with him.
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Joe Root should fear for his safety in Pakistan. Pakistan has a history of attacking opposition players, even with bombs and guns.
 
mominsaigol said:
You can clearly tell Indians have lost it since all of them are just resorting to excessive trolling.

Theirs a reason why their isnt a single good journalist or someone world renowned in regards to cricket from India.

This thread is a perfectly viable thread yet instead of actually debating, ofcourse the hive mind comes across as ransacking penguins.

This is my issue that I have with this lot. Their excessive trolls, virtually all of em.
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Who decides who is good? You? Or a group of pakistanis?

Good cricket expert must be those who praise pakistani players on air?
 
mominsaigol said:
That's a you thing and many Indians will respect your views. However I'm fully aware of some Indian trolls here who will hypocritically claim this but their toxic mask will slip eventually.
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Look buddy, there are trolls everywhere and we should discount them. They don’t speak for most of us. Trust me, true cricket lovers will have nothing but respect for Joe Root as well as Tendulkar. And in some ways there are lots of parallels between them, bcoz they are both brilliant players stuck with crappy teams in the majority of their careers.
 
Mockingbird said:
Look buddy, there are trolls everywhere and we should discount them. They don’t speak for most of us. Trust me, true cricket lovers will have nothing but respect for Joe Root as well as Tendulkar. And in some ways there are lots of parallels between them, bcoz they are both brilliant players stuck with crappy teams in the majority of their careers.
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Tendulkar is > Root, however as I said, I've seen a huge influx of Indians on PP who are getting overly protective of their God who they likely haven't even met irl.

All I'm saying is, I've been observing, But qith that being said, OP is also deflecting from Babar claims he made in the past
 
mominsaigol said:
Tendulkar is > Root, however as I said, I've seen a huge influx of Indians on PP who are getting overly protective of their God who they likely haven't even met irl.

All I'm saying is, I've been observing, But qith that being said, OP is also deflecting from Babar claims he made in the past
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And as far as Tendulkar is concerned, many believed that he was God but he always had a feet of clay.
 
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mominsaigol said:
Tendulkar is > Root, however as I said, I've seen a huge influx of Indians on PP who are getting overly protective of their God who they likely haven't even met irl.

All I'm saying is, I've been observing, But qith that being said, OP is also deflecting from Babar claims he made in the past
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Huge influx? Indian posters on PP has gone down over the years.
 
Stay on topic guys. No need to troll each other. Stay relevant to the topic and no insults, please.
 
Rajdeep said:
No pain bro. Root is a better test batsman than Kohli without any doubt and the later is better than him in LOI cricket. Kohli has statistically already surpassed Sachin in ODI cricket century wise. So Root can also surpass him in test cricket. Whether he does that remain to be seen as same thing was said about Alistair Cook also few years ago. However, even if he does that he will only be surpassing one of Sachin's record in one format like Kohli did last year. No modern day batsman can achieve Sachin's all record by himself. I am not even going into quality of bowlers back in 90s or bat size etc. Even with all the luxuries of modern cricket, I will wait for a batsman to beat Sachin's all record on his own.

English media has got the habbit of hyping up their players. They did the same with Cook few years ago. They did the same with Micahel Vaughan earlier and now they are doing the same for Root. Good for them but lets see how this thing turns out
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The root-sachin comparison is not a mere propaganda piled up the english media

This analogy is real and it is way closer than the age old ponting vs sachin or cook vs sachin parities

India today did a full length episode couple of month backs on this topic and even their sports journalists believe that root has got a very good chance to surpass tendulkar
 
rpant_gabba said:
might happen sooner than you think if pak cricket continues the trend and pak economy continues its trend
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Right, cause Internet trolls equates to a country's economy.

Sometimes I wonder if people think twice before commenting
 
I don't think most Indians will actually care about this.

Only Test cricket fans will even bother comparing. And Test cricket fans rate Joe Root very highly anyway.

Anyway good stuff by Brother Mamoon. Us Indian fans are getting a Lil cocky after that World T20 win.

Who better than the resident contrarian to keep us humble
 
mominsaigol said:
Right, cause Internet trolls equates to a country's economy.

Sometimes I wonder if people think twice before commenting
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I'm guessing comprehension issues.

IF pak cricket continues the way it is, not much to discuss with Pak fans

If Pak economy continues the way it is, Indians don't have to pay much attention to Pakistan

So what will there be to engage about.
 
Its not a given that Root will surpass Sachins run tally, lol.

@Mamoon you also had no doubt that Pak will win this series, are you that confident about Root surpassing Sachins run tally too?
 
Sachin never had the advantage of playing bowling attacks like current Pakistan on a regular basis
 
On topic, Tendulkar is in a different galaxy when compared with Root.

Root first needs to surpass Dravid, then Gavaskar and then he can reach any close to Sachin.
 
rpant_gabba said:
I'm guessing comprehension issues.

IF pak cricket continues the way it is, not much to discuss with Pak fans

If Pak economy continues the way it is, Indians don't have to pay much attention to Pakistan

So what will there be to engage about.
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Pak cricket team is already a minnow, so I find it funny how 80% of the match threads are raided by your lot and trolled on end.

Hilarious, it's like if I closely followed USA cricket and then decided to troll them 🤣🤣.

It's already a minnow, so yes please please, Stop paying attention and get off. Do the world a favour
 
On a serious note - Joe Root's record in Australia is a big black spot

Your legacy is always defined by your record against the toughest team of ur era. Joe Root is bit like David Gower - brilliant batter but never delivered against the West Indies. One reason Alan Lamb , Gooch & Gatting were rated higher than hm although they were nowhere as stylish & elegant as Gower was !
 
big_gamer007 said:
Kapil better than Imran and Wasim.
Why are Pakistanis so bad at sports?
Does Pakistan has the weakest genetics in the world?
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Paaji’s strike rate and average are nowhere near Wasim, Waqar and Imran.

But the crux of the matter is this - and you boys have fallen in to it head first.

I and a lot of pak fans have never claimed that quantity > quality. Our arguments have always been that little sachin’s QUANTITY of runs do NOT set him apart. He’s is exceeded in average and telling contributions by other greats of the game.

It’s YOU guys that are always arguing that his QUANTITY of runs set him apart!

And why we’re rooting for Root (excuse the pun) to break the QUANTITY of runs is not because we believe that alone sets him apart. It is that what will your next excuse be next?!

The meltdown is delicious!
 
big_gamer007 said:
Kapil better than Imran and Wasim.
Why are Pakistanis so bad at sports?
Does Pakistan has the weakest genetics in the world?
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Without tampering and chucking , they have no bowling legacy.

On their own pitches , they end up losing by an innings despite scoring 556.

Basically, with cameras and stricter laws , Pakistanis can't even bowl as well as Bangladesh bowlers.

Let them have their time bashing SRT. They dont have much else to celebrate anyway
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Joe Root should fear for his safety in Pakistan. Pakistan has a history of attacking opposition players, even with bombs and guns.
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You are mixing terrorist attacks with attacks and threats by fanatical fans ( what India is full of) what's wrong with you?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Joe Root has been to India on many tours - 4 Test tours in fact. What threats to his life were seen in that time ?
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He wasn't close to Tendulkar record was he?

I've interacted with many Sachin fanatics. They are a different breed. It will be good for him to remain vigilant.

I'm talking about a specific scenario where he may face danger not overall.

For example Aussie players travel to India without issue but when they won the WC final they faced threats towards their families including their young kids.
 
Unleashed said:
The psychological damage that Tendulkar has inflicted on Pakistanis need to be studied.
Bloke lives in rent free in their heads even though he's been retired for a decade.
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Tendulkar averaged 42 vs Pakistan in Test cricket. That’s rubbish for a so-called god of batting. Why would Pakistani fans be traumatized?

Pakistan reduced Tendulkar to a Rahane/Pujara level batsman.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
On topic, Tendulkar is in a different galaxy when compared with Root.

Root first needs to surpass Dravid, then Gavaskar and then he can reach any close to Sachin.
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That is the Indian delusion. He is most certainly not in a different galaxy. This opinion will not be allowed to hold on a Pakistani cricket forum especially when Tendulkar was bang average vs Pakistan in Test cricket.

Root is equal to Sachin if not better in a lot of aspects of batting.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Its not a given that Root will surpass Sachins run tally, lol.

@Mamoon you also had no doubt that Pak will win this series, are you that confident about Root surpassing Sachins run tally too?
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If he doesn’t, he doesn’t and Indians can breathe easy and cancel pre-orders for anti-itch creams. However, I’m worried about how they will react if he does it, and I urge non-Indian stakeholders to ensure that their propaganda and influence doesn’t take the spotlight away from Joe Root.
 
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