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[PICTURES] Is Virat Kohli the greatest ODI run chaser in history?

I haven't seen a better chaser, if he can take India over the line in a World Cup, he will be up there with viv and sachin in Odis but even without winning a World Cup he'll still be close. Performance in World Cup knockouts will leave no doubt.
 
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Easily GOAT chaser but he better watch out. junaid khan will be at the champions trophy. ;)
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Bilal7 said:
Has he done it against Australia, England and South Africa in their home grounds? He can do a lot of things and when he does, he'll be unanimously regarded as one of the three greatest ODI batsmen ever.
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It's quite difficult to judge his current form by trying to compare/contrast it with his performance on foreign tours from 2013 (S Africa) and 2014 (England), way before he became what he is today. In Australia he has plenty of runs so not sure if there is anything left to prove. If India is to win more there, other things need to fall in place.

The OP is about greatest chaser, not ODI bat. So while yes, it probably makes sense to see Kohli do this more frequently abroad before concluding that he is the best chaser EVER; honestly, its difficult to think of any above him (maybe Bevan, not sure). And definitely no one in world cricket at the moment.
 
cricjunkie2 said:
I dont know how many here have actually seen Bevan as opposed to simply going by hearsay and debating a topic they have knowledge of.

I have followed Bevan all along. While he is no mug with the bat, i dont think he is deserving of any greatness tag, not even close. You have to bring in filters such as chaser, finisher to even get him on the list. Picture WC 2003. Shane Bond blitzed the Aussie top order & they were reduced to 5 down for nothing. Then in came Bevan who helped reconstucted the innigs & helped them get to 200. And then in came, the great Aussie bowling brigade led by McGrath and Brett Lee. They bowled the Kiwis out for less than 120 & won the game. Bevan's reputation was enhanced because of games like this, because of the type of players he had around him.

Honestly, i think of Bevan as an average talented cricketer who maximized his potential with sheer hard work, temperament and work ethic. He is not even a top 10 ODI batsman Australia has ever produced. Whereas by the time he hangs his boots, we will be able to comfortably make the case for Kohli as a top 10 ODI batsman ever.

Throughout Bevan's career, i have never seen any opponent fear Bevan or strategize their game plan around him. It was always Mark Waugh or Gilly or Hayden or Ponting or Symonds who were more feared by opponents. Bevan's limitations as a batsman are well documented, which is why he never made it to the test squad. He batted in pretty much ONE gear constantly rotating the strike and using percentage shots to maximize his time in the middle. He simply did not have the skills to lead the chase of big targets like Kohli or Dhoni does.

So to me this comparison is a joke. One is a hardworking average batsman who enhanced his reputation by virtue of being surrounded by the greatest teammates ever and the other is a potential ATG batsman who can construct the innings, rebuild the momentum or destroy attacks without looking like a hack. Chalk & Cheese!
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Agree. I started following cricket even before Bevan made debut. He was a pressure cooker player who could farm the strike with asking rate within managable proportions. Dhoni at his peak of powers could handle any asking rate. Dhoni was few notches above than Bevan at any point of their career. So it is bizarre to compare Bevan with Dhoni let alone Kohli.
 
Easily the GOAT ODI batsman let alone chaser.

You could put 450 and still think, "Yeah but they have Kohli to come". Crazy how good he is.

Passed Bevan years ago IMO.
 
This question is not up for debate. It's already been settled long ago. Kohli is GOAT one day batsman period.
 
Why are ODI performances in Australia given so much importance? Remember the WC where even UAE scored almost 300?

Fact is if you are considering performances in South Africa as some kind of validation (Where Kohli has anyway done well), then you have to remember that Kohli does not get to face his own bowling line up. I can only imagine what he would do to bowlers like Pandya.

He is already an ODI great and can become an ATG if he does well in World Cup Semis/Finals.
 
He is a monster. Nothing seems impossible when he is in there. My favourite player and the best in the world .
 
On the topic ... Kohli is absolutely crazy. Can't even call him a run-machine with all his mannerisms and emotional displays. He is just Runs personified in chases. I had pretty much given up within the first 10 overs of the Indian chase but just stayed back to watch Kohli. He has done enough to be counted an ATG in ODIs no matter what happens in the WC or CT.

Regarding Bevan, he was absolutely massive in his own way. We can never say what he would have done in 350+ chases because the game was so different in those days. It is pointless to argue who was greater or who was better unless you have been playing in the same period. I think it should just suffice to remember the "it's not done till Bevan is done" feeling from that time, just as it is with Kohli.

Considering there are 21 other players around, not to mention the impact of umpires and pitches and weather, to get such reputations is an unbelievable act of excellence.

I have said this before elsewhere ... comparisons are for lesser beings. When we talk about the greatest of all time in anything, there is no point in comparisons. Same for Dhoni as well. With nearly 300 games and in decline, it is easy to forget the impact he had in his prime. The same will eventually happen to Kohli as well. These 3 have been the ultimate finishers the game has seen and it really is pointless to compare.
 
Leaving everything aside, you definitely have to pay immense respect to Virat Kohli for his hard work. He has more drive and a better will to succeed than all the people on this forum combined, for example. I was just remembering how before 2011, no one would even give a second look to Kohli, who was expected to be a decent supporting player and nothing else. Through sheer hard work, self belief and a zeal to keep improving, he's now easily one of the best batsmen in the world.

Not only that, but he has matured as a person as well over the years and I would say that he's also quite humble. He is a role model on and off the field for any prospective cricketer. He's the type of person you want to see do well. Nasser Hussain compared him to Cristiano Ronaldo but I'd say he's more of a Messi, especially right now.

Some of his fans are awful however, and just like in Sachin's case, do more harm to his reputation than good.
 
Swaraj!! said:
Regarding Bevan, he was absolutely massive in his own way. We can never say what he would have done in 350+ chases because the game was so different in those days.
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Bevan did not play in Bradman's era. He played during the times Gilchrist, Mark Waugh, SRT, Sehwag, Lara, Gilly, Symonds, Hayden etc played ODI cricket. And pretty much all of them are better ODI batsmen than Bevan. All of them have a higher SR than Bevan, despite Bevan being a lower order player (who is generally expected to have a higher SR).

Though the norms back then were relatively modest compared to now, we've all seen explosive innings from other people in the list above. I dont recall Bevan stroking a flurry of boundaries to post a huge total nor did he do the same to bring down a big total while chasing.

So this general argument of "Oh, he would have adjusted his game to the current era..." does not work, as Bevan did not have the talent to scale.

He had a limited technique and made the most of it, that's all.
 
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For all the talk of Kohli not performing in WCs and CTs, Kohli played a very important knock in the 2011 WC Final after both SRT and Sehwag perished cheaply. Also in CT 2013 he high scored and was the only one apart from Sir (who was in godly form then) to score runs in a low scoring match.
 
Kohli is only 2nd to Viv in ODIs and will surpass him too once he performs in a WC knockout game. From the current lot, it is not even a debate. He is the best batsman in the world by a long long shot.
 
leatherface58 said:
Why are ODI performances in Australia given so much importance? Remember the WC where even UAE scored almost 300?

Fact is if you are considering performances in South Africa as some kind of validation (Where Kohli has anyway done well), then you have to remember that Kohli does not get to face his own bowling line up. I can only imagine what he would do to bowlers like Pandya.

He is already an ODI great and can become an ATG if he does well in World Cup Semis/Finals.
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Kohli averages 54 in Australia in ODIs and most Australian cricket fans comfortably rank him as an ATG in the LOI format. Only the English media uses "in these conditions" with him, Ch9 has been calling him the best bat across all formats for a long time now.

He has some great chases down under as well; only difference between yesterday and his 100 in Canberra chasing 349 was India collapsing from 277/2 in 38 overs and not.
 
Bilal7 said:
Leaving everything aside, you definitely have to pay immense respect to Virat Kohli for his hard work. He has more drive and a better will to succeed than all the people on this forum combined, for example. I was just remembering how before 2011, no one would even give a second look to Kohli, who was expected to be a decent supporting player and nothing else. Through sheer hard work, self belief and a zeal to keep improving, he's now easily one of the best batsmen in the world.

Not only that, but he has matured as a person as well over the years and I would say that he's also quite humble. He is a role model on and off the field for any prospective cricketer. He's the type of person you want to see do well. Nasser Hussain compared him to Cristiano Ronaldo but I'd say he's more of a Messi, especially right now.

Some of his fans are awful however, and just like in Sachin's case, do more harm to his reputation than good.
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The reason he was compared to Ronaldo over Messi is there in ur first para.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Kohli is only 2nd to Viv in ODIs and will surpass him too once he performs in a WC knockout game. From the current lot, it is not even a debate. He is the best batsman in the world by a long long shot.
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One WC KO? That's pretty low standards for someone you're putting second only to Viv.

How's he better than de Villiers who has already performed in WC KO matches?
 
Kohli is definitely the greatest chaser ever. However, he has a lot to prove to be compared with VIV or even AB devillers.

1)Kohli is yet to win India an ODI series through his batting performances against Australia in Australia, against South Africa in SouthAfrica and against NZ in Nz.

2) He is yet to play a clutch innings in Worldcup against worthy opponents in knockouts.

Kohli in T20s is something else, but in ODIs, he hasn't surpassed Sachin yet, who helped India to win CB series.
 
In chasing only? Kohli is the greatest ODI batsman ever (1st or 2nd innings). And I don't even think he has to play a clutch innings in a WC knockout to be considered the greatest. These are just new things that will crop up from time to time. Once he performs in a WC knockout match, the next criteria would become "He needs to win the WC for his team" and so on and so forth. Guy is class. Favorite batsman right now along with De Kock.
 
Enforcer said:
Kohli is definitely the greatest chaser ever. However, he has a lot to prove to be compared with VIV or even AB devillers.

1)Kohli is yet to win India an ODI series through his batting performances against Australia in Australia, against South Africa in SouthAfrica and against NZ in Nz.

2) He is yet to play a clutch innings in Worldcup against worthy opponents in knockouts.

Kohli in T20s is something else, but in ODIs, he hasn't surpassed Sachin yet, who helped India to win CB series.
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Weird criteria? He did his part with bat in the last series more than adequately. Sadly he didn't have Malcolm Marshall, Joel Garner to do the job :) Kohli may fail for many reasons . But pressure is definitely not one among them. One of the reason "World cup" matches are used like gold standard is because of the pressure not necessarily because of bowling standard of the opposition. It is a bonus. Not a main criteria. Remember his assault against SL at Hobart. That requires more skill, ability than 2011 world cup final. Kohli rarely buckles under pressure.
 
shariqnoor said:
In chasing only? Kohli is the greatest ODI batsman ever (1st or 2nd innings). And I don't even think he has to play a clutch innings in a WC knockout to be considered the greatest. These are just new things that will crop up from time to time. Once he performs in a WC knockout match, the next criteria would become "He needs to win the WC for his team" and so on and so forth. Guy is class. Favorite batsman right now along with De Kock.
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That's your emotions talking brother.

Kohli is an insane LOI bat. Has a greater ceiling and is on a trajectory to surpass all.

But he didn't do it yet.

Viv, Tendu and Ponting clicked in multiple WCs to be the greatest ever in ODI.

Kohli can't be greater than them if he doesn't perform in WC.

That's just the way it is.
 
Kohli can be greater than 99% of bats even if he fails in WC.

Such has been his impact in general.

But when compared to a few....to surpass them, his deeds need to be at the biggest stage.
 
Excellent chaser in great conditions for batting in this era vs weaker line ups, stats are padded a bit but he's still good
 
Bilal7 said:
One WC KO? That's pretty low standards for someone you're putting second only to Viv.

How's he better than de Villiers who has already performed in WC KO matches?
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Name one batsman in the entire history of cricket who is a top order batsman and a finisher too.

Kohli has 15 100s in successful chases, the most by any batsman and that list includes the names of Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara, etc despite playing half the number of matches.

In 60 innings, Kohli has 15 100s.
In 53 innings, Devilliers has just 5 100s.

I am a big fan of Devilliers but he has hurt his own career by not batting at one down.
 
shaz619 said:
Excellent chaser in great conditions for batting in this era vs weaker line ups, stats are padded a bit but he's still good
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So what stops other batsmen from padding up their stats .... does kohli get to bat on an adjacent pitch custom made for him ? Just look at the levels you descend to in your effort to deal with inconvenient facts.
 
If this continues, pretty sure teams would opt to bat first irrespective of the conditions to nullify the Kohli + chasing factor
 
What i want is to see Kohli chasing 280+ against south Africa in SA against Rabada and co or chasing similar score against Australia in Australia against starc and Hazlewood on pitches like Brisbane, where ball move around under lights.

The thing he is a superb player on super flat tracks, (can chase anything in those tracks) and even on sluggish and slow asian tracks, where batting is tricky. However i am yet to see him chasing a 280+ runs under the conditions i have mentioned at the beginning of my post. If he do that, i would consider him on par or even better than sachin and devillers.
 
shaz619 said:
Excellent chaser in great conditions for batting in this era vs weaker line ups, stats are padded a bit but he's still good
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Lol than why is no one else padding up there stats? Just accept we are witnessing a LO genius that will be talked about for years weather you like him or not.
 
Hasan123 said:
Lol than why is no one else padding up there stats? Just accept we are witnessing a LO genius that will be talked about for years weather you like him or not.
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I suppose there is no one else quiet like him when it comes to exploiting inferior attacks in this era in superb batting conditions I've never denied this not sure why Kohli cheerleaders get bothered so much, and yeah I have certainly accepted the low standards of fans these days.
 
shaz619 said:
I suppose there is no one else quiet like him when it comes to exploiting inferior attacks in this era in superb batting conditions I've never denied this not sure why Kohli cheerleaders get bothered so much, and yeah I have certainly accepted the low standards of fans these days.
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He would have scored runs in any era. Don't know many batsmen who would have won his team the game from being 63-4 chasing 350. Lol in any era it's nearly unheard off. He's literally carrying his batting line up and hear you are playing him down because of the quality attacks something which he can't control. It's a rather pathetic excuse IMO, it's difficult to compare players from different eras.It's not Kohlis job to produce quality bowlers and it's no fault of his that there aren't any quality bowlers.
 
Hasan123 said:
He would have scored runs in any era. Don't know many batsmen who would have won his team the game from being 63-4 chasing 350. Lol in any era it's nearly unheard off. He's literally carrying his batting line up and hear you are playing him down because of the quality attacks something which he can't control. It's a rather pathetic excuse IMO, it's difficult to compare players from different eras.It's not Kohlis job to produce quality bowlers and it's no fault of his that there aren't any quality bowlers.
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You're the type of fan who woke up yesterday, this is evident in most discussions; I don't think you study, understand or have an appreciation for history which is why you overrate modern cricketers like Kohli and this is beyond pathetic or else you'd not make misguided comments such as "unheard of in any era" which pretty much exposts your lack of knowledge on cricket. And it has been said the man is no doubt superb at scoring runs on flat pitches vs inferior attacks, he is extremely excellent in this regard
 
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shaz619 said:
You're the type of fan who woke up yesterday, this is evident in most discussions; I don't think you study, understand or have an appreciation for history which is why you overrate modern cricketers like Kohli and this is beyond pathetic or else you'd not make misguided comments such as "unheard of in any era" which pretty much exposts your lack of knowledge on cricket. And it has been said the man is no doubt superb at scoring runs on flat pitches vs inferior attacks, he is extremely excellent in this regard
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No I didn't wake up yesterday, I have been watching cricket for over 10 years there are plenty of players who I rate who didn't playin this era. There aren't many moder day crickters I ovverate LOL. Of this era I rate Kohli, Starc, De Kock, Rabada, Smith, and Hzelwood, and Ashwin really highly. Don't think that's every crickter now is it? Also since your such a historian, give me some examples/scenarios of batters doing what Kohli did.

Scored centuries vs the likes of Steyn, Morkel, Anderson, Broad, Malinga, Johnson who are some of the best bowlers during Kohlis career so far. So it's not like the bowlers in this era are anwar ali level.

It is hard to compare players of previous eras as the restrictions, pitches are different, etc are different. There are some players in previous eras who might not have done well in this era and vice versa with today's players. Saying Kohli is scoring runs on easy pitches vs inferior bowlers is just a poor excuse and just showing you won't put your ego to a side and just admit were potentially watching one of the great LO batsmen of all time.
 
Hasan123 said:
No I didn't wake up yesterday, I have been watching cricket for over 10 years there are plenty of players who I rate who didn't playin this era. There aren't many moder day crickters I ovverate LOL. Of this era I rate Kohli, Starc, De Kock, Rabada, Smith, and Hzelwood, and Ashwin really highly. Don't think that's every crickter now is it? Also since your such a historian, give me some examples/scenarios of batters doing what Kohli did.

Scored centuries vs the likes of Steyn, Morkel, Anderson, Broad, Malinga, Johnson who are some of the best bowlers during Kohlis career so far. So it's not like the bowlers in this era are anwar ali level.

It is hard to compare players of previous eras as the restrictions, pitches are different, etc are different. There are some players in previous eras who might not have done well in this era and vice versa with today's players. Saying Kohli is scoring runs on easy pitches vs inferior bowlers is just a poor excuse and just showing you won't put your ego to a side and just admit were potentially watching one of the great LO batsmen of all time.
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10 years, from around the mid 2000's that would most definitely explain your rhetoric in general which is why it is easier for you to not factor in the restrictions in the past and gulf in quality as far as the bowlers were concerned while the current lot are limited by the nature of the wicket. There's not a single knock he has played which Richards did vs Eng at Old Trafford in 84, Anwar in Chennai 97, Lara Sharjah 95. You should look beyond your fandom with a bit of objectivity because I won't go out of my way to advocate the greatness of Kohli in the current era in comparison to those before him this whole hard to compare to x,y,z is just a poor excuse to overate Virat, like I said there is no one quiet like him in batsman friendly conditions.
 
shaz619 said:
10 years, from around the mid 2000's that would most definitely explain your rhetoric in general which is why it is easier for you to not factor in the restrictions in the past and gulf in quality as far as the bowlers were concerned while the current lot are limited by the nature of the wicket. There's not a single knock he has played which Richards did vs Eng at Old Trafford in 84, Anwar in Chennai 97, Lara Sharjah 95. You should look beyond your fandom with a bit of objectivity because I won't go out of my way to advocate the greatness of Kohli in the current era in comparison to those before him this whole hard to compare to x,y,z is just a poor excuse to overate Virat, like I said there is no one quiet like him in batsman friendly conditions.
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I prefer to watch full games than judge people off highlights but what I have seen of viv I think he certainly would have succeeded in this era. But remember he didn't face a bowling attack like the one he had as his team mates, will you hold that against him? No because your ego won't allow it.

Didn't you see what he di pad vs Australia in the world t20 last year on a pitch where most wjere struggling to time the ball Virat was stroking it with ease. Another myth that he scores only on batting friendly pitches LOL.
 
Hasan123 said:
I prefer to watch full games than judge people off highlights but what I have seen of viv I think he certainly would have succeeded in this era. But remember he didn't face a bowling attack like the one he had as his team mates, will you hold that against him? No because your ego won't allow it.

Didn't you see what he di pad vs Australia in the world t20 last year on a pitch where most wjere struggling to time the ball Virat was stroking it with ease. Another myth that he scores only on batting friendly pitches LOL.
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So basically, you refuse to acknowledge the past because you didn't see those games and refuse to understand peer review; on top of that the opinions of those who have lived through the past era's mean little in addition to their appreciation for the quality of bowling and restrictions which batsman faced. Yeah we're clutching on straws when we bring in T20's, you may as well mention how he survived that spell vs Amir in the same format :yk2 I think it's your deluded fandom which is holding everything in his favour because it has already been said that he is superb in the current era but I stop right there before advocating his undisputed greatness when it's not exactly black and white, on top of that we've seen him struggle when there's a hint of lateral movement so it doesn't help his case unfortunately.
 
shaz619 said:
So basically, you refuse to acknowledge the past because you didn't see those games and refuse to understand peer review; on top of that the opinions of those who have lived through the past era's mean little in addition to their appreciation for the quality of bowling and restrictions which batsman faced. Yeah we're clutching on straws when we bring in T20's, you may as well mention how he survived that spell vs Amir in the same format :yk2 I think it's your deluded fandom which is holding everything in his favour because it has already been said that he is superb in the current era but I stop right there before advocating his undisputed greatness when it's not exactly black and white, on top of that we've seen him struggle when there's a hint of lateral movement so it doesn't help his case unfortunately.
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Lol I never said anything like that stop twisting words. I rate Lara and Sachin higher in tests than Virat. He might not get to that level in tests but in LO he almost certainly will.

It was a t20 but it wasn't an easy pitch to score on, the run rate was getting out of hand yet in a pressure game he chased it with ease it was a sign of a special player albeit the format doesn't have high significance the pressure of the game and the nature of the pitch elevate that innings as one of his best in LO.

It's your ego which is not allowing you to admit how good a player we are seeing, so he failed in 1 series doesn't mean he can't play vs lateral movement. Lol everyone knows he is going to boss England in 2018 than you will gointo hiding or come with excuses about how flat the pitches were :yk .
 
^^When some people say modern batsmen like Kholi or Smith have inflated their stats due to 'batting freindly conditions' or 'bigger bats', the same logic should apply to bowling legends like Mcgrath or Wasim who likewise 'inflated their stats' during the 'bowler freindly' era, when being compared to the likes of Steyn or Starc.
 
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^^When some people say modern batsmen like Kholi or Smith have inflated their stats due to 'batting freindly conditions' or 'bigger bats', the same logic should apply to bowling legends like Mcgrath or Wasim who likewise 'inflated their stats' during the 'bowler freindly' era, when being compared to the likes of Steyn or Starc.
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There were many quality batsman during their era though.
 
AuxiliA said:
^^When some people say modern batsmen like Kholi or Smith have inflated their stats due to 'batting freindly conditions' or 'bigger bats', the same logic should apply to bowling legends like Mcgrath or Wasim who likewise 'inflated their stats' during the 'bowler freindly' era, when being compared to the likes of Steyn or Starc.
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As far as Waseem and Waqar are concerned, they had great stats even on batting pitches.Had they not been greedy for money, they would have ended with even better stats.
 
kingusama92 said:
And rubbish tailenders. Teams bat down to #10 and sometimes #11 these days.

It's much harder to bowl in this era.
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Agree about being hard era to bowl but not for same reasons you mentioned (tailender capability etc)
Wasim, McGrath used to take top order wickets mostly not tailenders
 
kingusama92 said:
And rubbish tailenders. Teams bat down to #10 and sometimes #11 these days.

It's much harder to bowl in this era.
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Totally agree. Many ignore the fact batting became better because bowling got worse. I rarely see this many pace bowlers either in the 80s or 90s. Even India has 2 genuine quicks. Attitude, approach, strategy have all changed overall.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Name one batsman in the entire history of cricket who is a top order batsman and a finisher too.

Kohli has 15 100s in successful chases, the most by any batsman and that list includes the names of Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara, etc despite playing half the number of matches.

In 60 innings, Kohli has 15 100s.
In 53 innings, Devilliers has just 5 100s.

I am a big fan of Devilliers but he has hurt his own career by not batting at one down.
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Chasing is one aspect of the ODI game, setting up matchwinning totals is another and comes with its own challenges.

Kohli is best ODI chaser of all time but how does that make him the best ODI batsman of all time?
 
Bilal7 said:
Chasing is one aspect of the ODI game, setting up matchwinning totals is another and comes with its own challenges.

Kohli is best ODI chaser of all time but how does that make him the best ODI batsman of all time?
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Sometimes people forget the support Kohli has managed to receive on the other from the current Indian batsmen. This current target against England and Exactly the same target set by Austrlia a few years back. Sachin made 175, single handedly brought India close to win, but what happened .. COLLAPSE. Had Kedhar Jadhav not held the other end, this would have been a lost cause too.

Many of the Kohli centuries in winning cause have had another partner truely helping him, while it was Sachin who used to win single handedly.
 
Kohli's centuries in chases and support he got:

1. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/430889.html
Gambhir 150 (GAmbhir gifted his MOM to Kohli)

2.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/434263.html
SOLO

3. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/464529.html
Yuvraj, Raina held the fort

4. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/521219.html
Gambhir 84

5. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/536930.html
Rohit 90

6. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/518966.html
had support, but this was pure magic innings by Kohli

7.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/535798.html
Kohli masterclass against Pakistan.

8.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/564784.html
Kohli alone

9. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/643665.html
low scoring game, Kohli magic again

10. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/647251.html
Rohit Sharma 141, Kohli 100, Dhawan 95

11.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/647259.html
Dhawan 100

12. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/667641.html
India lost, first 100 in chase as a loss

13. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/710293.html
Rahane 73

14.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/792297.html
Kohli alone

15.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/1030223.html
Dhoni 80

16. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/1034819.html
K Jadhav 120

I seem to have missed one game, but out of the 16 I have listed (15 wins)
in 8 games atleast Kohli had awesome support at the other end or played second fiddle to the other guy!

Sachin never had this luxury:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/416240.html

oe of the greatest innings in a chase I have seen.
 
Tekcirc said:
Kohli's centuries in chases and support he got:

1. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/430889.html
Gambhir 150 (GAmbhir gifted his MOM to Kohli)

2.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/434263.html
SOLO

3. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/464529.html
Yuvraj, Raina held the fort

4. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/521219.html
Gambhir 84

5. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/536930.html
Rohit 90

6. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/518966.html
had support, but this was pure magic innings by Kohli

7.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/535798.html
Kohli masterclass against Pakistan.

8.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/564784.html
Kohli alone

9. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/643665.html
low scoring game, Kohli magic again

10. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/647251.html
Rohit Sharma 141, Kohli 100, Dhawan 95

11.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/647259.html
Dhawan 100

12. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/667641.html
India lost, first 100 in chase as a loss

13. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/710293.html
Rahane 73

14.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/792297.html
Kohli alone

15.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/1030223.html
Dhoni 80

16. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/1034819.html
K Jadhav 120

I seem to have missed one game, but out of the 16 I have listed (15 wins)
in 8 games atleast Kohli had awesome support at the other end or played second fiddle to the other guy!

Sachin never had this luxury:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/416240.html

oe of the greatest innings in a chase I have seen.
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Speaking of special knocks in chases with little support, this is another which comes to mind:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/461567.html
 
shaz619 said:
Speaking of special knocks in chases with little support, this is another which comes to mind:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/461567.html
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Its good innings, but when he came on the crease target was 163 in about 21 overs. It happens more often than not!

Comparing to 350 run almost chase single handedly is something on a different level.

The only comparable innings i remember was an World XI v/s Asia XI in 90s, Asia XI won by 1 run while Beavan scored some 180+ (a last ball 6 when 8 runs were needed). But alas it is not counted as an official match.
 
Definitely the best chaser ever in bilateral ODIs but his record while setting a target is average. Maybe he can't determine how a pitch will play out and therefore ends up playing either too aggressively or too defensively.
 
Bilal7 said:
Definitely the best chaser ever in bilateral ODIs but his record while setting a target is average. Maybe he can't determine how a pitch will play out and therefore ends up playing either too aggressively or too defensively.
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he the best chaser in india only. he is poor in sa, aus, nz, england.
apart from hobart chasing i could not recall any special innings chasing the runs.
he has no balanced record like ab.
 
sajeebmcj said:
he the best chaser in india only. he is poor in sa, aus, nz, england.
apart from hobart chasing i could not recall any special innings chasing the runs.
he has no balanced record like ab.
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Chasing 320 in 36 overs in Hobart, was what?
 
sajeebmcj said:
he the best chaser in india only. he is poor in sa, aus, nz, england.
apart from hobart chasing i could not recall any special innings chasing the runs.
he has no balanced record like ab.
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Go thru the figures before making random statements

away and chasing for Kohli
 
sajeebmcj said:
he the best chaser in india only. he is poor in sa, aus, nz, england.
apart from hobart chasing i could not recall any special innings chasing the runs.
he has no balanced record like ab.
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Is this a joke? Virat Kohli has only played poorly in England. He has good records everywhere else. Even better than Sachin. Go check his stats
 
Once again falls to a seaming delivery. He is so weak against the moving deliveries that it isn't even fun to troll his fans about it anymore.
 
[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

Wahab Riaz, Hafeez and Umar Gul in 2012 Asia Cup.
 
one series without a hundred for once and the haters are at his throat :))

the amount of jealousy and bitterness is incredible
 
Leo23 said:
one series without a hundred for once and the haters are at his throat :))

the amount of jealousy and bitterness is incredible
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no answer as expected. problem is that some people judge him to a different standard. if you compare kohli to every batsman past or present USING THE SAME METRICS,you will realize that he is lightyears ahead of everyone when it comes to chasing.
 
The GOAT when it comes to chasing, no question about it
 
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He's better than the overhyped batsman called Tendu, that's for sure.
 
Kohli is the best in high scoring matches however more matches where sub 300 was made would find out Kohli in some ways in my opinion.
 
The best chaser in the world is MS Dhoni.
 
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Chief Destroyer said:
When do India play Sri Lanka again?
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You wouldn't believe me if I said they're going to have a home series against Sri Lanka later this year.

No other batting lineup has it easier than the Indians in ODI cricket and no other spinners have it easier than Ashwin and Jadeja in tests.
 
As a Pakistani, I say Kohli is the best chaser in ODI's and anyone who disagrees is jealous or overcritical. What don't realize is that the way they criticize Kohli and they used that same criteria against all time greats like Ponting that would even make them look bad.
 
Bilal7 said:
The best chaser in the world is MS Dhoni.
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:))

you criticize kohli for not having match winning tons in aus,eng,sa etc but you don't realize that dhoni has not scored a SINGLE hundred outside asia. forget about match winning ones.
 
Leo23 said:
:))

you criticize kohli for not having match winning tons in aus,eng,sa etc but you don't realize that dhoni has not scored a SINGLE hundred outside asia. forget about match winning ones.
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Not surprising that someone who finds test matches boring comes up with a dummy's argument like this one.

Kohli bats #3, Dhoni bats #6 and they play for a very strong batting unit. It makes sense that Dhoni hasn't had enough time to get hundreds. Of course, having zero hundreds outside Asia is poor but he's a finisher, not a century making accumulator like Kohli.

Dhoni has a century in a WC final while chasing. That alone is better than anything Kohli has ever done batting second.
 
KOhli is definitely the best ever chaser in the history followed by DHoni. Overseas argument in one dayer is a rubbish argument. Pitches are flat everywhere except in few select series. At times SA pitches are flatter than subcontinent pitches. NZ pitches batting second is one of the easiest place to score runs.
 
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