[PICTURES] Is Virat Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

[Punish3r]

this thread just cracks me up.......best ever )

 

[battler]

this thread just cracks me up.......best ever )

Maybe if u could go check his records,his batting innings and his age,u might not find it as funny as to why people think he might become the best ever in odi's.

 

[Gangnam]

He is by far the best ODI batsman currently and should easily surpass Tendulkars ODI hundreds record.

 

[Sandeep]

I was just pondering about Kohli's achievements in ODIs.. Just imagine if he was to retire from that format NOW to concentrate on test matches . 18 centuries across different countries! Also part of the World Cup winning team and Champions Trophy winning team. has already achieved everything there could be in ODI arena. It is all about sustaining legacy now. That is the way I see it.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Kohli roxxx

 

[Convict]

I was just pondering about Kohli's achievements in ODIs.. Just imagine if he was to retire from that format NOW to concentrate on test matches . 18 centuries across different countries! Also part of the World Cup winning team and Champions Trophy winning team. has already achieved everything there could be in ODI arena. It is all about sustaining legacy now. That is the way I see it.

Only won the one world cup.

Ponting laughs at that.

 

[Sandeep]

Only won the one world cup.

Ponting laughs at that.

Haha. He has tasted that success in his home country and savored every bit of it with his cricket mad country men.. Something the God could do only in the fag end of his career..! No need to get greedy

 

[Punish3r]

Maybe if u could go check his records,his batting innings and his age,u might not find it as funny as to why people think he might become the best ever in odi's.

epic

 

[IndianWillow]

At least after today's NZ performance.... Posters here must accept that he is better player than Umar akmal :umarakmal ..

Be Honest please

Are you trolling?

 

[IndianWillow]

I was just pondering about Kohli's achievements in ODIs.. Just imagine if he was to retire from that format NOW to concentrate on test matches . 18 centuries across different countries! Also part of the World Cup winning team and Champions Trophy winning team. has already achieved everything there could be in ODI arena. It is all about sustaining legacy now. That is the way I see it.

I am afraid you are wrong. If Kohli seriously declines in ODIs from now ( chances are very low) he will not be regarded as a ODI great inspite of his current records, because he has not played for a reasonable period of time - his records would be viewed as an incredible early peak. Kohli has to continue his ways for at least four or five years before he will be viewed as a batsman who could hold his own over a sustained period. Then he will definitely be viewed as an ATG in ODIs, and perhaps even as the GOAT.

 

[fatichar]

Re: Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

I am afraid you are wrong. If Kohli seriously declines in ODIs from now ( chances are very low) he will not be regarded as a ODI great inspite of his current records, because he has not played for a reasonable period of time - his records would be viewed as an incredible early peak. Kohli has to continue his ways for at least four or five years before he will be viewed as a batsman who could hold his own over a sustained period. Then he will definitely be viewed as an ATG in ODIs, and perhaps even as the GOAT.

He said retire, not decline. Retiring nkw means hia greatness is locked.

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[ali2220]

Kholi needs to score a big hundred today to square the series as Indian bowlers are again getting blasted.

 

[adit_sh]

Looks like Kohli of this decade is like SRT of 90s........Wish India had better bowlers :-(

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Repeating the same stuff and expecting different results is insanity


Change the bowling line up FFS

 

[Aman]

Law of averages will catch up to India, Kohli can't always score 100.

 

[Stark]

1) Law of averages will catch up to India
2) Kohli can't always score 100.

Thank you captain obvious.

 

[Aman]

Thank you captain obvious.

No problem

 

[Aman]

Anyways I think the inswinger is one thing that should be tried against Kohli, just need to be careful not to get too straight or he'll punish you.

 

[ali2220]

Law of averages will catch up to India, Kohli can't always score 100.

Right, besides a batting side like India shouldn't always depend on Kholi and Dhoni, others needs to step up, maybe Raina or some other player will play a big knock.

 

[Abhilash]

Right, besides a batting side like India shouldn't always depend on Kholi and Dhoni, others needs to step up, maybe Raina or some other player will play a big knock.

u kidding

 

[smoothcriminal]

Boss

 

[James]

But but Amla is better cos of his average against West Indies.

lol

 

[Haripotter]

is such an head ache to bowlers .... Can't imagine how one must be feeling

 

[Strike Rate]

But but Amla is better cos of his average against West Indies.

lol

James sometime you pretend like a kid when it comes to south african players kohli might be better than amla in odi now but there is not a single english player who is better than amla in odi or tests

 

[Strike Rate]

and the chaser gone again ) memories of 90s

 

[Dr_Bassim]

and the chaser gone again ) memories of 90s

What the hell do you expect him to do ?

Scored 113 runs in the first match and 78 off 65 balls in the second.

Gave the innings momentum when it was stagnating out.

Put India in a position of command.

If anything, the only reason India are making a match out of this is his innings.

So instead of laughing and comparing him to Tendulkar, check out his ODI average and his consistent success.

I swear some Pakistanis just want to troll Indian players at every opportunity they get.

 

[Strike Rate]

I swear some Pakistanis just want to troll Indian players at every opportunity they get.

just like you troll pakistani fans on every opportunity you get

 

[Dr_Bassim]

just like you troll pakistani fans on every opportunity you get

I don't troll.

If I said, Pakistan can't score 300 in 59 overs I said it based on logic and realism.

That they did otherwise was an ATG win.

ATG wins are not expected day in and day out. Otherwise they would not be called ATG.

And I was the one at every thread saying I am eating humble pie for saying it won't happen because it did.

Still think I'm trolling? Suit yourself.

 

[Strike Rate]

I don't troll.

If I said, Pakistan can't score 300 in 59 overs I said it based on logic and realism.

That they did otherwise was an ATG win.

ATG wins are not expected day in and day out. Otherwise they would not be called ATG.

And I was the one at every thread saying I am eating humble pie for saying it won't happen because it did.

Still think I'm trolling? Suit yourself.

i am not talking about that post of 300 i am talking about your usual posts

 

[Haripotter]

Are you trolling?

Don't that comment scream troll

 

[Dr_Bassim]

i am not talking about that post of 300 i am talking about your usual posts

Point a specific post where I trolled a Pakistani fan.

Usually I am defending myself against blatant accusations for being pessimistic and anti-Pakistani.

If that's trolling to you, I would like to think you don't know the real meaning of the word troll.

 

[Fahdi]

This guy is a beast. Got out today but what a player.

 

[battler]

kohli try karte karte mar jayega but dhoni will still keep both his favourite sharma's in the team

 

[ali2220]

is such an head ache to bowlers .... Can't imagine how one must be feeling

I honestly think, its the Indian bowlers that are a headace to Kholi.

I feel a bit sad today, 2 great innings by him yet couldn't see his side through all coz of terrible bowling and dumb captaincy.

 

[battler]

If dhoni has any shame left he will drop ishant and play aaron in the next match.

 

[Aman]

If dhoni has any shame left he will drop ishant and play aaron in the next match.

Please do it, for once we'll stop hearing of Ishant and start hearing more of this Aaron and how rubbish he is

 

[Punish3r]

failing to get over the team over the line continuosly now......bevan was the best ever!!

 

[battler]

One of jadeja or ashwin need to go as well,never thought i would say this but the time has come to introduce binny.

 

[battler]

failing to get over the team over the line continuosly now......bevan was the best ever!!

ok whatever helps u sleep at night and continously ignore the fact that kohli bats at #3 and bevan batted at 6.

 

[Indiafan]

failing to get over the team over the line continuosly now......bevan was the best ever!!

So how many times did Bevan have to make 125 plus to win a match, lol.

And lol at continuously when most of his innings and 100s in chases have led to India's win. Kuch log nahi sudhrenge

 

[Punish3r]

But but Amla is better cos of his average against West Indies.

lol

amlas overall average and strike rate is better than kohlis

 

[Punish3r]

So how many times did Bevan have to make 125 plus to win a match, lol.

And lol at continuously when most of his innings and 100s in chases have led to India's win. Kuch log nahi sudhrenge

the scores in odi cricket were not as high back then 300 back then was like getting 380 now.......superior bowlers perhaps also bevan batted lower down the order so how can he make 120s lool

 

[Abhilash]

Ignorance is bliss!!

 

[Amjid Javed]

Kohil is a class act and pretty much at rate hes going will break a hell of a lot of ODI batting records.

 

[Aman]

Kohil is a class act and pretty much at rate hes going will break a hell of a lot of ODI batting records.

Yep, he had the match wrapped up but threw it away with a poor shot.

 

[Punish3r]

Kohil is a class act and pretty much at rate hes going will break a hell of a lot of ODI batting records.

misbah averages more than kohli away from home _old

 

[Dr_Bassim]

misbah averages more than kohli away from home _old

Seriously, now you think Misbah is better than Kohli?

Or was it just a joke comparison?

 

[Punish3r]

Seriously, now you think Misbah is better than Kohli?

Or was it just a joke comparison?

its a fact and in my opinion the position he finds himself in makes him better than kohli.......he is always having to dig pakistan out of a mess.....misbah is definately a better test player than kohli put it that way._old

 

[IndianWillow]

its a fact and in my opinion the position he finds himself in makes him better than kohli.......he is always having to dig pakistan out of a mess.....misbah is definately a better test player than kohli put it that way._old

Hmm, so a guy who found it difficult to find a spot in a not so brilliant Pakistani batting lineup till the age of 33 is better than a young chap who is already on the way to an ATG status in multiple formats of the game! Misbah is a late bloomer, just had a couple of great years in his career. By the time Kohli is finished he would have left Misbah far behind.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

its a fact and in my opinion the position he finds himself in makes him better than kohli.......he is always having to dig pakistan out of a mess.....misbah is definately a better test player than kohli put it that way._old

How many centuries Misbah has outside Asia?What did Misbah do in SA in tests?

 

[Punish3r]

Hmm, so a guy who found it difficult to find a spot in a not so brilliant Pakistani batting lineup till the age of 33 is better than a young chap who is already on the way to an ATG status in multiple formats of the game! Misbah is a late bloomer, just had a couple of great years in his career. By the time Kohli is finished he would have left Misbah far behind.

lets see if kohli is putting the numbers up misbah is at 40! and we all know politics plays apart in team selection misbah was unlucky things happen lets see if kohli can match misbah at 40....doubt it )

 

[Bilal7]

Yes, Kohli is probably one of the greatest ODI chasers ever along with Inzi and Hussey from recent times.

 

[IndianWillow]

lets see if kohli is putting the numbers up misbah is at 40! and we all know politics plays apart in team selection misbah was unlucky things happen lets see if kohli can match misbah at 40....doubt it )

Kohli is just 25. Misbah does not have much time left - if the past and present is any indication, Kohli would have easily raced ahead of Misbah by the time he is 30 years old.

 

[Cricket-Pundit]

Guys, Please don't feed the trolls!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

lets see if kohli is putting the numbers up misbah is at 40! and we all know politics plays apart in team selection misbah was unlucky things happen lets see if kohli can match misbah at 40....doubt it )

What do you mean by match Misbah at 40?

By 40 Kohli would have atleast scored 2-3 timez the runs Misbah has scored.Kohli already hss more runs in Odis at a better avg and SR.

 

[Punish3r]

Kohli is just 25. Misbah does not have much time left - if the past and present is any indication, Kohli would have easily raced ahead of Misbah by the time he is 30 years old.

errrr that not what i said.....i asked if kohli would do the same at aged 40. imagine misbah was 25 what number would he churn out doesn't bear thinking about

 

[Punish3r]

misbah averages 61.4 as captain dat ist phenomenal

 

[Punish3r]

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=195636

go to this thread about misbah

 

[IndianWillow]

errrr that not what i said.....i asked if kohli would do the same at aged 40. imagine misbah was 25 what number would he churn out doesn't bear thinking about

Why should Kohli match Misbah at 40? Not that I am saying it is impossible.

Whole careers have to be compared, not the beginning or the end or the middle. Misbah did not churn out anything at 25 or 30, that is the truth, the ifs and buts don't get you any where.

 

[Punish3r]

Why should Kohli match Misbah at 40? Not that I am saying it is impossible.

Whole careers have to be compared, not the beginning or the end or the middle. Misbah did not churn out anything at 25 or 30, that is the truth, the ifs and buts don't get you any where.

misbah didn't play much international cricket at that age as you said yourself stop contradicting youself.....misbah is easily a better bat in tests than kohli._old

 

[IndianWillow]

misbah didn't play much international cricket at that age as you said yourself stop contradicting youself.....misbah is easily a better bat in tests than kohli._old

So why he didn't play? He was probably not good enough at that age and needed the experience of 33 years to clinch his place in a weaker Pakistani batting line up.

Kohli on the other hand is a young genius - he has a good record playing at the under-19 level and took that form into senior grade cricket also, and stormed into a team which had Sehwag, Dravid, Tendu, Laxman etc at the age of 22.

 

[Bilal7]

misbah didn't play much international cricket at that age as you said yourself stop contradicting youself.....misbah is easily a better bat in tests than kohli._old

Currently, Misbah is one of the best test bats around. Kohli isn't close as far as this format is concerned.

 

[Smbhayi]

misbah didn't play much international cricket at that age as you said yourself stop contradicting youself.....misbah is easily a better bat in tests than kohli._old

misbah is not good when there is MoYo, Inzi and YK there.. even he himself accept that..
I think Misbah debuted 2000-2002... why he can't keep his place...?

 

[steelo green]

misbah is not good when there is MoYo, Inzi and YK there.. even he himself accept that..
I think Misbah debuted 2000-2002... why he can't keep his place...?

Well to be fair Pakistan stuck with people like Afridi and Razzaq and a whole bunch of other talentless all-rounders. Misbah averaged in the 40s even then. Politics, fit, ect ect. Many reasons why he wasn't selected, stats wise lack of talent wasn't one.

 

[jusarrived]

Yes, Kohli is probably one of the greatest ODI chasers ever along with Inzi and Hussey from recent times.

yeah right lol

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

Currently, Misbah is one of the best test bats around. Kohli isn't close as far as this format is concerned.

Really?How much does Misbah avg in Aus and SA?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

misbah didn't play much international cricket at that age as you said yourself stop contradicting youself.....misbah is easily a better bat in tests than kohli._old

Its Misbah's fault that he was not good.enough to play at 20.Kohli is.

 

[Punish3r]

Its Misbah's fault that he was not good.enough to play at 20.Kohli is.

keep dreaming ) you and i know misbah is miles better than kohli in tests miles and miles he cant catch him...onting test cricket it what makes you a proper cricketer

 

[leatherface58]

Re: Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

) keep dreaming misbah miles better than kohli in test miles and miles he cant catch him...onting test cricket it what makes you a proper cricketer

But why are you badgering on about tests in an ODI based thread?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

keep dreaming ) you and i know misbah is miles better than kohli in tests miles and miles he cant catch him...onting test cricket it what makes you a proper cricketer

Whats Misbah s avg in Aus and SA?

 

[Punish3r]

But why are you badgering on about tests in an ODI based thread?

i said go to the misbah thread

 

[Adil_94]

Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

Currently, Misbah is one of the best test bats around. Kohli isn't close as far as this format is concerned.

Kohli will easily surpass Misbah as a Test Batsman look at what they both did in SA and AUS Kohli got centuries there Kohli is shaping up to be the greatest batsman of his generation and in ODIS there is no comparison 18 tons to 0

 

[steelo green]

Whats Misbah s avg in Aus and SA?

Sample size? What's Kohli's in the West Indies?

The fact is Misbah>Test than Kohli ATM, with Kohli most likely surpassing him in a few years. I'm a Kohli fan, but one can be objective as well.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I thought we were talking about ODI's here.

Kohli is miles ahead of Misbah in ODI's. So ahead it's not even funny.

In tests Misbah is definitely better batsmen at the moment, but give 2-3 years for Kohli to develop in tests as well.

Just like we keep churning out bowlers, India always manages to churn out generation type batsmen.

We should stick to our forte and focus on churning out another potential ATG like Asif or Amir (hopefully minus the druggie and cheat qualities), instead of trying to compare our batsmen to India's batsmen.

Otherwise, we will face the same humiliation as India does, when they compare their spinners to our fast bowling stocks.

 

[SOSami]

Funny thing is, I think most of the people arguing in this thread agree that Kohli is a world-class ODI batsman and the currently the best in the world.

The rest is just nit-picking.

 

[Monsee]

The thing is that with bevan and dhoni their role in the team is as a finisher.
but with kohli he's a no.3 bat who is not exactly supposed to finish off matches as per se,atleast not at such an alarming rate!!
The very fact that we are considering him to be equal or even better than two specialist finishers,goes to show what a great one-day batsman he is!!

I Wonder why someone who is rated better than even Kohli never got known as one of the best finishers despite playing only one position above Kohli?

Whenever we raised this question against that certain somebody, we were given the excuse that this is a blasphemy to expect him to be a finisher as well

 

[battler]

I Wonder why someone who is rated better than even Kohli never got known as one of the best finishers despite playing only one position above Kohli?

Whenever we raised this question against that certain somebody, we were given the excuse that this is a blasphemy to expect him to be a finisher as well

I don't know who u are talking about,but if it is ,then no sachin is way behind kohli when it comes to chasing odi totals.
sachin is one of the greatest odi batsmen of all time,but he wasn't really the master of chases(though he has played his part in a few famous successful chases in the past)

 

[Strike Rate]

I don't know who u are talking about,but if it is ,then no sachin is way behind kohli when it comes to chasing odi totals.
sachin is one of the greatest odi batsmen of all time,but he wasn't really the master of chases(though he has played his part in a few famous successful chases in the past)

So to be successful in odi you need to score in chases and 2nd innings? 1st innings are not important than because you are setting a total to defend? Good logic!!!

Just because Kohli 1st innings average is in 30s now we are creating another formula

 

[fatichar]

Re: Is Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

I don't know who u are talking about,but if it is ,then no sachin is way behind kohli when it comes to chasing odi totals.
sachin is one of the greatest odi batsmen of all time,but he wasn't really the master of chases(though he has played his part in a few famous successful chases in the past)

Tendu lacked the mental toughness required for chasing mountains. He was far too conscious about personal score and milestones(even if we assume that he wasn't selfish about those). I think his soberness and lack of arrogance had part to play in his mental weakness. Give him the arrogance of Kohli, and he averages 50+ in ODIs.

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[battler]

So to be successful in odi you need to score in chases and 2nd innings? 1st innings are not important than because you are setting a total to defend? Good logic!!!

Just because Kohli 1st innings average is in 30s now we are creating another formula

U should read my post properly,I never said sachin is behind kohli as an odi batsman but he is definetly behind kohli when it comes to chasing totals.
these are two different things.