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Virat Kohli now has 11 tons in ODI chases only behind SRT (who has 17)

Kohli is now ahead of Ponting (8 tons), Lara (9 tons) , Anwar (10 tons), Gilchrist (8 tons), Gayle (11 tons) , Jayasuriya (10 tons), Inzamam (4 tons)

Mindboggling! He is just 25, how many more to go?? :kohli

Is he the greatest ODI run chaser in history?
 
All thanks to Indian bowlers...

P.S. We're seriously missing memes of legends like :ishant and :vinay :)))
 
Only if Junaid Khan isn't playing and the pitch is flat and the opposition bowling is poor.

It has to be either Dhoni or Bevan.
 
Big Mac said:
Michael Bevan

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Kohli has already scored more runs in ODI chases (3191) than Bevan did in his 11 year career (2882) :kohli

Of course there's a gulf of difference in the bowling attacks both faced but still, Kohli's numbers are out of the world for a 25 year old.
 
Credit goes to Indian bowlers for giving him opportunity to chase 300+ almost daily :yk. On serious note, he must be up there.
 
nobody is better than Bevan. He was in a different league than Dhoni or Kohli. No comparison.
 
Kohli does extremely well on good batting decks, I'm not taking anything away from him because at the end of the day pressure of runs is something that gets to you but Kohli doesn't let it affect him, he has been involved in some mind boggling run chases, definitely one of the best but I still have doubts if he can do it on difficult wickets.
 
srh said:
nobody is better than Bevan. He was in a different league than Dhoni or Kohli. No comparison.
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Why no comparision?He too had a side filled with star-studded players up and down the order with a much more potent attack than India.It is never too easy to chase 350 odd runs against Johnson and Watson who by the way made Raina and Yuvraj look out of sorts again in this match
 
Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

srh said:
nobody is better than Bevan. He was in a different league than Dhoni or Kohli. No comparison.
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On what basis? Bevan was great in his time but others are now better than him. Lets compare their stats in ODI's

Bevan:

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Kohli:

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Bevan played double the matches Kohli has but has only 6 hundreds to his name. Kohli is now in another league.
 
in_cutter said:
On what basis? Bevan was great in his time but others are now better than him. Lets compare their stats in ODI's

Bevan:

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Kohli:

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Bevan played double the matches Kohli has but has only 6 hundreds to his name. Kohli is now in another league.
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Kind of obvious as Bevan batted at No.6 and Kohli bats at No.3.
 
in_cutter said:
On what basis? Bevan was great in his time but others are now better than him. Lets compare their stats in ODI's

Bevan:

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Kohli:

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Bevan played double the matches Kohli has but has only 6 hundreds to his name. Kohli is now in another league.
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typical paindoo comparison not considering pitches, conditions, rules changes, opposition bowling quality etc.

Bevan is the best ODI run chaser ever and in a different league than any other run chaser.
Same way like Bradman is the best batsman ever and in a different league than any other batsman.
 
srh said:
typical paindoo comparison not considering pitches, conditions, rules changes, opposition bowling quality etc.

Bevan is the best ODI run chaser ever and in a different league than any other run chaser.
Same way like Bradman is the best batsman ever and in a different league than any other batsman.
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Not considering bowlers/conditions/opposition bowling quality of in case of Bradman.Are we?


Please prove stat wise that Bevan is better than Dhoni or Kohli as a finisher in ODIS.How much does Bevan avg and how much do Kohli and Dhoni avg?
 
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Statistics375 said:
Kind of obvious as Bevan batted at No.6 and Kohli bats at No.3.
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Exactly. Number 6s typically do not score a lot of tons.

That's not their job.

You are mixing up finishing with scoring hundreds. They are completely irrelevant.
 
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srh said:
nobody is better than Bevan. He was in a different league than Dhoni or Kohli. No comparison.
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Actually Dhoni can and should be compared to Bevan.

I rate Dhoni quite a few spots higher than Bevan. I rate Hussey above Bevan also.
 
Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

srh said:
typical paindoo comparison not considering pitches, conditions, rules changes, opposition bowling quality etc.

Bevan is the best ODI run chaser ever and in a different league than any other run chaser.
Same way like Bradman is the best batsman ever and in a different league than any other batsman.
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Typical paindoo response. Then why are you not considering conditions, opposition quality etc during Bradman's era? You can only play against what is in front of you, you can only play on what conditions are on offer- that's not Kohli's fault- it still takes skill to achieve what Kohli has in be career thus far. Ok, Bevan at 6 is expected to have less hundreds. But still Kohli>>>Bevan.
 
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As a finisher Dhoni is miles ahead of anyone, he's proven it time and again how he can finish it all alone and if anything his knock in the World cup final seals the deal.

Kohli's stats are scary, he's churning up numbers with ease which some top players have only managed over a decade. He seems to be in a different league.
 
Both Bevan and Kohli are batsmen made for different occasions. For example if my team is at 42/6 in 15 overs chasing 185, then I will choose Bevan over Kohli.

And if my team is at 10/1 in 5 overs chasing 330, then I will choose Kohli over Bevan.
 
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He continues to take his game up a notch time and time again. Beast of a bat in LOIs, especially when chasing. Brilliant to watch.
 
"I love watching Virat Kohli bat. He looks to me like an individual of my own heart. I love his aggression, and [he has] serious passion that I used to have. He reminds me of myself," Richards told PTI. "He is an individual who doesn't back off from confrontation; someone who can stand his ground under pressure. I love that as you can't teach these instinctive aspects."
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:viv
 
Its crazy to compare Bevan and Kohli...one was a middle order batsman and the other is a top order batsmen...Kohli is not a finisher...he is just excellent when chasing down a total..Dhoni is the best finisher in ODIs..period.
 
If kohli continues the blistering form hes in then he will go down as one of the greatest finishers of all time, hes got all the shots in the book and the tempremant to go with it! Hes a joy to watch when hes playing like he is now!
 
scary thing is that Kohli is the only number 3 batsman who is also the greatest finisher ever.
 
The thing is that with bevan and dhoni their role in the team is as a finisher.
but with kohli he's a no.3 bat who is not exactly supposed to finish off matches as per se,atleast not at such an alarming rate!!
The very fact that we are considering him to be equal or even better than two specialist finishers,goes to show what a great one-day batsman he is!!
 
battler said:
The thing is that with bevan and dhoni their role in the team is as a finisher.
but with kohli he's a no.3 bat who is not exactly supposed to finish off matches as per se,atleast not at such an alarming rate!!
The very fact that we are considering him to be equal or even better than two specialist finishers,goes to show what a great one-day batsman he is!!
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Killer point.
 
He's world class. Is talented, excellent cricketing brain and works hard in becoming better and better. Wish I had him in our team. So jealous!
 
Some folks are confusing chaser with finisher here.

Kohli has been finishing matches but his role is not of a finisher. Best finisher in history of ODI plays with him and he comes at number 6. Kohli is probably one of the best chaser in top order. I haven't seen too many guys playing like him while chasing.

Which other top order batsman has comparable record as Kohli while chasing? He has perfect temperament for chasing.
 
Don't think many people talk about Bevan except on PP and that also only to counter the growing aura of Dhoni or Kohli as if they can stop Kohli from becoming great. Have you ever seen any great cricketer recalling Bevan these days? No. Has ever Bevan played innings like Kohli has already? 180+ against arch rivals pakistan, 170+ against Lanka, and a string of 100s. No. Bevan was an excellent cricketer, so were a lot of others including Steve Waugh, Inzi, Ganguly, Jayasyra, Desilva etc. 10 years down the line, people will talk about Kohli, and chances are people will talk about Kohli even 20 years down the line. No one talks about Bevan now.
 
Robbie said:
utter failure!
compare their avg in run chases.
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keep dreaming... bevan has done it in world cups consistently and has played against better bowling on more livelier pitches ......even tho kohli is batting on roads his average is still lower than bevan ...... :yk let me know when kohli has a better average and done it in wold cups matches but hey keep worshipping kohli bevan is simply better without a doubt ask any cricket fan who watched bevan and make sure they not indian :davthen you would see who the master really is !:amir
 
Kholi is better than Bevan when the grounds are tiny and the tracks are flat and fielding restrictions apply, Bevan is better when the grounds are bigger and the tracks are suited to fast bowling.
 
You can debate guy hasn't faced greats of ODI :wasim
You can debate he has played on flat tracks :don
You can say he is :junaid 's bunny#fact

BUT

HE IS A BEAST. FEARLESS. TEARS APART BOWLING ATTACKS and Wins the game. An ODI ATG 4sure

PS: mentioning U.Akmal and his name in same phrase is an insult to this great batsman., ANS THAT'S COMING FROM A PAK FAN
 
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Kholi average is third best for his era, about 2.5 runs behind Alma.

Bevan was top for his era by about 6 runs.
 
no point debating kohli v bevan he is INFERIOR to bevan and always will be.......Amla and AB are better odi players than this kohli FACT ..they dont need to finish games because they set up victorys when the ball is fresh and there is more chance of getting out.
 
Gilly said:
Kholi average is third best for his era, about 2.5 runs behind Alma.

Bevan was top for his era by about 6 runs.
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But thread is not about comparing Kohi and Bevan. It's about best chasers. Kohli is not even top a 3-4 batman in ODI yet. I rate Srt, Viv, Dhoni and Bevan higher.

Here is record of everyone while chasing,

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...0;qualval1=runs;template=results;type=batting

Kid has played so many sensational knocks while chasing that he has to be right up there among best chasers in ODI. He already has more sensational knocks while chasing than many great batsmen had it in their entire career.
 
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Il just highlight a few facts for the indians....and other kohli lovers :D bevan batted 196 innings and was not out 67 times....so a 3rd of the time he remained NOT OUT......kohli has batted 112 times and was NOT OUT only 18 times.... nearly one sixth of the time......this tells you he gets out before the job is done!! BBM that to the billions in india BEVAN BETTER by MILES!!! :D
 
Carlito said:
.and other kohli lovers :D bevan batted 196 innings and was not out 67 times....so a 3rd of the time he remained NOT OUT......kohli has batted 112 times and was NOT OUT only 18 times.... nearly one sixth of the time......this tells you he gets out before the job is done!!
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And Vaas remained not out 72 out of 220 innings :akhtar

On serious note, you are missing the whole point of this thread. It's about chasers. Kohli is not really great when batting first. He is fantastic when chasing. His role is also not to finish games by remaining not out.

Also, likes of Dhoni/Bevan played a finisher role and higher not outs are expected from a good finisher. Kohli comes at #3. It's credit to him that people are looking at his not outs and finishing ability even when he comes at number 3.
 
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eradicator said:
Both Bevan and Kohli are batsmen made for different occasions. For example if my team is at 42/6 in 15 overs chasing 185, then I will choose Bevan over Kohli.

And if my team is at 10/1 in 5 overs chasing 330, then I will choose Kohli over Bevan.
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cuz obv Kholi has already been dismissed. comparing a guy who bats 1 down to 5 down is not fair. 5 down has alot more pressure not to mention a lot less balls to face in order to set in. granted Kholi is one of the best in the game right now, Bevan's uncanny ability to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat is still comparable
 
Carlito said:
Il just highlight a few facts for the indians....and other kohli lovers :D bevan batted 196 innings and was not out 67 times....so a 3rd of the time he remained NOT OUT......kohli has batted 112 times and was NOT OUT only 18 times.... nearly one sixth of the time......this tells you he gets out before the job is done!! BBM that to the billions in india BEVAN BETTER by MILES!!! :D
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1.

Kohli bats at no.3

Bevan batted at no.6

Who has more chances of facing the new ball?

2.Kohli has batted less innings than Bevan as batsman chasing and avgs 9 points more with a SR of 90.

3.Bevan's SR of 67 while chasing wont even get him into a team these days.

This thread is not about who is the best finisher.The best finisher comes at no.6 and is Kohli's captain.

This is about the best chaser,the one who sets up the game for the finisher to finish.
 
Obviously he is the best chaser and ODI batsman at present, certainly he is the best ever ODI batsman from India, at present he is right up there with Viv, surely by the time he retires he will most likely concrete his name as the best ever in ODI!
 
cricketjoshila said:
1.

Kohli bats at no.3

Bevan batted at no.6

Who has more chances of facing the new ball?

2.Kohli has batted less innings than Bevan as batsman chasing and avgs 9 points more with a SR of 90.

3.Bevan's SR of 67 while chasing wont even get him into a team these days.

This thread is not about who is the best finisher.The best finisher comes at no.6 and is Kohli's captain.

This is about the best chaser,the one who sets up the game for the finisher to finish.
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You are giving serious reply to a troll? lol. good luck.
 
Untouchables_666 said:
Obviously he is the best chaser and ODI batsman at present, certainly he is the best ever ODI batsman from India, at present he is right up there with Viv, surely by the time he retires he will most likely concrete his name as the best ever in ODI!
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Ah, no. Long way to go for both. He may not be even in top 5 yet. He is surely right up there as a chaser though. He is not that good while batting first.
 
Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

Carlito said:
Il just highlight a few facts for the indians....and other kohli lovers :D bevan batted 196 innings and was not out 67 times....so a 3rd of the time he remained NOT OUT......kohli has batted 112 times and was NOT OUT only 18 times.... nearly one sixth of the time......this tells you he gets out before the job is done!! BBM that to the billions in india BEVAN BETTER by MILES!!! :D
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And also would like to highlight that Kohli is a num3 batsman- so naturally would have less not outs.
 
This guy is unbelievable, have the utmost respect for his batting. Most Pakistan supporters in this thread will say Bevan just because Kohli is Indian but deep down they would kill for a player like him.
 
Chasing has been made far easier these days. So no i don't think he is.

Just thinking about the absolute slaughter there would be if Viv Richards played with todays powder puff rules and hard flat wickets.
 
Untouchables_666 said:
Obviously he is the best chaser and ODI batsman at present, certainly he is the best ever ODI batsman from India, at present he is right up there with Viv, surely by the time he retires he will most likely concrete his name as the best ever in ODI!
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He wouldn't be doing what hes doing in the same conditions Viv played in.
 
Dhoni is a better chaser than him. Virat chases very well in batting friendly conditions. But Dhoni can do it in tougher situations, when other batsmen fail.
 
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Dhoni's the best. Yes kohli's probably the more complete batsman, but when you want runs under pressure back against the wall, Dhoni is the better option.
 
Feel quite proud to be Indian. One day MSD hits a hundred and he seems to be the greatest, then another day Yuvraj does something incredible and you forget about these titles, then another day Kohli hits a hundred and seems fit to take over from Sachin. Then you have Shikhar Dhawan going strong like a new Mattty Hayden.
 
Space Cat said:
Chasing has been made far easier these days. So no i don't think he is.

Just thinking about the absolute slaughter there would be if Viv Richards played with todays powder puff rules and hard flat wickets.
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Space Cat said:
He wouldn't be doing what hes doing in the same conditions Viv played in.
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This is all just speculation with no real evidence or support.
 
India play so many ODIs on roads at home so obviously their batsmen will score lot of 100s. :kohli is just weak bowler basher on flat tracks. Not too long ago :junaid showed how good :kohli is against good bowlers on decent pitches.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Feel quite proud to be Indian. One day MSD hits a hundred and he seems to be the greatest, then another day Yuvraj does something incredible and you forget about these titles, then another day Kohli hits a hundred and seems fit to take over from Sachin. Then you have Shikhar Dhawan going strong like a new Mattty Hayden.
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Totally agree :19:
 
@ Khalil1986....Respect to your post!!! even some Indian fans go mental instead of appreciating some Pakistani legends...there are always some fans who are like that on both sides.
 
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Kohli is a beast, if i had to choose an ODI batsman at the moment, would pick him every single time. :kohli
 
Too early to say that Kohli is the best, anyways Kohli is too young and did not have many failures in his career
 
That would be Bevan and Klusner.

Will judge Kohli and other playing contenders after they retire.
 
So far he is still number 3 in my book after Dhoni and Bevan , but that could change in couple of years. If he continues same form next few years. People gonna compare him with Richards.
 
As a chaser, I rate Dhoni higher. He's done it in much more difficult circumstances and on bigger stages. Bevan, Kohli, Dhoni and Inzi are all some great chasers though.
 
but but but......a chase is only complete when the last run is scored!! therefore this fact kohli bats at 3 doesnt hold any weight because if he gets out he hasnt chased the runs.....just made a contribution....bevans average 53 more not outs more pessure world cup matches says he is the best chaser of runs by far!!
 
"Best chaser" is just one of those made up things Indian crew like to pin on their players, when normal stats will not create enough hero worshipping.....
 
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