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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Justice for Kamran Ghulam: Leading run scorer in Quaid e Azam trophy yet not in 17 man squad?

Amjid Javed said:
Everyone knows in entire history of Pakistani cricket that selections or non selections are made on who you know in PCB rather then merit.

If you think otherwise your being very niave to say the least
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please re read my post. I am specifically talking about the current team and whether or not they have relatives in the PCB who are influencing their selection. I agree that who you know has historically played a major role in selection, but to say that only those players who have uncles in the PCB are getting selected is a stretch to say the least.
 
offstump said:
please re read my post. I am specifically talking about the current team and whether or not they have relatives in the PCB who are influencing their selection. I agree that who you know has historically played a major role in selection, but to say that only those players who have uncles in the PCB are getting selected is a stretch to say the least.
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You think the current Pakistan test captain is there on merit and was made captain on merit? 🤔
 
Scored a brilliant century for Pakistan Shaheens against Bangladesh A in the 1st inning and built a solid 200+ stand with Huraira.

Knocking on doors of selectors and he deserves to get selected as well.
 
He is way better than the likes of Babar Azam, Abdullah Shafique, Saud Shakeel, Shan Masood, etc. in the longer format. He can bowl too, but I don't know why he is not selected in the playing XI. It's not like we are the early 2000s Australian team and he can't find his place :mv
 
Took 2 wickets today against Bangladesh A in the 1st inning of the 2nd four-day game.

What else he has to do to get picked for the upcoming tour? Scored a century earlier and now few wickets, he is more than a handy bowler and a good fielder as well.

Come on, he deserves a chance.
 
Unfortunately for him, his demeanor at the crease doesn't help his case. It's a weird thing but not only should you be able to play, you have to look the part.
 
The first step towards justice has been served

Kamran Ghulam who scored 1,025 runs in 11 first-class matches in the 2023-24 season and then scored 148 runs in three innings against Bangladesh ‘A’ in Darwin last month, including 100 not out in the first match, has now earned his call in the Pakistan squad for home test series against Bangladesh.

Good to see him back. Pakistan really needs a good solid middle-order batter and he is the perfect guy for this role. Hope he gets to play matches as well now and not just warming the bench.
 
Kamran Ghulam has been released from Pakistan's squad for the 1st test match against Bangladesh.

He will now lead Shaheens in the 2nd four-day game.

This is understandable because who would he had replace in the playing 11 in the presence of Saud, Babar, Rizwan etc.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Kamran Ghulam has been released from Pakistan's squad for the 1st test match against Bangladesh.

He will now lead Shaheens in the 2nd four-day game.

This is understandable because who would he had replace in the playing 11 in the presence of Saud, Babar, Rizwan etc.
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Why do you say presence of Babar and rizwan as if their some ATG's 🤣. King bobby has been worse then agha, Saud, Abdullah, and even shan Masood in the last 2 years.
 
Kamrans issue is the same issue that Asad shafiq had during the start of his career. He makes 40s and 50s and has trouble converting them in to big scores.

This would mean that yeh you are decent enough, but will always lose out on a spot if someone else outscores you.

Im not really a fan of Umar Amin because whenever Umar has played for Pakistan he has failed. But he got into the team due to his 177.

Kamran i think got a 100 in darwin and again compared to Umar lost the spot.

Kamran is just wasting his career if he wont go for the extra mile. Every A series he has played its the same story of doing decently well but not being the best.

If this continues, i wont be surprised if Hurraira also gets a chance over him cause Hurraira loves to play long innings
 
Bewal Express said:
Unfortunately for him, his demeanor at the crease doesn't help his case. It's a weird thing but not only should you be able to play, you have to look the part.
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He really has to work on alot of things if he is to play for Pakistan. I think in cricketing ages he is now 28 or 29.

Meanwhile Hurraira just needs one more good season where he shows again he can bat for longer innings and can get a spot over Kamran in the playing 11.
 
Amjid Javed said:
You think the current Pakistan test captain is there on merit and was made captain on merit? 🤔
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Well it was based on merit and politics.

First thing is that Shan had the captaincy of county cricket and it is very rare that a county gives captaincy to a foreign player that to from the suncontinent so that does indicate he is good.

Nepotism wasnt a factor currently because his father doesnt hold the same influence in cricket as he did few years ago, i think he has retired.

His captaincy probably came due to the establishment factor. After shaheen was posting pics of imran after 9th may, it was obvious that the captains of the team were going be someone who wouldnt try to make political posts etc. Which is why the estblishment bought babar for limited overs and shan for test. Had shan been performing in limited overs he would had gotten captaincy for that aswell..
 
mominsaigol said:
Why do you say presence of Babar and rizwan as if their some ATG's 🤣. King bobby has been worse then agha, Saud, Abdullah, and even shan Masood in the last 2 years.
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Do you think PCB will drop Babar for Kamran??? LOL. No Jokes brother.

Until one of them is injured, Kamran might not get a game.
 
Releasing Kamran Ghulam from the squad is a catastrophic blunder!

This is how we always waste careers of valuable players.
 
Major said:
Well it was based on merit and politics.

First thing is that Shan had the captaincy of county cricket and it is very rare that a county gives captaincy to a foreign player that to from the suncontinent so that does indicate he is good.

Nepotism wasnt a factor currently because his father doesnt hold the same influence in cricket as he did few years ago, i think he has retired.

His captaincy probably came due to the establishment factor. After shaheen was posting pics of imran after 9th may, it was obvious that the captains of the team were going be someone who wouldnt try to make political posts etc. Which is why the estblishment bought babar for limited overs and shan for test. Had shan been performing in limited overs he would had gotten captaincy for that aswell..
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The Shaan captaincy in YK is more to do with the Rafiq Race scandal than any great merits of Shaan. YK wanted a PK guy that hold his own and speak good English and Shaan fitted the bill
 
BouncerGuy said:
Kamran should have been playing but can we drop Saud? AGHA?? rizwan?? I guess not...PCB is not gonna do that.
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Yes you can, The opposition Is Bangladesh not Australia.

Babar and rizwan have no rhyme or reason to play such a series on a pindi road pitch other then boosting their stats.

What will likely happen is these 2 will perform and crush a medicore side, Fans as usual will go bhrangra mode just like how their advocating for Umar Amin to come back only to get a brutal reality check in an upcoming series.

In the same vein as Kohli was dropped multiple times for series against Zimbabwe their is no need to play Babar and rizwan against Bangladesh in the first place.

Bangladesh atm is the weakest test playing nation out their as they can't even defeat Afghanistan at peak pressure and Afghanistan is a team that cannot play under pressure as they bottle it. Look at how SA treated them.

Afghanistan can only switch on for certain events where they bring their A game such as fighting pakistan or Fighting Australia or a top side like Emgland in a regular group stage match.

Besides Zimbabwe their isn't a single team Bangladesh can defeat at maximum power and fully switched on, Ontop of which Pakistan is literally playing in its home den, on easy pitches. Yes the pitches are no longer curated to be roads but their still batting friendly in the long run.

This is not the Sachin era where sides use to take bikaterals seriously and Pakistan and India bikaterals were the center stage even over their tournament encounters.

In this era tours are used to prepare for the next cup, 2025 CT is around 9 months away, This tour is perfect as FC techniques carry over to Odi. But Pakistan playing full strength will achieve nothing
 
mominsaigol said:
Yes you can, The opposition Is Bangladesh not Australia.

Babar and rizwan have no rhyme or reason to play such a series on a pindi road pitch other then boosting their stats.

What will likely happen is these 2 will perform and crush a medicore side, Fans as usual will go bhrangra mode just like how their advocating for Umar Amin to come back only to get a brutal reality check in an upcoming series.

In the same vein as Kohli was dropped multiple times for series against Zimbabwe their is no need to play Babar and rizwan against Bangladesh in the first place.

Bangladesh atm is the weakest test playing nation out their as they can't even defeat Afghanistan at peak pressure and Afghanistan is a team that cannot play under pressure as they bottle it. Look at how SA treated them.

Afghanistan can only switch on for certain events where they bring their A game such as fighting pakistan or Fighting Australia or a top side like Emgland in a regular group stage match.

Besides Zimbabwe their isn't a single team Bangladesh can defeat at maximum power and fully switched on, Ontop of which Pakistan is literally playing in its home den, on easy pitches. Yes the pitches are no longer curated to be roads but their still batting friendly in the long run.

This is not the Sachin era where sides use to take bikaterals seriously and Pakistan and India bikaterals were the center stage even over their tournament encounters.

In this era tours are used to prepare for the next cup, 2025 CT is around 9 months away, This tour is perfect as FC techniques carry over to Odi. But Pakistan playing full strength will achieve nothing
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If rizwan is dropped, who will be your keeper if you play kamran in place of him because babar is not gonna get dropped and Kamran is not gonna replace him.
 
BouncerGuy said:
If rizwan is dropped, who will be your keeper if you play kamran in place of him because babar is not gonna get dropped and Kamran is not gonna replace him.
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If rizwan is dropped, who will be your keeper

Sarfraz squad mein Pani denei aya hai?
 
mominsaigol said:
If rizwan is dropped, who will be your keeper

Sarfraz squad mein Pani denei aya hai?
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Who is Sarfaraz going to replace then brother???

Understand simple math here.

you want to drop one rizwan and include 2 players instead of him???

12 players???
 
BouncerGuy said:
Who is Sarfaraz going to replace then brother???

Understand simple math here.

you want to drop one rizwan and include 2 players instead of him???

12 players???
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1) Abdullah Shafiq
2) Huraira/ Saim Ayub
3) Shan Masood
4) Kamran Ghulam
5) Saud Shakeel
6) Salman Ali Agha
7) Sarfraz Ahmed


Babar and rizwan can go play for the upcoming test series against England and Australia.

I'd rather not have to deal with Babar and rizzu performing in a halwa series, And comments telling me I was wrong about them only to be proven right vs England and Australia.

New gen needs to be cultivated. Easy series are for them, aka to gain international experience and confidence. Why are these 2 clowns shoving their way into a series their overqualified for?

And yes this includes shaheen and naseem as well, Would rather have them sit this one out.
 
mominsaigol said:
1) Abdullah Shafiq
2) Huraira/ Saim Ayub
3) Shan Masood
4) Kamran Ghulam
5) Saud Shakeel
6) Salman Ali Agha
7) Sarfraz Ahmed


Babar and rizwan can go play for the upcoming test series against England and Australia.

I'd rather not have to deal with Babar and rizzu performing in a halwa series, And comments telling me I was wrong about them only to be proven right vs England and Australia.

New gen needs to be cultivated. Easy series are for them, aka to gain international experience and confidence. Why are these 2 clowns shoving their way into a series their overqualified for?

And yes this includes shaheen and naseem as well, Would rather have them sit this one out.
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Ok so babar and rizwan. yeah.. now it looks fine.
 
Bewal Express said:
The Shaan captaincy in YK is more to do with the Rafiq Race scandal than any great merits of Shaan. YK wanted a PK guy that hold his own and speak good English and Shaan fitted the bill
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Nope.

English countys dont make someone captain like that. Your own field strategic decisions matter.

English speaking is something pakistan does. Sports clubs look at leadership skills and captaincy skillss which shan always had that people dont want to accept
 
Major said:
Nope.

English countys dont make someone captain like that. Your own field strategic decisions matter.

English speaking is something pakistan does. Sports clubs look at leadership skills and captaincy skillss which shan always had that people dont want to accept
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They did. Shaan would probably have been a good candidate for an overseas slot but he had no track record at the higher levels to get that job as captain. Remember they also appointed Ottis as coach to dampen down the criticism from MPs and the media. As soon Graves back, he started to change things, Gough was sacked and Ottis is also going
 
This thread is about Kamran Ghulam and not about Shan Masood. please do not derail it anymore.
 
My heart aches seeing Pakistan cricket in such a state. Shaan Masood's fourth consecutive loss as captain is a clear sign that something needs to change. I'm desperate to see Kamran Ghulam get a chance - his incredible form in domestic cricket over the past three seasons deserves recognition! And honestly, I'm baffled that Babar continues to be selected despite his struggles. Can't we give Kamran Ghulam a chance to bring some much-needed excitement to our middle order?
 
FearlessRoar said:
How many more performances does he need to get into the national side?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1834200285587317200
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He is proving again and again why he is the best batter in the domestic circuit, and his fitness is also at an international level

He brought up his 7th List A century against Panthers in the Champions One-Day Cup 2024

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what a commanding knock played by Kamran Ghulam tonight.. this guy deserves a call to the national team.

 
Kamran Ghulam in a post match interview said:

"You feel so good when you perform in the initial matches of the tournament. In the warm-up game I also scored a hundred now in this match I’ve scored another century so it gives u confidence and especially when your team wins it boosts your confidence even more."

"My plan was simple that first assess the conditions and once you get settled then you can play your shots. That’s exactly what I did here, after settling in I played my shots."
 
I wonder if he is one of those who just doesn't look right at the crease and his stats are dismissed because of that. I think Safaraz in Ind has the same issue and going back 2 decades, Chris Read for England had the same issue.
 
This is the guy who should be in our teams. Instead we’re just messing around with guys who are too young, too fat or specialist captains. Guys at their absolute primes should be prioritised first. That 20 year old youngster is probably not ready yet, low in experience with plenty of time to make the team. There shouldn’t be a rush to get him in he hasn’t even learnt everything from domestic.

While Kamran is arguably the best batsman in domestic right now. There’s no sense waiting around, get him in now.
 
I just hope he doesnt turn out to be another Fawad.

Alam was the rage and people used to call him the Pakistani "Shiv Chanders".

It took all of a few games for Australia to expose him as a Pakistani domestic fraud at least for List A and ODI.
 
He's piled on the runs.

Whether he's good or not, it's time to find out at the international level now.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I just hope he doesnt turn out to be another Fawad.

Alam was the rage and people used to call him the Pakistani "Shiv Chanders".

It took all of a few games for Australia to expose him as a Pakistani domestic fraud at least for List A and ODI.
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Fawad wasn't bad brother. He faced Australia when he was old and done, their was a massive massive age difference from when Fawad was supported and killing it in domestics and when he was recalled.

2014 was his prime and then he was booted again for the likes of a burnt out Younis Khan in 2015.

2022 fawad was a done case and he was 36 almost 37?

Pakistan desperately needed him from 2012 all the way till 2019 for odi and for test. He was the only game changer inn2014 asia cup. It's not hie fault that pcb mismanaged him
 
kingusama92 said:
He's piled on the runs.

Whether he's good or not, it's time to find out at the international level now.
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Although Ghulam, with his not so perfect technique , might not be a success at international level, but the way the poor guy has been piling runs year after year , has done more than enough to be given a test and international cap. And , some players do improve with new challenge of international cricket, GK might be one of those.
 
What else Kamran has to do to see his name in the playing 11??

This guy has been showing his form for years now. He gets selected for the test squad but fails to get a single game because PCB is not willing to take a risk for a better future and instead they keep on playing parchis.

Now he scored a brilliant century in the very first game. Kamran has done everything.
 
BouncerGuy said:
What else Kamran has to do to see his name in the playing 11??

This guy has been showing his form for years now. He gets selected for the test squad but fails to get a single game because PCB is not willing to take a risk for a better future and instead they keep on playing parchis.

Now he scored a brilliant century in the very first game. Kamran has done everything.
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He has to join the nexus 🫠
 
He is one of those players when you watch them you get a feel that he will get out anytime now but they always score good runs. No harm in trying him
 
Yet another good knock from this guy. So impressed with how he approached this game.
Playing on 53 atm.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
More like upgraded version of Shoaib Malik who knows how to make runs with limited ability
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Limited? He's far more free flow then 90% of pur batters in the current squad?

Imam, Rizwan, Chacha are anything but free flow
 
mominsaigol said:
Limited? He's far more free flow then 90% of pur batters in the current squad?

Imam, Rizwan, Chacha are anything but free flow
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Still he is just an upgraded version of Malik with some attacking strokes , equally bad against genuine pace and movement but can play spin well like Malik.
 
Yes he is better than Chacha and Imam and probably Rizwan as well as he knows how to construct an inning and score tons.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Still he is just an upgraded version of Malik with some attacking strokes , equally bad against genuine pace and movement but can play spin well like Malik.
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It doesn't matter. He's clearly thr best player we have atm considering how even international players are playing this tournament
 
mominsaigol said:
It doesn't matter. He's clearly thr best player we have atm considering how even international players are playing this tournament
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Yes best batter after Babar in Pak for sure but just above average batter when it comes to International level batters.
 
I can already see him hoping around and getting caught at short leg or edging it to the slips in Aus and Eng conditions because I have seen him struggle on a helpful surface against genuine pace but that was 3 years ago , hopefully he has improved now.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Yes best batter after Babar in Pak for sure but just above average batter when it comes to International level batters.
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Brother Leave Babar hype and media propaganda out of it.

Babar has been a clown since 2022 and it's almost 3 years now. He has failed consistency since then and even before 2022 he was not the best in any format.

Haris sohail and fakhar when they were in form were superior.
 
Agreed , Haris could have been a much much better player had he played more matches , clearly had the talent to succeed. The guy used to score tons on underprepared pitches of 2018-2019 where the average first inning score was around 150-180.
 
Kamran has ticked all the boxes so far. If he is not included in the squad then it will be a big injustice to this domestic cup and to Kamran as well.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Kamran has ticked all the boxes so far. If he is not included in the squad then it will be a big injustice to this domestic cup and to Kamran as well.
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His left foot is superior to Babar.

All this marketing hype for bobby being the most talented ever in pakistan. Yeah sure.

Imo the most talented batter for pakistan ever was Mohammad yousaf, but yousaf underachieved for his caliber when it came to World Cup stages.

Yousaf was easily the most orthodox batsmen with virtually zero technical weaknesses and his technique timing + backlift ability made his very technically sound.

You need heck of a lot of natural talent to be able to procure such technique, footwork and stance.

Every other batter while superior to Yousaf such as Saeed Anwar, They had flaws but they knew how to play to their strengths.

For example Fakhar when onsong plays to his legside strength while on the offside he mostly drives it and avoid lofts. Saeed Anwar was extremly wristy which made him avoid the need to play conventional against spin which was his weakness.

Babar is a technical joke, Horrible backfoot, no wrist play against spin, no lofted stroke play against most bowlers, struggles with eye hand coordination against pace.

Absolutely despicable that people think he's the greatest talent ever lol when the truth is he's basically the same as Ahmed shehzad however he atleast developed some strokeplay which is why he's a much better batter then shehzad
 
The thread is really about Kamran and we are not discussing other players' weaknesses and techniques here. Kamran deserves a chance for sure.
 
Pakistan red ball coach Jason Gillespie during commentary at Eliminator 1 match between Lions and Stallions:

“I met Kamran Ghulam with the Pakistan Shaheens in Darwin. He performed quite well there, and he’s certainly in our thinking. But we want to show faith and belief in the players we’ve got. Kamran has been communicated that he’s been spoken about, and his form has been acknowledged. There are also guys in the Test squad who have been excellent over a period, and we want to reward that and show support to the current guys in the squad.”
 
This kind of treatment of a player shall only promote disinterest among players to performing well in domestic.And it will motivate them to search for nepotism and culture of recommendations.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Pakistan red ball coach Jason Gillespie during commentary at Eliminator 1 match between Lions and Stallions:

“I met Kamran Ghulam with the Pakistan Shaheens in Darwin. He performed quite well there, and he’s certainly in our thinking. But we want to show faith and belief in the players we’ve got. Kamran has been communicated that he’s been spoken about, and his form has been acknowledged. There are also guys in the Test squad who have been excellent over a period, and we want to reward that and show support to the current guys in the squad.”
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Showing faith and belief in guys that just lost 2-0 to Bangladesh at home is quite the choice.
 
So Kamran is being kept out non injury reasons. This is so stupid. How can he not even make the squad.

I get that you have to play Masood unfortunately as captain. I kind of understand backing Abdullah given he already has 4 centuries in the format. But this obssession with trying to get Saim in the team is too much. He is getting too long a run and we’re trying to force him in when he isn’t ready. You drop either Saim or Abdullah and move Masood to open(as he has to play unfortunately), play Kamran at 3.

Usman has been the best player in domestic limited overs. And was not given the opening slot, shuffled around. When Saim got 15 chances in a row as opener despite failing.

Now the same is happening in tests. Kamran is the best batsmen in tests domestically. Broke records. Even now performing in other formats. And yet we’re still persisting with Saim over him.

Just an obsession of somehow young talent saving us, then going with your strongest players right now. It is right to back young talent, but not over your strongest performers right now in the present.

Funny thing I could see in the future, Saim is 29 at his prime, dominating domestic and ready to dominate in internationals. And not picked. Instead looked over for the next young talent who isn’t ready yet. And written off for failed performances he did 7 years ago and labelled a tried and tested failure.

I think the plan is just to simply save face in regards to Saim. They looked dumb for backing Saim so long in t20s, so now you’ve got to get something out of it in tests.

Saim will mature at some point, and this guy will be our opener for all three formats in the future IMO. He’s got the ability and talent. But we shouldn’t be keeping Kamran out right now for him.

If Masood is sacked then Kamran will hopefully come in. But he should be in the team right now.
 
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