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[PICTURES] Is Joe Root’s reputation in danger due to Indian propaganda?

DeadlyVenom said:
Despite their population there is not one legitimate cricket pundit, writer or scribe from India that is considered influential in cricketing circles.

Joe has already surpassed Tendulkar, if he breaks the record it will just be the cherry on top.

His reputation won't be tarnished by Indian propaganda however I do fear for his safety as he approaches the record. Many of these Indian fans will go to any length to defend Tendulkar and there is no doubt they may try something to ensure that the leading scorer record remains with him.
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thats true. Indians are biased, which is why their writers or scholars are not taken very seriously.

Samiuddin has more creadibility than all of Indian pundits together
 
lOl this thread is not serious 😂.

I was a die hard Sachin fan but I wouldn't care if Root breaks Sachin most runs in Test record. Having said that lots of my fellow Indian fans I see are still stats/Records obsessed. Dare I say Indian players as well. You can tell how much Kohli 50th century meant to him last year or how much century means to Rohit Sharma. Before Bazball Rohit(pre 2022/before captaincy), Rohit sole purpose while batting was to get century in ODIs and then he can worry about accelerating and getting to the desired target whether batting first or second. (Example - Rohit match losing century against England in 2019 World Cup). This mentality cost us several ICC TROPHIES. Even though I love Kohli batting but I didn't care when he scored his 50th ODI century. To me this is a meaningless record especially for ODIs. Lots of ODIs centuries are meaningless. Centuries or not, Kohli is amongst the top 3 Greatest ODI batsmen ever mainly cause of his match-winning chasing ability.

Maybe Root breaking Sachin record won't be bad thing for Indian cricket.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Read my previous posts on this topic.
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Okay just read the below....

aboveandbeyond said:
This has to be the delusion of the highest order to compare Root to the likes of Tendulkar, Lara, Richards, Ponting. They faced champion attacks majority of the time.

Whilst I'm not taking anything away from Joe, but he's fed on shocking Test attacks in this era bar the Indian and Australia attack whom he's struggled against.
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I got you wrong but you turned out to be:

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RahulBose said:
Clickbait.... So obvious.

Trolling Indians when your own team is at rock bottom....
That's the main problem with Pakistan, no priorities
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Indian posters troll pak posters more. That's a genuine fact.

Granted op is a legend here, but still more Indian troll posters then pak troll posters.
 
For the game to progress, records must be broken. And even if a record is broken, this does not diminish the original player's stature. Williamson has more runs than Crowe but Crowe is still widely regarded as a tremendous batsman.

Kohli broke Sachin's ODI hundred record. Sachin is still one of the greatest batters of all time. Similarly, Root is a legitimate ATG and I hope he scores as many runs as possible.
 
mominsaigol said:
Indian posters troll pak posters more. That's a genuine fact.

Granted op is a legend here, but still more Indian troll posters then pak troll posters.
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Maybe because Pak gives more fodder for trolling. Trolling is fine as long as you have some standing.
Otherwise , it feels, atleast to me, rather hollow.

You can't troll when your team lost this badly, when India lost wc23 final, I was depressed for weeks.
Maybe it is a coping mechanism for OP, but feels shallow and weird
 
mominsaigol said:
Indian posters troll pak posters more. That's a genuine fact.

Granted op is a legend here, but still more Indian troll posters then pak troll posters.
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We wouldn't troll anyone if we had scored 558 and lost by an innings at home.

PAK fans on the other hand....
 
RahulBose said:
Maybe because Pak gives more fodder for trolling. Trolling is fine as long as you have some standing.
Otherwise , it feels, atleast to me, rather hollow.

You can't troll when your team lost this badly, when India lost wc23 final, I was depressed for weeks.
Maybe it is a coping mechanism for OP, but feels shallow and weird
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Just saying, even if this post was made with bad intentions, You guys really shouldn't attack and act like it's a stab in your heart.

At the end of the day it's a root vs Sachin thread and no just because his name is Sachin doesn't mean he's excused from comparisons.

Root is close to surpassing Sachin in runs and this phatta pak series has ensured that he'll end up scoring 500 to 600 runs in this series alone.

At the very least he'll reach no 2 in test runs if not no 1.

Comparisons like these will pop up, this isn't a Sachin vs Babar thread where it seems ridiculous.

I only see some dedicated Indian posters here like buffet that are actually bringing up solid facts like root lack of centuries in Australia, The quality of bowlers Sachin faced vs root, etc etc.

The rest is just trolling for the sake of trolling with every argument translating to," How dare you attack Sachin, We condemn you to the depths or Azkaban"
 
Hellion said:
We wouldn't troll anyone if we had scored 558 and lost by an innings at home.

PAK fans on the other hand....
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Lol no, you lot literally have an Impossible to beat record of 180 runs in a final against a no 8 ranked team that almost didn't even make ct 2017 to begin with as they were ranked no 9.

Followed by same said team that was an utter joke in 2020 losing to Zimbabwe, getting ragdolled by them and losing every series possible in said time period yet getting ragdolled by 10 wickets and in he next game by 9 wickets against NZ.

What's the justification for that?

Or are you gonna say the standard tired excuse of "Bro you're conflating odi with test which is THE MOST HISTORIC FORMAT"

or the excuse of we smacked in 2018 and 2023 asia cup or the lamest excuse of "Meh we don't care and it doesn't matter"

Quit the drama, mera saath yei hypocrisy nahi chalei gi
 
mominsaigol said:
Lol no, you lot literally have an Impossible to beat record of 180 runs in a final against a no 8 ranked team that almost didn't even make ct 2017 to begin with as they were ranked no 9.

Followed by same said team that was an utter joke in 2020 losing to Zimbabwe, getting ragdolled by them and losing every series possible in said time period yet getting ragdolled by 10 wickets and in he next game by 9 wickets against NZ.

What's the justification for that?

Or are you gonna say the standard tired excuse of "Bro you're conflating odi with test which is THE MOST HISTORIC FORMAT"

or the excuse of we smacked in 2018 and 2023 asia cup or the lamest excuse of "Meh we don't care and it doesn't matter"

Quit the drama, mera saath yei hypocrisy nahi chalei gi
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We lost in the final. Not the same as getting beaten up by record margins at home. And getting whitewashed at home by Bangladesh
 
mominsaigol said:
Just saying, even if this post was made with bad intentions, You guys really shouldn't attack and act like it's a stab in your heart.

At the end of the day it's a root vs Sachin thread and no just because his name is Sachin doesn't mean he's excused from comparisons.

Root is close to surpassing Sachin in runs and this phatta pak series has ensured that he'll end up scoring 500 to 600 runs in this series alone.

At the very least he'll reach no 2 in test runs if not no 1.

Comparisons like these will pop up, this isn't a Sachin vs Babar thread where it seems ridiculous.

I only see some dedicated Indian posters here like buffet that are actually bringing up solid facts like root lack of centuries in Australia, The quality of bowlers Sachin faced vs root, etc etc.

The rest is just trolling for the sake of trolling with every argument translating to," How dare you attack Sachin, We condemn you to the depths or Azkaban"
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I am a 90s kid and Sachin was our lone warrior for the longest time, he was a source of pride for Indians who were just finding their place in the world. Him and Vishwanathan Anand taught us that we can be the best in the world too.

Having said that, records are made to be broken.
 
Hellion said:
We lost in the final. Not the same as getting beaten up by record margins at home. And getting whitewashed at home by Bangladesh
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Ya same excuse popped up like I predicted you hypocrite.

Don't come back to me with such nonsense we wouldn't troll this and that again.

Remember, I'm the king at exposing such clownery. Where is that bravado when your God of cricket became captain and turned the team into a minnow, What's the excuse for this
 
mominsaigol said:
Ya same excuse popped up like I predicted you hypocrite.

Don't come back to me with such nonsense we wouldn't troll this and that again.

Remember, I'm the king at exposing such clownery.
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I didn't say we don't troll. Look at the relative positions of Indian and PAK cricket .
 
Hellion said:
I didn't say we don't troll. Look at the relative positions of Indian and PAK cricket .
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I never trolled anyone ever since I came on this forumn until you made me.

Their is no such justification for being a time waster and getting people triggered for the sake of it like a sociopathic clown.

Literally none, their is zero justification plain and simple. No amount of argument, no amount of chinta or excuse for such garbage behaviour.

When I came I only and I repeat only talked about aissie cricket and pak cricket and Indian cricket was talked about when the likes of major was trolling you lot and I called him out for it multiple times.

I made one thread about India asking if they would become an avg team after bumrah with zero ill intentions, Literally none, wasn't even related to pak, was related to sri lanka and was a polite topic, no trigger or any of that.

All of you clowns like vultures came and ransacked me 24/7, with aussie boy and other degenerative comments.

Do not play this game with me. I'm sick and tired of people telling me I started a war for attention when I made it clear why I started hating most of you filth.

Your fault, Your behavior. Not mine. To this day I find it hilarious on Indians being immigrants on pakistani threads thinking they it's their baap's medan
 
mominsaigol said:
I never trolled anyone ever since I came on this forumn until you made me.

Their is no such justification for being a time waster and getting people triggered for the sake of it like a sociopathic clown.

Literally none, their is zero justification plain and simple. No amount of argument, no amount of chinta or excuse for such garbage behaviour.

When I came I only and I repeat only talked about aissie cricket and pak cricket and Indian cricket was talked about when the likes of major was trolling you lot and I called him out for it multiple times.

I made one thread about India asking if they would become an avg team after bumrah with zero ill intentions, Literally none, wasn't even related to pak, was related to sri lanka and was a polite topic, no trigger or any of that.

All of you clowns like vultures came and ransacked me 24/7, with aussie boy and other degenerative comments.

Do not play this game with me. I'm sick and tired of people telling me I started a war for attention when I made it clear why I started hating most of you filth.

Your fault, Your behavior. Not mine. To this day I find it hilarious on Indians being immigrants on pakistani threads thinking they it's their baap's medan
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You are not the only PAK poster.
 
RahulBose said:
I am a 90s kid and Sachin was our lone warrior for the longest time, he was a source of pride for Indians who were just finding their place in the world. Him and Vishwanathan Anand taught us that we can be the best in the world too.

Having said that, records are made to be broken.
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Genuinely saying @Hellion for a nation that loves sachin and idolises the same gentlemen so much, they act the total opposite of him.

The funny thing is someone like me respects sachin more then all of you clowns combined, since I realistically scale him as no 1 in odi and no 2-5 in test.

I don't make folklores, and bully others when people ask me about said folklore and then hypocritically claim he belongs to us.

Oh chal mama, he doesn't even know you exist, would probs laugh at you lot.
 
mominsaigol said:
Genuinely saying @Hellion for a nation that loves sachin and idolises the same gentlemen so much, they act the total opposite of him.

The funny thing is someone like me respects sachin more then all of you clowns combined, since I realistically scale him as no 1 in odi and no 2-5 in test.

I don't make folklores, and bully others when people ask me about said folklore and then hypocritically claim he belongs to us.

Oh chal mama, he doesn't even know you exist, would probs laugh at you lot.
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Ok, very informative
 
Just a reminder that Root is still 3400 runs away from the little man. That is literally 25% of his career runs.

This thread is going to look so lame when Rooty boy walks away way short of the record in two years time leaving all his newfound sons dumbfounded. :ROFLMAO:
 
Hellion said:
You are not the only PAK poster.
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I am not a PAK poster to begin with and mominsaigol is not my real name. Genuinely honest to God it isn't, nor is the pfp me.

I know Urdu/Hindi however but can't write it in its actual format or read it either.

I'm mix, half pak, half aussie and have faced such comments from even my own pakistani brothers while I use to go to school in pakistan for the very brief time span I spent their in my youth.

So, I'm 100% half and half, and didn't wish to reveal this fact, but khair, now you guys know. Please next time don't say aussie boy or comment on this or say wannabe this and that.

I'm well aware of both cultures something Indian wannabies who spend times on forums talking to crap reddit users pretending to be aussies and suddenly assuming that their automatically aware of every thing in Australia when 90% of them don't even realise that Sydney at this point is literally half China is beyond hilarious to me.

So next time, you lot need to be calmer with me. Idc how you talk to others. Won't fly with me.
 
Joe Root is the new Paw-Paw I guess after Ponting, Inzi, Anwar, Lara, Kallis etc. apart from that I don’t know how to address this thread. Bizarre.
 
mominsaigol said:
I am not a PAK poster to begin with and mominsaigol is not my real name. Genuinely honest to God it isn't, nor is the pfp me.

I know Urdu/Hindi however but can't write it in its actual format or read it either.

I'm mix, half pak, half aussie and have faced such comments from even my own pakistani brothers while I use to go to school in pakistan for the very brief time span I spent their in my youth.

So, I'm 100% half and half, and didn't wish to reveal this fact, but khair, now you guys know. Please next time don't say aussie boy or comment on this or say wannabe this and that.

I'm well aware of both cultures something Indian wannabies who spend times on forums talking to crap reddit users pretending to be aussies and suddenly assuming that their automatically aware of every thing in Australia when 90% of them don't even realise that Sydney at this point is literally half China is beyond hilarious to me.

So next time, you lot need to be calmer with me. Idc how you talk to others. Won't fly with me.
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There is a famous dialogue “Ghum ka saathi Rum”. Very convenient you are half-Aussie, all the “Ghum” Pak team provided turns in Victorian Rum thanks to Aussies. :smith
 
Local.Dada said:
There is a famous dialogue “Ghum ka saathi Rum”. Very convenient you are half-Aussie, all the “Ghum” Pak team provided turns in Victorian Rum thanks to Aussies. :smith
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Convenient? Did I ask to be born? Choose my parents? The only control I had is naming myself on said forumn after a guy I dislike and having the pfp of another guy I dislike 🫠🫠.
 
mominsaigol said:
Convenient? Did I ask to be born? Choose my parents? The only control I had is naming myself on said forumn after a guy I dislike and having the pfp of another guy I dislike 🫠🫠.
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Bro I said that in a lighter note. Being half and half you can pick and chose :)

This is one of those threads I am just here for fun, nothing really constructive to discuss here.
 
Local.Dada said:
Bro I said that in a lighter note. Being half and half you can pick and chose :)

This is one of those threads I am just here for fun, nothing really constructive to discuss here.
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Ofcourse, just look at the OP.

Regardless, I maintain my stance. I pick and choose whoever. If one day I decide England is my team, Then England is my team.
 
sweep_shot said:
I expect some Indians to downplay Root's achievement. This is fully expected. LOL.
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To downplay, first he needs some achievement. Root at best will be one of English greats, he is still behind Cook. He will be famous like Hobbs, Hutton and Hammond, who are bonafide English greats, but hardly anyone knows them beyond the English channel.

The only close competitors of Sachin are Lara and Ponting, and they always come second and third best.
 
CricketCartoons said:
To downplay, first he needs some achievement. Root at best will be one of English greats, he is still behind Cook. He will be famous like Hobbs, Hutton and Hammond, who are bonafide English greats, but hardly anyone knows them beyond the English channel.

The only close competitors of Sachin are Lara and Ponting, and they always come second and third best.
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Root – 12,664 runs at 51.5
Ponting – 13,378 runs at 51.9

Cook is not even in the chat with Root, Ponting soon will be surpassed as well, do you know cricket existed beyond the 90s and 2000s? Viv, Sobers, Bradman, Hobbs are all in the greatest Batsmen ever chat, actually scratch that, Bradman is objectively number 1, everyone else is fighting for 2.
 
TheSultan said:
Paaji’s strike rate and average are nowhere near Wasim, Waqar and Imran.

But the crux of the matter is this - and you boys have fallen in to it head first.

I and a lot of pak fans have never claimed that quantity > quality. Our arguments have always been that little sachin’s QUANTITY of runs do NOT set him apart. He’s is exceeded in average and telling contributions by other greats of the game.

It’s YOU guys that are always arguing that his QUANTITY of runs set him apart!

And why we’re rooting for Root (excuse the pun) to break the QUANTITY of runs is not because we believe that alone sets him apart. It is that what will your next excuse be next?!

The meltdown is delicious!
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After yesterday’s humiliation against England, I don’t even have the heart to troll you guys anymore.

I’ll let you have this moment and stop here.
 
Joe Root has already cemented his name among the ATGs. He needs no intro and no propaganda can kill his legacy
 
Rajdeep said:
Same Root who is yet to score a century in Australia where Sachin had a ton as 18 year old facing ATG bowlers.
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Two actually on that tour. One on a slower pitch vs Warne and the other on the dreaded fast and bouncy Perth. That's why Australia fell in love with the 18-year-old for the rest of his cricketing life.
 
atreus said:
Root – 12,664 runs at 51.5
Ponting – 13,378 runs at 51.9

Cook is not even in the chat with Root, Ponting soon will be surpassed as well, do you know cricket existed beyond the 90s and 2000s? Viv, Sobers, Bradman, Hobbs are all in the greatest Batsmen ever chat, actually scratch that, Bradman is objectively number 1, everyone else is fighting for 2.
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Sorry to break it to you, but cricket is a sport which has no proper statistics. Most cricket fans are stats illiterate and think arithmetic mean is the ultimate metric of statistics.
 
This is definitely the most appropriate moment for a Pak fan to be really worried 24 × 7 about an english player's reputation being (allegedly) tarnished by a few media outlets based in India. And not bother about the team' performance at all.
 
TheRock said:
This is definitely the most appropriate moment for a Pak fan to be really worried 24 × 7 about an english player's reputation being (allegedly) tarnished by a few media outlets based in India. And not bother about the team' performance at all.
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Funny how Indian media couldn't tarnish the reputation of Brian Lara and Ricky Ponting.
 
Lara and Ponting never managed to surpass Tendulkar but Root will. That is the difference.

The reality is that no Indian fan, especially the older ones who lived through Tendulkar’s career ever thought that someone would overtake him as far as Test runs are concerned, he just seemed so far ahead of everyone else.

Then Kohli emerged and they started bandwagoning him because they have monopolized batting records but his Test career fell apart like the twin towers on 9/11, and Root who has long been degraded by them as an inferior batsman compared to Kohli and was even compared to Pujara at one point is now going to soar past Tendulkar.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Sorry to break it to you, but cricket is a sport which has no proper statistics. Most cricket fans are stats illiterate and think arithmetic mean is the ultimate metric of statistics.
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Yeah sure, Root is simply superior to Ponting by every concievable metric. Played in a far tougher era, his peak has lasted longer already, played with a far weaker team, much weaker home conditions, has all time great achievements against all forms of bowling while Ponting was weak to spin and on top, while Ponting spent 6 years being medicore, Root only has 3 of those years.

There is a reason Ponting was just a very good but not great Batsmen before the pitches got flat in 2000s and all the greats retired.
 
One thing if for certain, any Indian claiming not to care about Teenda's records is lying through their teeth - as proven in this thread.

They care so much that they find solace on a Pakistan forum!

In England there's a saying - got'em by the crown jewels - ha ha ha.
 
Hitman said:
Funny how Indian media couldn't tarnish the reputation of Brian Lara and Ricky Ponting.
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Indian media never tarnishes the reputation of anyone. Their not against any nation.

They only hype their cricketers into insane oblivion. So do pakistani's and so do other Asian countries like sri lanka I'm sure.

So yes while they haven't ever tarnished the reputation of anyone, If pointing was born in India or Lara, their stature would be overblown into insane proportions.

For example Micheal Clarke is the true test specialist and at one point was the no 1 ranked test player in the world. In odi he was just okay but his consistency carried over. However he's seen as a test specialist. Yet deapite this, he isn't seen as popular or hardly is ever mentioned despite even being a wc winning captain, Infact out of pointing, cummins, waugh, he's the least mentioned or credited, Deapite the fact that he turned a joke 2011 side into an atg 2015 team.

Yet deapite all of this, Someone like Laxman is more popular, And has been given crises man narratives even though in odi deapite playing 87 games, Indians don't view that as a fault and pull in the word Test specialist for him, Same with test cricket, No one talks about his inconsistency especially at opening in a bad light.

Now if you put laxman in Australia or any other country, These said narratives would not exist.

Indian media doesn't bother tarnishing other nations, but they do hype their own to insane proportions. That's a fact for every Asian nations and cannot be denied.
 
They continue to flock.

Teenda is destined to become a footnote in cricketing history. Slowly being dumped out of the top 10s, and soon the top spot, and quite rightly - a stats padding selfish batsman doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the top.

Thank god Wisden saw sense too, when awarding Kapil Dev Asian cricket of the century award. Thank God Wisden saw even more sense when they refused to include a single Tendulkar Test century in the all time top 100 centuries.

Any batsman with a highest Test score against Bangladesh, more centuries in losing causes, plays for records, tax evasion charges, ball tampering charges, perjury charges, selfish batting - deserves to be stripped of any award bestowed to him.
 
mominsaigol said:
Indian media never tarnishes the reputation of anyone. Their not against any nation.

They only hype their cricketers into insane oblivion. So do pakistani's and so do other Asian countries like sri lanka I'm sure.

So yes while they haven't ever tarnished the reputation of anyone, If pointing was born in India or Lara, their stature would be overblown into insane proportions.

For example Micheal Clarke is the true test specialist and at one point was the no 1 ranked test player in the world. In odi he was just okay but his consistency carried over. However he's seen as a test specialist. Yet deapite this, he isn't seen as popular or hardly is ever mentioned despite even being a wc winning captain, Infact out of pointing, cummins, waugh, he's the least mentioned or credited, Deapite the fact that he turned a joke 2011 side into an atg 2015 team.

Yet deapite all of this, Someone like Laxman is more popular, And has been given crises man narratives even though in odi deapite playing 87 games, Indians don't view that as a fault and pull in the word Test specialist for him, Same with test cricket, No one talks about his inconsistency especially at opening in a bad light.

Now if you put laxman in Australia or any other country, These said narratives would not exist.

Indian media doesn't bother tarnishing other nations, but they do hype their own to insane proportions. That's a fact for every Asian nations and cannot be denied.
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You are so wrong here.

Michael Clarke is way more popular than Laxman who is actually not even talked about much in his own country. People remember Dk, Pathan, Yuvraj, Raina, Rahane more than him.

He is literally one of the most underrrated cricketer in India, only purists talk about him.

Also you are wrong about Clarke being a test specialist too, Clarke has played 245 ODIs, Laxman played 80 odd. There's no reason to call Clarke a test specialist.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
You are so wrong here.

Michael Clarke is way more popular than Laxman who is actually not even talked about much in his own country. People remember Dk, Pathan, Yuvraj, Raina, Rahane more than him.

He is literally one of the most underrrated cricketer in India, only purists talk about him.

Also you are wrong about Clarke being a test specialist too, Clarke has played 245 ODIs, Laxman played 80 odd. There's no reason to call Clarke a test specialist.
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Dil Khush Karnei ki Lyei, tu bilkul Sahi hai Ghalib.
 
Romali_rotti said:
We should have new a thread: PM Modi vs SRT.

which one of these 2 will live rent free in Pakistani Heads the longest...


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Lmao .. all this time I thought our neighbours didn't really care about these all time stats and records held by Sachin. They always used to say "We don't care about these stats... only match winning performances matter". .

But this thread all but proves that they've been hiding their pain away nicely for decades. Don't know how they're gonna cope when Root makes omelettes on their faces by walking away well short. :ROFLMAO:
 
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TheRock said:
After losing to USA, Ireland, Afghan, BD & Eng (inning defeat on a home made road), all in a space of just 6 months, this is their latest coping mechanism.
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I think all ppers became "no one" from got.they will wear any one's mask even though their size does not fit well
 
Mesozoic said:
Lmao ..all this time I thought our neighbours didn't really care about these all time stats and records held by Sachin. They always used to say "We don't care about these stats...only match winning performances matter". .

But this thread all but proves that they've been hiding their pain away nicely for decades. Don't know how they're gonna cope when Root makes omelettes on their faces by walking away well short. :ROFLMAO:
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They were always obsessed with SRT. Can't blame them though, he is the greatest of all time, jealousy is a human behaviour...
 
Romali_rotti said:
They were always obsessed with SRT. Can't blame them though, he is the greatest of all time, jealousy is a human behaviour...
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They still suffer from a notion that to get under the skin of Bhartiya fans, you must attack Tendulkar. A desperate attempt to take their minds off humiliations being dished out at home.

Root may or may not break Tendulkar's Test record, i dont see anyone losing sleep over it.
 
Root still has some way to go, and let's hope he doesn't opt for an early retirement like Cook. In theory, he can play a good 5-6 more years and that should be enough to take his runs past Sachin.

From FAB 4 to GOAT- that's the ultimate journey for Root.
 
Hikaru said:
They still suffer from a notion that to get under the skin of Bhartiya fans, you must attack Tendulkar. A desperate attempt to take their minds off humiliations being dished out at home.

Root may or may not break Tendulkar's Test record, i dont see anyone losing sleep over it.
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I personally hope Root takes the record. Records are meant to be broken, that is what sport is all about.

Now back to our Pakistani friends, I feel bad for them, India/Indians in general are living in their heads rent free..

It's a bad situation for them, their country is finished, cricket team is beyond pathetic, they genuinely have nothing to feel good about. If living in Denial about SRT gives them some happiness and peace in these hours of darkness, then just let it be
 
atreus said:
Yeah sure, Root is simply superior to Ponting by every concievable metric. Played in a far tougher era, his peak has lasted longer already, played with a far weaker team, much weaker home conditions, has all time great achievements against all forms of bowling while Ponting was weak to spin and on top, while Ponting spent 6 years being medicore, Root only has 3 of those years.

There is a reason Ponting was just a very good but not great Batsmen before the pitches got flat in 2000s and all the greats retired.
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Root played in a far tougher era than Ponting? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Pakistan was once a great cricketing side. But now they are in the toilet, having been overtaken by everyone including Bangladesh. So going by @Mamoon s argument, every team in the world should be afraid of travelling to Pakistan. Pakistani fans who cannot stomach their own team's decline would try to hurt the reputation or the lives of the other teams.
 
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gani999 said:
Pakistan was once a great cricketing side. But now they are in the toilet, having been overtaken by everyone including Bangladesh. So going by @Mamoon s argument, every team in the world should be afraid of travelling to Pakistan. Pakistani fans who cannot stomach their own team's decline would try to hurt the reputation or the lives of the other teams.
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So that exposes your hypocrisy. When he was basically singing the tune to your narrative it was all fine?
 
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aboveandbeyond said:
So that exposes your hypocrisy. When he was basically singing the tune to your narrative it was all fine?
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Mamoon has criticised Indian cricket in the past. Many times. I might or might not have agreed with him but always respected his forthright opinions and his scholarship regarding the game.

I would have appreciated it if the had come up with a good argument as to why Joe Root would overtake SRT.
 
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gani999 said:
Mamoon has criticised Indian cricket in the past. Many times. I might or might not have agreed with him but always respected his forthright opinions and his scholarship regarding the game.

I would have appreciated it if the had come up with a good argument as to why Joe Root would overtake SRT.
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I do agree with your point on the Root overtaking Tendulkar argument.
 
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CricketCartoons said:
Root played in a far tougher era than Ponting? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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aboveandbeyond said:
Either These Root fanboys are trolling or are plain clueless
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I see, a bunch of you are too young to know reality, anyway, here is reality, I'll gladly inform you of it, here is the world during Ponting's prime.

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Overall Average – 32.63, the free highway era
here is the world during Root's prime
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Overall Average – 29.11, the Pace Pandemic

now I actually watch the game, so I'd know that the pitches in Ashes 2021 were the spiciest wickets developed in Australia since the 1980s, and that India/Lanka have been pure rank turners tailor crafted for spinners for here, Windies having a competent home bowling attack not spear headed by Fidel Edwards aka the windies Ponting performed again (wasn't good enough to perform against Ambrose or Walsh), SA have been green mambas consistently as the Indian tours would show and the only place flat has been Pakistan and maybe Newzealand.

so Yes, Ponting batted and peaked in the highway era, the easiest era ever when all the greats had retired. Root peaked in the pace pandemic era, the hardest era since the start of the second world war.

Next.
 
here are more facts for yall to cope with, we know that 90s was difficult to bat until 2000, here are the stats of the best batters of 2000s in 90s

Kallis
in 90s – 41
in 2000s – 60

Ponting
in 90s – 44
In 2000s – 55

Inzamam
in 90s – 43
in 2000s – 55

Dravid
in 90s – 49
in 2000s – 53

Hayden
in 90s – 21, barely selected
in 2000s – 52

more facts? here you go


number of 50 avg Batsmen in 1990s – 5
Number of 50 avg batsmen in 2000s – 21
number of 50 avg Batsmen in 2010s – like 6, 4 real ones.
 
Of course Indian fans will now and try and undermine Root's achievements, all because he is closing in on Tendulkar's record, a record which Indians do not care about, apparently.

At the end of the day both Root and Ponting are match winners, something which Tendulkar never was, plus Root and Ponting have scored more Test centuries in winning causes than Tendulkar.

Ponting/Root > daylight > Tendulkar.
 
atreus said:
here are more facts for yall to cope with, we know that 90s was difficult to bat until 2000, here are the stats of the best batters of 2000s in 90s

Kallis
in 90s – 41
in 2000s – 60

Ponting
in 90s – 44
In 2000s – 55

Inzamam
in 90s – 43
in 2000s – 55

Dravid
in 90s – 49
in 2000s – 53

Hayden
in 90s – 21, barely selected
in 2000s – 52

more facts? here you go


number of 50 avg Batsmen in 1990s – 5
Number of 50 avg batsmen in 2000s – 21
number of 50 avg Batsmen in 2010s – like 6, 4 real ones.
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What's your point
 
gani999 said:
Pakistan was once a great cricketing side. But now they are in the toilet, having been overtaken by everyone including Bangladesh. So going by @Mamoon s argument, every team in the world should be afraid of travelling to Pakistan. Pakistani fans who cannot stomach their own team's decline would try to hurt the reputation or the lives of the other teams.
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Brutal.

Love it.
 
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